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End of Internet Archive
Cowboy · 2020-06-26 16:59
Four of the nation's leading book publishers have sued the Internet Archive, the online library best known for maintaining the Internet Wayback Machine.
The complaint attacks the concept of any library owning and lending digital books, challenging the very idea of what a library is in the digital world.
https://blog.archive.org/2020/06/10/temporary-national-emergency-library-to-close-2-weeks-early-returning-to-traditional-controlled-digital-lending/
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/publishers-sue-internet-archive-over-massive-digital-lending-program/
The internet Archive was one of the last good thing about the internet & its about to end, this is not about publishers & their shekels or Copyright laws, this is about total control of information.
What are the alternatives to Archive.org? I know of Library genesis & b-ok.org but they have a limited selection of books & they do not provide the many of the options like J2P files,high quality Raw...etc that archive.org provides
What happens now ? is hosting a public library via IPFS a solution? Torrents? What are your opinions ?
Debbie Charteris · 2020-06-26 17:04
Same soykaf as before, relocate to a free country.
The Oracle · 2020-06-26 17:05
>What are the alternatives to Archive.org?
Supporting free alternatives, making free content and starving proprietary publishers to death.
Alternatively you can go to a library or end copyright laws.
>>28281
>Same soykaf as before, relocate to a free country.
Or Russian servers, lol.
Bob Arctor · 2020-06-26 17:13
>>28281
https://www.wired.com/story/russia-internet-disconnect-what-happens/
Russian servers not a good long term solution as they have plans to disconnect from the global Internet & to build a fully autonomous internet
Internet might be balkanized in the future & all countries might do this
Anamika · 2020-06-26 18:08
>>28280
not just that, moving all that data to another server wouldn't be easy.
Arisu Mizuki · 2020-06-26 18:27
>>28283
>Internet might be balkanized
We already have some segregation through dns blacklists and sites geo-ip based blocking you from server-side. Completely sufficient to keep normal users away.
Interesting in that scope is also that some news sites dont even admit that youre blocked because of your country origin and just claim the article doesnt exist until you use a proxy.
Delilah · 2020-06-27 10:22
>>28282
>Supporting free alternatives, making free content and starving proprietary publishers to death.
Keep pirating everything, that's gonna work out fine
Project 2501 · 2020-06-27 11:55
>>28321
>Keep pirating everything, that's gonna work out fine
Is that irony? It's hard to tell at this point.
Miho Iwakura · 2020-06-27 17:04
>>28321
>Keep pirating
Yes but there has to be content to pirate, Archive.org provided content that was not found any where else on the internet & most piracy sites for books do not have the variety that archive.org had. There is also another issue with piracy, the quality of scans is bad & they do not provide many different formats, many of them offer poorly digitized versions produced by google.Do you know of any good private trackers or sites for book piracy other than the ones already mentioned?
Jean Dupont · 2020-06-27 21:49
>>28280
Why can't Internet Archive just dump all their files to libgen (dot) is for safekeeping/preservation in case IA gets v&?
fsociety · 2020-06-27 22:05
>>28347
Does libgen even have the server capacity to host everything from the internet archive? I recall watching one of IA's videos and their storage space is insane.
Special Agent Bob · 2020-06-27 22:12
What? This is terrible. Archive is the only way to easily make dead links usable.
Armitage · 2020-06-27 22:18
Is it really about to end? I know they messed up but doesn't look like impending doom for some reason. The publishers don't really win anything closing the whole thing anyway.
Cypher · 2020-06-28 00:17
>>28280
How much space would I need to save a local copy?
Spooky · 2020-06-28 01:29
>>28356
And this is why you look for other benefits. Im with op its most likely about information control.
The biggest thing i see here is that archieve catches editing in articles. You can track news & wikipedia changing their spin on topics. My guess is they want the automatic evidence collector gone.
Nemissa · 2020-06-28 08:39
>>28375
40 million gigabytes
https://thehustle.co/inside-wayback-machine-internet-archive
Gyula Kovacs · 2020-06-28 18:20
>>28400
>Million Gigabytes
Why not just say 40 PB?
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2020-06-28 23:28
>""digital"" """lending"""
Marly Krushkhova · 2020-06-29 00:41
>Destroying basically one of the only major hubs of a lot of historical works some of which literally aren't available anywhere else because muh IP
Epic
Ivan Horvat · 2020-06-29 02:16
Alright, what kind of media should I get from the Archive before it happens, specifically books, movies, tv, and music? Also, on what day would it get shut down?
>>28433
We still have Wikisource
Tank · 2020-06-29 02:52
>>28280
Any anons can do DRM removal?
Requesting backup pdfs for the following books from Internet Archive pl0x:
https://archive.org/details/derailingdemocra0000mcgo
https://archive.org/details/pdfy-otanUZGGGcnDgfr7
https://archive.org/details/fp_Killing_Hope-US_Military_and_CIA_Interventions_Since_WWII-William_Blum
https://archive.org/details/FactsAndFascism/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/aftermathmartinb00fara
https://archive.org/details/whofinancedhitle0000pool
https://archive.org/details/tradingwithenemy00char
https://archive.org/details/americanswastika00high
https://archive.org/details/massmurderersinw00lapo
https://archive.org/details/ChristopherSimpsonBlowback.AmericasRecruitmentOfNazis2014
https://archive.org/details/lindahuntsecretagendatheunitedstatesgovernmentnaziscientistsandprojectpaperclip1
https://archive.org/details/pdfy-ei3C44qPKVq7L5ym
https://archive.org/details/beastreawakens0000leem
https://archive.org/details/itsconspiracynat00litc
https://archive.org/details/conspiraciescove00vank
https://archive.org/details/seventygreatestc0000vank
https://archive.org/details/PhysicalControlOfTehMindTowardsAPsychocivilizedSociety
https://archive.org/details/OperationMindControlWalterBowart1978
https://archive.org/details/waronmind00wats
https://archive.org/details/MindControl_201709
https://archive.org/details/searchformanchur00john
https://archive.org/details/aciddreamscialsd0000leem
https://archive.org/details/familystoryofcha00sandrich/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/unspeakableacts0000holl
https://archive.org/details/ultimateevilin00terr
https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780886876326
https://archive.org/details/franklincoverupc00deca
https://archive.org/details/linda-osborne-blood-the-new-satanists-1994-warner-books-libgen.lc
https://archive.org/details/unholyalliancehi00leve
https://archive.org/details/CoverUpOfTheCenturyByDanielRyder
https://archive.org/details/objectiveevilpatriotarticle/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/isbn_9781556521256
https://archive.org/details/higherformofkill00harr
https://archive.org/details/THEPHOENIXPROGRAMValentine_201707
https://archive.org/details/dullesfamily00leon/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780739497739
https://archive.org/details/ultimateevilinve00terr
Netrunner · 2020-06-29 04:07
>>28435
We should see if a bunch of Lainons could pool storage resources to get to the full 40 PB.
Koichiro · 2020-06-29 08:07
>>28436
>Any anons can do DRM removal?
most of the links you have provided do not have DRM only few of them have DRM (nice collection of books)
1. login to archive.org to get download encrypted PDF/ EPUB options, download the link file
2. Open link file in adobe digital editions ,it will download the file
3.once the file is open In adobe digital editions, go to file, then click show in explorer & you get the encrypted PDF/EPUB
4.get some eBook DRM Removal software I used the one from the link below , it might have viruses I didn't check : )
https://karanpc.com/ebook-drm-removal-bundle-4-16-703-379-portable/
5: get DRM free file
Note: Sometimes after you login in to archive.org to get the link to download PDF/ EPUB . The link disappears when the page has fully loaded (might be due to the recent Lawsuit ) refresh the page and quickly click on the download link worked for me I downloaded the first link as an example you can do the others
>>28439
According to the article the computer servers cost :" $60k machines are made up of 10 computers a piece, with 36 8-terabyte drives."
It seems expensive
Crazy Jake · 2020-06-29 15:22
>>28439
Instead of getting the full 40 PB, we should make a list of stuff that won't be easily found elsewhere, maybe a couple terabytes worth of stuff, and host on IPFS or something like that
Tank · 2020-06-29 15:34
It's not the end of Internet Archive. Publishers are only seeking claims for 127 books, making it only a couple million that they would have to pay
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2020-06-29 17:36
>>28442
Adobe Digital Editions is only available for iPhone and iPad according to this link. I have a Macbook (and no iPhone or iPad) :( :( :(
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/adobe-digital-editions/id952977781
Rick Deckard · 2020-06-29 17:55
The EFF has officially joined their legal team.
Joe Bloggs · 2020-06-29 18:41
>>28470
Netrunner · 2020-06-29 21:02
>>28414
That's not that much. We can crowdfund the resources necessary to host a server.
Just another Random Lainon · 2020-06-29 21:38
>>28470
Wasn't that organization wrecked by useful idiot SJW social terrorists?
Jens Hansen · 2020-07-12 20:46
>>28442
Adobe Digital Editions is not compatible with the Macbook OS (see here >>28469) so I cannot use this method.
Somebody swipe all the book pdf's from >>28436 and post them here pl0x:
Hong, Guil Dong · 2020-07-12 21:39
>>28442
Never mind, I figured the whole process out.
You are a based lainon.
How to download Adobe Digital Editions for Mac (super simple):
https://help.overdrive.com/en-us/0003.html
Pris · 2020-07-12 23:12
>>28442
Update: I now have pdf with DRM removed of every book in that list that's not already OpenSource or PublicDomain
Thank You Based Lainon
Cat Mother · 2020-07-13 18:34
>>29080
Upload these books to libgen so others could read them too.
Agent Richard Gill · 2020-09-14 02:23
>>28356
The only reason they do this is to maximize profits. Of course in the end they win
Armitage · 2020-09-14 02:25
>>28492
That's a boat I'd be on
Otto Normalverbraucher · 2020-09-14 02:30
>>28442
Can't we just make a JS bot to screenshot through the whole thing and merge the pages all into one pdf, that seems less labor costly. The down side is that we could get blocked and that books will result much heavier
Trinity · 2020-09-14 17:47
>>32025
If you mean, screenshot the Archive.org online reader, then no. It shows a few pages demo only, cracking the DRM is the best way to go. Doing so with Google Books on the other hand.
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2020-09-16 01:24
>>28280
Library at Alxeandria.
BloodCat · 2020-09-16 03:02
how many private mirrors exist?