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Thread to discuss about pedophilia, hebephilia, ephebophilia and anything related to this topic. Just to avoid sterile discussion about semantics, some definitions: >Pedophilia Pedophilia is when an adult is attracted to a prepubescent children, where prepubescent children is defined as a non sexually developed person aged for girls before 10-11 years and for boys before 11-12 years. The word pedophilia comes from the Greek παῖς, παιδός (paîs, paidós), meaning "child", and φιλία (philía), "friendly love" or "friendship". >Hebephilia Hebephilia is when an adult is attracted to a pubescent children, where pubescent children is defined as a sexually developing person aged for girls from 10-11 years to 13-14 years and for boys from 11-12 years to 13-14 years. The word hebephilia comes from the Greek Ἥβη (Hḗbē), meaning "youth" or "prime of life", Hebe was also the Greek goddess of youth in ancient Greek mythology, and φιλία (philía), "friendly love" or "friendship". >Ephebophilia Ephebophilia is when an adult is attracted to an adolescent, where adolescent is defined as a sexually developed person aged from 13-14 years to 18-19 years. The word ephebophilia comes from the Greek ἔφηβος (éphēbos), meaning "adolescent", and φιλία (philía), "friendly love" or "friendship". Pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia were all considered normal in different combinations of cultures and period of times, in particular hebephilia and ephebophilia were considered normal in most cultures comprising western culture until no more than a century ago. Many great people married what would be considered today underage girls without a problem in the past or created works of art that would be considered today child pornography, just to name a few examples in recent modernity: >Charlie Chaplin One of the greatest comic actors of the 20th century married Lita Grey when she was 16 and made her pregnant, although they first met when she was 8 and it is speculated that they had an affair since way before they married. >Edgar Allan Poe The great 19th century romantic writer and poet himself married Virginia Eliza Clemm when she was 13. >Lewis Carroll A famous English writer and photographer during the Victorian period was known to have an interest into children, it is matter of speculation if such interest was of erotic nature or not, but for sure if he was born today his repertoire of child nudes photograph would be considered child pornography and he would be locked up in prison for it. Before the current craziness and witch-hunt towards pedophiles, which has feminist roots not by chance, underage children or adolescents were considered at the prime of humanity and great source of beauty and purity. Then the love of the youth was demonized and overly-sexualized to justify an unprecedented repression, especially on the internet in the recent years. The latest developement in this craziness is considering pedophila/hebephilia/ephebophilia mental illnesses, they are not, they are just part of human nature and our love and admiration of beauty and youth. We humans once used to love beauty and youth, now we worship decadence such as transexuals, obesity and handicaps, all that was bad now it's good and all that was good now is bad, such inversion of cultural ideals cannot be natural. I ask people to respect lainchan's global rule 8 in replying to this thread(don't post CP) and to discuss with an open mind and without prejudice.

Hello glow nigger, you should go back monitoring other imageboards. >Before the current craziness and witch-hunt towards pedophiles, which has feminist roots not by chance That is such an asinine thing to say, as a national socialist I would not mind putting a bullet through your skull. Also prisons (in the US) are a good example of skinheads/nazis/white supremacists/etc not wanting anything to do with your filth. If you get vanned any time soon expect to get shanked. Don't associate yourself with us, glitterboy. >We humans once used to love beauty and youth, now we worship decadence such as transexuals, obesity and handicaps, all that was bad now it's good and all that was good now is bad, such inversion of cultural ideals cannot be natural. Only if you're a glitterboy, reminder that the disgusting LGBT community allowed glitterboys like you to blossom. The only cure for pedophilia is either a helicopter ride or a bullet.

The mods here don't like discussions about controversial or taboo subjects, so expect this thread to get deleted soon. I, for one, will not put any effort into writing a post detailing my views to this subject.

Jesus christ. Always the same guy who starts these threads, always the same pretentious debate style in which he endlessly fiddles about with concepts, obviously not wanting any real dialectic. You just want to push your own agenda under the ruse of good-faith discussion. This thread has been started and devolved into ѕһіt countless times. I don't care if you're attracted to kids. People since paleolithic times have been attracted most to girls in their mid-teens, and young girls nearly always have a thing for older men. It's a vestigial artifact of our pre-cultural animalistic nature that we can't deny, but we can choose how we act. If I ever discovered someone like you took it out on a daughter of mine while you're nearer to my own age... I'd empty a magazine into you and gladly receive a lethal injection. Hell, I'd shoot up your whole family. I have but one life to give. And I expect any father of whoever you act on would do the same. Don't like it? Learn to deal with it. I don't care how many debates you have, you won't change this. We all must make compromises. We'd all love to be with some ideal, fertile teenage fuсk-machine. But we don't get our ideals. In fact, Lacan would say it is best we don't get what we want. Because we don't really want such a thing; we desire to desire it. Let sleeping dogs lie. Or else expect a thoracic cavity filled with lead. I don't say this to be internet-tough, I just mean it that if you try it that's what will happen. Not from me; from whoever you end up crossing. Maybe you could make a case that it isn't just, that it shouldn't be done... but you won't convince a father. Even a meek man becomes a laser-guided bomb when that happens to his daughter. So factor that into your calculations.

>>29730 The reason everyone's so hostile against pedo discourse is because there is nothing worth of discussion to begin with. Asking "should pedos be allowed to roam free?" is akin to asking if people should be allowed to kill non-whites or whether it is a good idea to reintroduce slavery. fuarrrking minors is wrong. It's a settled topic, and it has been for the last four decades. Stop preaching the same propaganda over and over again and go into therapy if you have sexual thoughts involving children.

>>29729 I don't usually, but I'm glad to clasp hands even with a national socialist on this matter. See, there's always a way to find common ground! I'm inspired. Truly. Glad to find a silver lining in this dismal pile of ѕһіt. My dad was an outlaw biker in Texas most his life and I met a lot of ex-cons in the AB as a kid. One taught me how to shoot. Already knew a rifle and shotgun, but never could do anything with a handgun until Uncle Joe showed me how to hunt rats. I still don't agree with most of the philosophy. As for OP: want to find an example of real love? Find somebody who sees beauty in an older woman, even after years of that beauty's fading. Think of your own mother. Could she have been there for you if your father was a degenerate who fuсked people hardly older than his children? OP, did you even have a mother or father to teach you how to properly be a man? Have you ever examined that obvious lack, perhaps how it might drive you to try and recover a lost childhood through a miscarriage of love? It's doomed. I don't want to hear any fuсking whining about prejudice, either. Respect yourself more than this. There's open-mindedness, and then there's foolishness. Do yourself the favor of recognizing which is which. As much as you hate to hear it, some things are beyond logic. Some things are in a realm transcendent right and wrong. Ecstatic truth. If you can't sense it, you should be mercifully put in the ground by somebody close to you for the sake of your family and your own dignity. I don't expect you to listen. Not one whit. But even an animal can learn when it is out of line, though it may not understand why. I hope you take that lesson before you hurt yourself or someone else. You may even have a chance to be happy.

>>29729 based monsoonhomosexual

Ephebephilia isn't considered a mental illness by psychologists like pedohebophilia is (they lump them together. On top of that many psychologists argue against hebephilia even being a thing because of how different people develop so that means there is not really a clear age indicator it's really about physical attributes. Beyond this laws are really screwed up where they assume someone older is inherently a predator no matter how small the age difference and someone younger is inherently a victim which ignores all the minor aged predators out there and makes no effort to challenge them so they grow up to keep doing the same predatory behaviour they did as a minor no surprise. This biased mindset leaves people more vulnerable. It's like thinking only black people rape so if someone is white that means they are safe.

>>29732 Yeah getting tired of my free speech zones getting flooded with "Let's all have a calm rational good faith debate about [nationalism/racism/fuarrrking kids] been tired of this soykaf for like 10 years. We've had the debate a million times fuarrrking little kids/high school kids as a grown man is reprehensible and exploitative. The bad faith is in setting up the discussion for the 1000th time in the first place. I won't complain if you're derezzed.

Stop it, get some help.

>>29731 actually you're wrong this time. last time I made the topic. the fact you call it "pretentious" in somebody presenting a reasonable set of definitions and ideas to work with (and against, in cases like yours) is severe bad faith I hope they prune some of these comments, not very constructive. The thing is our whole hangup on ephebophilia is it is sooooo common. If you put a teen with an adult, there will be attraction. It's perfectly natural.

Pedophiles should get the bullet. Hebe/Ephebos should get treatment, or we need to rework society to allow people to court like they did in the old days. The big thing that's dangerous with an older person and younger person is the older person generally has no obligation to the younger person, and this makes for an unhealthy relationship. Courting under the watchful eye of parents and family would prevent abuses and enable people to have productive and mature relationships while reducing/removing the opportunities for exploitation.

half your age plus seven rule. Never lets me down.

>>29741 So basically 100% of all people need treatment? Definitions vary but ephebephilia goes all the way up to 20. Also the average consent age of the world is 16 so the majority of the world cleary sees ephebephilia is fine and psychologists agree. Only places with higher age than 18 are places like India.

>>29727 This thread is locked and will be deleted at latest in 2 weeks. due to the following violations. From the OP. Rule 4. You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf. You are literally spilling the soykaf, by providing definitions , summaries and then statements as arguments in bad faith without elaboration. Especially with the False dilemma you present. Rule 7. Do not spam or advertise unrelated content. Rule 9. If you must post it, spoiler any NSFW content and make sure it's relevant to the discussion. >>29730 Rule 6. Do not whine and cry about 8chan, lainchan.jp, "quality", "invasions", "new users", mods, bans, or kalyx outside of /q/. Inb4 my free speech, I am sorry but due to consent spam and the #childlove scandal of yesterdayyear, this subject of discussion falls under Rule 7 definition of unrelated content, as per >>29738, this topic has been presented or spammed so many times in /feels/ , /hum/ and elsewhere on the boards, that the level of effort required to not violate Rule 4 and Rule 7 is extraordinarily high. Trying to make a pedo- general in /hum/ like this post has results in locking and deletion.