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Need some help troubleshooting my biological fleshware. I can't seem to turn my mind off, it's always processing something, and never seems to stop. Even when I sleep my subconscious is awake, processing. I've tried meditation, limited sensory deprivation, and lucid dreaming. No matter how relaxed I get, the processing never ends. It's like my mind is constantly trying to solve an unknown problem, the thoughts whizz by so fast, and if I try to slow them down, they appear without me even noticing. I have trouble sleeping, and avoid it until I essentially collapse, and my system is constantly flooded with caffeine, spices, and L-Theanine to reduce the effects of the overusage of caffeine. Regardless of all this constant mental buzzing, I never do anything productive, and I can never stick on one topic for too long, it all becomes so tiresome. Routines and longterm projects seem impossible. Anyone else here experience this soykaf?

Your body may need nutritious supplements instead. Try to use complete supplementation for a while, you should feel much better.

Also, probably more importantly, find a sleeping aid. Quality sleep is very important. Melatonin 0.295 mg + whatever is available in your area. If the supplements are able to break the cycle of depleting behavior, the resulting behavior may imply not needing the supplements anymore. If not just keep using your aids.

>>30953 Any Idea which ones? I don't understand why supplements would cool down my biological CPU. Thanks for the reply though. ^_^ >>30954 Yeah I might be able to get some melatonin... it'd be nice to be out of this cycle. At this moment I'm just cycling between extremes, got up at 12am today, probably getting up at 6pm at the end of the week :\

Think about the way the brain evolved: constantly processing input to try and perceive potential threats. Sounds, smells, sights, and textures all contain potential information about danger. And if you are deficient in some aspect of your life, your brain will be on particularly high alert. If you are malnourished, physically unfit, ill, tired, etc. you will be more susceptible to stress and your brain won't be able to relax. Human brains evolved in an environment where damn near everything could kill them and so it leans on the side of caution. Try improving yourself: better sleep like others outlined, improve your diet, get some exercise, etc. The better prepared your body is to deal with potential threats, the more your brain will calm down. If that doesn't help, then seek the help of a psychiatrist. You may be having "reaching thoughts" and they can prescribe you medicine to help calm your brain down. The picture may seem contrived and silly, but it gives you a basic idea.

>>30957 >Any Idea which ones? I don't understand why supplements would cool down my biological CPU. Thanks for the reply though. ^_^ What you are describing isn't very specific, a lack of control over one's thoughts could indicate a psychiatric condition, which is also not specific enough to work with. It seems to always be a good idea to rule out deficiencies. It's a good idea to keep in mind that most people live with deficiencies. Psychiatry isn't as well understood as most other medical fields. Doctors will usually look for known problematic deficiencies when you get a bloodtest, however if you're depleting chemicals in the brain with the use of substances and lack of sleep, this could go unnoticed and this could result in prescriptions such as anti-psychotics and anti-depressants, which are symptomatic aids, but they don't remedy the cause of the issue. One could also be surprised of what the culture within the medical fields can be like, keeping useful knowledge exclusive seems to be usual, having a 'plate of supplements' is not unusual. "Complete" supplementation is best because, getting too much of a single nutrient is bad as well, there is synergy at play, and you won't find out what you specifically need. What are you conditions like? Work? Study? Social? NEET? Satisfied? Home? Cut the caffeine and sleep.

>>30959 >"How to tell I was born rich" Starterpack

have you ever tried a self hypnosis(dunno if this is accurate terms)? Sometimes it is all that works for me though. I lay on my back. I use all my brain power to fully imagine a comfy spot. For me it is somewhere lush with a waterfall, cool and quiet. I think the key is really using my brain to immerse myself in an imaginary experience. From there I go inward, with my eyes closed I breathe deep, and I keep breathing. You should try to take full comfortable breaths, I try and do 4 seconds breathing in 4 seconds breathing out. As you can see there is a lot of moving parts to this, keeping our brains busy. so as you become more comfortable in your spot, just breathing. Really focus on your breath. Feel it coming and going. Try and picture it. Maybe its color entering your mouth and lungs. Maybe its oxygen atoms. Maybe its Wownero. It dosnt matter, the point is to put a symbol to it, visualize it. Now its time to follow it. When you breath in air follow the color, through the lungs, through the exchange, into the blood stream. Every breath. See the color spread a little further, feel the color, feel the oxygen. This is key. Feel yourself get oxygenated(it feels nice and tingly). Follow that colorfeels through out your body. Let it spread from your lungs to your skull to your toes, in what ever order is easiest. You can walk yourself into complete relaxation, its very much akin to lucid dreaming, laying there a whirring universe of colors. Ive done this coming down from too stims and it works for me. exercise helps too

>>30963 rofl If you worry about career and finances you aint rich. Its still pretty much like middle ages lower nobility. Oldest gets the company, youngest gets enough money to neet it up and do whatever he wants too. Dude i know did 4 bachelor degrees for personal entertainment. Doesnt need to work and seemed fun for him. >>30952 Contrary to other suggestions the simple choice is not taking anything including what youve been on already and do a dry test drive. That said from personal experience sleep deprivation seems unrelated to motivation. I've worked 48h shifts in the past just fine. You just stop caring about risks and might do dumb soykaf cause too tired to give a fuarrrk.

>>30952 Why on earth would you want to turn off your brain? Enjoy the tides of this unending vortex. To not struggle against the waves. Just ride with them. Get a pencil, then a piece of paper. Try to log, this, something getting processed, and, constant mental buzzing. Only losers get afraid of themselves.

>>30952 You take caffeine as a response to the over-activity not as a cause for it. It'll fuarrrk up your teeth and inflate your anxiety at most. The reason is that your mind is severely under-stimulated and seeks out stimulation in order to correct itself. You can never pursue something unless you're intrinsically motivated to pursue it which leads you to be torn between your passions, not switch between tasks easily, and feel completely lost or forgotten with regards to time and life structure. You have adult ADHD, either genetic or gained from a soykafty upbringing with parents who didn't care how long you were on the internet for. There's no way out of it except vehemently structuring your life till it becomes habit, and stimulant medication.

>>30984 fuarrrk, how did you know Anon? You seem to have hit the nail on the head perfectly. Adult ADHD huh? I always considered ADHD a fake illness though, definitely overdiagnosed. I'm not really interested in getting prescribed stimulants... or doing stimulants. Not really the enslavement I want to enter. Maybe I did spend too much time on the internet growing up, or it was all the traveling I did.

>>31059 I understand. When you know you have an addictive personality you stay away from further vices. I also understand not trusting psychiatrists, since they make bank off of prescribing people drugs for arbitrary symptoms and illnesses. Still, ADHD is a useful label for understanding how highly impulsive and highly distracted people work. I think the better tell if you fit the label is rejection sensitivity disphoria, it just means you can't handle rejection well and something mild will off-set your day no matter how little you rationally care about it. But either or, you should search up how functioning people with ADHD manage without drugs and copy strategies or just try your best to structure your own life yourself and battle the behaviours such as lack of a consistent vision or placing hope on luck that you'll come across something that'll finally release you from the cycle of endless consumption and make you do what you want to do. But quitting coffee, and trying to quit the internet won't change much if you're in an environment that can provide its easy access or lack independence in their access (as in, you live in a place where roommates drink coffee or if you require internet for work), you'll just be back at it because you'll rationalize yourself into returning to those pleasures.

>>31079 I'm not necessarily sure I have an addictive personality, I just tend to latch onto things that boost my energy. I'll binge on sugar, spice, and caffeine, to try and keep concentrated, and focused. Things like weed though, I couldn't understand how people get addicted to that, it's too heavy for every day. Makes me sound like a schizo, as I just don't really trust psychiatrists. Also, I've never been diagnosed with any mental ailment, I kind of want it to stay that way I guess, as I feel like if there's nothing wrong with me, then I can just push through it all :| I had a look at the definition for rejection sensitivity dysphoria, and In my early life that seems somewhat accurate, but not anymore, I rarely care how others think of me, and am often not as held back in pursuing things, and being "awkward" as my peers are. For example in my early life, I would rarely interact with friends, or get close. That all changed around 15/16 though. I think I just had the wrong group of people, none of them were very emotionally intelligent. Luckily I found people who were good in that regard. Though that's reciprocal, and I'm currently acting as a bit of a personal therapist for one person, which i'm wary of, due to some previous experiences. My philosophy became that I would push through every problem, and just not care how others perceive me.

>>31100 I drown out my overstimulated mind with ambient and noise music, this is to block out other senses so I can utilize others. I would say you are having a problem with mental calmness (what I would call it for myself) so you brain is like a ocean that can't be tamed. What you really need to do is learn to not block but focus on things without the intention of forcing the noise out of your head. For the caffeine it can make that stuff way fuarrrking worse so try decaf and cutting it with teas and other drinks that are not gonna kill your mind. Sugar can affect you head to a stupid level if you don't moderate it as well as other bad for your health foods leading to more imbalanced functions and chemicals in your body. For sleep exercise before bed it takes all your energy away preventing it being used on your head as much. https://youtu.be/pbOYIYuFbk0 https://youtu.be/uN6i3W07ohk (I sometimes need merzbow but thats more of a mood thing for me) >Anyone else here experience this soykaf? To a really intense level, links in with my depersonalization disorder but I have talked to people who just suffer from such symptoms. Sometimes its just noise that isn't thoughts and just wrecks havoc on my head. The real way to handle it is letting it be and using what little focus you have on things that are active allowing for you to build a almost plug or solid island in the ocean of thoughts. I used noise music to reduce the senses I use allowing me to focus on more specific tasks. First steps you have to learn what allows you to function even a little more and use that to make a larger improvement over time. Mental noise doesn't go away but only gets easier to handle more you train to control the flow, for some it gets worse but if you train you will only notice the improvements

>>30952 Sounds like textbook mania. Maybe see a doc and try lithium or whatever he prescribes. Good luck, anon.

>>31700 Straight to the lithium holy soykaf lmao.

dissociative symptoms such as depersonalization could be PTSD

>>31706 Think for op its not linked to PTSD as I would think they would mention it if they knew/thinks they know the cause. Would be handy if they could shine some light on any reasons why they might be having these issues. If it was referring to me (>>31698) then no, I have been diagnosed and source is unknown as it developed over 3 years first displaying as depression and major anxiety attacks. But these issues of unable to turn thoughts off are often linked to anxiety and adhd related issues. Don't have to have adhd to have single/similar symptoms remember. You can have issues without having some random extreme disorder and times in your life were your body is just fuarrrked for a while. Could just be a small period of time for op, hard to tell. >>31100 With you saying >tend to latch onto things that boost my energy I feel that its related to attention span as you are are going with short term things that boost your energy in the moment. Having issues focusing on things as if its not easy to access or takes energy over time your mind doesn't like it because it knows it can get instant gratification. A increasing prominent problem people are having due to technology and the internet, as much as I don't want to sound like that person the internet/media consumption needs to be limited to allow for brain to know what to do when without it. I would try something more active like making music or something similar, something that takes effort but gives gratification to the level of effort instead of something that takes longer periods such as huge projects. >try lithium time to get fuarrrked