How does lainchan make their money?

How do you lanions make your money? Are you successfully employed in the IT industry like I want to be? Are you currently reduced to being a clerk in a gas station like I have been? ;-;? Do you mine bitcoin and live a comfy NEET life? I have been trying for a long time to get into the industry of IT. I believe that once I return to OR, I may be able to fulfill that dream. I am looking for replies so I may be better able to understand how individuals whom I consider my peers make money. Btw, this was me >>12232 After returning to my Grandfather at his insistence (which I did not want to do) I found only two jobs since January. This included a subway sandwich job I quit after working only two days due to part time work and mismanagement I did not want to be associated with. Since then, I became a clerk in a gas station making $8/h with extreme mismanagement, but it's full time. I hope to use this money to save up and go back to OR, my adoptive home state. The replies I get for this thread I will apply to advice for when I return to OR.

really any way I can. I have a min wage job but only work about 20 hours a week, everything else is from side gigs and selling drugs and some parental assistance

>>14949 I used to deliver chinese food and move furniture for a while. I finally saved up a small portion of cash, wrecked my car, and jumped into animation. I now make a pretty good amount of coin doing 3d animation for commercials. To imply anyone could do this would be privileged survivor bias. I can do it because I had a good start and was lucky. But forget your grandfather, or what anyone else tells you to do. Forget what you tell yourself to do sometimes. It really does take a leap. I finally make 75k, which is less than my dad at my age in straight numbers, and way less than he had if you factored cost of living and inflation. It's a racket out there. We have way less opportunities than our fathers. Don't feel sorry for those fuarrrkers, they pulled the ladder up and now they're retiring and whining that nobody calls 'em.

>>14952 And I'd like to clarify--I'm ecstatic to be making 75k. I'm finally comfortable. I was raised with a different family, and my stepdad is the one with the cash, so I know what it is to be poor. But it really is ridiculous what money is like now. Rent is ridiculous wherever you can get a real job. There are practically no blue collar people left--at least not in significant numbers--and the new American middle class is made up of tech workers. It's obviously true--what do you think of when you picture an affluent person who isn't owner or capital class? It's the bay area people and their ilk in the other cities throughout the land. But they have no labor strength. They're fractured. They're siloed in wework and microflats. It's a new tenement system, and nobody sees it because this class is supposedly not labor in the classical sense. But it is, and those underneath them rely on them to fight for expanded rights.

I'm a dead-end student, praying that a scholarship works out because I just had to quit a job because my anitdepressants wrecked my sleep schedule. I'm planning to start studying CS after SCM fell apart for me, but frankly I'm not expecting the whole scholarship thing to work out for me and I'll probably have to go be a NEET at home again.

I was forced to learn a trade when young. Always can fall back on it and earn fairly decent money.

It's probably a long shot, but there must be at least one professor on lainchan. It's a career path I'm thinking of going down, and I'm not sure if it's something I want to do. I don't really know what the day-to-day is.

I wage slave products/companies/services on imageboards, reddit, Telegram public channels. I get a certain amount of dollars or cents for every good written and convincing post.

>>14996 Not a professor but a post-doc. It depends a bit on the field; I'm not sure how much my observations generalise outside of biology. As a professor you get focus on your research for many years and hire people to help you. There are few other options that give you that amount of freedom and resources to pursue your interests, so it is pretty great in that regard. The unappealing part is that most of a professor's time gets caught up in getting funding, dealing with bureaucracy, and self-promotion. Writing grants, papers, giving presentations about it, taking time away from managing your lab and students or employees, let alone doing any research yourself (along with having other teaching responsibilities on top). The other unpleasant part is the large amount of competition for academic positions. Far more so than two or so decades ago since there are so many graduates (including phds) and universities have stopped growing.

>>15007 Thanks for the reply, Lainon, I really appreciate it. I imagine things are slightly different for law professors, but as I understand it the downsides are shared. As for entering the market, would you recommend trying to get on a master's or doctoral program that places some focus on teaching, or just trying to get into the best institution possible?

>>15008 I wouldn't worry about teaching so early on, there's always time for that later. Phd students mostly teach to have some extra income. Industry experience might be more beneficial to get instead. For science research I'd recommend picking it based on the supervisor and lab you want to join, and having a clear idea of what question you want to answer or skills you want to learn. The institute itself will have less of an influence on your experience. For law however the institution (and its prestige and connections) may be more important (also depends on the country you are in).

>>15007 Don't you have a responsibility to teach as a prof and lose a lot of time on lectures? Being able to focus on research seemed to be the exception rather than the norm.

>>15044 Not really. A professor is meant to increase a universities standing by producing research and bringing in funding. Teaching is also important, but is usually meant to be a manageable amount during the semester. The idea of a professor is that they are paid for an easy job with a few hours a week (teaching) so that they have the time, energy, and resources to otherwise do research.

>>15048 I think this is here a case of different countries. I see some run 2 lectures in one semester which is already 8h/week + they likely need a hour prep time so ~10h /week which is more than a day lost on lecturing per week. In addition they write the script for the lecture. This happens of course between semesters but it means again more time spend on teaching. And finally they have open hours where you can speak with them. One prof was telling how happy he was to be able to focus on research for the next 2 years and skip teaching.

I work at a car rental, which earns me enough to get by. I’m currently trying to get good at programming so I can earn a bit more at a job I hopefully won’t hate as much. It’s probably a meme but I’m giving it a good shot. >>14952 How much runway did you save up before jumping in? Did you already know some 3D animation, or did you just learn what you could while living off savings? I’m considering quitting my current job and going all in at a later time, but it feels like a big risk to take.

>>15048 the only downside it's that most university professors aren't qualified to teach. Quality teaching requires lots, lots of time, preparation and what not. Lot of universities don't care about this problem. Lots of U teachers don't realize this, until I make them realize that they could b easily replaced by a YouTube video, and it would actually be more academic friendly and actually useful to the students, than they just standing there "teaching". And this usually in universities that were not really best known for their research. Was an academic advisor at several local universities here. I even had to evaluate an old Calculus teacher I had. I had to break his heart :( Best university teacher I met was a Law teacher. He had been teaching for +forty years, an he was quite good at it. He had worked out how to actually make an engaging class during all those years, and he had no previous formal teaching training. He was just very aware of when and what his students were actually learning. TL;DR The idea that teaching is an easy job usually is the worst thing that can happen to a student.

>>15053 Is is actually a big risk. Don't quit until you know you will be accepted into a big IT company. Car rental might not be a big thing, but I don't think it might die soon due to this bad economy.

I managed to land a programmer position and I'm now making 8.6k a year, which yeah it might not sound a lot but it's pretty darn nice here in the third world. Now don't get me wrong, I really aim for getting some remote position for an American/European company so I can get payed with their standards, cause hot damn like someone making minimum wage there can live like a king here with the same money. Now I really wanna do a doctorate at some point and get into academia, but for now all I want is to stay comfortable, getting that seniority and maybe build myself a house at some point.

>>14949 >Are you successfully employed in the IT industry like I want to be? Employed, yes. Successfully, no. I work for a tiny company that does tech-support and sysadmin work for locally-owned businesses in the area. The technical side of the work is easy if not dull, at least when it doesn't involve troubleshooting cryptic Windows error codes. The hard part comes from dealing with people, since I just can't ever explain anything more than a simple concept to anyone without them getting confused. I blame myself, not other people, since there'll be times where a coworker steps in to explain it for me and they do a much better job. I make only 20 grand a year, but luckily I live in an area where it's easy to live alone off that little. Problem is, though, I don't want to live here. There's nothing to do, and all the people I feel I'd make good friends with seem to have left for the big cities, where all the well-paying jobs and places to do things are.

>>15005 Do you use any of their products/services before selling out?

>>15065 I am OP. I was making $64/day. I resigned on July 8, and will work for only 2 more weeks when I plan to return to OR to live in the woods for a brief time and begin a job hunt there. I hope this will help me. This is also an update to my original thread in the begining of the year, >>12232 >INB4 derezzed for blogposting I simply think there are individuals who care to know what happened since my OP.

>>14949 >Are you successfully employed in the IT industry like I want to be? Yeah, in fact I think I lucked out a bit with where I'm at. Ended up starting at the place as a contractor, got full hired about a year in, initially just doing standard help desk stuff. Over time I was able to give input on some important projects and I think that helped open things up to the point I'm at now, which is slowly giving me more to be in charge of for Azure Intune. As much as I loathe the "blade" interface it's great to get the opportunity to learn it, never would've thought a year or two ago that I'd soon be "Intune Admin". Still waiting on a pay increase though, it's rumored to happen "soon"™

I've been a locksmith, bike courier, site manager for a national park, barista, and plenty of other soykafty jobs that don't make the list. I'm currently a stagehand for big concerts and corporative gigs. People in my city love to value stubbornness in correlation to promotions that you have for a job that you ''studied'' for, which means I get very few respect from strangers and acquintances. I've rarely made more than 25k a year, yet I love learning new things but I only want to work between spring and fall. I can't be alone, no? I want to create things and do projects but I don't want to settle, I want to go fast but everybody is going so slow.

I'm currently employed at my university and I usually max out my maximum of 9 h per week because I'm desperate for money. Life has dealt me a pretty soykafty hand for the last four months, though, so it's hard to get the motivation to do anything. Before that, I worked at >Textile factory >Sick transport >Kiosk >Medical lab >Private teacher >Barkeeper All while enrolled at university. Glad I'll get paid next year when I start my PhD.

>>15068 Update: Returned to OR, looking for temp work to find a place to live until I (hopefully) get college in October. I am currently e-begging so I may stay in my motel. Just thought you all deserved an update.

>>15007 Completely unrelated, but: what do you think of nootropics as a biologist?

>>15064 I was gonna write a post but i am exactly in the same situation and have the same objectives as this guy. I occasionally try to do freelance work, normally i group up with 1 or more programmers in order to finish the job quickly, undercut the competition or both. Usually web dev and mobile stuff. Can buy a few cans of monster and a random part for my Frankenstein computer builds.

>>15304 damn bruh it took you 4 days from posting on the cock li mailing list to give us lainons an update. stay safe and good luck Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!