lainchan / hum
No empathy
Batou · 2021-08-27 22:52
This will probably seem cringe, but other people just make me feel nothing.
I have seen people die in front of my own eyes, by their own hand too, I have seen people burst into tears or go into absolute mania and I felt nothing. No joy nor sadness. A bit annoyed, maybe. As a kid, I could never even make friends with other kids cause trying to socialize I would always accidentally make them cry, and I never even hurt anyone physically, I just randomly said something that I should not have.
What can I do about this? I know I am not a psychopath since I feel a lot of empathy towards animals and towards my dad specifically, but nothing else. I try to be christian but whenever I confess my sins I feel kind of fake cause I never feel guilty about any of them. I still struggle to socialize with people, cause sooner or later they always show a lot of empathy that I just cannot relate to and the friendship sours after that. Funnily enough, my only friend is a low-iq autist who also finds no guilt in beating up people, so in a bizzare way we get along. I even got myself checked for 'tism but I am clean, somehow.
I just want to get a hollow gf like gasai yuno and leave this dull society, but I have no idea how to even find such a girl.
Rant over
Meddler · 2021-08-28 04:45
>>49320
Psychopath means brain damage and not being able to control your violent impulses more so than just lack of empathy. Diminished empathy means sociopath, what you are, in accordance to modern society. The thing is that sociopaths really don't exist as not feeling for someone being a mental illness would mean that any soldier in history that felt nothing for his 'dehumanized' enemy would be a sociopath when in reality they loved plenty of people generally, just not all people. Back then animals were often not seen as so loved, the real issue lies there. People hate themselves far more than they used to and they see animals as innocent when in ancient times all the women and children were seen as innocent or there was not even such a thing as innocence to begin with to start your mind off judging things so harshly. Just don't be a murderer or a thief or rapist and then you were a stand up guy, but now we are far too complex politically for it to be that simple. It's no longer 'kill the heathen' and instead 'one half of our nation voted differently but we are not allowed to duel to the death nor have wars so *grrrrr*'.
You probably hate most people and it's no big deal as everybody hates somebody and to do that you have to feel diminished empathy towards x person or type of person. That's what sociopathy really is. Not being of this society. Ethics, law, it's all so fickle so of course random people would hate the whole thing with how overly wise some people get and when so wise and disillusioned to society you end up so negative that you either are depressed and possibly self hating or a misanthrope that feels superior, not that it is that black and white of course.
Eldon Tyrell · 2021-08-28 12:02
>>49346
I don't hate people, but they definitely annoy me, especially how they demonize any of my opinions and act like they're saints, meanwhile they'd become bigger beasts than me if soykaf were to hit the fan
Ender · 2021-08-28 19:57
Empathy has no special requirements other than immersion in the another's world. The fact you have empathy towards animals, probably just means you know more about their lives. Going online a lot, you have a different world of joys and sorrows to know. Attrition between the online and offline words seems inevitable without surrounding yourself with only people who live in both worlds.
Psychological harm takes conscious effort to fix, while we can push problems of physical harm onto our enteric nervous systems to deal with for us. Indeed not a very nice to do to the intelligent lifeform who does so much to maintain our lives. Your friend would probably just rather not need to cope with things. Not every will end up that way either male or female.
ily Lain
Bob Arctor · 2021-08-28 20:37
>>49374
Well it is different with animals, cause their feelings are obvious and absolute. A dog who hates you will always hate you and openly, a dog who loves you will always love you and will die for you too. And to be honest, when I stop and think, I can usually be really good at picking apart people emotionally, like I understand what makes them tick, but it takes conscious effort and I feel fake doing it, yknow.
Splicer · 2021-08-29 19:34
ofc you might feel fake, at least based on my personal truth.
Please forgive the poor quality of this explanation, but I think the moment words represent a person that provokes either the person's ego or the mirror of their ego in your imagination to change. Imo the act alone of a psychologist diagnosing a person, provokes someone's mind to change the person.
Bobby Newmark · 2021-08-29 21:40
>>49320
>This will probably seem cringe, but other people just make me feel nothing.
Sounds normal, I rarely feel something for people.
>What can I do about this?
Observe and learn. Get to know the basic set of things that make people sad or annoy them, then avoid.
>I know I am not a psychopath since I feel a lot of empathy towards animals and towards my dad specifically, but nothing else.
Then you're healthy, you seem to feel empathy only for those you care about, or am I wrong?
>I try to be christian but whenever I confess my sins I feel kind of fake cause I never feel guilty about any of them.
I can't help with that, for me all sins are relative and I'm not religious. Your feelings are not fake, pretending that you feel guilty is.
>I still struggle to socialize with people, cause sooner or later they always show a lot of empathy that I just cannot relate to and the friendship sours after that.
The question is whether you care about them. Friendship is about sharing things - emotions, things, information. Pretending you can relate to their feelings is nothing wrong if you care about them.
Just ask them questions: "Really?", "How do you feel about that?", etc. and answer "I know that feel, bro", "Is there anything I can do?" or tell them about your similar problem to pretend you know what they feel.
>I just want to get a hollow gf like gasai yuno and leave this dull society, but I have no idea how to even find such a girl.
No idea. By the way, what's your motivation to have a friend/gf? Do you want their empathy or their presence?
Pris · 2021-08-30 08:53
>>49320
Almost the same as me. But little bit difference.
I can't empathy my emotion with people. I don't know why they are sad, happy etc. I can't understand people cuz 'Does that situation really make them be sad or happy?'. But I know which reason make them be felt that emotions. even thought can't empathy. 'Cuz I studied myself. So for me, It's possible to make social connection between people; friends and co-workers for society at least for living common life like others. Ofc maybe you can't understand me why do I seek for normal life, but It's my decision. Thus If you want to live more normal life like others, why don't you learn yourself about people? You can build and use your own algorithm.
Elliot Alderson · 2021-08-30 09:27
>>49320
Some 20 years ago I would have told you that you are a psychopath but don't worry pal, literally everyone is like you today. And at least you don't actively hate people, and they don't make your stomach turn.
Chan Siu Ming · 2021-08-30 14:14
>>49448
I guess I could do all that, but it is my person policy to never lie, or to be fake unless it is absolutely necessary. I do not see any point in trying to fake myself into a acceptable person if I do not like him.
I just wanna find this one person with whom I truly feel a deeper and mutual understanding and just log-off from society. But I cannot find such a person if I do not engage in society, hence creating this cursed cycle.
>>49480
I do not really want a normal life, I could probably fake my way into being a normal and respectable person but I have no interest in spending my whole life fake, it is just boring.
Delilah · 2021-08-30 17:30
People make me feel really supremely twisted up inside, so i have to turn off feeling. I seriously emotionally distance. It is kinda lonely and im jaded but eh i have art.. I always feel like im about to lose my entire being to society's horseshit... Which also deeply and thoroughly confuse me. I can have a job and make income but aside from the basics im LONG gone in isolation. I do NOT understand people though i used to go to extreme extreme lengths to try. That would make me feel even more empty. One day i just realized im from a different planet and everything got better. I stopped trying to make sense of what people want i just said fuarrrk them when they need me to be anything. My family doesnt do this, unless i live with them so theyre cool now but most others do?? People do my fuarrrking head in. I can have happy simplicity though so why should i complicate it? Sometimes i used to think i was a soft to moderate psychopath but i dont know to this day. I think its just hate. I can only feel things through art. I will put a million miles of landmines between myself and others if they try to interfere with the way i want to live.
Fred Nurk · 2021-08-31 19:37
>>49516
Thou must work by the light of the moon