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Seeking Prophets

Armitage · 2019-04-26 11:15
I have questions, and I have answers. I will probably irritate some of you, some of you will simply not believe me, some of you will laugh at me, some of you will think me crazy, some of you will not care. I have received divine instruction, and that instruction was "you are not able to receive divine instruction". I soykaf you not, I am a prophet who's only revelation was I am not to be a prophet. Rather I am tasked with finding and seeking prophets, because there is still prophets to this day. I am also tasked with finding prophets of old, discerning truths in religious books, finding where they have been altered and where is the truth. I have some help, I am not entirely alone, my group is small though. Still when I refer to my aims and values I will say "we", one because I think it sounds cool and gives me more authority, two because some of these were reached on group consensus and are not my choice alone. Il introduce "us" first. We are a religious oriented group (hardly a group more a band of friends) who is dedicated to God, though we often fail we try our best and always move in that direction. We feel God has lost its meaning and become abstract, God has indeed in a way "died", but it is not dead. Often people see God as simply an easy way to answer problems of creation and what not, to instill good or complacent behavior. We actually see these as almost being irrelevant, God for us is the ultimate reality, the ultimate truth. God is creator too but only in a sense. As for heaven and hell and eternal reward, we see these as distractions from the goal of truly loving God and understanding it. We only believe there is one God, for there can only be one God. Even if one were to suppose multiple golds, these gods would live in a reality beyond their construction or a result of their combined construction, in which case that construction that is beyond or the interplay and networking between the gods would be God ultimately. We do not see Jesus as a manifestation of God, or a son, or part of some kind of trinity. We do see him as a prophet. Even if Jesus were to be a manifestation of God, that would be irrelevant as in that form he could not possibly convey all of God anymore than another prophet could. We also note that it is incredibly common for those facing an ego destruction that is then filled by God consciousness to say "I am God". Jesus would not be the first nor the last. Though there is too many prophets to list almost, we have some you could consider to be our most favored. These are; Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, and Rumi. Unlike Jews who also recognize that there is many many prophets, we don't see Moses as being so advanced of one that he makes all other prophets irrelevant. God is too vast to possibly be completely conveyed by any person, no matter how favored. We also do not see Muhammad as the last prophet. Many prophets claim this, we believe this to be a misinterpreting of eternity. When one is filled with God consciousness, they may perceive their message as being "eternal", this is incredibly hard for the human brain to truly comprehend and thus it gets translated as "this is the last message". For the God consciousness transmitted to them is in fact the last, as well as the first, as well as infinite. I could tell you more but I think this is enough. As I said my goal in life is to love God and behave as a limb of him, and this limb was tasked with finding Prophets, those capable of receiving God's message because my consciousness or brain or whatever can not handle it. I was told if I did in fact try I would completely lose touch with reality and likely kill myself because id become so obsessed with the immaterial world. I am looking for stories of people you believe to have had prophetic visions, or words and stories. You may have not even understood them to be prophetic. Sadly many of the prophets are considered mentally ill today, however some are aware of how to pass as normal and keep their visions a secret but all to those close to them. To help you I will give you guidance. Prophetic words are often not logical or reasonable especially if the person is very scattered. They seem to come from nowhere, you can't point to some piece of media they got it or developed it from, they can be (seemingly) not related to god at all. They lack talk about self when it comes to their visions, though they may have something to say about their plan, the main story or message will largely be considered with the workings of something or a system that does not revolve around them. Whats very important is this vision is REAL to them, as real if not more real than the material world. It is not say a dream they had and then interpreted, it is something they are absolutely convinced of upon receiving it, perhaps they have even seen it in a visual form. This should be a given but the vision should be related to God, the afterlife, the immaterial, or the underlying workings of the world. In addition we seek any information about Adam that may be more obscure or hard to find. We also are looking at, not for ourselves but for understanding, alchemical/magic/whatever attempts and methods to achieve true hermaphroditism. That's all, i'd love to answer any questions as long as you can answer some of mine. I don't have any information you couldn't ultimately find yourself though, just as you likely don't for me. Regardless we cut a lot of each others work out if we do just share.
Chan Siu Ming · 2019-04-26 11:19
also, as long as you promise to give me full disclosure about the validity of your prophet stories (reasons to believe, reasons to not, the persons character, etc.), I promise that if you ask me any questions I will make sure to let you know the validity of them. I won't say anything as if it's God given fact, if in actuality its just a belief or suspicion I have.
Leto Atreides I · 2019-04-26 12:43
That certainly sounds interesting. I have studied these things, not much to really prove anything. From what i have understood from other sources and my own experiences, god is basically a collective intelligence of all thing that exist and do not exist. Therefor basically reality is not solid but fluid, time and space are basically information. It also implies any being with awareness, intellgence and will can by choice connect with the spirit world and change physical reality, this is often accomplished by magic, shamanism and whatnot. Which also means that anyone can tune in to divine intelligence and assume godly powers if they have an understanding and choose to do so. What is often refered to as gods are higher beings existing on another plane of existence above our own. Mankinds flaw lies in their own view of a solid, dualist and monolithic reality, of god being a seperate being. Though even ancient cultures knew the truth, all is one. I have little concrete understanding yet to prove anything but it is certain to me that a great truth is coming out and we need to listen to it. Good luck with your studies, if i find anything concrete i will certainly let people know.
Pulse · 2019-04-26 17:56
>listing prophets >doesn't even mention Elijah read your bible if you want to be a "prophet" bruh
Judge Fang · 2019-04-27 00:38
I had a similar revelation about Kundalini yoga, I'm not going to be the master of it, but I'll do something with enough talent skill and focus that it will send somebody to that state & that's probably the closest i'll know. I think it's a huge loss that communities don't have someone that regularly goes into samadhi that they can turn to. in most of America at least, such a person would be confused for someone who 'doesn't work', and not welcome to any social benefits (even though Thought On The Divine is the hardest kind of work possible) orthodox islam and any masjid will tell you that PM <pbuh> was the last prophet in an age of prophecy, but I disagree with that particular 400+ year old dogma. I think Swami Vivekananda, Sri Aurobindo, J Krishnamurti, Carlos Casteneda, Timothy Leary were all prophets, or Intelligence Agents sent to reconfigure old semantic models for a new age.
Terzibashjian · 2019-04-27 02:34
>>13757 >>13762 What do you two think about Gurdjieff and Ouspensky? Do they count as "prophets"?
Guthrie · 2019-04-27 09:12
>>13763 Possibly to the first, definitely no to the second.
Project 2501 · 2019-04-27 19:50
>>13764 Slavs cannot be prophets, huh?
HELIOS · 2019-04-29 13:04
>>13772 damn those slavs, trying to prophet soykaf