Intuition

What is your take on intuition? Do you believe that some people lack this quality? Is it strangulated by the way that our society is or are some people just born without it? Maybe it isn't even intuition, but I can't think of a better word for it. I remember in school, a lot of people wouldn't ever truly think about a problem, but instead always stick to whatever sort of formula that the teacher taught. As in, they couldn't come to the conclusion of a situation by analyzing it and thinking about it for a while. Another example was when I was riding with my friend in his car(which is a manual tranny) for the first time. At stop lights, he held the clutch in and kept the car in gear. I asked him why he didn't just put it in neutral and take his foot off of the clutch petal, and he says "that's just how my dad taught me to do it." It's not like I'm an expert or anything, but I said that I figured that doing that will put unnecessary wear on the clutch, and why bother when you can just put it in neutral and keep your foot on the brake? Not to mention that it's just uncomfortable. It seems like maybe a consequence of how little freedom that kids have growing up now, and even adults. Parents are doing soykaf like putting location trackers on their kids phones now - and that's a lot more common than I thought. Constantly being told how to act, and what not to do doesn't exactly set a person up to think for themselves.

yeah I've always noticed that as well. some people just can't separate what they've been taught from what is. I think humans naturally have "intuition", it's just we can be taught to forget it. if you'll allow me to get a little paranoid on you, it makes sense that everything's taught in an ultra formulaic way; if we were taught to think for ourselves we might god forbid start thinking for ourselves. I remember many times in math and physics classes asking the teacher to explain certain formulas only to get a response akin to "it doesn't matter why it works it just does". the question is then why do some people do this by nature? I would say it's as most things a combination of nature and nurture. for one it could be distrust of others brought upon by bad experiences with authority. it could also be simple curiosity that some people hold more than others. whatever it is I do think it's a trait that's uncommonness is unsettling.

Here's how I see it. Intuition is animistic. It's the "animal instinct" of humans at it's core. We are all programmed with basic intuition at birth - seek breast when hungry. Cry when in distress. Etc. As we grow older, our environment shapes our intuition further. Children are naturally curious to everything around them. And here's where the problems start - with parenting. If a parent shields their child from every single thing, child's intuition or instinct would not develop further. It's reasonable to shield a child from obvious death. Let the kid climb and fall. It will learn how to both fall safer and climb higher without falling. You get the point. But even in childhood, before school, children have a lot more freedom to explore. School just accelerates the whole process. I remember I didn't care about math even though I had potential to be good at it. But I got very interested in it in university. Why? I discovered the reasons behind it all. The theory, proofs and all that jazz. It all made sense. In school, no one cared to explain. But at the same time I can't blame the teachers as well. They are doing what they are told and with such massive disrespect for their call, it's reasonable to assume they can't meet every child's needs. Long story short, before I write a whole essay: We are all born with intuition. It's our bare-bone animistic instinct. We are just forced to learn how to shut it down. I believe you can re-open it by pursuing some creative work as a hobby, something that is not based on established on formulas. Mediation also helps.

i know exactly what you mean. its a form of communication or sense that isnt rational and therefore by our societies terms invalid. i 100% feel its strangulated, thats the nature of european or western civilization, down to our very fundamental social contracts. I could say way more but il say this, to those without it , those of us that do and our entire ways and intuitive communications might as well be invisible. and sometimes i feel like thats what makes it beautiful, we have access to this whole other world that might as well not exist and may even one day be eradicated completely. The fact that its something that cant be spoken or fully explained unless one has it (like eyesight) means it is eradicated because the nature of eradication exists within the rational context which for all intents and purposes is the "real" context. however your examples kind of dissapoint me. intuition to me is an animal knowing an earthquake will happen. Or two people knowing ehat the other is thinking just by a glance. Maybe this is what you mean though, and rationality just forces someone to think of an example within it that is closest. To me though it seems like you are talking about rationality itself in contrast to pure ignorance. i dont think this rationality is useless, otherwise id be insane and speaking nonsense to you. i think rationality should be used to train and guide the intuition. its impossible without rationality to know if my intuition to hold the clutch as you say is actually an intuition to follow my parents or if its something greater, in this case it is the former as you say.

Intition is a vital tool for me, i use reasoning when i have to solve a concrete problem, but when i have no frame of reference for logical thinking i just go with my gut instinct, it usually works out well.

Intuition is thought that isn't made into language, so we can't read it back to ourselves. https://old.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/comments/bfffat/when_we_talk_mathematics_we_may_be_discussing_a/ It's pure thought, no translation to language.

>>13866 I agree, though my idea of intuition would be more like background process; I can answer complex maths problems, but I don't know how I got the result.

intuition is the core of human cognition. We use language to structure thought, but we learn language by intuition.

>>13866 On the topics of math and intuition, Pascal once said this: Dull minds are never either intuitive or mathematical.