Disability

Let's have a discussion on disabilities. Do you suffer from any? How do you deal with it? I've got mild hearing loss, which will progress to deafness in a year according to my doctor. I don't know how to bear it honestly, only thing I tell myself is "at least I'm not going blind" but it doesn't help much...

>>32543 >Do you suffer from any? Does being circumcised count as a disability? It's more of an unnecessary injury and mutilation. >How do you deal with it? I'd considered myself stoic, but it wasn't until I understood how this relates to my circumcision that I realized how difficult it can be, to cope with something done, irreversible, and that I have no control over. I persevere and try not to let it ruin my days. I'm slowly beginning to stretch myself and restore what was taken from me. I have to accept I can't do anything else for myself, but I can make others aware of why it shouldn't be done and try to save future men. On the bright side, I could always be worse off. That's a constant. There's so many worse things that could've been done to me that weren't, at the least. I shouldn't need to write this, but I want to make it clear that I don't want to hijack this thread with this. Also, I think being harmed like this has made me more empathetic, because I understand how other people can feel powerless and upset due to these kinds of occurences. >I've got mild hearing loss, which will progress to deafness in a year according to my doctor. Consider wearing ear plugs or mufflers to protect what's left, although this may not help at all. I can't claim to know the details. >I don't know how to bear it honestly, only thing I tell myself is "at least I'm not going blind" but it doesn't help much... Deafness is preferable to blindness, sure. What I'd do in that position is use my hearing while I still have it, and if I were to go deaf in a year, that would be that, but if I didn't, I'd continue to value it while I still had it. I'd try to remember my favorite music, so I could still imagine it after being unable to hear it.

>Does being circumcised count as a disability? Is it debilitating? >I could always be worse off. That's a constant. It's not constant. The collection of all worse situations depends on the situation they're worse than.

>Do you suffer from any? I'm mostly deaf in my right ear and have mild tinnitus as a result of being the vocalist of a noisecore band and then subsequently not wearing earplugs to shows. >How do you deal with it? Luckily my left ear is basically untouched, so I've just had to make do with what I have. I use subtitles whenever I can when I'm watching movies etc. partially because of my deafness and partially just because I find it easier to keep focus on things being said when it's written out vs. when I'm only hearing it. I protect my ears when I go to shows now (although, for obvious reasons, that hasn't been such a common issue lately). It's pretty much just a mild pain in the ass for me.

>>32543 >Do you suffer from any? Yes, Aspbergers Syndrome. >How do you deal with it? I usually just mirror how normal people behave in their daily routines in order to make people think that I'm not autistic. I have gotten good the point where basically no one knows about it. When it comes to learning new stuff or actually interacting with people? I still suck at it and I barely have any friends, though my academic performance has been alright through the years.

>>32579 >I'd considered myself stoic >I have to accept I can't do anything else for myself >I persevere and try not to let it ruin my days ...you're talking about being circumcised? This reads like a parody in contrast to the OP's circumstances. Alright, educate me. What's the problem with it? I'm circumcised, like the majority of men in North America, and I wouldn't even know there was a different way of existing if I hadn't read about it. I could only see it as a disability if you believe being uncircumcised increases your sexual prowess 1,000%. >>32543 That's upsetting, OP. I don't know how I'd bear it either. Losing one of your five senses is terrible. I guess you could rationalize it like you said. People lose their life savings on bad investments, kill them selves, become paraplegic in an instant in a car wreck. Loss of hearing is just one bad thing of all the millions of bad things that happen to people every day. It's different when it's you, though, hm? I'm sorry. I would be in despair if it were me. Sorry, that probably doesn't make you feel any better, but I just want to say I feel you.

>>32579 There's also a chance that this is a joke and I'm an idiot for not getting it (or Poe's law is preventing me), but I don't even want to know what "I'm slowly beginning to stretch myself and restore what was taken from me" means.

I wouldn't say that I have a disability yet, but I do have hearing and mild vision deficiencies now because of a soykafty job, and I have arthritis and basically a lot of problems that people have when they are +70 years old, even though I am only 24. I usually just ignore the bodily pain of existing, but people think I am joking and it is a bit embarrassing when I have to ask "what?" over and over again when people are talking to me. I tried to do everything I could to protect my body, but there were many times when I was forced to do jobs without protective equipment because there was no equipment available.

autism spectrum disorder, post-traumatic stress from abuse, depression, some other stuff seems like the weaker your conditions make you, the more people try to fuarrrk you up

>>32691 >What's the problem with it? I'm already someone who takes issue with insanity in our society, and having part of my penis cut off is fairly high on the list of asinine soykaf. I hear more about protecting women from female genital mutilation (notice they don't use the same word to describe it), who already have federal laws protecting them, than I hear any sympathy for men. I've been laughed at for even daring to mention how it's wrong to do this to infants who can't consent to it. So on top of having a desensitized penis, I'm usually laughed at by hypocrites for framing it as a real issue. It's an evil ritual that should never have become common, but idiots will latch onto and repeat anything. I'd be similarly upset if I'd had my ears or some fingers cut off when I was born. I'll continue to believe in things which are right and good regardless of whether anyone agress with me. On the bright side, I wasn't born in modern times, where my parents could've put me on hormone blockers, and I didn't fall for the tranny nonsense and have my penis cut off. I have to remind myself how it could be worse. >>32692 I'm stretching out the skin on my penis, to get some of what I lost back over time. >>32716 >I tried to do everything I could to protect my body, but there were many times when I was forced to do jobs without protective equipment because there was no equipment available. This is something else that shouldn't ever happen in a supposedly advanced society. I'm fortunate to be in a position where I'd be able to tell if I could be injured by work and be financially able to reject it if I weren't given protective gear, but just because I'm free of an evil doesn't mean I should heap scorn on those who aren't. Unfortunately, I don't have any decent advice or thoughts but this.

>>32691, I'm mot circumsized, but I know what it's like to have something irreversible albeit small done to me without my knowledge or consent. The very fact that that was done with impunity really bothers me. And like >>32579, I manage to not let it interfere with my productivity. Irregarding whether >>32579 is facetious, it's valid. Furthermore, there are concrete differences between circumcised or uncircumcised tarses that may affect quality of life.

>I hear more about protecting women from female genital mutilation (notice they don't use the same word to describe it) They don't use the same word to describe it because it's not the same thing. Really, they should just call it genital mutilation. Prepucectomy, clitoridectomy, penectomy---all those -ectomies about genitalia---may be genital mutilation, but not necessarily. There may be legitimate medical reasons to perform those operations. >On the bright side, I wasn't born in modern times, where my parents could've put me on hormone blockers, and I didn't fall for the tranny nonsense and have my penis cut off. Dude. Stop. OK. You're too hilarious right now. My sides are aching. The reason you didn't `fall for it' is because there's nothing to fall for. Really, you did fall for something---the idea that there's something to fall for. The idea that they're trying to convert you. I mean, there are a lot of idiots whose outreach is kinda stupid. My guess as to what happened---and this is only a guess---is that you read something that got you thinking you might be transgender. If that happened, you probably are, at least in a small way, transgender---unless it was propaganda. My guess is that that's probably someone trying to let you know that you might feel better were you to have different gender characteristics, and that there are ways to change some gender characteristics. Maybe you don't feel gender-dysphoria---or maybe you're misattributing gender-dysphoria to something else. It's a possibility. Maybe you already explored it and came to the conclusion that the way your present gender characteristics are now is exactly the way you would prefer your gender characteristics. But your animosity towards transgenderness suggests otherwise. Either way is fine. I am, in a small way, transgender: I never felt `gender dysphoria,' but since hormone therapy, I feel much better---my body just feels more right; and I've been more motivated to take care of my body.

>>32718 >>32723 Do you guys realize that all sorts of "irreversible" things were done to you by your parents? They raised you. They were solely responsible for every single thing that happened to you until you were old enough to think for yourself. You're very personality, everything that makes you you, was shaped by the experiences they provided or didn't provide for you. Getting that hung up over the fact some soykafty skin was removed is just causing yourself needless suffering. Sure, maybe it's not a medically necessary procedure, maybe it was brought into modern society by fuarrrked up ancient beliefs that have no basis in science, maybe you want to advocate against it and slowly change the world, but playing the victim over it is just hurting yourself. There's so much mixed evidence; unless your surgery was totally botched I doubt it's decreased your quality of life whatsoever. >>32740 I'm very confused. You never felt gender dysphoria but you underwent hormone therapy anyway?

>>32723 We're taught that normal people have empathy, and so it was easy for me to think I must lack empathy, since I seem so different from most other people, but I'm ever more convinced most people are mindless and don't think at all about how their actions hurt others, and I'm actually the empathetic one, despite my abnormalities. I won't be swayed into thinking harming infants for no reason is okay, but when it's phrased like this, people get defensive, hence these other participants. >>32740 >>32771 I've already noted I don't want to hijack this thread. Arguing about whether having part of my penis removed for no reason is really bad or not is part of the needless suffering. I don't want to regret having posted in this thread, but I'm not going to respond anymore.

>>32740 Curious, what are your thoughts on sites like these: https://turn-me-into-a-girl.com/ I can say they absolutely disgust me, and if anything have made me more critical of trans-activism.

>>32723 >>32776 It actually goes deeper. A canadian team showcased it causes permanent brain trauma by putting the baby into a mrt during the process. It's not really surprising considering the earlier the age the more malleable the brain is and you're cutting arround the most sensitive part. Sadly after they published they got framed as anisemite since they talked against circumcision and thus were clearly against the religion so all further work was stopped from there. Can't have people stop a profitable business.

>>32771 >I'm very confused. You never felt gender dysphoria but you underwent hormone therapy anyway? Yes. Because for literally every sexual characteristic, despite not feeling anything `wrong' about it, when I thought about having the corresponding one of the other gender, it felt more right. And now I do feel much better. (Although to get insurance to pay for hormone therapy, I lied saying I felt dysphoria. Yes, that's insurance fraud. Yes, I'm very proud of myself.) >turn-me-into-a-girl.com Yeah, it kinda looks subtly manipulative. It does get some major essential points right, but I would not recommend that to anyone who isn't already sure of being transgender. I'm not sure if it's useful to anyone who's already sure of being transgender. There should be a resource that is similar, but with many changes of the details. My guess is they don't really understand it well enough themselves. Which really is like kicking dead whales down the beach, because that misunderstanding will be propagated through other minds. I'm in a privileged position of (a) having only recently started transitioning, so I remember more clearly what the process and preprocess was like, and (b) having read nothing about transgender except the principle before being certain about my transgenderness, so I'm not inured to those subtle wrongnesses; so I can start reading through the subtly wrong things without being manipulated, to correct the details. It's really intrusive, for example, for a person who doesn't consider themself to be transgender, or who is questioning their gender, to be told that they already is a certain gender, to be told they already is transgender.That's been something that's made me really wary of the whole transgender thing. I mean, I'm fine with a person doing whatever to themself, to their body, but if someone starts telling me that I am a certain way because of something that could be explained by something else, I just assume they's an idiot or crazy, and ignore them. They should instead mention that that may be indicative of this, which would pique my interest, and I would ponder it, and come to whatever conclusion on my own. One thing about transgender outreach that's bad is that there's an almost hidden assumption that you already are transgender, and that you already want to transition. That's really offputting. For one thing, if a person is already sure that they's transgender, that they should transition, then another person trying to persuade them that that is the case, is redundant. If a person is questioning their gender, and another person tries to persuade that person that they's a certain gender, that they's transgender, that they should transition, that other person is at best being psychologically manipulative. Not good! Instead, a questioning person should be presented with as much knowledge about the possibilities as possible, so they can come to an informed decision on their own. Yes, that takes longer than pushing the questioning person to the decision, but it ensures that the questioning person's decision is free, and informed. And in the case that a person isn't even questioning, the most that should be done is to set some paths that let them get to a place where they can safely---without any pressure one way or another---question their gender. Like an excellent work of art, it should present some ideas to the person, and let that person ponder them, and come to their own conclusion.

>>32543 >Do you suffer from any? I suffer a mental impairment, you would call it stupidity. This is not humbleness, my mental impairment is authentic. Sometimes thinking is so difficult and comprehension of something is also can be difficult. My ability to speak normally is also impaired, I have a speech impediment, sometimes I stutter and I do not articulate words. My short-term memory is faulty too, I easily forget small things like a 6 digit number. My brain is defective and I inherit my brain genes from my mother. I think I should hate her but I don't... .>How do you deal with it? I just live, that's how I deal with it. If I didn't deal with it, I would kill myself.

>inb4 another irrelevant politics derail

I can't say I'm significantly disabled (minor hearing issues) but there's certainly some major disorder in here. is the inability to feel the sensation of pleasure a disability?

>>32543 >Do you suffer from any Aspergers, ADHD and i guess chronic depression >How do you deal with it? I hide from society, because of the lack of social skills and the shame.Dont talk to anyone except my mom once a month, and go out only for groceries. I desperately try to learn things and better myself, but i cant concentrate, its like static in my mind. I try to climb out of the pit of despair but i inevitably fall back down. If i knew for a fact resurrection was real, i would hit the reset button.

>>35951 >i dont know what youre talking about, the bleach president is smart. youre just a wage slave for hilary because the jews, and the chinese antifa... and george soros... are conspiring with secret-muslim obama, to bring about a new world order. the only way to fight back is to deregulate the coal industry of course. what do you mean im fuarrrking stupid? american "politics" is like nails on a chalkboard

>>32797 >>I'm very confused. You never felt gender dysphoria but you underwent hormone therapy anyway? >every sexual characteristic, despite not feeling anything `wrong' about it, when I thought about having the corresponding one of the other gender, it felt more right. And now I do feel much better. Welcome to gender euphoria. Even if that wasn't dysphoria, it was gender incongruence. >Like an excellent work of art, it should present some ideas to the person, and let that person ponder them, and come to their own conclusion. Especially when the work of art, is the person themself.

> >>32716 I'm so very sorry for your loss. I've taken to wearing shooting range hearing protection whenever I'm outside. it allows you to turn up the volume of all sounds it picks up, but it doesn't amplify noise that would be harmful. hearing loud noises are practically a slap to my face. gets me angry sometimes. i was diagnosed with bipolar depression but this kind of thing makes me wonder if there's more than that.

>Do you suffer from any As a kid they diagnosed me with ADHD and the tism. But I think both were misdiagnoses since a) they were huge fads back in the 90s and 00s, and b) I was doing some reading lately, and apparently there's some pretty heavy overlap between signs of ADHD and signs of abuse in childhood. Restlessness, poor focus, etc. Having faced a good deal of abuse even before school started, I want to say that was the issue. The solution was to get those terrible people out of my life, not put me on pills and isolate me from my peers. But hey, whatever took the blame off mom, her friends, and her boyfriend of the month. >How do you deal with it? I've done some reading on how to deal with ADHD and have found some tricks to mitigating it. Even if I may not have it, they help with staying organized and calm. As for the alleged autism, nothing. Back in my teens when I still believed my diagnosis, I basically did everything possible to "hide" it. AKA look up the symptoms and do the exact opposite of everything. Autists do that stimming thing? Better not fidget at all or people will think that's what I'm doing. Autists live and breathe some special interest? Better not show interest in anything or they'll think I'm obsessed with it. Or better yet, just don't talk to anyone ever, because they'll know somehow. But all that did was make me into the most boring person imaginable.

>>32716 >it is a bit embarrassing when I have to ask "what?" over and over again when people are talking to me. Damn man I feel that I remember my first job doing just that while trying to talk to a colleague. I'd given up on this thread because of the dickheads derailing it, but I'm glad to see other lainons on topic even now

AHHHHHHH this is getting unbearable... I have nerve/spinal damage in my back from a heavy machinery accident, and it causes me to loose feeling from the waist down usually. Recently I have had my dick go completely numb, when I stand up and my dick is just very tingly like when your leg falls asleep from sitting too long. I don't really know what to do about it. The damage is permanent, but the sensation is new, I came to terms with my legs falling asleep all the time, but when my shaft goes completely numb, it really freaks me out.

>Do you suffer from any? How do you deal with it? I have mild cerebral palsy. I don't really "deal" with it since I've had it all my life and it has and will stay at the same level. (I can walk without a cane, FYI) I don't think about it much but it hurts to see people do stuff I could never do because of my disability.

>>36625 That's horrifying. How has it changed how you see life? I had a minor accident a few months ago and my spine still aches. Not nearly as bad as yours, no numbness, but my back is sore every day. It's not bad, but the idea that it might last forever terrifies me. It's an existential horror that you can't just buy a new body. When I try to rationalize it to myself my subconscious thinks "it'll only feel like this until..." but there's no time limit. It's made life feel shorter somehow; like until now the future has been a white mist that I can't see more than a few years through, but now a little bit of the mist has cleared and I can see straight ahead all the way to the end: back pain 'till I die. I know a lot of people suffer back pain and manage it, but I don't want to feel like a senior managing their back pain. It's made me less youthful and I hate it.

>>36625 >it causes me to loose feeling from the waist down usually Christ, that sounds like a nightmare. I can't imagine living like that.

>>36135 The idea that emotional abuse can cause symptoms of ADHD is very interesting to me as I was recently beginning to recognise I had ADHD. Thanks for posting this. This is something else for me to consider.

>>32543 Hearing loss is definitely a bad hand. Not being able to hear the things you used to be able to hear is really disheartening. Cochlear implants might be on the table for you if you are young enough and you want to go down that route and you can afford it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ-bw8cnSRQ (the subtitles on this on is not 1:1 with the speaker for some reason) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pV8nGA11jc (Deaf Korean hot-takes on cocolear implants...) >Do you suffer from any? Grandma-tier hearing. I have hearing aids which help but doing basic things are difficult like answering the phone. I hate having to ask someone to repeat themselves. Usually I say "Say again" but if they say it exactly the way they said it before with the same exact tone and volume and everything... I have to explain that I cant understand a word they are saying. Unless they are a piece of soykaf and need to die, they understand and are accomodating... unless the person speaking also have speech impediments in which case my ability to understand them is zero. I don't like talking to people with speech impediments, even though I know it is probably not their fault they talk like that. >How do you deal with it? I perfer to wear headphones/earbuds when I want to hear something. Phone speakers are not loud enough unless at max volume or unless I am also wearing hearing aids. When I am on a phone call, it has to be on speaker - it is too difficult to hold the phone correctly to the microphone part of the hearing aids. Some hearing aids have 'advanced technology' in them which make voices louder, but this has totally destroyed my ability to pick apart sounds and understand multiple people speaking since the 'advanced technology' focuses on the loudest person in the area. When I am at a dinner table with family and there a table far away of 'loud talkers' it is very hard to tune them out. When meeting with extended family, there are two 'loud talkers' and the hearing aids cannot decide which one is more important so it switches between them often rapidly. Often when I am in a public area and I can not hear the person literally in front of me because my stupid hearing aids decided that I need to hear the obnoxious person shouting... Or when I am on a bus and the radio is playing a song but the hearing aids decide the people talking is more important than the radio... Greatly prefer text based communication over voice. Despite it all I do not really consider my disability to be that bad. I CAN hear. I don't know what I would do if I literally couldn't hear a thing in the world anymore, besides maybe cochlear implants... Personally I am against them but maybe when I finally become deaf the reasons I am against it will melt. Maybe I could cope, but I don't think I would be able too. I am too attached to music, sounds, voices... Some jobs I cannot do unless I am okay with loosing even more of my hearing. I wore hearing protection everyday at my last job and I still lost some of my hearing.

Regarding hearing loss caused by damaged inner ear hair cells, thankfully there might be treatments to regrow them in the future. This is the first such study of its' kind, from December 4 2019: https://hms.harvard.edu/news/reversing-hearing-loss https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-13157-7 >In a new study published online December 4 in Nature Communications, scientists report a new strategy to induce cell division in the mature inner ear. With this pathway, they were able to reprogram the inner ear’s cells to proliferate and regenerate hair cell-like cells in adult mice. This proof-of-concept study, and first of its kind, may provide an approach to the regeneration of sensory hair cells and other important inner-ear cell types in people with hearing loss. >Inner ear cells of humans and other mammals lack the capacity to divide or regenerate; therefore, damage to the inner ear, in particular to the hair cells, leads to permanent hearing loss. Hair cells are the specialized inner-ear cells responsible for the transduction of sound-evoked mechanical vibrations into electrical signals that are then relayed to the brain. A number of genetic and environmental factors, including overexposure to loud sounds and aging, destroys these key cells in the hearing system. >Chen’s laboratory is working to discover additional druglike molecules to achieve cell division and hair cell regeneration in the mature inner ear and in large animal models, including pigs. >“We hope that our research can serve as a model for regeneration of other tissues with similar properties that are unable to regrow cells, such as in the retina and the central nervous system,” he added.

>>36713 It took a lot of physical therapy for me to be able to walk without a limp. The pain has gone away, but the numbness never did. The doctor told me straight up that it can't be fixed, some people the pain eventually goes away so there is some hope. I used to not be able to walk properly. I was pretty down when it happened, but I guess I have learned to live with it. I mostly thought of the story of the man who was told he would never be able to walk again and so he snuck out of his bed until he could crawl, then he crawled until he could walk, and then he decided to escape the hospital he was kept in. My worldview was soykaf, I was mad at how much I would never be able to do (this is actually common in people who suffer back injuries). Now I just stopped caring. I just push myself harder to try to do things that used to be easy. to be honest it made me less worried about living my life since its going to get worse one way or another. >You cannot change your fate. >You can, though, rise up and meet it. >>36714 Sometimes I wake up, and when I get out of bed it feels like my torso is just levitating on static. I can't feel pain for a few minutes, so if I accidentally bump my leg or toe on something really hard, it does not even hurt until after I start to get feeling back, then it all hurts at once. Also >Tripping down the stairs because I can't feel where I put my feet. >Sex is sometimes awkward when my body just hurts. I think my wife is afraid that she hurts me sometimes. My wife hates when I do things foolishly, but she understands that I don't want to just give up on living because I am in pain. She likes how confidant I am and how hard I try, even if I fail, because I won't give up... When I hurt my back I was still single and I really lost my self esteem and self worth. It took a lot to get back up on my feet from being a healthy 20 year old to almost loosing my ability to walk completely. >When I try to rationalize it to myself my subconscious thinks "it'll only feel like this until..." but there's no time limit. It's made life feel shorter somehow Basically how I felt, until one day I read the Hagakure, and really took to heart the concept of living without fear of pain or death. Life never seemed to get longer, but I have an urgency to live now, because it's all that I have. Boy, does time go by much faster. Everything I do feels like a victory over my broken self. I started to hate the people I saw who let themselves succumb to their pain, because that was who I was, and I hated that about myself. Sorry for the philosophical rambling Medical cyborg augmentations when?

>>36778 I'm glad you're pushing through this. It takes a lot of courage and self introspection to be able to overcome the hand that fate has dealt you. Taking matters into your hands and saying 'fuarrk you, this is my life and i want to live it as i wish to' to our adversities is one of the most powerful things, we as human beings can do. I wish you the best of luck, lainon.

>>36730 It's less "abuses causes ADHD" and more "abuse causes trauma which can lead to PTSD, whose symptoms overlap with ADHD". So if you're going to talk about this with someone, make sure you word it like the latter. You go around telling people (especially doctors) that abuses causes ADHD and they'd laugh you out of the room. Looking back I'm starting to think that maybe I did have a touch of autism, but that by itself couldn't have been too severe seeing as my dad's also an autist or at least shows the signs and isn't too socially awkward. I mean, he's gotten married several times, gotten laid enough to have me and two other children, and has consistently been able to make friends, so he's definitely better with people than I am.