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Concerned About the Future and Living with

Special Agent Bob · 2020-12-27 04:25
I'll try to keep this as short as possible. It's obvious that regardless of the actual danger that COVID-19 posses or doesn't posses, one thing is obvious: governments around the world have used this virus to push lots of laws that restrict people's rights and freedoms. And what worries me more is that the people (especially those who consume unhealthy amounts of social/mainstream media) are going along with it without even questioning it. It seems that any criticism or actual evidence against COVID-19 measures is being censored (including experts who have disagreed with the WHO/CDC/world governments). I for one do not want to be living in a world like this; I have the privilege of living in a small town so I don't have to worry so much about these restrictions. But I see online that people have gotten less trustworthy of each other and more persistent about shouting at people to wear a mask (which still have not been proven to prevent spreading and most people who do catch COVID-19 wore masks regularly). People are so scared a virus about catching a virus that 1% of the world population has and has a 2% of killing you or somehow spreading it to a nursing home that they've never been too. And the final thing I fear is the vaccine. I am not against vaccinations in general because they have been a time tested solution to viruses, but by doing some research, the developed COVID-19 vaccine seems to be a fishy in that it does not work the same way that traditional vaccines work, that it has not been extensively tested on animals yet, and that it is the fasted developed and approved vaccine ever. I personally I will not consider getting it until at least six months from now in order to observe the side effects and evaluate the potential risks. It appears that in the future those who do not want to take the vaccine for whatever reason will be denied basic human rights like traveling and becoming second class citizens. What can we do to resist these restrictions? I was hoping that this virus would go away by the end if the year, but I guess staying inside during the summer didn't work because being outside during the heat actually kills viruses and boosts the immune system. Also sorry if this was sounded like a ramble, I wanted to get this off my chest.
Zero Cool · 2020-12-27 05:46
>>37300 If employment or even merely entering a supermarket is contingent on vaccination, looks like we will have to find some alternative ways to make a living and eat food. When it comes to groceries, you can get it delivered through some kind of app or service nowadays. Yeah it costs more, but if you don't want to get vaxxed, it's the only alternative outside of growing your own food. The tough part for me is finding employment or making a living. But to be honest, I was having trouble with that even before covid. Nothing changed. It's all fuarrrked. One of the horrifying things to me is that it will not be the government that will deliver us to the dystopian hell we always imagined, but it will be the people themselves who reign it in, for the sake of some perceived gain of security and return to normalcy. Well, the new normal is anything but normal.
Erik Johansson · 2020-12-27 06:09
>>37300 >it has not been extensively tested on animals yet, This is exactly true. Coronavirus is known to be from animals but Covid mutated to transmit through humans but I don't think it's 'downgrade-able' so what they (general term) do is test them to "humans" preferably the third world countries that have idiotic politicians who would sell out their citizens in exchange of money. The good thing though is all the pharma probably wants a "very effective" vaccine because it would get them very rich. The bad thing though is every pharma has a "culture/sample" of the virus and it's only a matter of time until some rotten tomatoes out of the bunch just modifies it or make accident in some laboratory. No one's stopping anyone putting the virus in some petri dish and accelerating its mutation somewhere and I'm sure that it's happening somewhere out there. Simulation ends.
Demeere · 2020-12-27 07:24
The truth is that that this world belongs to the normal users and the financial elite, we just exist on the fringes of their world and ride the tides that the cattle make when the elites snap their fingers and they begin writhing to their tune be it because of financial incentive, brainwashing and conditioning, etc. There is nothing that can be done about this unless you're able to create a veritable information dissemination platform out of thin air that normal users perceive as credible. Anybody with half a brain in their head has realized the entire thing is based on ulterior motives at this point. People can call you a conspiracy crackpot all they want but the truth is that they took a classification of viruses (coronaviruses) that circulate in numbers every year and are mistaken as common colds and flus, and associated a scare with it. The flu has essentially gone away completely this year, yet you're a conspiracy theorist if you point it out. Every credible medical official on the planet, including medical professionals operating on the political level told use wearing a mask was pointless and shouldn't be done for the better part of the beginning of the virus; this was until they got their orders from whoever that said "no, we can use this". Not to mention the hospitals receiving massive payouts for each covid patient they treat, as well as the fact that the statistics differ drastically in statistic for no reason other than, well, what exactly? They'll continue using it and nothing can be done. Even if most people catch on and begin to oppose the government overreach they'll continue pumping out information that makes it seem like most people side with the government and think they're right. All of those sill theories people used to come up with, and those beginning of oppressive technocratic governments you read about in fiction, it's taking taking place in real time right now and they have everyone by the balls. Life isn't going back to normal, people in charge don't realize they have such power and just relinquish it willingly. My suggestion, at least if you're in the US is to move somewhere more right-leaning and smaller. They will be the ones who are more able to weather things and be self-sufficient as time passes. Get ready because 2021 is going to be the year where you have to decide whether or not you give up autonomy for the sake of luxury, even now there are already airlines talking about requiring proof of getting your memeflu shot to fly with them.
Dr. X · 2020-12-27 07:49
>>37300 I am ecstatic over the lockdowns, restrictions, mandatory separations, and ban on almost all forms of public social interaction in person. It is bringing attention to social issues that have gone under the radar for years and it is also helping to teach people to be self-reliant by forcing them to be alone. I am also hopeful that this will lead to the creation of UBI or something similar, we say some insignificant calls for it during the early election year, but now almost everybody wants UBI and are getting furious that many govs (especially in America) are refusing to give a significant amount or any amount of UBI at all. If the mutated version of Coronavirus becomes widespread and another vaccine has to be developed then the lockdowns and therefore calls for UBI and other policies will continue as well. If we get into a loop of virus mutations and vaccine development, then the age of UBI, totalitarianism, and lockdowns may be upon us. Things are finally looking up, what are you anons going to do with your free time and cash?
The Phantom Phreak · 2020-12-27 07:53
>>37300 Ironic you use a picture of new Zealand because we've been covid free for months now. We don't have lockdown anymore and life returned off.
Marly Krushkhova · 2020-12-27 07:56
>>37306 If it ever happens, the US isn't getting UBI for a very long time anon. You underestimate how much control of the government the financial sector has. >It is bringing attention to social issues that have gone under the radar for years Like what? It has been especially hard on mental health without it getting any extra attention in addressing it. The numbers of people taking SSRI, SNRI's has skyrocketed this year, so much so that there have been supply issues with certain SSRI's at pharmacies. Hopefully you don't mean the black memes matter bullshit, if you unironically think that you're mentally 15 years old.
Armitage · 2020-12-27 07:58
>>37303 Curbside deliveries and supermarket automation are most likely going to become more prevalent. Give it time and we might see supermarkets become very similar to the Amazon stores that popped up a few years back where there is no person or machine to go through to buy groceries, rather, you just pick up whatever you want, put it in your bag, and the cameras and sensors in the store will detect what you purchased and will then charge your credit/debit card when you walk out of the store with it, the only staff that are there are to do stuff like security, food preparation, and customer assistance in case they need help finding items or have a dead phone or whatever else. I really don't see any other way that stores will go if this continues, and it's not a bad thing, contact is minimized even further, costs go way down since fewer employees are needed.
Incognito · 2020-12-27 08:07
>>37308 >If it ever happens, the US isn't getting UBI for a very long time anon That is debatable, people like Andrew Yang and Bernie have picked up a very significant amount of support in recent years and these economic troubles, as well as them supporting beliefs that the common people now also support, will help propel their political careers, that, and the US govs deadlock over relief policies is only aggravating people to support beliefs that previously would have been unthinkable. >Like what? It has been especially hard on mental health without it getting any extra attention in addressing it The keyword is "addressing", most people don't care about addressing it right now, but what does matter is that the issues are getting brought up at all now that people are being forced to stay at home and be by themselves. The issues I have in mind are things such as social isolation and the epidemic of it, give it time for studies and attention to be brought to it, and we may just see a change in society around the issue of isolation and its effects, for better or for worse, that remains to be seen.
Yet Another Lainon · 2020-12-27 08:27
>>37310 Don't get me wrong I appreciate your optimism and hope you're right about mental health but I feel that push has been in motion for some time and it's more of a feel-good surface level type of attention. Its just led to more young women claiming to be diagnosed with CPTSD even though you can't be diagnosed with it technically yet. People who silently struggle all over the world will continue their cursed march through life with little to no sympathy or care.
Hagbard Celine · 2020-12-27 09:09
>People are so scared a virus about catching a virus that 1% of the world population has and has a 2% of killing you or somehow spreading it to a nursing home that they've never been too. But it doesn't have to kill you to fuarrrk up your life, especially for poorer people like most Americans. It can fuarrrk you up healthwise (respiratory complications) and financially (hospital costs if you require treatment, lost work if you have the moral empathy to isolate yourself). That chance is much higher than a couple of percent. When this is extrapolated to a large populace and not just you, a few percent will has a major impact on the nation. Hence, legal requirements to not be an inconsiderate risk. >What can we do to resist these restrictions? Do your best to end the pandemic in your area, so the restrictions aren't wanted. Putting a few of people in quarantine (not prison) to potentially save thousands of lives... that's pretty reasonable. sage for propaganda-style image in OP. poor taste.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2020-12-27 09:42
>>37312 Yeah, the people who want everything shut down and actively try to make sure we don't have fair healthcare in the US are shutting it down for our own good. You realize how backwards that logic is. None of what they're doing is to help people. Wealth has been consolidated way more, and it was getting bad before. Big business is thriving while mom and pops crash and burn. I'm sorry but you're a fuarrrking retard if you still think the whole reaction is organic and "for our own good". Even some of the top virologists in the world in Europe have come out said there is literally no difference between covid and there plethora of coronaviruses that circulate yearly. There's a lot of midwits like you who aren't privy to having one pulled over on you, or are just plain unwilling to admit you got duped really fuarrrking hard.
Ein · 2020-12-27 10:19
>>37312 The risk of covid is a nothingburger because it contributes little to already existing risks. Your chances to get your life fuarrrked are at its baseline much higher than the additional risk covid provides.
Jean Dupont · 2020-12-27 11:01
>>37314 >Even some of the top virologists in the world in Europe have come out said there is literally no difference between covid and there plethora of coronaviruses that circulate yearly And yet the vast majority of infectious disease experts disagree on that one. You can find a minority of experts in all fields with contrarian opinions such as vaccines causing autism or climate change not being real. We can tell that it is real from the fact that hospitals are being overrun in areas that aren't dealing with it properly and the fact that excess death has spiked immensly in most countries. If it was the same as a standard coronavirus then we wouldn't see huge increases in excess death especially since lockdowns reduce death rates anyway would we? The real midwits are the ones that ignore all of this like you to decide that actually its fake and every major country has tanked its own economy for just a cold bro.
Turner · 2020-12-27 11:22
>>37314 They aren't doing it for the good of the individuals in the nation. I never said they were. You're quoting yourself. They're doing it for the good of 'the nation'. In America's federal government view, that's very distinct. America is a fuarrrked-up ultra-captialist dystopia who literally made a self-centered professional businessman the head of state. However, they ''have'' to care about you to some degree, or their business stops working. If too many of their workers ("citizens") die or can't work, the country collapses and China and Russia fight for the spoils. If you lived in a country where people willingly cared for each other (or in many cases, where people actually had the choice to care for each other instead of work to afford shelter for the month), then the government wouldn't need to babysit you for a few years for its own survival. Plus, even the self-centered politicians do want to get re-elected. Hundreds and thousands of deaths didn't look good on Trump's record and those of the state governers, regardless or the cause. Do you think the next governments will risk the same damage? >Even some of the top virologists in the world in Europe have come out said there is literally no difference between covid and there plethora of coronaviruses that circulate yearly. No: Plethora? There are only seven known to infect humans (HCoV-OC43, HCoV-HKU1, HCoV-229E, HCoV-NL63, MERS-CoV, SARS-CoV, SARS-CoV-2). If they were literally the same, they wouldn't have different names, affect different parts of your respiratory system, have different infection and mortality rates (MERS ~35% mortality rate and 866 total deaths, SARS ~10% mortality and 812 total deaths, COVID19 ~1-3% mortality rate and well over 1,000,000 deaths in one year, other four are trivial mortality rates and trivial deaths despite wide spread). Got a source? It sounds like you read something and stated it incorrectly. >There's a lot of midwits like you who aren't privy to having one pulled over on you, or are just plain unwilling to admit you got duped really fuarrrking hard. No, I just don't live in America or a similar country which (both at a federal and individual level) shat the fuc­king bed. We had very few restrictions (basically just maximum number of people at events and movement across borders), most of which are already lifted, and Mom and Pop stores are doing fine. We had a functional healthcare system and mandatory paid sick leave and companies (large and small) had government financial support for wages. Shit's basically over in my region of the world. Just don't live in a soykafhole filled with turds lol.
Batou · 2020-12-27 11:24
>>37316 >actually its fake and every major country has tanked its own economy for just a cold bro. No retard, actually every major nation tanked its own economy to take away my freedoms.
Crazy Jake · 2020-12-27 15:38
>>37319 >Do you think the next governments will risk the same damage? Horrifying as it is, I think they might. Biden has surrounded himself with a cabal of Wall Street and military-industrial-entertainment-complex insiders. They don't feel personal danger yet. Nothing will change until they do, and at that point it will be too late. I think the United States became a lost cause the moment that Bernie Sanders was cheated out of the nomination. From that point on, it only became a question of picking the colour of the lawn sign of the demented, geriatric Wall Street puppet occupying the oval office. >We had a functional healthcare system More to the point, you actually have a healthcare system. The United States doesn't. It just has a bunch of disparate hospitals that triage patients according to their bank balance to keep shareholders happy, and has basically non-existent preventative care.
Agent Jones · 2020-12-27 17:59
>>37305 >The truth is that that this world belongs to the normal users and the financial elite True. "Surf the Kali Yuga" is the term a certain politically incorrect board* uses for this >>37300 The thing you can look forward to OP is - those same leaders who are busy turning Western democracies into little totalitarian Chinese colonies will be wiped out when China invades. Traitors to a country are universally hated, even by those they help. New Zealand, UK, Canada, Australia for example don't have the military capacity to defend themselves from China. So it's only the short-sighted in denial thinking that the Chinese "Xi: Prepare now for war!" army will not invade. The idea of NATO or America coming to the rescue is laughable considering President Biden is Chinese owned. 2021 is the Year of WAR. *(the board name gets word filtered here)
Linda Lee · 2020-12-27 18:09
>>37312 >Putting a few of people in quarantine (not prison) to potentially save thousands of lives... that's pretty reasonable You don't deserve freedom if you place it's value below safety. Every other pandemic = wear masks and continue, isolate the sick. This 'pandemic' = aircraft with 400+ Chinese from Wuhan were flying around the world YET the places they flew to had it's citizens under house arrest. WTF??!! Thus, it is not about a 'pandemic' or 'safety'. It is obviously a mere excuse for increased authoritarian state control.
Faye Valentine · 2020-12-27 19:52
>But I see online that people have gotten less trustworthy of each other and more persistent about shouting at people to wear a mask Happens the other way around too. People are just very hateful these days. >It appears that in the future those who do not want to take the vaccine for whatever reason will be denied basic human rights like traveling and becoming second class citizens. I'm very worried about this too. It's not just the vaccines, they're part of a bigger push to get everyone into "the system" and essentially deny basic human rights to anyone who doesn't have a firmly established online identity that makes them easy to track (both by govs and corps). It's amazingly hard to get *any* services, private or public, if you don't have ID, and impossible to get most jobs. If you're brown and can't prove you're a citizen you're risking deportation every time you leave the house, especially if you live close to the border (where nobody really has rights). I expect this trend to only get worse. >but I guess staying inside during the summer didn't work because being outside during the heat actually kills viruses and boosts the immune system. mmmmaybe. There's still a pretty large virgin population so weather probably isn't affecting it much yet. I'm not *that* worried about the effectiveness of the vaccine. I also don't think coronavirus will be a significant problem by next summer, vaccine or no. It'll probably become a seasonal bug that occasionally mutates to something nasty, much like the flu. Regardless I'm going to go out and enjoy next summer, virus be damned.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2020-12-27 19:54
>>37334 (also yes this post is US-centric because I live in the US, but I expect a similar trend to be happening everywhere else too)
Neuromancer · 2020-12-27 20:24
Yet abother fud thread. Options: - Dig a hole, jump in, cover yourself up. - Kill yourself now. - Stop being paranoid and making up ridiculous horseshit to scare yourself and others with. - (my preference) just stfu. :3
Frank Garza · 2020-12-27 20:36
I'm entirely with you OP. The power of mainstream media is close to infinite.
off-topic · 2020-12-27 20:46
>>37329 >"Surf the Kali Yuga" is the term a certain politically incorrect board uses for this The decay of certain imageboards is partially attributable to people who think "politically incorrect" and "politics" have similar meanings. And you're right, it is a politically incorrect-themed board rather than a true community of the board's political topic. I introduced an actual well-read member of the ideology (who formally debates for it) to that site and they just laughed. The pinned theory list is for show. The userbase is mostly idiots who don't know how to interpret basic statistics or process complexity beyond flawed analogies or cope with historical information that doesn't paint a perfect escapist fantasy. The BO is surprisingly cool though.
Shogun · 2020-12-27 20:51
>>37329 Cool, another war for me to not fight.
Molly Millions · 2020-12-27 20:56
>>37335 >(also yes this post is US-centric because I live in the US, but I expect a similar trend to be happening everywhere else too) That's your mistake. Some of us live in actual democracies where the government actually does their job reasonably well in order to represent their constituents and get re-elected. Hell, even many totalitarians like Castro and a few fascists cared about the people a lot. USA is more unique than you think, even among its close allies. Like we've said, this whole thing is under control in our nations. Some states now have no restrictions left except for cross-border travel.
Meddler · 2020-12-27 21:02
>>37343 >Like we've said, this whole thing is under control in our nations. Some states now have no restrictions left except for cross-border travel. Sure doesn't look like it...
Haruyoshi · 2020-12-27 21:04
>>37343 >Some of us live in actual democracies where the government actually does their job reasonably well in order to represent their constituents and get re-elected I'm legitimately curious where this is the case. I want to move there.
Erik Johansson · 2020-12-27 22:38
>>37344 Why did you assume I'm from Western Europe? Here's a few examples: (scroll down and use JS for graphs) >Taiwan: 7 deaths total, ~130 active cases, <30 daily cases since Feb 19 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/taiwan >Iceland: 28 deaths total, ~150 active cases, <=25 daily cases for the past month https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland >New Zealand: 25 deaths total, ~50 active cases, <10 daily cases for two months in a row https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/ >Australia: 908 deaths total, ~1,700 active cases, <50 daily cases since mid-September https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/ >>37345 I'm in a dark green nation on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#Democracy_Index_by_country_2019 It's not a magical gospel but it is a loose indicator, as far as democracies go. That said, caring about citizen's wellbeing isn't exclusive to democracies; a benevolent totalitarian will do so too. However as we know, that can go wrong very quickly when a non-benevolent totalitarian gets power, so IMO it's not worth the risk.
Ender · 2020-12-28 20:58
COVID denying idiots are the reason my sister is currently fighting it. She's a nurse at a children's hospital. Some moron who knew they were positive went there to visit a patient and caused an outbreak that's now affecting multiple kids and a bunch of staff. Thanks, assholes. Y'all motherfuckers are dumb.
Naomi Nascimento · 2020-12-28 21:26
>>37383 You're glowing as fuarrrk right now. Prove you aren't a fed
Marly Krushkhova · 2020-12-28 22:20
>>37384 he does, but at this point, I'd be not so sure, brainwashing is so far gone that he might be so certain of this, that he wont allow other option, >>37383 i hope your sis goes out of this with no consequences, but it's another way of dividing us, see that clear dichotomy: covid denying/covid worshiper it's true bullshit, instead of coming together counting cases etc. it comes to infighting while those on top count dosh coming from new avenues, our noose tightens, UBI has it's positives but also negatives, and it seems it is going to pass next, oh you have no last gen chip in your ass, sorry starve to death, any kind of work loosing adequate splendor and benefits since anyone is "precious", cant you see that witht what passes, everyone is more dependent on global financiers, and they are not what PR makes them to be, i might at this point be rambling, but please tell me I'm not only one
Agent Smith · 2020-12-28 22:42
>>37388 I was only joking. Actually I wouldn't call that a joke. I didn't mean what I said in any case. Maybe coronavirus really is a thing. I don't believe that the fight against it has been in good faith though. They want to shut down everything and have effectively killed all the small businesses who can't afford to comply, but they refuse to pay people to actually be able to stay home, aside from these stupid one-off stimulus checks that don't mean anything on the long run. If I'm already on the street - some $1200 or $600 isn't going to help put me back in a home! And that's just one example.
Cat Mother · 2020-12-28 22:45
>>37384 >Prove you aren't a fed Provide a methodology.
Frank Garza · 2020-12-28 23:09
https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152?lang=en >Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China🇨🇳. pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG >3:18 AM - 14 Jan 2020 https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/who-chief-urges-countries-not-close-borders-foreigners-china >"There is no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade. We call on all countries to implement decisions that are evidence-based and consistent. WHO stands ready to provide advice to any country that is considering which measures to take,” Tedros said. https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/02/1056672 >“People had suddenly the impression that the virus was in the air and…there is this cloud of virus” that can cause infection, she said. “This is not the situation. Currently the virus is transmitted through droplets and you need a close contact to be infected…So we try to clarify what we know about the science - what is still unknown - and provide recommendations that can help people to protect themselves and their families.” >Dr Briand’s comments echo those of WHO Director-General, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, who on Monday said that the agency was working with major internet platforms to ensure that WHO’s information about the coronavirus appears first in online searches. >He also downplayed reports that people infected with the virus may be contagious before they show symptoms — a feature that, if true, would make it much harder to control. >“Until [containment] is impossible, we should keep trying,” Dr. Mike Ryan, head of the WHO’s Emergencies Program, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/face-masks-cannot-stop-healthy-people-getting-covid-19-says-who https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/who-no-need-for-healthy-people-to-wear-face-masks-2020-4 >The World Health Organization has held off from recommending people wear face masks in public after assessing fresh evidence that suggested the items may help to contain the pandemic. http://www.fao.org/europe/news/detail-news/en/c/1267349/ >There is no evidence of the involvement of animals (livestock and pets) in the spread of the coronavirus, and there is no justification in taking measures that may compromise animal welfare.
Gyula Kovacs · 2020-12-28 23:10
https://healthpolicy-watch.news/theres-no-evidence-of-food-borne-transmission-of-covid-19-says-who/ >There is ‘no evidence’ that the SARS-CoV-2 virus can be transmitted in food or on food packaging, said the World Health Organization on Thursday. >WHO’s Executive Director of Health Emergencies Mike Ryan made the comments in response to reports that a dozen frozen chicken wings imported into China’s southern city of Shenzhen tested positive for COVID-19, sparking concern that contaminated food could spur outbreaks of the coronavirus.
Leto Atreides I · 2020-12-28 23:11
Grow your own food and dumpster dive, do not submit or surrender. The government and corporations do not care about you, they do not have your interests in mind. Do not trust the who or the billionaires who fund them. It was a mistake to let them create biological weapons.
Elliot Alderson · 2020-12-28 23:14
>>37390 I've noticed you're partly joking tune, so easy on that part, my sis is in the potentially higher risk group, heck i might first font depending on what govt decides, that is part I'm denouncing what is said is not what it done, 'course I'm somewhat afraid of my mum, but it's not real deal she'll die in next 10+ yrs or so and then what, no home, no nothing work for what, under bridge sleep spot, thanks but i don't need that, it seems a lot of left wing supporters and other visible here guys, seem to be thrilled about what is to come we live in cyberpunk coming to life, except it seems those that were supposedly against it and soo enlightened, are following it blindly
Spooky · 2020-12-28 23:51
>>37384 prove YOU're not a fed!!
Naomi Nascimento · 2020-12-29 00:04
>>37396 everyone ITT is a fed, be warned non-fed bros
H.R. Giger · 2020-12-29 00:22
>>37397 shiiit whasts up fedbro? Which agency you in?
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2020-12-29 00:59
>>37398 Stratfor
Jim Hilger · 2020-12-29 02:28
>>37399 nice. I'm in Mossad but actually I'm just on assignment from [REDACTED]
Y.T · 2020-12-29 05:09
>>37403 thats cool i got a bonus recently
Koos van der Merwe · 2020-12-29 05:56
>>37404 how's the pension over there?
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2020-12-29 12:17
Im glad someone points it out this way, many specific things have been said about this whole ordeal, but very few about the general effects. As it was said things will never be the same again and this will go a whole lot further, further than most people think possible. >>37303 One day it might slide down to this, i only hope i can get away from the system by then. The pandemic clearly caused a climate of perpetual fear that will snowball itself down further, at the same time people that desperatly want to go back to the old ways follow any measures the big man tells em to thinking one day it will be just as it was. Certainly governments will not let go of the power they have gained over the people, or should i say the people will not event want control over their lifes back. Bottom line being, dont trust them, dont believe them, they do not have your best interests in mind and they have proven so in the past many times. >>37306 I have a different perspective, the plague has masked most issues of any nature and in fact even made people ignore them entirely, many of which are far more disturbing than the pandemic itself. Many new issues even sprung up as a result of the measures and they will bite us in the ass in the years to come. I am not just talking about economic or social problems which basically result the rich and powerful rising the new heights and the media having approval of the people for a all out social witchhunt against everyone who opposes the system but also for one all the mask with the plastic that are being tossed everywhere. What honestly bothers me the most is that almost nobody speaks about how unhealthy we live and all these measures are there just as a duct tape patch on a leaky dam. Our air and food is poisoned, not to mention living in these tiny houses in poluted cities in tiny concrete blocks all day just to sit in front of a computer doing work that is worthless but drains us of energy. If people would live healthier and atleast partially grow their own food and walk rather than using the car for fuarrrking everything problems like these would never happen. I think most people here know that sitting at home isolated all day in front of a machine is the opposite of healthy and will have such results. >>37392 I dont want to bring "conspiracy theories" into this, books could be filled with it, but it should not be a suprise that atleast some part of the narrative will be a lie for one reason or another. Capitalism alone explains why pharmaceutical companies and other organizations might fake evidence, let alone the power they have to do so not to mention they have no scrutiny. >>37329 >"Surf the Kali Yuga" Good one, totally describes present day present time. I agree there with you, not to mention google, facebook and friends are all big in china now and they have been enemies of freedom for a long time now. It looks a lot like those will be the big players in 2021, so big that even goverments cant stop them, the media is out of hand, no matter how you twist or turn it. >>37334 Yes this is just how far things have gotten and we are split into two camps further polarizing one another. Take the following link as example: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/uk-journalist-hounded-after-pointing-out-only-old-and-sick-die-covid Whetever or not this is true, it has little significance that it came this far. Now either people want lockdowns, masks, censorship and basically medical dictatorship or they potentially spread harmful disease and misinformation. Regardless of what is true parties will always use information in a way that benefits them, either for deliberet profit or just being right and the media cashes in on it bigtime. The technocracy is here and its here to stay, people have played right into it so far that they even want it now. The covid circus crazyness is yet to peak and this will only warrant a lot more mandated madness sooner than we think. I can only try to keep my head down and hope it will eat itself up, watching from the sides and trying to get out of it as much as i can. I dont think there is any way out of this other than total collapse of civilization at this point. The whole thing was amusing when it started, i could go out on the street and it was dead empty, schools were closed, it felt like a new world, now its just stale and empty, state of emergency is the new normal.
Nemissa · 2020-12-29 21:22
>>37420 This pandemic is a 3 month problem AT MAXIMUM. SARS-CoV-2 will be eradicated from the Earth with 3 months of >95% proper respiratory protection use. Total cost 8 billion dollars for 8 billion N95s, each worn for 3 months. Everyone on Earth could have survived if they knew to use face masks in January 2020, but that's obviously not what the ruling elites want.
Elliot Alderson · 2020-12-30 00:44
>>37433 Never underestimate the power of idiots. http://harmful.cat-v.org/people/basic-laws-of-human-stupidity/
Gyula Kovacs · 2020-12-30 17:42
The US government could have sent the 7 trillion they've blown directly to the people. According to the 2020 census, that's 79.6 million households. That comes out to nearly $88,000 per household, more than enough for people to stay the fuarrrk home and ride it out. Instead, they decided to deep throat that ultracapitalist corporate cock. Bring back the fuarrrking guillotine. >>37384 I'm on too many watchlists to be a fed, but thanks for playing.
Unspecified · 2020-12-30 18:21
>>37433 Every >110 iq person I know bought N95/P100 respirator as early as March and was wearing it since. There was a shortage of proper PPE for just a month, but you always could buy it from resellers if you cared enough. >>37453 >instead of saving fisheries that catch tons and tons of fish each day, we'll close them and give each man a fish! Great idea if you are incapable of thinking even one step ahead.
Cowboy · 2020-12-30 18:41
>>37433 Never attribute to malice something that can be equally attributes to stupidity.
Haruyoshi · 2020-12-30 19:13
>>37454 >Every >110 iq person I know bought N95/P100 respirator as early as March and was wearing it since. There was a shortage of proper PPE for just a month, but you always could buy it from resellers if you cared enough. Even if you didn't get scammed and wound up with the real thing. Masks only serve the purpose of a religious symbol now, to ward off the evil corona god and signal to others that you're on the side of "science". Paying any more money than you need to on it is not a very high iq thing to do.
Yu-ichi · 2020-12-30 21:17
I don't get why, outside of a minority of people with breathing problems, masks trigger this kind of hostility with some people.
Turner · 2020-12-30 21:37
>>37459 >I don't get why, outside of a minority of people with breathing problems, masks trigger this kind of hostility with some people. I'm not being hostile to masks. I'm being hostile to the implication that smart people wear them because they're smart. A cloth mask is to current year liberals what a gold crucifix is to christians.
Pris · 2020-12-30 22:14
>>37460 Smart people don't wear masks: masks don't guarantee protection from getting infected, they are hot, hold vapor, rub against your face, fog up glasses and are generally very uncomfortable to use. Smart people wear respirators, with masks over the exhaust valve. Cloth mask use was questionable at first, before it wasn't clear how the virus is transmitted, but today it's obvious that it doesn't spread by itself as easily as measles and even a cloth mask is beneficial as it is still a barrier for droplets.
Drano · 2020-12-30 22:19
>>37454 >Great idea if you are incapable of thinking even one step ahead. In your analogy people eat the fish and that's it, but if you indiscriminately give each household money just by sheer statistics you're bound to empower some percentage of your population to make proper investments and the money also doesn't really leave the country. Enough arguments can be construed for both perspectives, but good job attacking the person instead.
Faye Valentine · 2020-12-30 22:36
>>37459 Cause it was literally reported as a scam. Feb. it was reported by wall str that the people who told you no to masks from both parties where literally buying up mask company stocks whole time before they flipped and declared it mandatory. The spin on this was of course see no to mask was false and merely guided by financial incentives but theres gotta be plenty who took it as another take on this is all bullshit.
Liet Kynes · 2020-12-30 22:45
Not so much a ramble Special Agent Bob, I think you hit the nail on the head. We are in some deep murky soykaf.
Liet Kynes · 2020-12-30 22:48
>>37463 Vast majority of people would eat through the money and that's it, though. I'm not against giving out money to people in such cases, but in this context saving corporations that make money is much more important than giving 88k$ to individuals, even if we pretend for a minute that giving out 88k$ to each person in US won't cause such a massive economic collapse that these 88k$ would buy you just 2 gallons of milk the next day. >>37464 I believe it was done to prevent panic and ensure that medics have enough PPE for themselves. Most gullible people believed for a few weeks that masks are only for doctors and it's not possible to wear it properly unless you are a trained nurse...
fsociety · 2020-12-30 23:21
I had Covid. What an absolute joke of a virus. I had a mild fever/muscle ache for two days and it was over. As far as I'm concerned the people who get killed by this thing are dead walking. That 2% we're protecting are seriously ill, super-elderly or obese while the people that take the biggest economic hit because of the lockdown are young and healthy. Maybe empathy should have some limits, I don't know, I'll leave that to ethicists.
The Phantom Phreak · 2020-12-30 23:53
>>37453 In the end, it was just another crisis they wanted to take advantage of. Justifying endless money printing, endless lockdowns, endless mass surveillance, biological experiments on humans, shutting down small businesses, forced vaccinations, eliminating cash and face-to-face meetings, and of course legally killing people by the millions. If this soykaf doesn't end within 10 years, I promise that everyone single one of the ruling elites will be hanging from a lamppost. >>37466 The correct solution is to give everyone an N95, not fuarrrking fiat, so that they don't die of SARS-CoV-2 or crash the economy with endless lockdowns. It both saves money and saves lives.
Emmanuel · 2020-12-31 01:10
>>37466 If they wanted to prevent a panic they wouldnt let it get dramatized 24/7 on tv. The most sensible take is to take it at face value - they were merely interested in making bank and took the necessary action for it.
Mitnick · 2020-12-31 01:58
Im not completely fuarrrking off the deep end in regards to conspiracies so i dont think the virus is like "fake" or "no one has actually died of coronavirus" etc etc etc. The amount of deaths while high is not "that" crazy for an over the average flu season. But at this stage i definitely do believe its being used by the "governments" (like most national governments collectively) to do like "social-engineering" soykaf basically where they are trying to pretty much put us in the cyberpunk mindset where its like "You will stay in your pod all day unless called to work, You will remain as distant from other human beings as possible at all times, You will eat the bugs you will take the vaccine you will install the government spy-wear! etc, You wont be functionally employed for wages you will "work"* for Uber-Lift-Deliveroo and take every assignment on a piece meal / "independent contractor" basis etc etc etc"
Vasya Pupkin · 2020-12-31 02:29
>>37459 because they are a mild inconvenience, and for some people even the mildest inconvenience is something worth pissing and moaning over. More importantly they signify political allegiance. It's like wearing red or blue in LA, just less deadly. I wear a mask when I'm out & about but I don't give a soykaf whether other people do. I was an expert people dodger before and I have honed my skills to perfection. >>37420 >I can only try to keep my head down and hope it will eat itself up, watching from the sides and trying to get out of it as much as i can. good strategy. It will burn itself out inevitably, maybe not in our lifetimes though. Until then it's better to be free than to chain yourself to it one way or another (either its success or its demise) >now its just stale and empty, state of emergency is the new normal. expect that to only increase over time. Not necessarily with this particular disaster, but expect the disasters to keep coming, year after year and month after month. I'm already used to yearly wildfires and drought (yay California). That said, the self-imposed isolation we have put ourselves in for coronavirus is extremely unnatural and stressful, we are a eusocial species after all. There is overwhelming social pressure to end it, even in the most liberal circles. Everyone is touch-starved and going crazy. Whether or not the danger truly passes, restrictions will loosen and eventually become nonexistent. I expect long-term, people will be more careful when they're sick (good) and handshakes will stay a thing of the past (also good). >>37467 My friend got bronchitis from covid. Aside from spending almost all his time inside, he's a healthy individual. I've seen him walk 12 miles in a day. >>37473 that was already in full swing long before covid. Never let a good disaster go to waste and all that.
Fred Nurk · 2020-12-31 02:35
>>37466 Corporations do not exist to make your life easier, they only exist to extract profits from the labor of the 99% and transfer it to the 1%. Corporations make inferior products for a higher cost than what you can make yourself, for example cooking your own food, writing your own software, building your own house or rolling your own cigars. If you eat corporate fast food, you are poisoning yourself with food additives, if you use corporate software, you are a botnet surveillanceware victim. Corporations are fully willing to do things that hurt you for the sole sake of maximizing profit, like adding drm or wasting food. You do not need corporations to live, and you will find that life is much easier without them.
Roy Batty · 2020-12-31 02:57
>>37475 >Corporations make inferior products for a higher cost than what you can make yourself, for example cooking your own food, writing your own software, building your own house or rolling your own cigars. this is true sometimes and very very not true other times. Mass production has significantly lower marginal resource cost compared to individual production, especially for things that require specialized equipment like computers.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2020-12-31 08:43
>>37471 Well, media is a business after all.....
Armitage · 2020-12-31 08:54
>>37471 They should panic about the virus and all it brings, they shouldn't panic-buy important things, at least until it's clear that everyone in the country can get a mask. The swarm of disturbed paranoid locusts should be redirected to more useless things, like paper towels.
Haruyoshi · 2020-12-31 12:40
>>37462 >Smart people don't wear masks Smart people understand that masks are a social signal to other humans and wear whatever the minimal accepted standard is for their peer group. >>37463 Talking to a socialist about economics is like talking to an incel about sex.
Yet Another Lainon · 2020-12-31 20:01
>>37490 >Smart people understand that masks are a social signal to other humans and wear whatever the minimal accepted standard is for their peer group. Yes, like clothing, they are both useful and socially mandatory. If you see someone walking around with their face uncovered and they get TheVarus, well.... they were just asking for it, dressed all slutty like that ;) >Talking to a socialist about economics is like talking to an incel about sex. Economics is a form of theology.
Jane Doe · 2020-12-31 21:55
>>37496 Considering it's supposed to hinder spreading, not catching it, your statement makes no sense.
Unknown · 2020-12-31 22:45
>>37497 it's called a joke, you could try it some time.
Morpheus · 2021-01-01 01:02
>>37476 Even DIY building computers is cheaper than buying a premade corporate model. Mass production is not cheaper than local, customized, manual production. >>37497 There is a reason doctors wear respiratory protection, and it's not because they have SARS-CoV-2. The primary purpose of proper respiratory protection like N95s is protect the wearer.
The Phantom Phreak · 2021-01-01 01:44
>>37501 "building a computer" doesn't just mean snapping together some tinker toys. Do you have an IC fab in your basement?
Ender · 2021-01-01 02:51
>>37473 There seems to be a false dichotomy presented, that either one believes there is no virus and not do anything to protect themselves, or that there is a virus and the only way to protect survive is to obey the government. Neither of these strategies will work against SARS-CoV-2, doing nothing will cause you get infected by the airborne strain, and obeying the government will subject you to literally emergency use authorization experimental treatments, and the airborne strain. Both will cause you to get severely harmed, one way or another. The correct solution is to understand that there is a SARS-CoV-2 exists, and not trust the authorities at all. You should be finding ways to save yourself, not hoping the who, billionaires, pfizer or moderna will save you. You will be rather disappointed if you do. The reason you should use proper respiratory protection is that it is the one technique for protecting yourself from SARS-CoV-2 that doesn't require the approval nor cooperation of pharmaceutical megacorps or governments. It is far superior to vaccines, because you can make DIY N95s and verify the effectiveness of respiratory protection yourself. You literally cannot even sue the pharmaceutical megacorps if you get injured by their vaccine, that is how little they expect them to work.
Dujour · 2021-01-01 02:55
>>37502 http://sam.zeloof.xyz/first-ic/ This guy does.
Hacker · 2021-01-01 12:54
>>37300 I really don't have any faith in governments at all to take advantage of this situation yet. The people in charge just weren't smart enough and were disorganised during 2020. Places like China have taken advantage to remove people's freedoms for good but that's because they're actually authoritarian and organised. The mess we're in is because Western countries are not prepared for this kind of pandemic, unlike eastern Countries who have dealt with this sort of thing before and it was pretty normal to see asian people wearing masks before 2020. A big misunderstanding is people thinking that all these restrictions were made purely because covid is deadly. It's not that deadly to the average person, but its infectiousness and potential to mutate is why all these restrictions are in place. If everybody got infected within a short time period hospitals might not cope and the costs and loss of life could cause a economic loss worse than the effect of lockdowns. Hospitals are already at a high capacity in urban areas right now (atleast that's what they say I can't confirm since I don't work in a hospital). Masks aren't meant to protect you, they can't block the virus, but they will stop your potentially infectious droplets spreading if you sneeze, cough and yawn. The 1% and Corporations who are taking advantage of this situation want people to leave their house and spend money. So governments are trying their best to not stop your right to go out and consume, even when infection rates are on the rise they choose to let people go out and shop and when things get bad they enact a last-minute lockdown, atleast in England that's whats happening. I can fully understand if you're concerned about tracking & tracing as well as getting the population to strictly follow government rules. That is a big concern and in future it will be used against us. It's perfectly possible to have a tracking & tracing system which retains user anonimity but that is not going to happen simply because it's not as beneficial or profitable. Concerning people believing whatever they're told by the media or people being censored because they don't go along with the narrative I can also understand your concerns. On the one hand it sets a dangerous precedent for free speech and political activism against the majority. On the other hand, regarding the covid pandemic, I think this is exaggerated. Most of the people who were censored were simply spreading misinformation due to their poor understanding of statistics. Then these people would gain attraction from the anti-lockdown crowd simply because they confirmed their pre-established beliefs. In this case this sort of misinformation could actually cost lives. But then again this kind of reasoning could also be used in the future to justify censorship of anything that could be considered dangerous. >New Zealand's Covid Prison Camps: COVID-1984 What a stupid image OP.
Lain Iwakura · 2021-01-01 22:39
>>37518 >Masks aren't meant to protect you, they can't block the virus, That is not correct. Air filtration of micron-scale virus particles is a mature technology. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsnano.0c03252#tbl1 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32584542/ https://cace.tamu.edu/research/covid-19-mask-materials/index.html https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/54/7/789/202744 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0240499 >In this case this sort of misinformation could actually cost lives. There is only one party that has spouting disinformation from the very beginning of the pandemic to now, and that is the who. >>37392 https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152?lang=en >Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China🇨🇳. pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG >3:18 AM - 14 Jan 2020 >So governments are trying their best to not stop your right to go out and consume, even when infection rates are on the rise they choose to let people go out and shop The government is fully willing to sacrifice your life for their economy. You are cattle to them, they consider your life worthless if you don't serve them. >The people in charge just weren't smart enough and were disorganised during 2020. The actual rulers literally hiding in New Zealand bunkers certainly understand what is happening.
Pulse · 2021-01-01 23:07
>>37501 Respirators are protective equipment, masks are spread-limiting equipment. Of course the very best thing would've been to equip everyone with respirators and get a proper /cyb/ aesthetic going, but somehow no efforts were made to setup the logistic chain appropriately.
Hiro Protagonist · 2021-01-02 01:08
No one cared about loneliness before, and I'd imagine people will stop caring about it very soon after this blows over. People only care about it now because it affects them. And even then, no one cares about those who were already lonely before lockdowns started. Although, I suppose you could say this about most issues.
XERXES · 2021-01-02 01:15
Duh. By 9/11 it was (already) too late.
Haruyoshi · 2021-01-03 00:17
>>37530 Sufficient layers of surgical face masks and even paper towels can be used to create N95-equivalent protection. 3 surgical face masks gives 98.7% filtration efficiency at 0.3 microns compared to 95% of N95, and 8 layers of paper towel gives 95% filtration efficiency. The key is to make sure there are no air leaks, and that all air inhaled is actually filtered through the mask. The earloop-type surgical face mask has an air leak along the side that prevents it from filtering inhaled air, it must be sealed with tape or a strap-type mask to actually protect the wearer.
Masami Eiri · 2021-01-03 00:50
>>37533 Grow up.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2021-01-03 01:02
>>37533 *hugs*
Spike Spiegel · 2021-01-03 01:16
>>37576 >You should be as miserable as I am!
Jean Dupont · 2021-01-04 03:19
>>37319 You sound like a Big Pharma wage slave
Motoko Kusanagi · 2021-01-04 03:23
>>37343 Nah, son. Every democracy is a façade since all leaders and their ilk serve 'them'. You never had any power, but in order for you to be docile to the system, you have to be convinced that you have.
Vasya Pupkin · 2021-01-04 03:29
>>37609 >>37343 Let me add to this that you do have a lot of power. Just don't expect it to have any meaning in an egalitarian democracy.
Lady Jessica · 2021-01-04 03:53
Using PPE is absolutely essential because it is the only protection that works against labmade bioweapons produced using Gain-of-Function. Biological warfare units and BSL lab workers wear CBRN hazmat suits or HEPA powered air purifying respirators and positive-pressure suits because it gives much better protection against unknown strains than trying to use a vaccine, let alone a weaponized strain designed for resistance against all existing treatments. A N100 gas mask or HEPA filter has an effectiveness of 99.97 %, compared to 90 % at max for vaccines, which is results in a failure rate of 0.03 % versus 10 %. The failure rate for vaccines increases to 100% as the strain mutates or does not match the vaccines. Using proper PPE instead of vaccines is orders of magnitude safer.
Ender · 2021-01-04 10:50
>>37613 not gonna lie, at first glance your post looked generated
Anonymous · 2021-01-07 02:25
>>37338 They're only powerful with your and OP's help, constantly parrotting what you are told.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2021-01-12 01:28
>>37300 I wonder if there is a more updated version of this chart, it is the official data for what kind of side effects you can encounter. You can find it by searching for the reactogenicity of each vaccine.
Cypher · 2021-01-15 06:15
>>38165 These results are horrific for a Phase III trial, if they hadn't skipped animal trials, this would have already gotten dropped as a failed candidate. To think that they actually plan to inject hundreds of millions of people with this. It is incredible how people can believe Big Pharma can complete a 2 year minimum Phase III vaccine clinical trial in 3 months. It's how you can realize they were never trying to save anyone to begin with. They have already started human live challenge experiments, where they inject test subjects with the virus and observe if they contract the virus and survive. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/worlds-first-covid-human-challenge-begins-uk-prepares-infect-2500-volunteers >2,500 healthy Britons are about to participate in the world's first COVID-19 'human challenge' - letting the government infect them with SARS-CoV-2 in order to see how the virus reacts to an experimental vaccine, according to The Times. >The fist stage of the study, conducted by Imperial College, the National Health Service's Royal Free Hospital and hVIVO - experts in viral human challenge models, kicks off in January, and will track an initial group of 90 subjects aged 18-30 who will receive an experimental nasal vaccine before being infected with the disease in a "secure bio-containment suite." >When the government announced the human trial, they said "the aim will be to discover the smallest amount of virus it takes to cause a person to develop Covid-19 infection," adding "This is known as a virus characterisation study and will be backed by £33.6 million of government investment." >Volunteers will be paid approximately £4,000 (US$5350) for their 2-3 week stay at the Royal Free Hospital, where they will bravely risk the less than 1% chance of death, plus unknown potential side-effects from the experimental nasal vaccine (along with others), according to the Mail Online, which adds that participants will be expected to attend follow-up appointments for approximately a year.
Jet Black · 2021-01-15 11:31
>>38400 >tfw 5% of moderna patients ended up in the hospital from pain alone as a side effect I feel like this is actually worse than all the people I know who got actual covid. If this soykaf isn't profiteering, then idk what is.
Yuki Nagato · 2021-01-15 12:05
>>38400 That "challenge" isn't as bad as it sounds to be honest. The virus isn't going to kill healthy 20-30 year olds who are getting top shelf medical support from both hospitals and the military. Its basically 4 grand for a worse case scenario of spending a week or two on a ventilator with next to no risk of death as you won't have co-morbidities nor will you be dealing with overstrained health services.
John Doe · 2021-01-15 12:53
>>38410 I think theyre not even trying to cover up anymore. Presumably once this goes into full gear there will be another health and economic crisis as a result and as usual the big man will cover for them while the big corp gets all the money. Every day is just one step closer to the end, i dont know why i even bother reading this anymore, the outcome is always the same.
Wintermute · 2021-01-17 02:38
>>38411 By statistics, one can expect about 2-25 deaths out of 2500, and around 1250 with lifelong complications like lung scarring or brain damage. These idiots don't understand what they have volunteered for, and the sociopaths are fully willing to exploit them. This form of human experimentation was derezzed by the Geneva Convention for a very good reason. >>38412 It is meant to magnify and perpetuate the crisis. As a contagious airborne virus, SARS-CoV-2 can only kill 1-2% per wave, and can be eradicated easily with respiratory protection. Adverse reactions from repeated injections can kill much more than that. Don't be fooled by what they are doing, they are not trying to save anyone. Their plan is to kill hundreds of millions of people per year. That's all they know how to do.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2021-01-17 02:43
>>38485 >By statistics, one can expect about 2-25 deaths out of 2500, and around 1250 with lifelong complications like lung scarring or brain damage. *assuming he vaccine doesn't work
Agent Richard Gill · 2021-01-17 14:42
>>38485 The lung scarring seems to be one of those pure clickbait stories. Most of the lung issues from people who have it seriously are gone in a few months and the brain damage is only for people who are having serious issues without medical support. You are not going to get close to half of the people at the age of 20-30 having long term lung or brain damage from covid.
Trinity · 2021-01-18 00:31
>>38486 https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-miami-doctor-vaccine-death-20210107-afzysvqqjbgwnetcy5v6ec62py-story.html >Two weeks after getting a first dose of a Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, a 56-year-old doctor in South Florida died this week, possibly the nation’s first death linked to the vaccine. >Three days later, small spots began to appear on his feet and hands and he went to the emergency room at Mount Sinai >For two weeks, she said, doctors tried to raise Michael’s platelet count. “Experts from all over the country were involved in his care,” she wrote. “No matter what they did, the platelets count refused to go up.” >She wrote that Michael was “conscious and energetic” through the process. But just days before a last resort surgery, he suffered a stroke and died https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55579028 >An NHS nurse who has contracted Covid-19 three weeks after being vaccinated says she is "angry and heartbroken". >Working on the NHS frontline, she was initially relieved to be offered the chance of a vaccine and despite difficulties getting an appointment, she received her first dose of the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine last month. >The nurse, from west Wales, said she was told it would take 10 days for the vaccine to offer some protection and reduce the risk of transmission. >However three weeks after the jab, she began to feel unwell and was "shocked" when she tested positive for coronavirus. >"I developed quite severe symptoms - a really bad cough, high temperature, breathlessness and that was three weeks after having the vaccine. I was petrified for my family," she said. >Despite her best efforts, which even included boil-washing her uniform, Bethan's partner and one of her children also tested positive. https://web.archive.org/web/20201231053501/https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-vaccine-idUSKBN2940QL Vaccinated U.S. nurse contracts COVID-19, expert says Pfizer shot needed more time to work - ABC >A nurse in California tested positive for COVID-19 more than a week after receiving Pfizer Inc's vaccine, an ABC News affiliate reported bit.ly/2L8iBel on Tuesday, but a medical expert and the U.S. drug maker said the body needs more time to build up protection. >Pfizer “will review all available information on this case and all reports of any confirmed diagnosis following vaccination,” the drug maker said in a statement to Reuters. >“Based on our Phase 3 safety and efficacy study, the vaccine provides some protection against COVID-19 within about 10 days of the first dose and substantially boosted after the second dose, supporting the need for a 2-dose vaccination series”, it said. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/25/health/Covid-moderna-vaccine-allergies.html >A Boston physician said he developed a severe allergic reaction minutes after receiving Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine on Thursday, in the first week of the nationwide rollout for the company’s shots. >The case was the first of its kind reported to be linked to Moderna’s vaccine. Federal agencies are investigating at least six cases involving people who suffered anaphylaxis after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, which contains similar ingredients, during the first few weeks of its distribution in the United States. >Officials with the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had discussed the reactions involving some of the Pfizer cases, but have not determined whether an ingredient in the vaccine caused the allergic responses. A few health care workers in Britain had also experienced anaphylaxis after receiving the Pfizer vaccine earlier this month. >In an interview, Dr. Sadrzadeh said he experienced a severe reaction almost immediately after he was inoculated, feeling dizzy and with his heart racing. >In a statement, David Kibbe, a spokesman for Boston Medical Center, confirmed that Dr. Sadrzadeh had received Moderna’s vaccine on Thursday. The statement said that Dr. Sadrzadeh “felt he was developing an allergic reaction and was allowed to self-administer his personal EpiPen. He was taken to the Emergency Department, evaluated, treated, observed and discharged. He is doing well today.”
Dox · 2021-01-18 00:42
>>38503 Most cases of survivors report 70% remaining lung capacity, and an average drop of 8.5 IQ points if ventilators were used. But something as minor as permanently losing taste or smell due to Olfactory bulb damage is probably going to be deeply regretted.
Fred Nurk · 2021-01-18 00:51
>>38528 yes, you've spammed the entire board with this stuff for months now. We know. You're making the assumption that the vaccine is flat out not effective at all in >>38486. Like you do all the time.
Jim Hilger · 2021-01-18 08:08
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/in-depth/explained-what-is-known-about-the-post-vaccination-deaths-in-norway/ar-BB1cQ4NW >Twenty-nine people have died in Norway after being administered Pfizer's vaccine against the novel coronavirus, Norwegian authorities have said. They added six deaths on Saturday to the number of those previously reported dead following inoculation. The new deaths lowered the age of those thought to have been affected to 75, from 80, multiple news reports said. https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1349798503464230915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw >Norway reports 23 post-vaccine deaths (out of only 25,000 shots). After examining 13, it says “side effects from the mRNA vaccines… may have led to deaths.” pic.twitter.com/s1x668wSBI >— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) January 14, 2021 https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149 >Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine. >The agency has investigated 13 of the deaths so far and concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients. >The Paul Ehrlich Institute in Germany is also investigating 10 deaths shortly after covid-19 vaccination. https://vaccinedeaths.com/2021-01-08-portuguese-nurse-dies-after-receiving-coronavirus-vaccine.html >A 41-year-old pediatric nurse from Portugal dropped dead not long after being injected with the first dose of Pfizer’s Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine. >Reportedly in “perfect health” prior to getting jabbed, Sonia Azevedo, a mother who worked as a surgical assistant at the Instituto Portugues de Oncologia cancer hospital in Porto, was one of 538 healthcare workers at her facility who received the first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech China virus jab on Dec. 30. >The day after receiving her shot, New Year’s Eve, Azevedo had dinner with her family. The following morning, Azevedo was found dead in her bed, which was a total shock to everyone who knew her and the prior state of her health. https://vaccinedeaths.com/2021-01-08-health-professional-dies-after-covid-19-vaccination.html >There were earlier reports of four elderly deaths in three countries following the administration of the Pfizer vaccine. The Pfizer vaccine has been leaked. https://web.archive.org/web/20210114202845/https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/emea/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-data-leaked-hackers Here are the files: https://anonfiles.com/31yace9bpb/-rGv_zip So far I found out: > 22-50% of RNA is fragmented and will encode other proteins than intended (could make you infertile) > no data available regarding reproductive organs, if some side effects arise, then they will start testing on animals to see if the concern is plausible in a later stage > production: different colored batches are of different quality (or RNA integrity), this has to be kept secret from the public > viral genome has not been isolated by Pfizer, the entire vaccine is based on a Chinese (propably fake) computer generated template of the genome > all tests have been made against the Chinese generated genome template and not the virus itself https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/09/pfizer-covid-vaccine-nhs-extreme-allergy-sufferers-regulators-reaction >People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not receive the Covid vaccine, the medicines regulator has said, after two NHS workers experienced symptoms on Wednesday.
Vasya Pupkin · 2021-01-18 08:09
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/09/pfizer-covid-vaccine-nhs-extreme-allergy-sufferers-regulators-reaction >People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not receive the Covid vaccine, the medicines regulator has said, after two NHS workers experienced symptoms on Wednesday. >Both of the NHS staff carry adrenaline autoinjectors, suggesting they have suffered reactions in the past. These devices, of which the best-known brand is the EpiPen, administer a swift adrenaline boost to counter allergic reactions that occur when some people, for instance, eat nuts. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/16/health/alaska-allergic-reaction-coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine/index.html >Two workers at an Alaska hospital suffered allergic reactions after receiving Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine this week, and one was kept for observation for at least two nights, hospital representatives said. >The hospitalized worker's reaction was more serious but not life-threatening, doctors said: She felt flushed within the first 10 minutes of receiving the vaccine Tuesday at Bartlett Regional Hospital in Juneau and later reported symptoms including shortness of breath and elevated heart rate. >The second Bartlett health care worker was treated for less severe symptoms after being injected Wednesday, felt fine within an hour and was released, hospital officials said. https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1346336010213478400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw >1/ Through Dec. 22, with fewer than 1 million doses of the #Covid vaccine given, @cdcgov's vaccine injury reporting system received 307 reports of ER visits and 17 "life threatening" events. >Per dose, that's roughly 50 times the rate of adverse events from the flu vaccine... https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1346336612725174272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw >2/ In 2019-2020, about 175 million flu vaccine doses were given. 1220 ER visits and 73 "life threatening" events were reported. The data is on the CDC VAERS Website. >Caveats: physicians et al may be more diligent about reporting #Covid vaccine events, since the vaccine is new...
Marly Krushkhova · 2021-01-18 08:20
>>38532 Insufficient evidence to conclude that the pfizer injection works as a vaccine, real Phase III clinical trials take a minimum of 2 years, not 3 months. Post-clinical monitoring indicates injection is not effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections, as predicted by theory. Violating the scientific method and medical ethics doesn't produce results faster, it just hurts people for no reason. In this case, even trying to push vaccines instead of mass PPE usage is unethical, because only PPE can be effective against SARS-CoV-2. Vaccines do not work against bioweapons. Only PPE like hazmat suits do.
Sipho Nkosi · 2021-01-18 15:39
>>38539 Even if the virus symptoms included a literal zombification of the planet, I'm still not sure that I would wear your beta soyboy PPE I value my life in relation to the long list of liberties within it, else I want to at least have the choice on when to die
Dr. X · 2021-01-18 23:27
>>38543 Everyone should have a HAZMAT suit for emergencies, the only reason they don't is because it's too expensive.
Wintermute · 2021-01-18 23:38
>>38543 >Even if the virus symptoms included a literal zombification of the planet, I'm still not sure that I would wear your beta soyboy PPE I work with covid patients all the time, but I talked with my dad about PPE and he told me about his military training against bio agents when he was younger and he had a good point about how PPE is designed to work, you just need to use it correctly and replace t when it goes bad. Otherwise there is no point in using it. I have not gotten it yet, and I make sure my PPE is always intact and correct before working. All my coworkers who got it used to wash hands wrong, pull their mask down to shove food in their mouths, and wore loose masks because the other ones were "too tight". The cloth masks are so your mouth breather snot does not splatter on the windows you try to lick, it has nothing to do with YOUR safety. You have the right to not wear a mask, or clothes for that matter. Good luck walking around town with your cock out and expecting people to be fine with it.
Nobody important · 2021-01-18 23:48
>>38543 >I value my life in relation to the long list of liberties within it Not only that. Some macho delusions sneaked into your list, allergy to wearing PPE is one of them. You don't have to wear it all the time, like some religious fanatics do, sitting in masks in their cars with closed windows and air/farts re-circulation on. I put on my respirator only when someone gets into a 10m radius around me or in densely packed spaces like shops. Rest of the time I'm demonstrating my amazing chiseled jaw to the world and enjoy all the smells and fresh breeze on my face, with respirator hanging around my neck.
Zero Cool · 2021-01-19 00:02
>>38565 >Being such a baste patrician alphachad I hope you at least put it on and take it off correctly. For everyone else, N95 only protects you if it has a valve, for the cloth masks there is no point in wearing it if it has a valve, and if your cloth mask has any air-gaps in it where you can feel your breath coming out it really does nothing except act as a cosmetic accessory. If you fancy a DIY project you could modify a half face respirator so the exhaust valve has cloth covering to protect others, and 95% outside filters for yourself with maximum confy.
fsociety · 2021-01-19 00:12
>>38567 >I hope you at least put it on and take it off correctly. It's really easy, you can put it on/take it off only touching the top strap (even if you have sunglasses on) and it quite obviously sticks to your face, indicating proper fit. When I remove the straps - I have to shake my head like a wet dog so it unsticks. This is my respirator, I've made mounting holes in a usual mask and put it over the exhaust valve: >>37462 If you see me on the streets - say hi.
Random · 2021-01-19 00:19
>>38568 >Brother I unironically have the same rig with a bit different cloth mount on the front. I'll drop a subtle lain hint the next time I see someone with that mask. I had few of those masks left over from when I used to be a painter, and I realized that while everyone bought out the rationed surgical memes that don't even fit correctly, I was buying bulk cartridges at normal price.
Sipho Nkosi · 2021-01-19 03:41
I was never actually an Anti-Vaxxer but the fact that on average 5% of people getting these rushed have such severe pain / headaches / side-effects they actually end up going to the hospital as opposed to the like 1% of people with Covid who need to be hospitalised is crazy
Agent Richard Gill · 2021-01-19 04:01
>>38572 yeah it's pretty sus. I'd be willing to get a vaccine if it was more thoroughly tested but the more I read the more I'm sure this is just not ready at all. My parents are apparently getting vaccinated because they're "essential". Who the fuarrrk knows when that's gonna happen though. I'm young and hale so I don't see much point in getting a vaccine. For me, the small risk of death/other long-term effects is absolutely worth being able to exist in a non-miserable state.
Wintermute · 2021-01-19 04:10
>>38572 >>38573 You need to get some junkie friends to see the amount of dirt, piss and grime you can inject in your body with no drastic consequences daily for 20+ years. After seeing that, you'll have no bad psychosomatic effects from getting vaccine shots, you'll probably even immediately feel better and stronger.
Sipho Nkosi · 2021-01-19 04:34
>>38575 I mean, I got a tetanus shot a couple days ago and I didn't even feel it. I usually watch when nurses put it in too. I don't think I would get anything psychosomatic. That is a good point though... 5% of people are really gullible and dumb, as showed by the ongoing popularity of QAnon. The fact remains though that these vaccines were pushed out the door ASAP bugs and all, we're basically getting the Cyberpunk 2077 of vaccines.
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2021-01-19 09:02
>>38572 Calling this a vacc is kind of a lie. Its not the same. rna vacc is a legit custom virus - it injects its rna payload into your cells that produce the desired parts offloading production to your body. A real regular vacc produces the parts in the factory and merely injects it into your bloodstream. So its nowhere the same process. They want this because its dirt cheap to produce so profit margins are skyhigh. They failed to produce a rna vacc for over a decade. Now they merely abuse the situation to get one out with lower hurdles.
Rick Deckard · 2021-01-19 19:22
>>38577 >we're basically getting the Cyberpunk 2077 of vaccines. I don't know why this is making me laugh so hard >Calling this a vacc is kind of a lie. Its not the same. rna vacc is a legit custom virus - it injects its rna payload into your cells that produce the desired parts offloading production to your body. You're right lain, IIRC its just a modified norovirus or something, that instead of making you sick, it spams your system with code that tells it to protect you against coronachan. As a sideffect of it being an actual virus, it makes you sick. We are told that this sickness is needed to make you healthy. The side effects are perfectly normal for a person getting sick from an injected virus. Now that I think about it, I am even less inclined to get it.
Marly Krushkhova · 2021-01-19 19:26
>>38621 >it's a modified norovirus I'm pretty sure they chopped up the coronavirus RNA strand so that it just produces the spike proteins, then put *that* into a norovirus protein shell. Thus it's not self-reproducing but the norovirus shell can definitely trigger an erratic immune response, making you sick.
SHODAN · 2021-01-20 01:09
>>38573 If you care about your parents, warn them about the 50 cases where people dropped dead suddenly after being injected. >>38528 >>38536 If you analyze the pfizer trial data, including suspected SARS-CoV-2 cases, the "vaccine" is less than 20% effective. For 3 months at maximum. People are not immune after being injected, and there are already 2 cases where they still got infected.
H.R. Giger · 2021-01-20 01:43
>>38679 >If you care about your parents, warn them about the 50 cases where people dropped dead suddenly after being injected. Yeah. >People are not immune after being injected, and there are already 2 cases where they still got infected. Haven't hundreds of thousands of people already been injected? Where did you get the 20% effective number from? I'm reading https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download and it claims a 97.5% chance that true vaccine efficacy is at least 90%, after a monitoring period of >2 months. I can't find anything obviously wrong with their study design or statistical analysis for the efficacy data, my only quibble would be that they didn't explicitly say that their data was too sparse for a meaningful conclusion when it came to a lot of the sub-samples in table 8. They report more deaths from adverse reactions to the vaccine among the placebo group than among the vaccine group in table 14. The amount of such adverse reactions is what worries me, it seems very common to get something mild to moderate. Things they term "serious adverse events" are relatively rare though, which is a relief.
Neo · 2021-01-20 01:49
>>38680 >which is a relief. Why are you trying to get people to ride an emotional rollercoaster (with you, possibly)? Seems very manipulative, Lain. I would know.
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2021-01-20 02:17
>>38681 because roller coasters are fun! Whee!!
Case · 2021-01-20 02:34
>>38685 True.
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2021-01-21 00:13
>>38680 The Phase III trial design is fundamentally flawed, it should be at least 2 years, not 3 months for a vaccine trial. If you add suspected cases of over 1200 to the confirmed cases of around 100 in the trial, the effectiveness drops drastically. Also, if you read the pfizer leaks >>38536 you will find that the safety trials were skipped and the symptoms included brain hemorhagging and auto-immune swelling of organs. This is what is killing all those test subjects, now 33 in Norway, and will continue to kill more. Do not trust the who, the billionaires or megacorps like pfizer. They have complete legal immunity for any vaccine related injury through the PREP Act.
Tequila · 2021-01-21 00:18
Hacker · 2021-01-21 00:27
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/ >All attention has focused on the dramatic efficacy results: Pfizer reported 170 PCR confirmed covid-19 cases, split 8 to 162 between vaccine and placebo groups. But these numbers were dwarfed by a category of disease called “suspected covid-19”—those with symptomatic covid-19 that were not PCR confirmed. According to FDA’s report on Pfizer’s vaccine, there were “3410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1816 in the placebo group.” >With 20 times more suspected than confirmed cases, this category of disease cannot be ignored simply because there was no positive PCR test result. Indeed this makes it all the more urgent to understand. A rough estimate of vaccine efficacy against developing covid-19 symptoms, with or without a positive PCR test result, would be a relative risk reduction of 19% (see footnote)—far below the 50% effectiveness threshold for authorization set by regulators. FULL TRIAL DATA NOT PUBLICALLY AVAILABLE UNTIL 2022 >Pfizer says it is making data available “upon request, and subject to review.” This stops far short of making data publicly available, but at least leaves the door open. How open is unclear, since the study protocol says Pfizer will only start making data available 24 months after study completion. >Moderna’s data sharing statement states data “may be available upon request once the trial is complete.” This translates to sometime in mid-to-late 2022, as follow-up is planned for 2 years.
Mitnick · 2021-01-21 02:34
>>38749 >They have complete legal immunity for any vaccine related injury through the PREP Act. *in the US >>38751 This is a good article, but I think the central argument here >But why should etiology matter? If those experiencing “suspected covid-19” had essentially the same clinical course as confirmed covid-19, then “suspected plus confirmed covid-19” may be a more clinically meaningful endpoint than just confirmed covid-19. is weak. Etiology matters because the point of vaccines is to slow the overall spread of the virus, not necessarily to improve clinical outcomes. There's also a lot of vagueness in the report itself, about what "Suspected Covid-19" means. He is making a worst-case assumption, which is warranted considering how little information they're giving out.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2021-01-21 04:20
Here's what happens to you if you get the vaccine https://seed307.bitchute.com/HlyeDvlqcVJm/PalTTtBJoB8e.mp4 https://seed307.bitchute.com/HlyeDvlqcVJm/PalTTtBJoB8e.mp4
Case · 2021-01-21 04:21
https://seed177.bitchute.com/HlyeDvlqcVJm/kIeJo0ti5JDn.mp4
Joey · 2021-01-21 04:35
>>38757 https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-astrazeneca-results-vaccine-liability/astrazeneca-to-be-exempt-from-coronavirus-vaccine-liability-claims-in-most-countries-idUKKCN24V2EN Worst case scenario assumption is warranted, because it is a rushed trial of a never before tried mRNA technology that they intend to inject into hundreds of millions of test subjects before the trial data is released. If you read the pfizer leaked data in >>38536 it indicates the symptoms include organ swelling and blood clots and autoimmune reactions.
Joe Bloggs · 2021-01-21 04:37
>>37300 Stuff like this is nothing new. I wasn't allowed to go to school one day back in the 00s because my parents somehow forgot my measles vaccine. Sucks.
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2021-01-21 09:12
>>38757 There is a big difference with things like that imo. Confirmed effective vaccines that have been weighed to prevent dangerous outbreaks are a lot different than rushed experimental vaccines that may or may not even do anything. Many people have decided not to vaccinate against MMR (Measles-Mumps-Rubela) because the diseases were generally unheard of, and people were getting the actual diseases and spreading them because nobody thought that the vaccine was needed. Also private schools do not have the same requirements as public schools, and the institutionalized nature of public schools is based on the idea that to participate in a publicly funded institution, you need to follow the rules of that institution. If someone wanted to antivaxx their kids with some really fuarrrked disease I would tell them to go find a private school. Covid on the other hand is so untested that it makes no sense to have it as a prerequisite for attendance.
Jet Black · 2021-01-21 13:00
>>38764 >>38765 My fake-alarm is going off with this one, sorry.
Just another Random Lainon · 2021-01-21 13:22
People shouldn't need half a brain cell to conclude, for all the uncertainty out there, that it might be for the best to just wait 3 years until seriously considering the new vaccines. Here's to hoping that gobvernments are not going to force their mispurchases on their people.
Vasya Pupkin · 2021-01-22 01:48
55 NEW DEATHS IN THE US FOLLOWING PFIZER AND MODERNA INJECTIONS https://www.theepochtimes.com/55-people-died-in-us-after-receiving-covid-19-vaccines-reporting-system_3659152.html >Fifty-five people in the United States have died after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, according to reports submitted to a federal system. >Deaths have occurred among people receiving both the Moderna and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, according to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a federal database. The system is passive, meaning reports aren’t automatically collected and must be filed. VAERS reports can be filed by anyone, including health care providers, patients, or family members. >One man, a 66-year-old senior home resident in Colorado, was sleepy and stayed in bed the day after getting Moderna’s vaccine. Early the next morning, he “was observed in bed lying still, pale, eyes half open and foam coming from mouth and unresponsive,” the VAERS report states. “He was not breathing and with no pulse.” >In another case, a 93-year-old South Dakota man was injected with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine on Jan. 4 around 11 a.m. About two hours later, he said he was tired and couldn’t continue with the physical therapy he was doing. He was taken back to his room, where he said his legs felt heavy. Soon after, he stopped breathing. A nurse declared a do-not-resuscitate order. >“Pfizer and BioNTech are aware of the death of a health care professional 16 days after receiving a first dose of BNT162b2,” Pfizer said in a statement. “It is a highly unusual clinical case of severe thrombocytopenia, a condition that decreases the body’s ability to clot blood and stop internal bleeding.” >In addition to the deaths, people have reported 96 life-threatening events following COVID-19 vaccinations, as well as 24 permanent disabilities, 225 hospitalizations, and 1,388 emergency room visits.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2021-01-22 01:50
>>38780 Another case of seizures following pfizer injection https://seed305.bitchute.com/qCWKvmDM7wMh/aHVaJnlwYzcE.mp4 It's par for the course for most vaccines. https://vaccinesafety.edu/vs-seizure.htm >The MMRV combination vaccine (ProQuad®) has a higher risk of febrile convulsions than simultaneous yet separate administration of MMR and varicella vaccine (Varivax®) [16-21]. Febrile seizures occurred at a rate of 26.4 per 1000 person-years after MMR and 84.6 per 1,000 person-years after MMRV in the 7-10 days after vaccination https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/165/6/704/63700 >Among children who had received MCC vaccine at the same time as MMR vaccine, the relative incidence of having an admission for convulsion in the 6- to 11-day period after vaccination was higher (RI = 7.74, 95 percent CI: 3.82, 15.71) than that for children not receiving the vaccines at the same time (RI = 3.81, 95 percent CI: 2.87, 5.05). https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/27-year-old-mother-suffers-seizures-is-hospitalized-after-taking-covid-vaccine >HAMILTON, Ontario, January 13, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — A 27-year-old personal support worker suffered a severe allergic reaction including fainting, seizures, and hospitalization, when she received the abortion-tainted Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. >Deborah Tilli, a mother of two girls, had looked forward to receiving the vaccination. She said, “I wasn’t scared, I was excited. I was like, ‘I’m going to be one of the first health-care workers in the city to get the vaccine,’” CBC reports. >Following the shot she expected to only have to wait for the normal precautionary 15 minutes. Instead, she began to feel light-headed and developed an abrupt scratch in her throat. >Though initially dismissing it as nervousness, the symptoms persisted. She spoke to the paramedic about what was happening, and was given a Benadryl shot, which seemed to work for several minutes, but “the symptoms returned and worsened.” >When she woke up in the hospital, Tilli was told that she had suffered seizures and needed CPR, yet CBC confirmed she was transported “in stable condition.”
Batou · 2021-01-22 01:56
>>38809 I looked into "the Epoch Times" and it appears to be biased media. Once clicking upon the link, I was brought to a JPG of the top half of the article, while it demanded that I "log in". Would you happen to have sources that are not going to be dismissed by the common leftist/liberal, as well as a website that does not require a login? I hope this does not appear that I am asking too much of you. Although, if it does, your reaction may likely vilify your claims. So, tread careful, I'm being tenatively open minded.
Zhora · 2021-01-22 02:19
>>38811 https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/55-americans-have-died-following-covid-vaccination-norway-deaths-rise-29 https://www.theepochtimes.com/55-people-died-in-us-after-receiving-covid-19-vaccines-reporting-system_3659152.html 55 People Have Died in US After Receiving COVID-19 Vaccines: Reporting System By Zachary Stieber January 16, 2021 Updated: January 17, 2021 biggersmaller Print Fifty-five people in the United States have died after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, according to reports submitted to a federal system. Deaths have occurred among people receiving both the Moderna and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, according to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a federal database. The system is passive, meaning reports aren’t automatically collected and must be filed. VAERS reports can be filed by anyone, including health care providers, patients, or family members. VAERS reports “often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors,” according to the reporting system’s website. Still, reports on VAERS represent “only a small fraction of actual adverse events,” the site states, although underreporting is believed to be less common for serious events. In some cases, patients died within days of being vaccinated. One man, a 66-year-old senior home resident in Colorado, was sleepy and stayed in bed the day after getting Moderna’s vaccine. Early the next morning, he “was observed in bed lying still, pale, eyes half open and foam coming from mouth and unresponsive,” the VAERS report states. “He was not breathing and with no pulse.” In another case, a 93-year-old South Dakota man was injected with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine on Jan. 4 around 11 a.m. About two hours later, he said he was tired and couldn’t continue with the physical therapy he was doing. He was taken back to his room, where he said his legs felt heavy. Soon after, he stopped breathing. A nurse declared a do-not-resuscitate order. While Moderna and Pfizer didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment, Abigail Capobianco, a spokeswoman for the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), told The Epoch Times via email, “Any reports of death following the administration of vaccines are promptly and rigorously investigated jointly by FDA” and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Officials at the agencies work with health care providers to obtain medical histories and clinical follow-up information and conduct a clinical case review, she said, adding, “It is important to note that it is generally not possible to find out from VAERS data if a vaccine caused an adverse event.” Health officials on the VAERS website caution that a report to the system doesn’t prove a vaccine caused the adverse event; proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is not required in order for the system to accept the report. vaccine bottle vaccine bottle A COVID-19 vaccine vial in New York City on Jan. 4, 2021. (Shannon Stapleton/Pool/AFP via Getty Images) In addition to the deaths, people have reported 96 life-threatening events following COVID-19 vaccinations, as well as 24 permanent disabilities, 225 hospitalizations, and 1,388 emergency room visits. Neither the CDC nor the FDA has a central database of reported adverse events. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said on Jan. 6 that severe allergic reactions to COVID-19 vaccines were happening at a rate of 11.1 per million vaccinations, compared to the rate of 1.3 per million flu shots. As of Jan. 15, 10.5 million Americans have received a COVID-19 vaccine. Federal health officials have said that adverse events are being investigated but that the vaccines are still safe. “These are safe and effective vaccines. We have good data to show that,” Messonnier said. One death following a vaccination attracted attention earlier this week. Gregory Michael, a 56-year-old medical worker at Mount Sinai Medical Center in Miami, was injected on Dec. 18, 2020. Sixteen days later, he died. Michael’s wife Heidi Neckelmann said on Facebook that her husband was “very healthy” before being vaccinated. She said he was admitted to an intensive care unit with a diagnosis of acute idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, a blood disorder, allegedly caused by a reaction to the vaccine. He eventually died. “He was a pro-vaccine advocate, that is why he got it himself,” Neckelmann wrote. “I believe that people should be aware that side effects can happen, that it is not good for everyone, and in this case destroyed a beautiful life, a perfect family, and has affected so many people in the community. Do not let his death be in vain, please save more lives by making this information news.” Pfizer told news outlets in a statement that no evidence currently shows a link between that death and its vaccine. “Pfizer and BioNTech are aware of the death of a health care professional 16 days after receiving a first dose of BNT162b2,” Pfizer said in a statement. “It is a highly unusual clinical case of severe thrombocytopenia, a condition that decreases the body’s ability to clot blood and stop internal bleeding.” “We are actively investigating this case, but we don’t believe at this time that there is any direct connection to the vaccine,” the company said. “There have been no related safety signals identified in our clinical trials, the post-marketing experience thus far, or with the mRNA vaccine platform. To date, millions of people have been vaccinated and we are closely monitoring all adverse events in individuals receiving our vaccine. It is important to note that serious adverse events, including deaths that are unrelated to the vaccine, are unfortunately likely to occur at a similar rate as they would in the general population.” A Pfizer spokesperson told The Epoch Times via email earlier this month that the company “closely monitor[s] all reports following vaccination.” Moderna hasn’t responded to requests for comment on its involvement in monitoring serious adverse events in people who get its vaccine. The updated VAERS data came after Norway changed its COVID-19 vaccination guide to direct officials not to give “very frail” people the vaccines, citing 13 deaths among people who were vaccinated. Follow Zachary on Twitter: @zackstieber
Switch · 2021-01-22 02:19
>>38811 You can verify the article by checking the VAERS database yourself. Here are the first 3 case reports for COVID19 vaccine on VAERS out of 6,758 VAERS ID: 902440 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 35.0 Sex: Female Location: Arizona Vaccinated:2020-12-15 Onset:2020-12-15 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-15 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EH 9899 / 1 LA / SYR Administered by: Private Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Headache SMQs: Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? No Permanent Disability? No Recovered? Yes Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Current Illness: Preexisting Conditions: Allergies: Diagnostic Lab Data: none CDC Split Type: Write-up: C/O Headache VAERS ID: 902446 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 55.0 Sex: Female Location: West Virginia Vaccinated:2020-12-15 Onset:2020-12-15 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-15 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EH9899 / 1 RA / IM Administered by: Other Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Erythema, Feeling hot, Flushing SMQs:, Anaphylactic reaction (broad), Hypersensitivity (broad), Drug reaction with eosinophilia and systemic symptoms syndrome (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? No Permanent Disability? No Recovered? Yes Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Novasc, Hydrochlorothiazide, synthroid, lisinopril, singulair, MVI, olopatadine drops, prilosec, inderal, crestor, toviaz, ultram Current Illness: none Preexisting Conditions: Hypertension, sleep apnea, hypothyroidism Allergies: Contrast Dye IV contrast, shellfish, strawberry Diagnostic Lab Data: She took Benadryl 50 mg po. No medical tests done. After benadryl, was administered by herself, flushing went away and she felt better. CDC Split Type: Write-up: felt warm, hot and face and ears were red and flushed. VAERS ID: 902464 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 42.0 Sex: Male Location: Louisiana Vaccinated:2020-12-15 Onset:2020-12-15 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-15 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EH9899 / UNK LA / IM Administered by: Private Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Dizziness, Electrocardiogram normal, Hyperhidrosis, Laboratory test normal, Presyncope SMQs:, Neuroleptic malignant syndrome (broad), Anticholinergic syndrome (broad), Vestibular disorders (broad), Hypotonic-hyporesponsive episode (broad), Hypoglycaemia (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? No Permanent Disability? No Recovered? Yes Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? Yes Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: none Current Illness: none Preexisting Conditions: none Allergies: none Diagnostic Lab Data: Basic Chemistry, EKG, and vitals were all normal on 12/15/2020. CDC Split Type: Write-up: within 15 minutes progressive light-headedness leading to near-syncope and diaphoresis. After 20 minutes symptoms subsided.
Frank Garza · 2021-01-22 02:20
>>38811 You can verify the article by checking the VAERS database yourself. https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php Here are the first 3 case reports for COVID19 vaccine on VAERS out of 6,758 VAERS ID: 902440 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 35.0 Sex: Female Location: Arizona Vaccinated:2020-12-15 Onset:2020-12-15 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-15 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EH 9899 / 1 LA / SYR Administered by: Private Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Headache SMQs: Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? No Permanent Disability? No Recovered? Yes Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Current Illness: Preexisting Conditions: Allergies: Diagnostic Lab Data: none CDC Split Type: Write-up: C/O Headache VAERS ID: 902446 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 55.0 Sex: Female Location: West Virginia Vaccinated:2020-12-15 Onset:2020-12-15 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-15 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EH9899 / 1 RA / IM Administered by: Other Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Erythema, Feeling hot, Flushing SMQs:, Anaphylactic reaction (broad), Hypersensitivity (broad), Drug reaction with eosinophilia and systemic symptoms syndrome (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? No Permanent Disability? No Recovered? Yes Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Novasc, Hydrochlorothiazide, synthroid, lisinopril, singulair, MVI, olopatadine drops, prilosec, inderal, crestor, toviaz, ultram Current Illness: none Preexisting Conditions: Hypertension, sleep apnea, hypothyroidism Allergies: Contrast Dye IV contrast, shellfish, strawberry Diagnostic Lab Data: She took Benadryl 50 mg po. No medical tests done. After benadryl, was administered by herself, flushing went away and she felt better. CDC Split Type: Write-up: felt warm, hot and face and ears were red and flushed. VAERS ID: 902464 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 42.0 Sex: Male Location: Louisiana Vaccinated:2020-12-15 Onset:2020-12-15 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-15 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EH9899 / UNK LA / IM Administered by: Private Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Dizziness, Electrocardiogram normal, Hyperhidrosis, Laboratory test normal, Presyncope SMQs:, Neuroleptic malignant syndrome (broad), Anticholinergic syndrome (broad), Vestibular disorders (broad), Hypotonic-hyporesponsive episode (broad), Hypoglycaemia (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? No Permanent Disability? No Recovered? Yes Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? Yes Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: none Current Illness: none Preexisting Conditions: none Allergies: none Diagnostic Lab Data: Basic Chemistry, EKG, and vitals were all normal on 12/15/2020. CDC Split Type: Write-up: within 15 minutes progressive light-headedness leading to near-syncope and diaphoresis. After 20 minutes symptoms subsided.
Wintermute · 2021-01-22 02:24
From the 1/7/2021 release of VAERS data: Found 66 cases where Vaccine targets COVID-19 (COVID19) and Patient Died VAERS ID: 909095 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 66.0 Sex: Male Location: Colorado Vaccinated:2020-12-23 Onset:2020-12-25 Days after vaccination:2 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-25 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (MODERNA)) / MODERNA 011J20A / 1 RA / IM Administered by: Senior Living Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Foaming at mouth, Pain in extremity, Pallor, Pulse absent, Respiratory arrest, Somnolence, Unresponsive to stimuli SMQs:, Anaphylactic reaction (broad), Hyperglycaemia/new onset diabetes mellitus (broad), Neuroleptic malignant syndrome (broad), Anticholinergic syndrome (broad), Shock-associated circulatory or cardiac conditions (excl torsade de pointes) (narrow), Dementia (broad), Convulsions (broad), Oropharyngeal conditions (excl neoplasms, infections and allergies) (narrow), Acute central respiratory depression (narrow), Guillain-Barre syndrome (broad), Noninfectious encephalitis (broad), Noninfectious encephalopathy/delirium (broad), Noninfectious meningitis (broad), Hypotonic-hyporesponsive episode (broad), Generalised convulsive seizures following immunisation (broad), Hypersensitivity (broad), Respiratory failure (narrow), Tendinopathies and ligament disorders (broad), Hypoglycaemia (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2020-12-25 Days after onset: 0 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Tamsulosin 0.4mg, Lactobacillus tablet, Nephro-vite tablet 0.8mg, Allopurinol 100mg, ferrous gluconate 324mg, melatonin 6mg, lisinopril 2.5mg, colace 100mg, metamucil powder, aspirin 81mg, amidoarone 200mg, hydrooxyzine 25mg, cholestyramine Current Illness: End stage renal disease with dependence on renal dialysis, COPD, cirrhosis of the liver, hypokalemia, gout, heart failure, hyperlipidemia, atrial fibrillation. Preexisting Conditions: Refused dialysis frequently resulting in episodes of hypokalemia and hospitalization, resident dependent on supplemental oxygen. The resident refused to go to dialysis on 12/23/2020 and said he was feeling fine. Allergies: alprazolam, Lorazepam Diagnostic Lab Data: None CDC Split Type: Write-up: on 12/24/2020 the resident was sleepy and stayed in bed most of the shift. He stated he was doing okay but requested pain medication for his legs at 250PM. At 255AM on 12/25/2020 the resident was observed in bed lying still, pale, eyes half open and foam coming from mouth and unresponsive. He was not breathing and with no pulse
Gyula Kovacs · 2021-01-22 02:25
VAERS ID: 910363 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 84.0 Sex: Male Location: California Vaccinated:2020-12-23 Onset:2020-12-26 Days after vaccination:3 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-28 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (MODERNA)) / MODERNA LOT 039K20A / 1 RA / IM Administered by: Senior Living Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Death, Hypophagia, Hypotension, Somnolence SMQs:, Anaphylactic reaction (broad), Neuroleptic malignant syndrome (broad), Anticholinergic syndrome (broad), Dementia (broad), Noninfectious encephalitis (broad), Noninfectious encephalopathy/delirium (broad), Noninfectious meningitis (broad), Hypoglycaemia (broad), Dehydration (broad), Hypokalaemia (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2020-12-28 Days after onset: 2 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: risperidone daily doxazosin Current Illness: dementia declining oral intake Preexisting Conditions: history of aspiration pneumonia BPH Allergies: none Diagnostic Lab Data: none CDC Split Type: Write-up: Patient had mild hypotension, decreased oral intake, somnolence starting 3 days after vaccination and death 5 days after administration. He did have advanced dementia and was hospice eligible based on history of aspiration pneumonia.
Yuki Nagato · 2021-01-22 02:27
VAERS ID: 913143 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 84.0 Sex: Female Location: Texas Vaccinated:2020-12-29 Onset:2020-12-29 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-29 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EL0140 / 1 LA / IM Administered by: Senior Living Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Death SMQs: Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2020-12-29 Days after onset: 0 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Gabapentin 100mg, Memantine 10mg Current Illness: Preexisting Conditions: dementia, aphasia, type 2 DM, iron deficiency, asthenia, osteoporosis, polyneuropathy, anxiety, MDD Allergies: codeine, phenobarbital, penicillin Diagnostic Lab Data: CDC Split Type: Write-up: Vaccine administered with no immediate adverse reaction at 11:29am. Vaccine screening questions were completed and resident was not feeling sick and temperature was 98F. At approximately 1:30pm the resident passed away.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2021-01-22 03:26
I got covid. My symptoms in chronological order: Strong headache accompanied by chills. (1 day) Sore throat and allergy-like runny nose(2 or 3 days) Cough (2 or 3 days) Possible fatigue, though that could be a symptom of not being able to go outside for a week straight.
Emmanuel · 2021-01-24 04:16
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php >From the 1/15/2021 release of VAERS data: >Found 181 cases where Vaccine targets COVID-19 (COVID19) and Patient Died 181 deaths correlated with pfizer or moderna injection reported on VAERS in the US as of 1/15/2021, up from 66 on 1/7/2021. Test subjects seem to die within 3 days of injection on average. https://humansarefree.com/2021/01/home-run-king-hank-aaron-dies-of-undisclosed-cause-18-days-after-receiving-moderna-vaccine.html >Home Run King Hank Aaron Dies of ‘Undisclosed Cause’ 18 Days After Receiving Moderna Vaccine >According to the New York Times, the Atlanta Braves confirmed the 86-year-old Hall of Famer’s death today, but did not provide further details.
Nanashi No Gombe · 2021-01-24 23:11
>>38884 >humansarefree.com >EXPERTS: Three hostile alien species on earth You need more tinfoil
Batou · 2021-01-24 23:54
>>38893 That article was reposted from https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/hank-aaron-dies-days-after-receiving-moderna-vaccine/ Other sources confirm the information. https://www.infowars.com/posts/mlb-legend-hank-aaron-dies-weeks-after-receiving-covid-vaccine/ https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/us/hank-aaron-dies-trnd/index.html
Switch · 2021-01-25 00:03
>>38895 >infowars >childrenshealthdefense >Died after receiving vaccine >Correlation= causality Interesting that the only sites that see anything whatsoever odd in an 87 year old man dying in his sleep are the nutjob conspiratard sites I got the vaccine two months ago and one month and two weeks ago I slipped and fractured my wrist DID THE COVID 19 VACCINE BREAK THIS MAN'S WRIST?
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2021-01-25 03:34
wonder when they'll switch from covid vaccines to something else, like the did from 5G to covid vaccines. Maybe we'll finally get a true flat earth wage slave?
Armitage · 2021-01-27 00:45
>>38896 https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19&VAXTYPES=COVID-19&DIED=Yes Check the VAERS reports of 181 deaths in the uS within 3 days of pfizer or moderna. It's rather obvious what is happening, but you can believe whatever you want for a few more months. Most recent 2 cases VAERS ID: 939334 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: Sex: Male Location: Foreign Vaccinated:2020-12-30 Onset:2021-01-02 Days after vaccination:3 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2021-01-13 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EJ1688 / UNK - / - Administered by: Other Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Death, Dyspnoea exertional, SARS-CoV-2 test negative SMQs:, Pulmonary hypertension (broad), COVID-19 (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2021-01-02 Days after onset: 0 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Current Illness: Preexisting Conditions: Medical History/Concurrent Conditions: Basal cell carcinoma; Bowen''s disease; Chronic kidney disease; Essential hypertension Allergies: Diagnostic Lab Data: Test Name: COVID-19 virus test; Result Unstructured Data: Test Result:No - Negative COVID-19 test CDC Split Type: GBPFIZER INC2021012521 Write-up: breathless on exertion; This is a spontaneous report received from a contactable other health professional received from the United Kingdom''s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (UK-MHRA). The regulatory authority report number is GB-MHRA-ADR 24561910, other case identifier number: GB-MHRA-WEBCOVID-20210106094618. An 80-years-old male patient received bnt162b2 (PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE, Batch/lot no: EJ1688), via an unspecified route of administration on 30Dec2020 single dose for covid-19 immunisation. Medical history included Bowen''s disease, basal cell carcinoma, chronic kidney disease and essential hypertension, all unknown if ongoing. Concomitant medication included alfacalcidol (unknown manufacturer), amlodipine (unknown manufacturer), atorvastatin (unknown manufacturer), clopidogrel (unknown manufacturer), prazosin (unknown manufacturer), sodium bicarbonate (unknown manufacturer), folic acid (unknown manufacturer), furosemide (unknown manufacturer). The patient experienced breathless on exertion on 02Jan2021. The patient died on 02Jan2021 due to the event. The patient underwent lab tests and procedures which included sars-cov-2 test: no - negative covid-19 test on unknown date. It was not reported if an autopsy was performed. No follow-up attempts possible. No further information expected.; Reported Cause(s) of Death: Dyspnoea exertional VAERS ID: 939332 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: Sex: Female Location: Foreign Vaccinated:2020-12-30 Onset:2021-01-01 Days after vaccination:2 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2021-01-13 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EJ1688 / UNK - / - Administered by: Other Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Death, Malaise, Vomiting SMQs:, Acute pancreatitis (broad), Gastrointestinal nonspecific symptoms and therapeutic procedures (narrow) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2021-01-03 Days after onset: 2 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Current Illness: Preexisting Conditions: Medical History/Concurrent Conditions: Dementia Alzheimer''s type (Vascular and Alzheimer''s mixed dementia); Fluid intake reduced (patient known to not be eating or drinking); General physical health deterioration (Patient known to be declining); Oral intake reduced (patient known to not be eating or drinking); Vascular dementia (advanced dementia) Allergies: Diagnostic Lab Data: Test Date: 20201227; Test Name: COVID-19 virus test; Test Result: Negative CDC Split Type: GBPFIZER INC2021012468 Write-up: Death; Malaise; Vomiting; This is a spontaneous report received from a contactable physician from the Regulatory Agency (RA). The Regulatory Authority report number is GB-MHRA-WEBCOVID-20210105172532, Safety Report Unique Identifier GB-MHRA-ADR 24558660. An 81-year-old female patient received bnt162b2 (BNT162B2) (lot# EJ1688), via an unspecified route of administration, on 30Dec2020, at single dose, for COVID-19 immunisation. Medical history included vascular dementia (advanced dementia), dementia Alzheimer''s type (vascular and Alzheimer''s mixed dementia), oral intake reduced (patient known to not be eating or drinking), fluid intake reduced, (patient known to not be eating or drinking), general physical health deterioration (patient known to be declining); all from an unknown date and unknown if ongoing. Concomitant medications were not reported. The patient experienced death on 03Jan2021, malaise on 01Jan2021 with fatal outcome, vomiting on 01Jan2021 with fatal outcome. It was reported that 48 hours after vaccination the patient became unwell, vomited and then died on 03Jan2021. The patient underwent lab tests and procedures which included COVID-19 virus test: negative on 27Dec2020. Patient has been not tested positive for COVID-19 since having the vaccine. It was not reported if an autopsy was performed. It was not known whether vaccine caused reaction. No follow-up attempts are possible. No further information is expected.; Reported Cause(s) of Death: Malaise; Vomiting; Death
Nemissa · 2021-01-27 01:21
>>38987 >181 deaths within 3 days of vaccination So? Statistically if you vaccinate thousands of people, especially OLD people with pre-existing conditons, you know, the people being prioritised for vaccination, some of them are going to die shortly after receiving it from other causes Look at all the VAERS you're posting, look at the patient complications, look at the average ages, do you see the continual recurrence of things like T2DM, Dementia, Alzheimer's, COPD, Aspirated Pneumonia, Hypertension, DKA, Renal Failure, Various cancers, Heart disease etc.? Do you understand how severe these conditions are and how quickly people with them, especially people with multiple comorbidities can nose dive or suddenly take ill and die from them? Look at the two most recent cases you've posted as "evidence" >939334 > Basal cell carcinoma; Bowen''s disease; Chronic kidney disease; Essential hypertension >80 year old male >Concomitant medication included alfacalcidol (unknown manufacturer), amlodipine (unknown manufacturer), atorvastatin (unknown manufacturer), clopidogrel (unknown manufacturer), prazosin (unknown manufacturer), sodium bicarbonate (unknown manufacturer), folic acid (unknown manufacturer), furosemide (unknown manufacturer) >Cause of Death Dyspnoea exertional So an 80 year old man with numerous pre-existing conditions on a laundry list of medications over-exerted himself and died The second case you've posted is again, similar, 81 year old woman, vascular dementia and Alzheimer's, refusing to eat or drink, (which is extremely common in patients that are declining towards death) takes ill 01/01/21, vomiting and general malaise, rapid decline to death on 03/01/21 over period of 48 hours So an 81 year old woman with multiple types of dementia who was already refusing all intake took ill and died due to her already weakened state, how exactly is this unusual? Have you any medical training or knowledge whatsoever? Have you ever worked in a care home or a hospital? Can you point to one actually suspicious death in this list of endless soykaf you're posting?
BloodCat · 2021-02-02 07:03
329 reported deaths on VAERS after pfizer or moderna injection as of 1/22/2021, up from 181 on 12/15/2020. These fuarrrkers are literally dropping dead within hours of injection. I would speculate that each of them would still be alive today if they had not been injected. From the 1/22/2021 release of VAERS data: Found 329 cases where Vaccine targets COVID-19 (COVID19) and Patient Died VAERS ID: 962325 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 80.0 Sex: Male Location: Virginia Vaccinated:2021-01-20 Onset:2021-01-20 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2021-01-21 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EL3302 / 1 LA / IM Administered by: Military Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Anxiety, Death, Dizziness, Headache, Injection site pain, Nausea, Unresponsive to stimuli SMQs:, Acute pancreatitis (broad), Hyperglycaemia/new onset diabetes mellitus (broad), Neuroleptic malignant syndrome (broad), Anticholinergic syndrome (broad), Guillain-Barre syndrome (broad), Noninfectious encephalitis (broad), Noninfectious encephalopathy/delirium (broad), Noninfectious meningitis (broad), Extravasation events (injections, infusions and implants) (broad), Gastrointestinal nonspecific symptoms and therapeutic procedures (narrow), Vestibular disorders (broad), Hypotonic-hyporesponsive episode (broad), Hypoglycaemia (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2021-01-20 Days after onset: 0 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Current Illness: Preexisting Conditions: Allergies: Diagnostic Lab Data: CDC Split Type: Write-up: Patient''s wife called this morning stating that her husband has passed away last night. After receiving first dose of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine at around 0830, patient remained in the Immunizations Department for the 15-minute monitoring period. Per wife, patient''s only complaint was pain at the injection site. At 1300, wife states that patient complaint of dizziness which "dissipated after a few minutes" followed by a headache which "dissipated after a few minutes" as well. Then patient complained of nausea, no vomiting and "couldn''t relax." Per wife, from around 1400/1500, patient stayed on his recliner while still having a conversation with her--"he didn''t get up to eat." Last conversation they had was around 2000/2100. Per wife, at around 2100/2200, patient was quiet and when she checked on him, "he wasn''t responding anymore." Wife then called 911, "but they couldn''t revive him." VAERS ID: 938038 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: Sex: Female Location: Foreign Vaccinated:2021-01-04 Onset:2021-01-04 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2021-01-12 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH - / UNK - / - Administered by: Other Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Cardiopulmonary failure, Death SMQs:, Cardiac failure (narrow), Acute central respiratory depression (broad), Respiratory failure (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2021-01-04 Days after onset: 0 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Current Illness: Communication disorder NOS; Frailty; Memory impairment; Mobility decreased Preexisting Conditions: Medical History/Concurrent Conditions: Vascular dementia Allergies: Diagnostic Lab Data: Test Date: 202012; Test Name: COVID-19 virus test; Result Unstructured Data: Test Result:Negative; Test Date: 202012; Test Name: COVID-19 virus test; Result Unstructured Data: Test Result:Negative; Test Date: 20201218; Test Name: COVID-19 virus test; Result Unstructured Data: Test Result:Negative CDC Split Type: GBPFIZER INC2021012517 Write-up: Acute cardio-respiratory event and died a few hours later; This is a spontaneous report received from a contactable physician by Pfizer from the Regulatory Agency. The regulatory authority report number is GB-MHRA-WEBCOVID-20210107093111. Safety Report Unique Identifier GB-MHRA-ADR 24565959. An 84-years-old female patient received BNT162B2 (PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE) at single dose, on 04Jan2021, for COVID-19 immunisation. Patient was elderly and frail and gradually declining in mobility, communication and memory over the last 12 months. Relevant medical history also included vascular dementia form an unspecified date and unknown if ongoing. Concomitant medications were unknown. Patient was not enrolled in clinical trial. COVID-19 virus test was performed twice on an unspecified date, in Dec2020 and on 18Dec2020 and the results were negative. On 04Jan2021, at 06:00 PM, the patient experienced acute cardio-respiratory event and died a few hours later. It was unknown if autopsy was done. Since the vaccination, the patient has not been tested for COVID-19. Patient did not have symptoms associated with COVID-19. The patient was kept comfortable in the nursing home in these last few hours. There was no way to know whether the vaccine was to blame at all, it was unlikely. No follow-up attempts are possible, information about lot number cannot be obtained.; Reported Cause(s) of Death: Cardio-respiratory failure VAERS ID: 940935 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: Sex: Female Location: Foreign Vaccinated:2021-01-05 Onset:2021-01-05 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2021-01-13 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH BJ1688 / UNK - / - Administered by: Other Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Death, SARS-CoV-2 test negative, Vomiting SMQs:, Acute pancreatitis (broad), Gastrointestinal nonspecific symptoms and therapeutic procedures (narrow), COVID-19 (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2021-01-07 Days after onset: 2 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Current Illness: Preexisting Conditions: Comments: Patient has not had symptoms associated with COVID-19 Patient is not enrolled in clinical trial Allergies: Diagnostic Lab Data: Test Name: COVID-19 virus test; Result Unstructured Data: Test Result:no-negative COVID-19 test CDC Split Type: GBPFIZER INC2021017066 Write-up: Death; Vomiting; This is a spontaneous report from a contactable other health professional from the Regulatory Agency. The regulatory authority report number is GB-MHRA-ADR 24573192. An elderly female patient received the bnt162b2 (PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE; Lot Number: BJ1688 and EJ1688; as reported), via an unspecified route of administration on 05Jan2021 at 12:26 at a single dose for COVID-19 immunization. The patient''s medical history and concomitant medications were not reported. The patient had not had symptoms associated with COVID-19; and was not enrolled in the clinical trial. On 05Jan2021 at 12:51, the patient experienced vomiting (non-serious); 25 minutes post vaccine (had further vomiting episodes). On 07Jan2021 at 01:00, the patient experienced death; which caused death, and was medically significant. The patient had not tested positive for COVID-19 since having the vaccine. The patient underwent lab tests and procedures which included COVID-19 virus test: no-negative COVID-19 test on an unspecified date. The clinical outcome of the event, vomiting, was unknown. The clinical outcome of the event, death, was fatal. The patient died on 07Jan2021 at 01:00 due to unknown cause of death. An autopsy was not performed. No follow-up attempts are possible. No further information is expected.; Reported Cause(s) of Death: Death
Drano · 2021-02-02 07:24
>>38990 No, statistically the chance of death in any 0-2 day period for an average 60-80 year old is extremely low, following the Poisson distribution, and even lower for the 40-50 year old cases. Correlation of death with injection can easily be proven using chi-squared test, by comparing the total deaths / total injections ratio, to total deaths in control group / control group size. You can calculate the P-values if you really want.
Void · 2021-02-02 23:32
>>37303 Now we even have corpos deciding for us. Who gets to go where, how much of a certain item you can obtain, which days you can be outside, pharmaceutical companies giving higher paying countries priority over smaller one, etc..
Yet Another Lainon · 2021-02-03 20:23
>>39212 VAERS shows 232 reported deaths for _all_ COVID19 vaccines as of 2021/02/03, completely ignoring that correlation != causation.
Just another Random Lainon · 2021-02-03 20:54
>>39265 Trial patients aren't taken from the sick. Covid deads had pre-existing health conditions in contrast. If it can be lethal for healthy it will be unusable for the sick people its supposed to protect.
Drifter · 2021-02-03 21:10
>>39266 This isn't for trials, this is for _all_ COVID vaccines administered in the US. They've dosed out about 26M so far.
Dozer · 2021-02-15 09:10
From the 2/4/2021 release of VAERS data: Found 653 cases where Vaccine targets COVID-19 (COVID19) and Patient Died Up from 329 reported deaths on VAERS after pfizer or moderna injection as of 1/22/2021 VAERS ID: 996156 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 58.0 Sex: Female Location: Minnesota Vaccinated:2021-02-01 Onset:2021-02-01 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2021-02-02 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (MODERNA)) / MODERNA - / 2 - / IM Administered by: Senior Living Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Arthralgia, Death, Impaired work ability, Injection site pain, Malaise, Pain SMQs:, Extravasation events (injections, infusions and implants) (broad), Arthritis (broad) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2021-02-02 Days after onset: 1 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Unknown Current Illness: Unknown Preexisting Conditions: Hypertension Allergies: Unknown Diagnostic Lab Data: CDC Split Type: Write-up: Client came to nursing station about 2pm to report she "was not feeling well". Nurses took vital signs, then referred her to the vaccination clinic that was onsite. She was observed by vaccination team for a period of time. She reported shoulder pain radiating into shoulder blade in arm vaccine was received. Vaccination team offered ice pack to her, observed for a period of time, and released back to work. About 10pm that evening, she sent a text to another coworker that her pain was "off the charts" and that she had pain covering her whole left side of her body. She did not come to work in the morning and did not contact work. Well being check was performed at approximately 9am on 2/2/2021 and she was found dead in her home. 911 was immediately called and authorities took over the scene. VAERS ID: 965441 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: 43.0 Sex: Female Location: Foreign Vaccinated:2021-01-13 Onset:2021-01-13 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2021-01-22 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EL0739 / UNK - / - Administered by: Other Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Death SMQs: Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2021-01-13 Days after onset: 0 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Current Illness: Preexisting Conditions: Comments: Not registered at this practice, During vaccination screening Pt was asked to confirm; Pregnancy - Not Pregnant Pre existing medical conditions - None Any Allergies - None History of anaphylaxis - None Bleeding disorders / blood thinning medication - None Patient has not had symptoms associated with COVID-19 Not had a COVID-19 test Patient is not enrolled in clinical trial Allergies: Diagnostic Lab Data: CDC Split Type: GBPFIZER INC2021033366 Write-up: Death unexplained; This is a spontaneous report received from a contactable pharmacist via regulatory authority. The regulatory authority report number is GB-MHRA-WEBCOVID-202101140831416270. Sender''s (Case) Safety Report Unique Identifier: GB-MHRA-ADR 24595177. A 43-year-old female patient received BNT162B2 (PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE) (lot number EL0739, expiry date not reported) via an unspecified route of administration on 13Jan2021 at single dose for COVID-19 vaccination. The patient had not had symptoms associated with COVID-19, not had a COVID-19 test. She was not enrolled in clinical trial. She was not pregnant. She had no pre-existing medical conditions, no allergies, no history of anaphylaxis, no bleeding disorders / blood thinning medication. The concomitant medications, if any, were not reported. The patient was not registered at the practice. The patient did not experience direct or immediate reaction at the time of the vaccine. The practice was informed that approximately 6 hours post vaccine the patient had passed away. The patient died on 13Jan2021. An autopsy was not performed. The cause of death was unknown, death unexplained. No follow-up attempts are possible. No further information is expected.; Reported Cause(s) of Death: Death unexplained VAERS ID: 940902 (history) Form: Version 2.0 Age: Sex: Unknown Location: Foreign Vaccinated:2021-01-08 Onset:2021-01-08 Days after vaccination:0 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2021-01-13 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EJ6796 / 1 - / - Administered by: Other Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Death SMQs: Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes Date died: 2021-01-08 Days after onset: 0 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations: Other Medications: Current Illness: Preexisting Conditions: Allergies: Diagnostic Lab Data: CDC Split Type: DEPFIZER INC2021016328 Write-up: Death 2 hours after vaccination in a retirement home; This is a spontaneous report from a contactable physician. A patient of unspecified age and gender received BNT162B2 (COMIRNATY; PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 mRNA VACCINE; Lot number EJ6796), via an unspecified route of administration on 08Jan2021 as first single dose for covid-19 immunization. The patient''s medical history and concomitant medications were not reported. On 08Jan2021, at 19:24, death 2 hours after vaccination in a retirement home was noted. The patient died on 08Jan2021. It was not reported if an autopsy was performed.; Sender''s Comments: The limited information provided in this report does not allow a full assessment of the case. The event "death" is assessed as related to the suspect drug per company guidance. This case will be reassessed when additional information, particularly the clinical course before death, complete medical history and concomitant medication and autopsy report, becomes available. The impact of this report on the benefit/risk profile of the Pfizer product is evaluated as part of Pfizer procedures for safety evaluation, including the review and analysis of aggregate data for adverse events. Any safety concern identified as part of this review, as well as any appropriate action in response, will be promptly notified to Regulatory Authorities, Ethics Committees and Investigators, as appropriate.; >Reported Cause(s) of Death: Death 2 hours after vaccination in a retirement home
Lady Jessica · 2021-02-15 09:15
>>39265 For comparison: https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=NONE&MAP=ON&EVENTS=ON&VAX[]=FLU(H1N1)&VAX[]=FLU3&VAX[]=FLU4&VAX[]=FLUA3&VAX[]=FLUC3&VAX[]=FLUC4&VAX[]=FLUN(H1N1)&VAX[]=FLUN3&VAX[]=FLUN4&VAX[]=FLUR3&VAX[]=FLUR4&VAX[]=FLUX&VAX[]=FLUX(H1N1)&VAX[]=H5N1&VAX[]=FLUA4&VAXTYPES=Influenza&DIED=Yes Found 1,925 cases where Vaccine targets Influenza (FLU(H1N1) or FLU3 or FLU4 or FLUA3 or FLUC3 or FLUC4 or FLUN(H1N1) or FLUN3 or FLUN4 or FLUR3 or FLUR4 or FLUX or FLUX(H1N1) or H5N1 or FLUA4) and Patient Died The flu vaccine has killed 1925 people in the US since 1990. pfizer and moderna injections have already killed at least 653 in the US in two months. That is a rate of 1925 / (30 years * 12 months per year) = 5.3 deaths per month for flu vaccine, versus 653 / (2 months) = 326.5 deaths per month for pfizer + moderna injection.
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2021-02-16 13:10
>>39775 imagine doing all this research and not noticing the common trend that these people are all old as fuarrrk. if you're in a retirement home you should have died 20 years ago, and I don't mean that in a snarky way. it's an undignified and soykafty way to go. legalize feelium.
Hagbard Celine · 2021-02-16 14:08
>>39835 Same for covid dead. Only people with pre-conditions died. So you're just comparing risk of weak people dying catching covid vs straight dead from vacc overloading their system.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2021-02-16 22:44
>>39775 Again, your numbers are wrong. 536 deaths according to VAERS data on CDC Wonder. What's your source? What's with the gish gallop info dumping?
The Oracle · 2021-02-17 00:19
the rich aren't happy about lockdowns either. if you trace back the origins of the antilockdown protests they were all funded by rich people
Lady Jessica · 2021-02-17 00:24
what is so difficult about the idea that you can stop a deadly virus by preventing people from coming into contact with one another? we tried to see if people would do it organically and they didn't and thus governments started doing actual enforcement. It really doesn't go very much deeper than that. liberals and conservatives aren't interested in anything beyond squiggly line going up and higher infection rates would make the squiggly line go red. This goes for everything including bush-era antiterrorism spying laws - all they cared about was oil and preventing 9/11 style attacks that would make the squiggly wallstreet line go down
Despair · 2021-02-17 00:35
>>39858 Covid has a survival rate around 90%~ it's not deadly. The government around the world had a chance to stop the virus, and guess what making people stuck inside did not help the cases at all. It only got worst, so already we know the whole thing is a sham I have no reason to trust the government when it comes to saving lifes, they are not doctors
Anonymous · 2021-02-17 01:06
>>39857 they just ignore the lockdowns. Most rich people live in a fantasy world where nothing really matters. They still hold parties and stuff, although you might need to get one of those rapid tests beforehand. Something something the inner party must believe in the ideology most fervently while also living in a fashion entirely opposite to its ideals. >>39858 > all they cared about was oil and preventing 9/11 style attacks that would make the squiggly wallstreet line go down hey don't forget how great wars are for making the squiggly military-industrial line go up. >>39860 its not (extremely) deadly but it's still very serious. Marginal deaths go up too when hospitals are overloaded... burst appendix? Well soykaf we've got this sea of covid patients filling up the hospital but I'm sure we can scrounge up some morphine and stuff! >and guess what making people stuck inside did not help the cases at all. It only got worst it probably helped. The R is still pretty low now compared to this time last year. >I have no reason to trust the government when it comes to saving lifes, they are not doctors Do you trust doctors then?
Unidentified · 2021-02-17 01:43
https://www.bitchute.com/video/cC4NoDLkwlm7/ >A 28 Year Old Wisconsin Mom Dies Days After Second Pfizer Shot >28 years old and just 5 days after getting her second shot she had what appeared to be a brain aneurism. This is another very sad story and what is becoming the normal in this world. https://vaccinedeaths.com/2021-01-29-nurse-aide-died-after-getting-vaccinated.html >Janet Moore, a nurse aide at Admiral’s Pointe Nursing and Rehabilitation in Huron, Ohio, died within 48 hours of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine that her employer reportedly required. Moore had no known comorbidities and was found unresponsive in her car outside her apartment complex on Dec. 31. >Her brother, Jacob Gregory, told LifeSiteNews that Moore was driving home from work that day. “[As] soon as she drove into her parking lot she passed away,” he said. >Meanwhile, Moore’s neighbors said she hadn’t been feeling well after receiving the shot at work and that she reported feeling nauseated and experienced migraines. >When asked if he knew what brand of vaccine Moore received, Gregory said he believes it was the one by Pfizer and BioNTech SE https://abc7.com/woman-dies-after-getting-vaccine-death-cal-poly-pomona-covid-vaccines-kaiser-sites/10337617/ >POMONA, Calif. (KABC) -- A 78-year-old woman died after receiving the Pfizer vaccine at Cal Poly Pomona, but her death is not believed to be related to that shot, according to officials. >The woman received the shot Friday afternoon and was being observed when she started complaining of feeling discomfort and lost consciousness, according to a statement from Dr. Michael E. Morris, physician director of Kaiser Permanente's Southern California's COVID-19 vaccination program, which runs the site. >Paramedics on scene rendered aid to the woman "but she ultimately could not be revived." https://www.ocregister.com/2021/01/26/health-care-worker-dies-after-second-dose-of-covid-vaccine-investigations-underway/ >Tim Zook, a 60-year-old X-ray technologist at South Coast Global Medical Center in Santa Ana, got his second dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Jan. 5. A few hours later he had trouble breathing and an upset stomach. He was hospitalized and died four days later. >Tim Zook was a supporter of vaccination and posted his excitement about receiving a dose where he worked at South Coast Global Medical Center. >But a few hours later, his wife says, he was complaining of abdominal pain and difficulty breathing, so he went to the emergency room. >COVID-19 tests came back negative, and the breathing continued to get worse. Eventually, he was intubated. >He was then transferred to UCI Medical Center where she says his kidneys started failing. https://detroit.cbslocal.com/video/program/1488/5305422-former-detroit-tv-anchor-dies-one-day-after-taking-covid-vaccine/ >TV Anchor Dies One Day After Taking COVID Vaccine >Karen Hudson-Samuels’ career in broadcast journalism spanned over four decades in Detroit. The Detroit media icon was found dead at her home by her husband last Tuesday, just one day after taking the COVID-19 vaccine but the official cause of her death is still unknown.
Y.T · 2021-02-17 01:44
>>39849 https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=NONE&MAP=ON&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19&VAXTYPES=COVID-19&DIED=Yes The VAERS cases with 653 deaths as of 2/4/2021 includes 51 foreign and 70 unknown location. It does not include all foreign adverse event cases, and is estimated to under-report total cases by over 99%. >Historically, fewer than fewer than 1% of adverse events have ever been reported to VAERS https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf >>39837 It is relatively easy to avoid being infected by SARS-CoV-2, it is more difficult to reject forced injections. >>39835 These fatal auto-immune disorders like Gullian-Barr Syndrome for experimental mRNA gene therapy injections that never passed animal trials are predictable. Every death lowers average life expectancy.
Random · 2021-02-17 05:12
>>37300 The information war needs new weapons that are simultaneously popular and uncensorable. There's no other way to turn the tide. Study Marshall McLuhan. The medium is the message. https://archive.org/details/pdfy-vNiFct6b-L5ucJEa
Cowboy · 2021-02-17 20:17
>>39213 What about for a 60-80 year old who had refused to eat or drink for the past 2 days with dementia?
BloodCat · 2021-02-18 05:42
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/woman-dies-hours-after-first-dose-pfizer-vaccine/ >State and federal officials are investigating the death of a 58-year-old woman in Virginia, who died hours after receiving the first dose of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine. >Drene Keyes, described as a “gifted singer and grandmother of six,” found herself unable to breathe and began vomiting within a couple hours of being vaccinated, according to media reports. She was rushed to Riverside Tappahannock Hospital, where doctors administered an EpiPen, CPR and oxygen. >Virginia Health Commissioner M. Norman Oliver told NBC News today that “preliminary findings” indicate that the cause of death was not anaphylaxis, but it will take several weeks for additional information to become available. “We can confirm that the death occurred within hours of having received the vaccine, but that is not evidence of it being related,” Oliver said. >After being vaccinated, Keyes waited the recommended 15 minutes during which she was observed by healthcare workers.
Hitomi · 2021-02-18 05:48
>>39877 Statistically, most humans can survive 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food. As a rule of thumb, you can usually go through a day and see hundreds of 60-80 year olds without finding any bodies along the streets or crashed cars from people spontaneously dropping dead. This puts an upper bound on the probability. For a full calculation, P(death within 2 days) = 2 days / 365 days per year * number of deaths in age range per year / number of people in age range.
Ein · 2021-02-18 07:15
>>39887 I'm actually killing myself this upcoming month before this hell goes any further.
Y.T · 2021-02-18 09:21
>>39887 >obese black lady >anaphylaxis color me shocked. they warned that the vaccine was being tested primarily on young whites and latinos, and now unhealthy blacks are having allergic reactions. hit me up when people from the primary testing demographic start dying.
Incognito · 2021-02-18 09:37
>>38990 >look at the patient complications, look at the average ages, do you see the continual recurrence of things like T2DM, Dementia, Alzheimer's, COPD, Aspirated Pneumonia, Hypertension, DKA, Renal Failure, Various cancers, Heart disease etc.? The same could be said about the majority of deaths related to COVID-19. The average age of death in COVID patients is 2 years above the average life expectancy in my country. >Can you point to one actually suspicious death in this list of endless soykaf you're posting? All of the deaths he posted are suspicious. Not because I wouldn't expect inducing a hypertensive 80 year old's immune system into attacking his own tissues might kill him but because it doesn't make any sense to administer a vaccine to people who fit his profile. Conventional vaccines are known to yield marginal gains at best in senior populations as is. So why (other than "for data") are we administering entirely experimental vaccines to the populations most at risk of major complications from them when there's likely very little gain to be had? We should be administering the vaccine to healthcare workers and more mobile segments of the population because those are the people spreading it and that's how influenza is managed, there is no compelling reason to pursue a wildly different strategy here. It seems like we're justifying running a population sized human experiment in the name of saving the vulnerable few. I would be (tentatively) on board with that if we weren't pursuing a policy which disproportionately harms that same vulnerable few.
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2021-02-18 10:40
I also just thought of something: nursing homes are absolute hellholes. I don't trust the overworked, underpaid glorified tard-wranglers that often times abuse the elderly to properly administer a vaccine. There's a huge potential for abuse here, including the possibility that they're letting the shots sit out and giving people bum doses(which could potentially kill them) - either from malice or neglect.
Tequila · 2021-02-18 11:53
>>39889 don't, who knows what kind of a fun a resistance would cause, we aren't the only ones are we
Terzibashjian · 2021-02-18 12:21
Some way or another, I found this following message deeply inspiring and soothing: https://invidious.tube/watch?v=cD30VJplVVc Maybe it can do the same for other lains as well.
Hououin Kyouma · 2021-02-18 12:54
>>39905 posted something about how this video made me more bummed out but the ending reversed all that. very based video.
Pris · 2021-02-19 11:19
Of course they are also using the term anti-vaxxer for people who are unsure about the vaccine. Because being skeptical of a vaccine cooked up in a time of chaos and hustle in ~6 months is the same as being skeptical about long standing vaccines like polio.
Lain Iwakura · 2021-02-19 11:37
>>40005 Because it's clear that you're buying into anti-vaxx soykaf. Nobody said that to me when I laid out how I want to take the J&J shot and have reservations about the pfizer one. There are other covid vaccines, that weren't rushed and aren't based on untested tech.
Pulse · 2021-02-19 12:13
>>40006 I am talking about what journalists and other crooks say on TV, not to me but in general.
Dox · 2021-02-19 12:16
>>40008 Got you, and I see that pattern too and it's genuinely disheartening. No criticism of masks or vaccines allowed. Lame as all fuarrrk.
Jim Hilger · 2021-02-19 16:58
>>40006 to be honest I'm more suspicious of "old-style" vaccines. Those are the kinds of things that gave us GB syndrome. Everything I understand about RNA vaccines indicates that it's a lot less likely to have horrible long-term effects like that.
Mentat · 2021-02-19 17:19
>>40035 most issues with regular vaccines come from additives that boost immune response . Obviously they will be present in both types which means the old issues will persist. Secondary rna-vacc is a custom virus that lacks reproductive code. So you still experience a viral infection with it. A regular vaccine doesnt cause any damage of that sort.
Tank · 2021-02-19 17:29
>>40036 >most issues with regular vaccines come from additives that boost immune response . Obviously they will be present in both types which means the old issues will persist. Source? I thought the link between GB and flu vaccines was unknown. >Secondary rna-vacc is a custom virus that lacks reproductive code that's probably why it's got so many unpleasant/dangerous temporary side effects. but a virus without reproductive code isn't very dangerous long-term. If they fuarrrk up neutering the whole virus, that's worse.
The Fin · 2021-02-19 17:39
>>40037 >but a virus without reproductive code isn't very dangerous long-term https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22444270/ It's as much about the response as it is the relative inertness of the material introduced.
XERXES · 2021-02-19 18:06
>>40037 Dont know if gb was solved. Additives being mostly the issue was a general statement. Heard it regularly from various med people. I believe it cause it makes sense to me - some people will already have an overactive system and a booster will then push them over the edge causing more false positives. Secondary there are also available competing products where you get same vacc different additives resulting in lower incident rate. >If they fuarrrk up neutering the whole virus, that's worse. Its save in that regard because the rna is a synthesized custom sequence. They dont use the real virus as a base or something.You can order yourself custom rna code in fact and its not expensive. The danger with custom code is you are literally coding for your body now. Runtime errors wont be fun.
J.C. Denton · 2021-02-19 18:10
This blog is a good resource for seeing everyone who has gotten very ill or died after taking the various COVID vaccines. https://thecovidblog.com/
Junichi Fujiwara · 2021-02-19 18:40
>>40045 You got any sites that don't require JS to load? Does it just list independent cases of complications/deaths? If so, it'd be more interesting to see the number of those in comparison to total COVID-19 cases, total COVID-19 deaths, total vaccinations. Also vaccinations on obese, elderly or somehow immuno-compromised people should be labelled as such. On another note, can someone give a layman explanation on how vaccinations can cause severe side effects such as the ones listed so far in the thread? Vaccines, as I understand, are gimped viruses, or simply genetic material of the virus, the purpose of which is to provide the immune system an easy target to attack and from which it can generate antibodies with which to respond in the future should it encounter the full healthy virus in the future. From my limited understanding it seems weird that vaccines could cause such immediate and severe side effects. Those seem more in line with poisoning with some chemical rather than a relatively slow gradual build up of symptoms expected from a viral infection.
Technician · 2021-02-19 18:50
>>40046 *any* immune response can cause complications in some people. Main issue is that vaccines purposely induce a very strong, short immune response. For most people and most shots it's so short that you never even get sick, but for some people a strong immune response can be deadly (like allergies). Some vaccines, like those for smallpox, cause enough of a response in most people that you start to see a few symptoms of the disease. >>40044 yeah that makes sense. >The danger with custom code is you are literally coding for your body now. Runtime errors wont be fun. yeah, RNA coding is cool af but kinda risky. The main risk is going to end up being potential prions from encoding errors. Hopefully in the future they'll have a good idea of how to make sure encoding errors are rare enough/are fail-safe so that prions don't get generated. I definitely don't trust that they know that for sure with the current batch of RNA vaccines. It's not DNA coding though, if it was I absolutely would not allow it in my body no matter how safe they said it was.
Chan Siu Ming · 2021-02-19 19:05
>>40047 could write a retrovirus and get with rna into dna.
Spike Spiegel · 2021-02-19 19:15
>>40050 retrovirii are usually made out of multiple proteins and have complicated assembly processes. It would be easier to just create a retrovirus from scratch, and easier still to genetically modify HIV or something. And I think the chances of accidentally creating a retrovirus out of a single-protein RNA strand are slim to none. If you're trying to imply that someone who is at least 10+ years ahead of the bleeding edge of biochemistry would somehow keep a conspiracy with thousands of civilians, many of whom have their reputations on the line if the vaccine fails, to distribute a retrovirus to the population... well, that's a little far-fetched. If they wanted to infect everyone with a retrovirus and have that kind of super-advanced technology, there are easier ways.
Gyula Kovacs · 2021-02-19 19:47
>>40054 Afaik they are playing around with it for gene therapy. Wasnt trying to imply you would get a retrovirus with this vacc. Just saying you could use a rna sequencer to modify dna.
Crash Override · 2021-02-19 21:11
>>40056 Yes, if you have DNA transcriptase.