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How the hell do normal people stay interested in university for 3 fuarrrking years in one topic? Like for example studying biology every fuarrrking day, every fuarrrking week for years. How? I can't handle studying the same soykaf every day for months, I need variation but with a tight workload like in universities nowadays, it's not intended or possible to study some other fields of interest inbetween. I do it anyway ofc but here I am already a long-term student, not what normal people do. do you think I might have attention deficit disorder?

by going into a field that interests you, or by understanding that there are rewards for suffering through years of bureaucratic soykaf in school

>>10996 >by going into a field that interests you, I find many things interesting - now what I do not find interesting is grinding 1 subject for years.

Most people I've known, me included, fall in love with the bigger picture/objective and consider the college course just another step towards what they want to achieve. I didn't really want to formalize my programming knowledge but I wanted to work on the field so I had to go through college to get to the point I wanted. Now stuff is going the way I like it and it only took me 4 years and a debt that I won't finish paying till 2037, but hey, at least I have the life I wanted.

>>10999 >consider the college course just another step towards what they want to achieve it doesn't seem to me the majority of people at university have a greater battle plan. Most folks just seemed to have picked the topic that they find most interesting and hope for the best after graduation In that regard they aren't too different from me but they seem to handle the grind better than me. Maybe I actually don't have as much interest in the subject as them? >Now stuff is going the way I like it and it only took me 4 years and a debt that I won't finish paying till 2037, but hey, at least I have the life I wanted. congratulations Not being stuck in a job that you hate is a good thing, you did good.

Im a man of many interest that i can pursue with passion, however going to uni for 4 years and studying the same soykaf, i couldnt do, not like this over and over. I think normal people are driven more by career and financial outlooks than interest.Also im sure they slack off a lot and cheat.

>>11005 >I think normal people are driven more by career and financial outlooks than interest I wish I could be driven by that soykaf

>>11007 Off topic, but I've found myself quite a lot of times wishing I was a normal person. fuarrrk. soykaf would be way easier if I was way more basic and didn't give a fuarrrk about ideals or emotions beside wanting more money.

>>11008 > wanting more money it's not that hard actually money means possibilities, you could try out so much more in life with the right funds. Too bad having a full time job means having less time for elaborate activities. As a consequence people waste it on consumption. The system is fuarrrked.

>>10995 They don't really stay interested in it I think. Or rather, they see the uninteresting parts as soykafty but necessary for the greater reward of getting a degree which helps you a lot in life. It's probably rare to find a person who has the same passion for a subject when they finish school as when they started.

>>11012 > Or rather, they see the uninteresting parts as soykafty but necessary for the greater reward Interesting wording. Makes me think of collecting firewood for the cold night (when outside). This one is necessary for survival though unlike intellectual pursuits at university. Maybe this is exactly my mistake and the difference to the other people studying - maybe I don't perceive the intellectual pursuit as a necessity for survival and instead see it as a form of entertainment. When this entertainment gets bland and repetitive, I don't feel like continuing. Thanks, I think you helped me see things more clearly.

idk. I can sit down and start doing math and four hours later I wonder where the time went. I guess it's just drive.

>Like for example studying biology every fuarrrking day, every fuarrrking week for years. How? They don't. They party, they spend days watching series, they skip lectures if they can and only attend seminars, and so the BSc takes 4 years, not 3. Source: my roommate is in 4th and final year of BSc I'm on compsci (math and abstract heavy, no engineer stuff) and I can spend like 3 days a week giving a soycaph about university and need the other 4 to be passive, and while I may study on these days, I must keep them unallocated so I can just do nothing if I feel like. Strangely enough I often grind things when I want to, but am unable to otherwise (be it studying, or things like video games). I also have this strangely ambivalent attitude towards most subjects. I hate them because they are hard and the swarm of dry, boring little details that pull my grades towards the grave hurt me; but meanwhile I understand how it fits my studies and how it'll make my understanding of the whole more complete, and that's awesome. >>11005 I see this a lot too, people are almost hostile to any attempts trying to broaden their horizons and give them the general idea, attitude, or any form of insight. They'd rather learn the industry leading (tm) technology than the theory behind all such technologies, even if that meant picking the new one up when they grad would take barely any effort. If the subject and the exam isn't in a "this is the test, these will be the questions, these are the answers, now cram" format, they seem displeased. It's as if they only had enough IQ to understand high school and "work hard to get money to feel good" and nothing else. They probably do... and this isn't even culture-free US or some commonwealth country, it's and old European one. One possible reason for this is that I have a stable background while some of these people don't. Oh yeah and school is free, but you have to keep your grades okay and not take too long. >>11015 I can only do this after spending some time in a library. If my environment quiets down in the literal and abstract ways, I also quiet down inside, and then textbooks go from tedious to interesting.

>>10995 Maths user here, I only study the syllabus before coursework/exams. You can skip a term, blitz the reading material, go through the past papers and ace any test with ease. Questions are always formulaic; you don't have to be intelligent, only willing to go 12+ hours a day for a week or so. At that point the patterns are etched into your mind and all the questions seem easy to the point of being boring. I know some humanities courses grade you on lecture participation, so you're fuarrrked there, but it should work for STEM (and this site seems like it's >90% STEMlords).

>>11025 This works until you get to more advanced coursework where the ideas being presented are very complicated and abstract, problems are proofs with no formulaic structure, and the professor is not necessarily following a textbook or published lecture notes. If you think you're hot soykaf because you figured out vector calc on your own, I got news for you... that's baby stuff. I know many, many people who bluffed their way through the first few years of a STEM degree before getting to this point. A lot of them are dropping out. Talent only goes so far. For every great genius, where were 100 people who were twice as talented but half as driven, and they accomplished nothing.

The point of university is to learn, not to learn anything in particular. Learn what interests you, take classes that interest you. Most degrees don't take an excessive amount of work to complete.

>>11028 *was to learn maybe i'm just an odd case but my experience in uni has started to be that I learn and put out good work and yet receive crappy grades because I wasn't learning exactly what they wanted to. if it was just me who thought this id assume I was retarded, but i've had two out of my four teachers this semester approach me frustrated because they said they saw me doing the work and really valued my class input and "critical thinking skills" and yet I was receiving a poor grade because of small stuff I wasn't doing. They were trying to be understanding and they are great professors but it really just gave me the message that even the professor knows i'm being graded unfairly yet continues to grade me unfairly. Depending on how you view fairness im actually being graded incredibly fairly, as in i'm being graded the same amount as everyone else. Yet I remember my first design class, i'd receive a lesser grade than someone whos work was literal garbage because my "process" wasn't consistent. That's because sometimes i'd spend that whole day just exploring some weird tool in illustrator, because the way I learn I literally have to understand everything about what i'm doing. If I do something and it just works that isn't enough if I can't repeat it for me. So this meant sometimes i'd have nothing to show the next class, which meant for that day i'd get a very low grade. Yet my finished work was usually received an A, and I was also the first person people would ask when they wanted to know how to do something because I was the only one actually exploring fully how to use everything. Others half the time were just not moving outside of what they knew. It's a very good model for the real world to be fair. As my professor put it my grades are like my pay, and also design companies often care more about you being able to demonstrate your processes of work when hiring because your finished designs might not be applicable to what they are doing. However it's why I don't agree that the point of university is to learn, because of this push for practicality they have started to become places that are supposed to ship you off to a good job (and yet still fail to be as good at that as a trade school). I'm sure it varies university to university and program to program, but I've heard similar things from other universities (albeit all in my state). I agree though that should be the point. It's why I always hate it when STEM majors (which I used to be) whine about general ed or core classes. Especially because you generally can tailor them to your interests, if absolutely none of the classes that fulfill your philosophy requirement interest you maybe you shouldn't be at college? Even stuff people like to whine about like cultural diversity requirements, if there is nothing in the literature or art of another culture beyond your own that interests you i'd argue you aren't exploring enough. Most of my education is paid for in scholarships but even if I was paying the massive amount required (america lol) i'd still see it as inherently worth it job or not, these are things I wanted to learn and will die happy knowing I did. I doubt I would have learned them on my own, kudos to you if you are self driven like that I just am not.