Probably schizo theory about remote working and all that shit

If you haven't been living in a bunker, you should know that we've been quarantined this year. And, as we should stay at home, we have to remote work/remote school. I think most of us can agree in that remote * is like kicking dead whales down the beach. I think the government and big corpos are trying to make remote working/school a standard. So we become lazier and lazier. So lazy we don't even have to go to work. So lazy we stop working and producing the useless things no one really needs. If you think by stopping producing that means that the rich and the government will have less money, you're wrong, big corpos have all the money they have. So does the government. They want us to be lazy so we become dumber and dumber, And we stop thinking on, thinking on how a better world can be possible. Because we live in a horrible world, built only for the rich. It is possible to change it but simply, most of the people aren't thinking. Thinking of how a better world is possible. And well, by the corpos/government making us lazier, we will think even less (kinda like in Brave New World). So they have the population in "their knees" and then we can be their puppets. We also cannot start a revolution. Because we're too lazy to start it. And if we were not lazy. We would be tired (kinda like in 1984, where the State would have the worker's producing useless soykaf so they are always tired and cannot start a revolution because they simply have no energy for that). What are Lain's thoughts on this theory? Am I schizo?

"Lemmings" kinda appropriate "slang" for this subject. People who don't think because they have everything they "need"

>muh rich conspired to shut us in and have all the money Calm down, first worldler. There are still some teens going to real factory in Bangladesh to sew t-shirts for you.

sure, first-worlders with cushy office jobs that were useless to begin with will get lazy everyone else is still going to work, or just trying to get enough food and rent money to survive. People are less satisfied with the government now than they ever have been. The situation could explode any day now.

>>32885 The outrage is certainly fake. Media reported dishonest citing infection numbers rising but not that the % among tested citizen remained stable. So the only thing really increasing was the number of tested people. The who told explicit in strategy paper to focus on infection numbers only because people wouldn't care if they saw dead rates being so low. They furthermore redefined what a pandemic is and using the old definition this wouldn't even count. So assuming a different goal is the purpose whats left? What i see is market consolidation and a lot more bad laws passed in a hurry. After the war on terror you got a war on virus to exploit the peasants the same way as before. I think the most infuriating scam are the loans given. They printed themselves free money and passed it on with worse conditions to the people pretending to help them. All they did is prolong the drowning process while pretending to be helpful and it furthermore makes it possible to reduce the blowback of their actions since less people face an immediate existential threat which helps keep this going.

>>32885 >remote is like kicking dead whales down the beach My wife and I have been doing remote work for the past 7 years, and I'm going to college the same way. We have done our banking this way the whole time as well. In fact, if a lot of the grocery delivery services weren't horrible at picking up fresh fruits/vegetables, and an absurd price mark up - I would still be doing that. All this remote stuff is awesome and I love it. But I wish other people did not have it, because I don't think it is as good for everyone else as it is for me. I can and have isolated myself for years on end and I am mentally fine, but some people go a few days without seeing another person and they get "cabin fever".

>>32885 >I think the government and big corpos are trying to make remote working/school a standard. Remote work is actually not very welcomed in govermental and big corp work enviroments. They where actually doing everything that people are not allowed to work from home. If they wanted it they just would place everybody into home office, they were just forced to adapt because of the pandemic and are now seeing that it has not such a bad impact, that it maybe even could save money not having to rent an office etc.

>>32885 How do you think corporations and governments get their money? Customers and taxes. Money is not infinite, and does not and will not grow on trees. Look at Greece, this is what happens when a government is not sustained by citizens. There is no free lunch. We are very far from post scarcity and we will not get there if 99% of humanity just grinds to a halt. Your point however is applicable in a post scarcity world. I personally think your scenario in a post scarcity world IS the great filter for a civ that makes it past nuclear armageddon and environmental catastrophe.

>>32917 Greece has no control of the money / fiscal policy. The ecb does after they joined the eu and this precisely what fuarrrked them. And the ecb can and does print money infact same as the fed. The fundamental way banks work is already a process of printing money. They can lend 10x more than they have stored. Where do you think inflation comes from? It's from the amount of currency steadily growing. Fiat is essentially monopoly money everyone trusts cause its gov backed.

>I think the government and big corpos are trying to make remote working/school a standard. So we become lazier and lazier. False. Lazy people get lazier. Hard workers just find more free time. Could be the other way around but usually it's that. >They want us to be lazy so we become dumber and dumber, And we stop thinking on, thinking on how a better world can be possible. More free time means there is more time to learn, more time for self-reflection, less of the small-talk and wasteful social activities like "hanging out for the new capeshit" and spending loitering to iconic consumerist places You should rejoice the fact that there is more time for people to be their own. >Because we live in a horrible world, built only for the rich. It is possible to change it but simply, most of the people aren't thinking. It doesn't mean it's unachievable. >We also cannot start a revolution. Because we're too lazy to start it. And if we were not lazy. We would be tired (kinda like in 1984, where the State would have the worker's producing useless soykaf so they are always tired and cannot start a revolution because they simply have no energy for that). What's there to revolt? Against authority? It's useless as most overthrown government just get worse leaders after. This is why the cycle never stops. Not until the landscape of politics is itself overthrown. >What are Lain's thoughts on this theory? Am I schizo? So if the government encourages us to work it's also the same thing where they're trying to make us ___ so we become more ___ ? Your sensing is narrow. It doesn't mean nothing happens if you cannot see it. I bet you've never even met 0.01% of the world's population!

I would say the man is clever enough to not bet all on one card. If you look for a "conspiracy" to make people slow and sick you need to look no further than pharma and food industry. Same for lazyness and dumbness but leave that up to the "tech" industry. The gov certainly likes people being dependent on them, they certainly will not let that go. Yes it is a world built for and by the rich and powerful.

>I think the government and big corpos are trying to make remote working/school a standard. So we become lazier and lazier. So lazy we don't even have to go to work. So lazy we stop working and producing the useless things no one really needs. If you think by stopping producing that means that the rich and the government will have less money, you're wrong, big corpos have all the money they have. So does the government. They don't want people to be lazier, the whole point of remote work is to keep people working even outside of actual work, even when your home work, at your kids sports game, work via email and office teams, always working keep being productivity and making your boss money

The biggest benefit for stay at home work: You save all building costs. You pay for the soykafting yourself since it's your own home. Building maintainance/rent, electricity, internet, office gear. There's a soykafton of money you can save.

I think working from home has the benefit of being away from corporate places. We dont need to wear masks. I also have more time. I spend almost 2h to get to my workplace.

>>32885 Where are you from that there's still a lockdown? Anyway I don't agree at all. While having a healthy routing (ie: waking up at the same hour, dressing up, using the bus/driving the car etc) can be good psychologically instead of just waking up and turning on your pc right after I think smart working is the way to go. You eliminate commute which means no more pollution and stress from arriving to the workplace. You have the ability to do whatever you want since you are at home and don't have to deal with annoying coworkers. Overall I think it's better because it's way less stressful and impactful on the human body and mind.

>>33008 >coworkers I have some obligatory manual labor that keeps me from teleworking. If I could I would ditch all this blathering and singing in an instant.

a different outlook: I think home office was worse for me. The forced interruptions from other people at work are kinda healthy. I set up a clock timer now to get interrupted but i still manage to ignore it sometimes. >>33008 Going out on a jog instead of commuting before starting to work is a extremely good idea. Boosts your brain performance and keeps your body from falling apart if you only sit at home otherwise.

feels like that for me. Police took my work vehicle this week. Now Im depressed and in mourning for my ride which I cant afford to get back. It is like society is conspiring against us to stay home. TOO MANY RULES!!

While I partly agree with the notion of OP at the same time I can't stop thinking about the aspect of control that comes together with working from home (apart from the whole pandemic policing). So now that you work from home the corporate control has been expanded into your home. You need to be dressed certainly, have an appropriate environment and adhere to the principles of the workspace in your private home. The fact that this also deludes the separation between work time an free time also is a problem. It's is easier know to be anxious about when you will have a task to do. This results in the corporation taking place in your home. It's no longer a private space, it's a workplace with rules and constant control. Here is a link that discusses how this has been happening a lot lately: https://bendersteed.tech/posts/society-of-control-in-the-things-we-build.html

>>33030 Also isolation is bad and...if they are saving money on workspace they should raise wages. Will they do that? Will they Hell!

>>33030 I see potentially higher risk of ip theft and other crap. Since everyone is isolated at home and merely connected through the internet. voice&face can be copied easy with available tools nowadays, so there is no hurdle to pretend to be the boss and give false orders. Regular companies have also no chance to be secure against foreign state actors stealing your soykaf and giving it to their own companies. If you don't have a enviroment disconnected from the outside world you have no chance.

>>33034 yeah this whole idea isnt very company network secure.

>>32887 this is average prageru fan

>>33035 Given how few companies prevent bringing your own devices on site, it doesn't really make that much of a difference. Any pwn'd phone can be used as a pivot, or just directly on its own if the company has a straight-up BYOD policy.

>>32885 Always at home, always online, always available, always at work

>>33042 always at work was already true for many being hooked to a msg phone app and being through it always available for work.

>>33026 Yeah, that's a pretty good idea. Didn't think about it.

>>32887 Based Ironmarch poster.

>big corpos and gov have all the money they have Can't agree more