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I believe that because the iPad kids have been wired to seek easy dopamine hits as a product of their iPad usage, that once they become of age, they will turn to drugs to satiate their fix. I think that in the next 10 or so years, youth drug abuse will skyrocket what do you think?

They will just waste away on the internet 24/7

Playing games on pc isnt different to ipad. If this worked your generation would be in the same bin.

>Kids these days https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6795513/

>>48906 Read, understood, discarded. There are objective differences between generations born in war times, in post war periods, in times of economic decline, and in times of economic growth or peak economy. Simple matter of being shaped differently. The same reason why Nouveau rich are dumb cunts that take unnecessary risks and are generally unnecessarily disrespectful. They didn't work, they didn't bleed. Same with the current generation. I can see it myself, I'm related to someone who only watches those idiotic shows everyday, and is intellectually and physically deficient as a result.

Zoom*r here, I think that depends on intelligence and willpower. Clever parents limit the time their children spend in front of [a device]. Clever children will realize [a device] isn't good for them just like I realized computers and the internet harm people more than they help them. I had enough willpower to quit visiting certain places and now I'm healthier. On the other hand people of weak willpower fall into addictions like drugs or internet/smartphone/whatever addiction. Also >muh generation Aren't millennials the most drug-addicted generation so far? Computer addiction is not much different. Your generation is creating the rotten world Alpha will live in, millennials let their children use smartphones and tablets more than they should.

The same has been said about newspapers

>>48913 And writing and printing and TV.

op here, the point was that if a Childs brain is developed through an iPad, an inherently incredibly addictive device. they will substitute the addiction for substance once older I believe that iPads are far more damaging compared to tv or even the newspaper. I had all of those at my fingertips as a kid but still engaged more with my surrounds than my nephew. I don't believe my circumstance is a unique one either.

>>48912 Actually accurate. I observed people talk over chat instead of talking directly working in a office room next to each other.

>>48895 Yes. Hypercommunication and information technology were always a boobytrap for mankind. A pitfall. The utopians of the 60s and onward who envisioned it as the ultimate freedom of the mind were wrong. The mind is defined by its limitations and how it deals with them, not its excess or infinitude. The latter destroys the mind. We won't be human much longer. And we won't be the federation, either. We will be the borg, except far less competent and far far far more boring.

>>48906 >muh government studies Yeah there's absolutely no reason that the NIH would have an ulterior motive to deny the degradation of the society that it (and other agencies) have stewardship over. You need to be way less naive going forward, there's too fuarrrking much of this going around and it's strangling us all

>>48922 That's because loudass coworkers distracting everyone else is rude and annoying. Of course that's more a symptom of open workspaces being a stupid office design.

>>48925 If you don't see that this is a modern phenomenon created by technology then I don't know why you haven't been paying attention. A workspace being filled with noise and conversation used to be commonplace, acceptable, and people were able to cope with it instead of having anxieties and misophonias. Look at photos of offices from the mid-twentieth century. Other workplaces. Factories. Schools. You might think it's a good thing that this happened because you happen to like it, but another way of looking at it: these developments have robbed you of your ability to tolerate normal social conditions.

>>48931 >A workspace being filled with noise and conversation used to be commonplace, acceptable, and people were able to cope with it instead of having anxieties and misophonias. Not the poster you're replying to but that's dumb. Maybe extroverts don't have a problem with noise but I think that quiet working conditions improve effectiveness. Also weren't the times back then less stressful and the pays higher?

>>48932 Do you think that the skyrocketing instances of autism, introversion, anxiety disorders, and sensory disorders is just a coincidence? Or does it have environmental factors? And yes the times were less stressful. Especially because we had normal levels of socialization. Pay and material factors of course were a factor, but I doubt that materialism explains all of it.

>>48931 And yet the notion of going back to your office (with a closed door and walls, yes) to focus on writing a paper or whatever existed. > Schools. The notion of university study halls and libraries as places you keep noise down is centuries old. Some moronic startup at one point decided to cut costs on individual offices and others followed suit. The notion of working in a public space, especially in a collaborative manner, definitely differs from work in which individual effort and focus is required. You'll notice a lot of those old pictures related to newspaper editing rooms and various collaborative work.

>>48934 >Do you think that the skyrocketing instances of autism, introversion, anxiety disorders, and sensory disorders is just a coincidence? Are you sure it's not just better diagnosis? Of course overpopulation helps with that but I doubt people really like noisy working conditions. Of course autism and introversion become visible more often if you force people to socialize beyond healthy limits. Everything is noisy these days, especially in the city. People need a balanced portion of silence and noise. Libraries were a thing before computerization because focused work requires silence. Technology is one thing but I think overcrowded cities play the main role here.

>>48948 I live in a really loud apartment and I definitely can't focus for soykaf here.

>>48946 >moronic startup at one point decided to cut costs Agree with you there >>48948 Oh there have been statistical analyses on that. It goes far beyond better diagnosis. That was the scapegoat for a long time, but it's no longer deniable.

>>48955 >Oh there have been statistical analyses on that. It goes far beyond better diagnosis. That was the scapegoat for a long time, but it's no longer deniable. I'm not going to go into full details but dumb psychiatrists invented the term "autism" as a form of oppression to dehumanize people not conforming to social norms of neurotypical NPCs. Before psychiatry, there were "weirdos" and "eccentrics", but modern psychiatry invented a term to describe the language and behavior of autistic people as something bad rather than just different. Blaming everything on technology sounds like a convenient excuse.

>>48959 That certainly is true, I have no love for psychology. But it doesn't change things. These disorders are increasing because of environmental factors. We adapt to our environs, it's not controversial. But whether we think it's a good or a bad change, we should face the fact that we are changing ourselves and sacrificing what we used to be. I think it would be wise for us to make sure we don't twist ourselves into forms far worse than what we had before. If we plunge into it blindly, that is almost surely going to be the result. Technology did do this. What else did it? Why did this happen now? Once again, we are animals which adapt to our environment, regardless of what kind of environment it is. What is your environment today? What kind of surroundings did you spend this day amongst?

>>48963 >Technology did do this. What else did it? Why did this happen now? Depends on what do you mean by technology. The thread is about iPad kids. Are overcrowded cities and noisy machines technology? If so I can agree but the change isn't caused by computers alone. As for autism diagnosis, people imagine autists as noisy children who barely talk, move, understand nothing and soykaf their pants. Currently we know that autism can be mild and that autists can be highly-functioning members of the society who only appear "weird" in certain situations. If diagnosis was focused on the first type of autists, then of course there were little, but if you suddenly include highly-functioning autists like some scientists for example, then you suddenly discover autism is more common. Isn't that the case? I'm just not sure autism is a good indicator of the effects of technology, I would rather take a look at hikikomoris, anxiety, stress and suicide rates.

It's not technology, it's most likely not even pollution, it's obesity. You're gorging yourselves to death and turning your children into empathy-deficient ghouls that will only get fatter, thus accelerating the cycle. It's like a real-life slow motion zombie apocalypse.

>>49008 Hmmmm why are people getting so fat

>>48895 Perhaps weed is being legalized for a reason?

>>48895 yeah, probably, along with every other problem you could have today. addiction to devices, isolation, other weird soykaf. But honestly tiktok gives me hope. It's like the greatest information sharing platform of all time. Are kids depressed? What's bothering them? The fact that they'll never own property, or the fact they're probably owned property by now?

>>48918 its no more addictive then a PC. asamof, those kids will naturally take to any interface, as they'll want to interact with all of them, and develop the same tendencies you have. Whatever they maybe. Chatrooms? Gaming? Coding? Don't forget, ipads aren't more info or access than PCs. They're just another interface. in many ways, they're limited compared to PCs. But if they're like you or me, they'll realise and find something more powerful.

>>48931 Being able to make life more private may be an ideal way of living for some people. Some people are shy, isolated or introverted. But even then, the siphoning of so much of your attention, energy and emotions into a little glass rectangle that can run out of batteries and is connected to the world must leave an impression. It's what I fear for myself.

>>48905 >>48906 Gen y did not grow up with Internet access starting so young. They do not know boredom.

>>48906 Sending my reply as txt because I get the message it's low quality

>>49008 Funnily enough obesity is also responsible for fertility problems (fat produces hormones). No conspiracies needed, Americans are depopulating themselves voluntarily. Correlation is not causation though. It seems possible but research is needed.

>>49018 It's the generation name starting with b.

>>49019 dont know what it does to men but its confirmed for women. Landwhales get a passive pill effect from their blubber releasing estrogen and can skip periods if fat enough.

im not sure why your specifying ipad or reducing a generation to ipad kids. But you arent wrong on premise its just more than likely its more subtle. Some toddlers lets say will react stronger to having ipad or etc. taken away, leading parent to give it to them more often or be more wary of cutting their time short. Of all their own fault, but a fault almost anyone could make in a moment of "I really just dont want to deal with a tantrum right now.". The Ipad is actually a symptom not the cause, and the assumption they will move to harder drugs isnt true but its not unfounded. The reason people move to harder drugs is because the things they are already doing lead to connections with people who have access to harder drugs, or the things they currently do they realize arent as bad as they thought, so they try out something else their usual dealer for say weed has in stock, and then its either a fit or not a fit for their specific pleasure seeking brain. However if I was a heroin addict in isolation, like I just have heroin magically, im not gonna start looking for meth and seeking out other soykaf. My brains wired to know the activity of shooting heroin will make me feel okay again, its not like every kind of pleasure seeking activity magically becomes the next step because i did one. My point is raised on ipad babies will very rarely have any reason or opening to try hard drugs, their brain only knows ipad device in this case is fun and brings them pleasure. That doesnt translate to drugs magically just because its an addiction also. Factor in what I said earlier too, not every child will have the predisposition to say cry extra loud when their fun or what they were engaged with is removed. So its a fraction of a fraction that will end up even coming close to what you do, and I dont think its any different than how its always been. The stimulus is more intense than say a tv show but our brains adjust to things like that. Normally thats bad, say adjusting to the stimulus of being in a war torn country and then having to live during peace time. But tech, internet, ipads, etc. are very much almost permanent affixtures to the environment. Our brains, young and old, are currently adjusting to this every day.So the iPad in the grand scheme of things, and these scenarios im laying out, are no different than they have ever been in history. The kid who seems to be especially fond of sweets and whos parents inevitably give in isnt much different from the kid with the ipad. And itl likely be the same amount of addicts in this generation as there ever have been, but the most popular drug of choice could be changed by all these factors. For example with the internet and online activity and interaction being such a ubiquitous pazt time maybe amphetamines will see a return over opiates as they lend better to enhance that experience of ranting on twitter and consuming 50 different internet articles. But I dont think this coming generation is at any greater risk of addiction, if anything they will have to learn to deal with it on a micro scale much sooner than any of us ever did and thus later in life be more equipped to have balanced relationships with substances.

>>49019 >No conspiracies needed, Americans are depopulating themselves voluntarily. American culture is a death cult. Horribly unhealthy diets that lead to reduced lifespan and reduced fertility. Mass entertainment that glorifies guns (death-bringing) and vilifies sex (life-creation). Self-destructive work habits. A suspicion of science-backed solutions and an eagerness to embrace quackery. And a national obsession with bringing all these traits to the entire world. At this point I'm low-key rooting for covid, drought, and wildfires to cripple their insane deathcult empire so that their culture stops fuarrrking up mine. Let my people fuarrrk up our own culture in our own way without outside interference, jammit.

>>49141 >Mass entertainment that vilifies sex que?

>>49258 Not that lainon, but consider how ratings jump up several brackets the moment you have anything even slightly salacious on screen. Now consider how the ratings often don't even move if you have someone get shot in the face, unless you go past a certain level of gore.

>>49259 Dude, current USA rating system for movies is degenerate promotion of promiscuity in comparison to what was considered obscene few decades ago - where 1st suggestion of existence of sex in a marriage was 1960 TV adaptation of the Addams Family. So I have no clue WTF is that lainon smoking.

>>48895 kids today are different due to being c|amped, vaccinated, circumcised, halogenated, irradiated, drugged, and all manner. Look at them. Scrawny, pale, sickly, dumb. You're not looking at small differences due to media brainwashing, you're looking at a gimped and raped creature. This is all criminal. They have raped these kids 10 fold how they raped us, which was pretty bad to begin with. I can pretty well tell that I got c|amped and vaxxed, and microwave irrdiated.

>>49263 You forget corn sirup in food and fluoride in water. And subliminal messages of Walt Disney movies. I wonder why all these conspiracy theoreticians barely consider the subject of hyperinflation of FIAT currencies. It's like they are too busy digesting disinformational garbage to think deeper about real problems.

>>49264 Fluoride in the water falls under halogenation. Corn syrup is related with glyphosate, atrazine, metals, metabolic syndrome. The poisoning of the food supply is too broad. Economic manipulation to stomp out people like an algae bloom, or strangle them, is well covered. You just don't know because you have limited involvement in the conspiracy spheres.

>>49267 >Economic manipulation to stomp out people like an algae bloom, or strangle them, is well covered. Bullshit. It's presented to you on a silver plate. You just need to understand very basic economics of consequences of inflation of quantity of currency and how it ended every time in history beginning from ancient times. Prospect on that would be literally few pages long. Unless you are some intellectual amoeba who believes in bullshit like "Modern Monetary Theory" or sniff glue often enough to think Keynesianism is great economic policy you understand that "a lot of debt == bad" and "more debt than you actually have ability to pay == beeing in a deep fuarrrking soykaf". Even my born in communism parents that are far from economics sciences understand that very basic facts about current world wide financial system.

>>49273 I don't really know what you're trying to say. Central banks, debt peonage, repeated inflation and crash cycles, none of this is news to anyone. Weimar Germany, not news. Holodomor, crumbling of the USSR, taking control of all the real estate, and so on. Again, the fact that you dismissed everything I listed as "disinformation" shows you're a moron on its own, but what's worse is you have no idea what you're talking about yet want to just talk soykaf against some bizzaro caricature someone gave you of the "conspiracy theorist". The cardinal sin of the moron however is his tendency to proclaim "why all of those things aren't problems it's ACTUALLY JUST [idiot's singular preferred issue] and you're all just dumb and don't see the REAL truth! Meanwhile you're like "well I'm going to blanket reject you and just demand youb submit to me and my fixations!" Yeah, fuarrrk off. Just very stupid behavior all around and I won't entertain your lazy soykafheaded narcissism. You probably won't even learn from this. Get fuarrrked, in a bad way.

>>49279 Oh, name calling equals exposing your insecurities and uncertainties. I'm not lazy. I examined most of these theories and they are backed by as many actual facts as US Dollar is backed by grams of gold. Not to mention inconsistencies in them. The only major actually backed by facts real world problem is fiat currency crisis and related to it gap between poor and rich and erosion of middle class. Derivative of that problem are also many environmental problems and problems within scientific community that wastes resources for producing almost nothing of real value and few military escapades here and there by different countries. Too many zombies eating too many real asset resources kept undead artificially by money printing.

>>49280 >Oh, name calling equals exposing your insecurities and uncertainties. Posturing, posing for the audience, attempt to manufacture artificial leverage via the metaconversation rather than actual substance. Yawn. >I examined most of these theories You did no such thing. Otherwise whatever you call examination is anything but. Probably spent an afternoon looking up "official sources", called it research. Many such cases. >Not to mention inconsistencies in them Superficial inconsistency does not real contradiction make, nor does inconsistency break a case completely. More laziness, throw out the baby with the bathwater, and so on. >The only major actually backed by facts real world problem is fiat currency crisis False. Simple as. >Too many zombies eating too many real asset resources kept undead artificially by money printing. Nice, guess that means everything else is fine. And let me guess, we just have to get rid of [whatever] to solve everything then we'll be living in a utopia. Good to know, great, good luck. Glad to have met the Messiah. Thank you for enlightening me.

>>49281 >You did no such thing. Otherwise whatever you call examination is anything but. Probably spent an afternoon looking up "official sources", called it research. Many such cases. Congratulations, you just proved beyond doubt that you are self delusional self fueling egocentric that bases your way of thinking mostly on own imagination. Many such cases. Yo didn't surprise me at all. Nope dude, I spent much more time. Much more than most of these theories were worth wasting time on. The level of aggression you present as reaction to what I write only proves that you depend more on repeating them as mantras than actually analyzing them yet some rational parts of your brain see evident holes in them but get silenced by more primordial irrational parts. But the fact you still have these parts of brain working means there is hope for you.

>>49282 It's actually the inverse, I don't have a functioning and fully formed ego or sense of self. I think this is part of why I can see and accept reality, and others cannot. They are of the world, and I am not.

>>49283 Your words state otherwise.

>>49273 >Unless you are some intellectual amoeba who believes in bullshit like "Modern Monetary Theory" or sniff glue often enough to think Keynesianism is great economic policy you understand that "a lot of debt == bad" and "more debt than you actually have ability to pay == beeing in a deep fuarrrking soykaf". The funny thing is that both of these ideas gained prominence because of how they helped mitigate economic turmoil. Not cause it. You have to stop thinking national debt is like personal debt, because outside of it having the same world, it more or less works differently.

>>49284 Nope. More egoist arrogance from you, btw ; ^ ).

>>49285 >The funny thing is that both of these ideas gained prominence because of how they helped mitigate economic turmoil. Not cause it. It didn't help anything. It's just kicking a can down the road. It's the worst solution possible as it only pumps bubbles to even more enormous levels and accumulates are pathological behaviors of investors and companies. When this bubble bursts it would be a burst of thermonuclear proportions. >You have to stop thinking national debt is like personal debt, because outside of it having the same world, it more or less works differently. It does not. Literally whole economic history proves it works on the same principles.

>>49291 Quiet contrary.

>>49299 You must unclamp.

>>49285 Personal debt is good too though. If you don't exercise your credit you are wasteful.

>>49298 >It didn't help anything. It's just kicking a can down the road. So you are saying that pretty much all of the western world, who actually followed Keynesian like policies from the great depression to roughly the 80s, and what most people consider the recent golden age, was bad? Even recently with the Asian economies like South Korea, Singapore or China, what they have done to get where they are today can be described as Keynesian. >When this bubble bursts it would be a burst of thermonuclear proportions. If you hate bubbles so much stop believing in market economies since they will always bust or have crisis. It's naturally follows from their structure that it will happen. >It does not. Literally whole economic history proves it works on the same principles. The common wisdom that someone should stop spending if he's in trouble works for people, but if you try that with economy you will just worsen the situation since less will be spend, more people will be out of job, which leads to people spending less and so forth. And no, the economy today is very different than the economy a century ago where money was based on gold. And that's just a one part of what has changed.

>>49305 >So you are saying that pretty much all of the western world, who actually followed Keynesian like policies from the great depression to roughly the 80s, and what most people consider the recent golden age, was bad? Even recently with the Asian economies like South Korea, Singapore or China, what they have done to get where they are today can be described as Keynesian. Sure. It slowed down technological growth creating stagnation - see Japan. Created evergrowing gap between rich and poor, highly eroded middle class. Made savings lose it's value on tremendous speed and made housing less and less affordable for every new generation. It's unsustainable road to failure and tensions in society last seen near communist revolution. >If you hate bubbles so much stop believing in market economies since they will always bust or have crisis. It's naturally follows from their structure that it will happen. Bubbles are not a matter of religious belief. Artificial pumping of bubbles by low interest rates and intentional destruction of value of currency known as quantitative easing is literal crime against humanity. >>49305 >The common wisdom that someone should stop spending if he's in trouble works for people, but if you try that with economy you will just worsen the situation since less will be spend, more people will be out of job, which leads to people spending less and so forth. And no, the economy today is very different than the economy a century ago where money was based on gold. And that's just a one part of what has changed. >The common wisdom that someone should stop spending if he's in trouble works for people, but if you try that with economy you will just worsen the situation since less will be spend, more people will be out of job, which leads to people spending less and so forth. And it will clean economy of accumulated zombie companies that bankrupted years if not decades ago but are kept alive artificially by destruction of purchasing power of currency. The longer this continues the more such companies get accumulated in economy. Leading to even more severe consequences when bubble bursts. >And no, the economy today is very different than the economy a century ago where money was based on gold. And that's just a one part of what has changed. It's not different. It's the same and we are very close to the end of that system. We are already at zero interest rates with zero possibility of rising interest rates without popping the bubble. The next step is negative interest rates. This is going to pump housing prices even higher making them even less affordable and widen gap between poor and the rich even further. It's horror fueled nightmare.

>>49305 Current economy is like heroin addict - if addict stops taking heroin he suffers. If he injects - he does not suffer. The longer he injects every time he suffers the more suffering it brings with every period when he has no heroin. One day the amount of heroin such addict is required to take to not suffer is going to be so huge it will end addict's life.

>>49306 >Sure. It slowed down technological growth creating stagnation - see Japan. Are you implying Japan before WW2 was some technological marvel? Majority of the growth you saw was after WW2, so much so that US was worried that Japan will somehow overtake it, which is the reason cyberpunk has neon Japanese signs everywhere. Even all the famous Japanese companies from Japan came from that time like Sony or Honda. >Created evergrowing gap between rich and poor That started happening in the 80s, which had nothing to do with Keynesian policies. Unless you want to say Alan Greenspan, a close friend of Ayn Rand, and who during his youth went into a unusual political direction for that time, was Keynesian. >Made savings lose it's value on tremendous speed and made housing less and less affordable for every new generation pretty much what I said before. For that you can blame the loosening of restrictions on what could be traded, which led to people trying to exploit the system by focusing on finance instead of real production. I don't think anyone is happy for that, but you are pointing fingers at completely wrong people. >And it will clean economy of accumulated zombie companies that bankrupted years if not decades ago but are kept alive artificially by destruction of purchasing power of currency. This giant crisis that is supposedly looming on us because of fiat currency was meant to happen for decades now too, and there were crises but then again if you look at history there always were crises in market economies. Literally for centuries by now. It's just how it works. If you see inflation happening right now, what is more rational to think. It's caused by money supply being expanded, which happened for decades now, or is it the fact that the whole economy is standing still for previous year or two? >It's not different. It's the same and we are very close to the end of that system. If it was the same we couldn't be near it's end because it couldn't transform to anything different. It kinda reminds me of how Marxists always say that this will end here, for the 5442 time just this year. And it might end, it might not, no one knows it. But the thing is what it will most likely turn to is an oligarchy of the bankers and shareholders, so I don't think it's what you want. >>49307 It's true, but in the same way if you take heroin away from an addict you will do more harm than good, the same applies here. And that isn't against what I said.

>>49308 >For that you can blame the loosening of restrictions on what could be traded, which led to people trying to exploit the system by focusing on finance instead of real production. This is all beginning to sound very Jewish.

>>49310 It's not Jewish, schizo. It's just natural in the market economy. And by that I don't mean an economy that just has markets, because these always existed, but a market centered one like today that's also profit oriented. Because under such scenario people will begin to act in hopes of profiting, and that means by definition to earn more some will "rig the game" because speculating is profitable, commercial banks are profitable, exploiting the environment is profitable, etc. They are pushed into doing it the same way a rain droplet is pushed to the ground by gravity. You could replace the people who do this with computers, angels or whatever you want because the way things are structured they are forced to act certain ways. Also man, seriously, and I know how annoying this is to hear because I hate people who talk like I do now too, but my god. Try getting your info from an other place than /po1/ memes. You are what you eat also applies to information, I can tell you that.

>>49311 No, your understanding of natural laws and the natural order is flawed. All of what you just stated are details. At its core the logic is very simple, logic is the same at all levels of organization and each level will therefore behave like an organism. Basically, as above, so below (and the inverse). To have an ecology organize and develop in the way you're describing requires active forces which seek to tap and redirect existing forces in accordance with their nature, and the thing which has a nature that is uniquely prone to mindless and unnatural overstimulation of systems, is the Jewish mind. And the organizational structure and design of Judaism facilitates this as well. Intragroup loyalty and stability is extremely high, and when you build something which is at its core against nature (you're trying to rework the ecology to make the unnatural natural), you need a strong backbone to hang it on. This is the Jews. The other races are not really capable of it, in a creative sense. You don't know what you're talking about and have probably never studied Jewish law, Jewish history, Jewish Religion, or the Jewish mind. You are talking out of your ass because you want to believe things are more mutual and organic than they really are. You are the same kind of fool who calls biological systems a "chemical soup".

>>49306 >It slowed down technological growth creating stagnation - see Japan The American president did that. We fuarrrked over Japan and, because of this, made China and South Korea more capable of making insane amounts of money.

>>49310 lolz, read Milton Friedman. He is Jewish and he destroys Keynesians like >>49308 Or if you prefer living Jews - Peter Schiff.

>>49308 >That started happening in the 80s, In the 1970's during stagflation. That's why females were forced to enter working force. Rapid inflation caused by closing gold window caused value of US Dollar to start evaporating. Before 1970s only one of parents earning money was able to support family of two parents and several children. Working as a carpenter. Feat impossible decade later. > which had nothing to do with Keynesian policies. Unless you want to say Alan Greenspan, a close friend of Ayn Rand, and who during his youth went into a unusual political direction for that time, was Keynesian. Alan Greenspan changed drastically after he get involved in FED. After FED he has nothing to do with austrian school of economics.

>>49317 If I would have to point the event that highlights the fall of greenspan it would be his reaction to the 1987 crash. We are still suffering consequences of his actions. Artificial liquidity introduced back then started over 3 decades of artificial pumping of every stock market bubble. The snowball effects that would released the moment FED runs out of means of pumping it further may be the most catastrophic event in the economic history of the United States.

>>49316 I prefer it to not be Jewish.

>>49316 When I hear word such as "destroyed" I know I'm dealing with Ben Shapiro fan level of people. And I don't think he destroyed anything, because I can tell you why he is even known today, like all economist are known in certain time period. It's to justify politics. And in times where he was getting his 5 minutes of fame were exactly the times where all of those thing you can hear complains about about like the rise of house prices, rise of financial markets, shutting down of local jobs, etc started growing. Because his job was to tell a tale that justified those things which caused them by giving it this (not) liberal spin to it. Which in the eroded stability both in the west, stalled the growth of nations in Latin America, Africa and Eastern Europe. Surprisingly, none of the developed nations developed under these pseudo liberal policies. All of them were strongly against competition and for protectionism, with strong regulation. >>49317 >In the 1970's during stagflation. The stagflation in my view wasn't entirely the reason for these changes, it was seen as a way to alter the status quo because it was a big event. The other reason was that the profit rate was declining at the time, but it will always decline till it hits zero some day and you will always have economic turmoil from time to time because of that. >Alan Greenspan changed drastically after he get involved in FED. After FED he has nothing to do with austrian school of economics. >not real 'x' You can do better than that.

>>49324 They are using naked economic facts based on principles and observations developed by Austria Hungary economist Carl Menger (no Jewish ancestry known to him or his family). If you for some reason don't like Jews who follow science in a proper way without attaching any ideology to it other than pure factual and historic evidence then IMHO you have a serious problem. >>49327 Even if one would add so called "women liberation" as important factor - it still does not erase the fact that US Dollar's value tanked back then. >You can do better than that. There is no need to do that as what he did is literally 180 degree opposite to what Austrian School teaches as a proper solution to the problem. That solution is "they fuarrrked up, so let these fuarrrkers all go bankrupt". Which part of what Greenspan did is Austrian School according to you? Literally none.

>>49328 >it still does not erase the fact that US Dollar's value tanked back then. The thing is the economy is always ever changing and you had crisis after crisis for centuries at least now. Before any big banks existed or any big means of manipulating money did. Medieval economies didn't have these issues since they were local, and not run for profit. Planned economies didn't have these issues because they were planned and not run of profit, but complaining about economic instability in a for profit market economy is just bizzare. It's like being surprised that if you put wings on a object and move it at high speed it will levitate. >That solution is "they fuarrrked up, so let these fuarrrkers all go bankrupt" Yeah, because we live in the real world where our decisions are weighted by thousands of other people at least. If you let massive bankruptcy to happen you more or less can expect your head to be cut off in following months if things get bad enough. Do you want inflation that might be regulated, or do you want great depression v2.0?

>>49329 >Yeah, because we live in the real world where our decisions are weighted by thousands of other people at least. If you let massive bankruptcy to happen you more or less can expect your head to be cut off in following months if things get bad enough. Not allowing banks to go bankrupt and pumping them with currency is an economical suicide of the nations. >Do you want inflation that might be regulated, or do you want great depression v2.0? Nope I do not want Great Depression 2.0. That's why FED should be abolished. It was the FED that caused Great Depression. Before FED's mangling with economics recessions were very short lived events. After FED - we have at this point decades long madness of debt spiral and imposibility to have savings which makes us poor unless we know how to invest. 90 percent of society has no idea how to invest. That's why 90 percent of society is going to be wiped out of of their money that would be transfered to 1 percent of the rich. fuarrrk the FED.

>>49330 also wtf do you mean by "inflation that might be regulated"? FED has no desire to regulate inflation. It's the inflation that keeps bubble from popping so far. But FED is running out of tools to keep it pumping. Every time they pump they are increasing the govt debt. It's unsustainable. They can't increase debt infinitely. That's the part you do not understand. Even if they enter the policy of negative nominal rates they can only go as far as 100 percent. They are probably going to be hanged on a nearest street lamp once they hit -10 percent of real interest rates.

>>49331 Again, neither of you are taking globalism into account. You're also, compeltely without basis, presupposing that the FED and other central banks, care about long term sustainability or prosperity of the nations they print money for. that's not the primary organizing principle nor the goal, global dominance and extermination is the goal. So you'll build up some of them, and tear down others, as needed. They're international, they're not Americans, they don't care about you, and if your use is at an end on the global stage, they'll trash the place and dump you like a worn out old car. "Never assume malice where it can be adequately explained by incompetence" is yet another lie and series of head pats they fed you to make you feel smart.

>>49333 >that's not the primary organizing principle nor the goal, global dominance and extermination is the goal. If they were smart, then global dominance would require long-term sustainability and prosperity. unfortunately, the people in charge are not smart. >"Never assume malice where it can be adequately explained by incompetence" is yet another lie and series of head pats they fed you to make you feel smart. Wait a minute... aren't you feeding me a lie and a series of head pats to make me feel smart?

>>49336 >If they were smart, then global dominance would require long-term sustainability and prosperity. Propserity leads to a lack of long term sustainability and is an obstacle to their ultiamte goal. All they actually want is total control and a planet all to themselves. The reason they allowed and facilitated all of this existing, and getting so built up, was because there were too many people and overt and direct extermination was not possible. So they helped them, guided them to want to build and maintain their own prison and gallows. They gave us enough rope to hang ourselves and the motivation to do it. That's what this place is all about.

>>49337 >Propserity leads to a lack of long term sustainability Maybe you and I have a different meaning of 'prosperity', I think get-rich-quick schemes don't count as real prosperity. >All they actually want is total control and a planet all to themselves. and the dumb soykafs think they'll actually get it too, lol

I am one of those "Ipad kids" since I have had an smartphone since I was seven years old and unsupervised computer since ten. I have never done any illegal substances and I don't feel like I have a need to do so, so your theory isn't very good. I also know others who have been like this and most of them seem completely normal to me. These days I use an dumbphone w/GNU/Linux computer if anyone cares. >inb4 you have to be over 18 to post I'm already over 18

>>49333 >You're also, compeltely without basis, presupposing that the FED and other central banks, care about long term sustainability or prosperity of the nations they print money for. Very strange sentence considering I just elaborated in quiet few posts explaining how FED and Co are doing exactly the opposite in terms of interest of nations. You seems to not understand that basic fact.

>>49339 Your definition of prosperity is not their idea of their own propserity. Your prosperity does not lead to theirs, the two are not connected, they are not one of you. Prosperity leads to a loss of control, you want to keep people crushed, distracted, and overworked so they cannot dream. Anything else compromises the long term sustability of their system which facilitates their plan. >and the dumb soykafs think they'll actually get it too, lol They probably will at this point.

>>49311 The system was designed like this by its architects. Only central banks and their owners benefit from this. All the rest of the people are becoming more enslaved which each passing moment this system lasts.

>>49356 Isn't it obvious by now that he's a wage slave?

>>49488 I'm not. I see everyone else as another species and while I will not exploit them, I also will not put myself in a position where I'm enslaved and exploited by them. The idea of wage slaving is alien to me. I also will never go into debt, I would sooner live illegally in a tent in the woods. Unfortunately I'm not Jewish enough to mindlessly make money on my money though.

>>48895 This book from 2007-2009 concerns millenial generation in USA. According to it Americans are really getting dumber as in literacy and professional skills. Whole world follows suit due to globalization. MTV and mySpace were just a beginning. Smartphones and Tiktoc are a logical conclusion.

>>49495 to sum up you lack - money making skills - comprehensive reading skills - economic knowledge - mental identification as human

>>49500 It's more complex than that. I lack money and time allocation skills mostly due to fairly restrictive risk management, which stems from places I won't discuss and you wouldn't understand. Just be thankful you have a functioning body.

>>48900 This is part of the issue i think we are having nowadays. This is not to say there were not people in my generation of Gen Y that played video games all day or watched movies. But i do think a lot of parents did not allow much internet and cell phone usage until a certain age, and also giving smart phones until a certain age. My internet usage was limited until i was 13 and i was allowed to have a cell phone when i was 12(granted internet browsers were not as advanced back then). There was always a scare about strangers online much as there are in real life of taking advantage of children. But for a good while i think most have just not cared, and have grown so decadent that they only care about their lives, giving their children literal kid feed the instant oatmeal, the mac n cheese easy makes, and not bothering to give them much experience at museums or even just to spend time with them. They just threw the Ipad or the Android phone and told them to go search youtube or google it. This is why everything is as bad, because more and more "adults" are acting no different than children, they feel stunted and isolated. When this happens it's easy to become a copycat than it is to make original things because of the lack of a desktop computer(which they can find out how to use photoshop or video edit with ease), the lack of parenting and overall a lack of culture. I would argue if some were raised with this even slightly the internet as a whole would be beneficial for it, as it's easy to create things, but most are too lazy and are reliant on others to do things for them and just save image, spam it, copy and paste words and being a passive consumer of memetics and culture than to help be collaborator of culture.

Honestly having taken most drugs, the internet and games are a lot more addicting.

>>48925 In 2019 we were talking about wagies in their cagies, and now in 2021 that is the reality. Either you work out of your bedroom (or "office") or you work in a physical cage in retail, or some office where there is as little physical contact with customers as possible. The irony that we're still talking about open offices in the CY is hilarious. I'd love to go back to those days, but they don't seem to be a reality any time soon.

>>48911 >Nice try zewmer, I bet you typed that while huffing down your 5th juul today... The facebook whistleblower soykaf should have come as no surprise that advertisers are persistently trying to get and keep kids hooked so they can keep muh profit margins pic unrelated I just couldn't find any more of my ___mer memes

>>50864 That whistleblower was such an fed gayop lol Here you go btw

>>49930 You vill eat ze bugs and live in ze wagie pod

>>48931 >A workspace being filled with noise and conversation used to be commonplace, acceptable, and people were able to cope with it instead of having anxieties and misophonias. Workplaces also didn't used to be enormous echo chambers (literal echo chambers) that reflected all that sound everywhere. Even offices used to have much more loud machinery that dulled conversation noise from far away. Nowadays, if nobody talks the office is basically silent, and as soon as someone talks everyone can hear it. Even for people with completely normal socialization that is an oppressive environment.