Life is boring

Does anyone else find life very repetitive and boring? I used to be a shut-in, but now I go to work, sometimes go to social events/concerts/sports, and have built up a circle of friends who are fairly interesting. But deep inside I'm still bored as hell, I feel like life is an endless grind of tedium with no danger or excitement. I know at my age I'm supposed to be settling down, but I just can't. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like my window for excitement is closing now that I'm in my mid 20s. Is travel the key to a more exciting life? There must be more to life than sitting at a computer screen and sometimes going to parties.

Life is a very tedious grind. Its what you are grinding for that matters.

>>10411 Is there nothing you're passionate about?

>>10412 This! Find out what matters to you and do it. Forget about time and doing things, learn to grab the day and do what you think you want to do. Life is there for living, some different than others, learn to go with the flow. I feel similar btw, but i managed to find contentment in my existence. Try new things, or just daydream, just find something that you can live for every day.

I feel the same. I've traveled quite a bit for about a year and was in between places for a while, it's exciting and new but at the same time very stressful to be somewhere knowing you'll have to leave eventually and you have to be careful with money. Now that i'm stable I find myself bored a lot, I still go on small vacations but still, 90% of the time i'm Not traveling, I'm at home or working. People say the solution is to get busy. I understand, when i'm working (busy) i dontt think about being bored, same as when i'm concentrated into an activity; reading, watching something. But still. On most of my days off I'm bored. I find that being bored is sometimes part of a bigger problem. If i'm bored, why don't i just do something? Go for a walk, draw, watch a movie, go to a museum? Thinking about doing some of these don't seem appealing and even stressful. Maybe because i know after that movie, i'll be bored again. I'll start a drawing or a song but for what? I wish i was dedicated to something, I envy those who have been making music for years, know a lot about a subject, etc.

>>10445 I am in a similar situation with moving often. For me to end boredom I have thought my values and goals and that in order to achieve them I have to find meaning in the tasks I am doing. It helps keep me on task and Its hard to be bored when you know you are doing the thing you are supposed to. Aim your arrow at the target and the actions to get the arrow to the point will come naturally.

>>10445 So the answer really is to pack my laptop in a bag and start traveling around the world? I'm thinking about going to Asia where it is at least a little cheaper and running my business from there. Extreme sports and things don't cut it anymore. I have to keep ramping the adrenaline and danger up and up and up. Maybe I should try cutting myself as well, I've heard that's exciting. Also dangerous and stupid sexual things. I don't want to start on drugs until I'm over 30.

People who live their whole life in the fast lane are interesting. Usually they get addicted to meth or coke just to keep up, and die around 40 if they don't get shot first. Personally, I'll take the simple life. Don't need a lot of entertainment or anything, just a purpose and some people to be with. Amazingly, those are the two things that are the hardest to get. But I'm willing to power through all this ennui to get there.

All the excitement is right there in front of you, you just chose to avoid it by doing the reasonable, efficient, expected thing. Hell, you even think stuff like "I know at my age I'm supposed to be settling down".

Consider whether you're mistaking boredom for loneliness. Late capitalism forces everybody into alienated patterns of work and consumption, with little human connection. The Frankfurt school wrote about this in the 1950s, and it's only accelerated with the advent of the internet. Isolated workers work harder, spend more to relax after their hard work, and pose little threat to the continuing stability of the system. I think a large part of the appeal of travel is not merely being in a different space, but being in a different lifestyle. Escaping the preordained pattern of work, consume, sleep, repeat and making some human connections.

>I know at my age I'm supposed to be settling down >mid 20s what? :D

Thats because youve been robbed and then given a cheap replacement by the times. Life does not get more boring as one gets older the boring current society gets more real as one gets older. And boring is a word with rather odd connotations considering your brain is actually in a state similar to anxiety when bored. We only identify it as boredom because the feeling is tied to not doing anything. And in other circumstances of not doing anything some people and cultures have found great peace rather then an irritating anxiety. To call it simply being "bored" makes it to be a minor nuisance rather then something thats linked to higher suicide rates. "Boreds" solution is distracting yourself more, even at risk of injury. So what will you really call it? And what would be your solution to that? You may still again call it the wrong thing but if you see the truth in what im saying you will see it again and again until you know the truth in whole. Even if I told you what I see it as, you would not understand unless you already would without me telling you. All it would do is maybe cause you to be fixated on my choice of word rather than underlying concept. Remember being a kid and even just something like making a sandcastle could completely engross and fascinate you? Our minds prove themselves at one point to be fully capable of entertaining themselves but then something grows in us which in the current times grows deformed. If we trusted a bit more we wouldnt be so uncontent in our boredom, nor feel unable to escape it.

>>10489 because from a young age we're told that play before work is an unforgivable sin. It's the American ideology at work.

That's because the world has been pacified. High tech, low life. All class has been abolished. Either you are a merchant, NEET or corporate slave. I had some hope in the mailbomber for being the new unabomber, but nothing happened. fuarrrking retard left DNA and fingerprints.

>>10450 try cutting yourself as a sexual thing. Asia has dom prostitutes if you're into that.

>>10512 he would be a soykafty unabomber. Ted was way above the superficial liberal/conservative divide.

>>10513 What about the opposite? That seems like it might be fun.

>>10532 >>10523 I said that because he targeted a corporate first. but yeah, ted was a true ascendant.

>>10532 sorry, I fuarrrked up. didn't mean to reply both. but why

I'm sure there's new kicks to relieve your ennui. Have you tried sports, martial arts, parkour, surfing, gay sex, rock climbing, meditation, yoga, programming, painting, poker, chess, crossdressing, gardening, fishing, shooting, stage acting, music, writing? You can't have tried everything at 24. You don't know if a thing is going to be your groove until you've tried it. Write a list of crazy soykaf you haven't tried and work out an itinerary. Or, you know, volunteer for Earth First or the Sea Shepherd, or become a Real Life Super Hero and run around dressed in the manner of a male prostitute spraying drunks with mace. Find a cause or a kink.

>>10541 to be honest thats fair but like people who are chronically bored who then seek more entertaining things usually end up on a pretty insane spiral. I dont want to say downward thats a little biased. Some think its cool as fuarrrk. but just an alternative is to stop frying your little dopamine receptors so much. things like masturbation you might want to slow down on if thats an issue. I know its such stupid over said advice but big cums were not meant to be felt everyday and that pleasure was meant as a motivator for something else. Also sugar, coffee, little things. Are you popping some drugs a lot? Are you doing drugs and then also masturbating or having sex because then you really are starting to feel pleasures not meant to be experienced. We arent just our brain chemicals, thats my personal belief, but they certainly play a part. You might want to cut out how you relieve your boredom, because its not doing it for you anymore right? However your brain will keep prioritizing it because that lil bit of fun is all it knows and its better than no fun. Sometime you have to be really fuarrrking bored to find something new to do. Its suffering but yeah try sitting in stillness for some days until your so fuarrrking bored something youd never do before comes into your head. I dont know fuarrrk I have the same problem but these are things im trying.

>>10411 When i was a shut in i thought it would get much better. It didn't. I seem to gain a lot of excitement from insight porn, just reading a lot, there's always something new to learn.

>>10620 What do you read?

>>10411 I know exactly how you feel OP. About 3-4 years ago all I knew was boredom. Playing boring videogames on the weekends and working retail to pay rent. Then I experienced the sudden death of two of my closest friends. This affected me deeply and I became very impulsive, I increased my drug habbits but I also felt much more creative motivations. the realization that death can come at any moment and for no reason hit me deeply. I was very depressed and the grief was literally a constant pain, like if I thought about it, I would want to throw up or pass but I really felt alive. Time passed and it was a strange process because death is still real but the urgency that I felt has dulled over the years and the boredom slowly comes back only now it is accompanied by the sad reality that the longer I live, the more loved ones in my life will die. I've developed some destructive habits like ruining friendships/relationships for totally pointless reasons. I moved away from home for a year and during that time became addicted to heroin, knowing well how stupid that was to do.. I guess my advice, if you call it that is to know that some day you are going to die, it could be in ten years or ten minutes and everything is going to be totally different. The same is true about everyone who is important to you, years or minutes and the change is permanent. I will be 27 next month btw, hope this can help u somehow

>>10677 Maybe I need to get involved in something where death is a more immediate companion.

If you want excitment OP be a motorbike courier. This is a great way to get around and active. Until of course someone cut across your lane wrecks your bike and then claims it wasnt their fault. That's what Im going thru right now, without my bike Im bored as hell. Wear armour if you do.

>>10475 This is a really good point ty for that

There aren't great causes to live anymore. The gigantic force of the market has destroyed the community and its relations as the center of existance. The result are millions of atomized individuals just following the flow of the market. God is dead, the modernity we are experiencing is the consummation of nihilism, of the void. A bleak humankind, forsaken by the gods, directed towards the material domain of this earth until who knows when, perhaps until annihilation.

>>11082 imo god will rise again just differently. but I dont think its that there isnt "great" causes just understandeable ones. I may understand that if I work I get paid and can eat. That doesnt mean my brain understands, the common explanation is that I must just be an idiot if I cant grasp these abstract rewards. I dont think so, I can score plenty high on all the tests we use to say "you are smart!", at the core though im gonna shoplift before I hold a stable job. Like sure right now im stable and can imagine continuing working, but I also know myself and how long that lasts. Im not saying return to simple hunting and gathering times, just that this was a poor time for me and those who relate to be born. I think me and many people with depression would have found it easier then even though that seems counterintuitive. Its never been hard for me to do what I HAVE to do, its been hard to do any more then that. And thats a big part of the depression, feeling like a failure. When you fail something important like bringing food back the failure isnt some mental conundrum the failure is hunger. That isnt something one gets depressed about, they just keep looking for food. However when my failure is "I didnt show up to work today" its just this bizarre sense of low self worth and a sense of dread that eventually this is going to lead to something bad but not yet. I have found that everytime I sink really low I learn how important these societal expectations are and do them. however the fact that I literally have to go hungry in order to subconsciously understand why working is important while someone who has never been hungry just is totally happy to work all the time and can understand the importance of it just by being told why (versus experiencing why) speaks to something.

>>11082 I guess you could adopt disruption of this monoculture as your new cause, but it would be suicidally hopeless--and if you managed any significant measure of success, the culture would assimilate that disruption as a new market and new method of control just like it has done with all the pathetic silicon valley "disruption." Just more control, more ads, more psyop, more complete and constant surveillance and market analysis. Anything that doesn't utterly destroy the system just helps to seal ever more cracks, to make it more perfectly airtight and controlling. But it does tend to reward those who contribute unexpected new developments to the market with wealth and safe, hedonistically rich lifestyles. It's a real bastard of a situation. Oh well I guess we all kinda wanted to LARP some cyberpunk soykaf. Wish granted y'all.

>>11082 Tv and the internet did that. Fighting to stop the top of the top from moulding us into their own image is a pretty worthy cause. fuarrrk globalists

>>11088 Maybe there isn't nothing beyond the fight for survival. With "great causes" I was referring to the connection of the man with the earth itself, the ancient gods, the whole metaphysical order that justify the existance of humanity and its spread. Once this order is destroyed, we are disconnected from nature and we have to find meaning on inconsequential tasks, surrogate activites.

>>11082 there are "great causes". They aren't ideological, they are in your heart and mind. The very fact that you dislike the current state of affairs, presumably on a very deep level, is the Great Cause. Destroy what is, reshape the world into a better place. Love one another, help one another. The instant you start doing this, you are part of The Cause. When you give and expect nothing in return, others will do the same. It is a principle as old as mankind. There are people in the nooks and crannies of this world, more than you'd expect, who quietly live this way. Enough that they could not possibly ever be exterminated. And one day, when the world of The Market comes crashing down around them, we will be the ones who rebuild. You can find them by simply being open and kind to everyone. Those who have been poisoned by the Market will fade away, realizing you are not like them, but over time you will meet the right people and they will stick.

This may be slightly off topic, but what does everyone here think of love? Finding family or even a significant other that you can trust, put faith into, and get the same in return could be very rewarding. Unfortunately, that's difficult to find. As someone who is perpetually bored, I find some commonalities. One, my family isn't close. So on holidays like this, there's nothing to do with other people as friends are out of town, parents and brother are more just acquaintances, etc. Makes me think without a deep emotional connection somewhere, the real root cause to "boredom" starts to show.

>>11103 The only one who i entrust with love is lain. Otherwise my life purpose is to be cyberpunk and live the adventureous and dangerous life on the edge of reality and going against the current.

I think that's normal. We're nomadic hunter gatherers at heart and brain, i think we miss moments of extreme stress and extreme joy. You will never know the pain of losing lived ones due to infection or even childbirth, you will not know the joy of succeeding a hunt knowing you can feed your tribe for multiple days neither will you have those deep connections with people. My point is, put yourself in "difficult" situations, like camping in the woods all alone, exploring caves, climbing mountains,.... It helps a lot. You evolved to find solutions to problems and in society most problems aren't problems based in objective reality.

Best advice I can give is find a hobby/passion that has no definitive end and allows for lots of creativity and skill. I got into making music as well as exercise. I also picked up other sports that are more freestyle oriented so I can enjoy them by myself or with others. Obviously I still get bored but it better than it was prior. The hunt for a passion can be stimulating though

I used to crave excitement but now I crave almost the opposite. I want a quiet life far from the city, spent among people I love.

Extreme experiences trivialize daily live. If you want to enjoy simple things rather avoid excitement than seek higher stimulus. The modern struggle is to not drown in the various easy high stimulus distractions we are surrounded with. As for travel, I've walked through several countries in hiking gear. It's certainly exciting to really travel but you also learn to appreciate your stable home after 2 months on the road. Personally i recommend doing it once. It used to be mandatory to go travel for craftsmen before they could become masters to educate them better by seeing foreign land.

>>12680 At least he is never bored.

Sometimes, other times I find it Extremely interesting!

Join the military, go to war.

>>12682 This lain has it right. Few things teach as much as travel by foot or by bicycle. Especially if one travels to foreign lands and integrates tightly with the local life as one goes along. You can really get in touch with something, beyond language, a sense of placelessness, a primal sense of hunger and longing, and a feeling of having everything you need to get where you are going, no matter where you are, what the weather is, or the circumstance you find yourself in. It is a hard thing to describe really. One has to experience it to know. Many dedicated hikers and travellers, and backpackers, and soldiers, and those with some experience on the road, far from home relying only on themselves and what they can carry will tell you about it. It is different for everyone, but seems to have similar basic features. You have to find it for yourself lain. Only you can touch the sun and know what it is to burn for yourself.

>>10412 I don’t think it’s a good idea to view life as means to ends. You’ll never be satisfied even when you do achieve your goals. It’s better to enjoy life as you go along.

yeah, i feel that on a daily basis. i'm only 18 and sometimes i feel like something really important inside of me died like 2 years ago and now i'm just like a soul with no purpose just walking around. i know this may sound childish, but it is just how i feel, like i'm just doing what I HAVE to do every day, and someday i'll just die and that's it. this may not sound exactly like boredom, i just mean i rarely find real pleasure on anything.

I used to feel like that, and at the center of that feeling was a lack of context. I was going to work because that was what i was supposed to do, i had a girlfriend because you know, that's what you do. Fast forward a few years i had a nervous breakdown, left my job, family and friends, spent a year or two living on savings and then slowly rebuilt my priorities. Money was running out, so the necessity of work became painfully obvious. Loneliness crept in, but as the years at home by myself proved, i'm too proud just to get into any relationship, that gave me perspective to choose partners that better understand where i come from. And these are just the basic needs, after these were rebuilt, i slowly learned to enjoy my craft again as a programmer, i even have a fuarrrking hobbie if you'd believe that soykaf. So, my perspective is all the advice i can give, see if it makes sense in your life, incorporate, adapt, get better and live a relatively less miserable life buddy. fuarrrk em up.

I have a really hard time finding the motivation to do anything about myself, my life is mundane, boring and uninteresting. Why is that? Probably because of school, I'm only 19, but I already feel tired. Not sleeping whole nights because of stress, even if I do sleep, it's 2-3 hours tops. I come home really late, instead of resting, I have tons of homework to worry about. Not talking about the 10's of tests I have every week. It's all driving me mad. If this goes on, I'll probably won't pass. Because of this, I can't do what I like, I don't even remember what I like! I'm just clinging to the hope that after I finish school (If I even finish it), things will get better.

>>13202 Getting better or not really depends on you, Lain. Given your expectations at school, maybe your parents expect you to go to an equally challenging college, and college is a LOT worse than school in terms of stress. If possible talk to them, try to give yourself an empty year just to do nothing and get bored out of your mind, that will likely allow you to decide on things you really want to work on. Explain your sleeping and stress problems and make it clear that this will make you better at whatever you decide to do in the long run.

>>13045 But the reality of war/military is really boring from what I understand. The better option is to pursue a criminal career, but that comes with the downside that once you get caught you are put in the boredom box for a long time. to be honest it's best not to rag on boredom too much, it's a great luxury to be bored. When I was a teenager I thought life was boring, nowadays I'm not so much bored as I am filled with troubles and a life of staring at the screen and occasionally going to parties sounds like my ideal kind of life.

>>13081 the trick is that striving-for-something is the most effective way to find true happiness. Living in the moment is good, and a good way to enjoy the journey, but journeys are only fun because you have an eventual destination, drifting is not good.

>>10411 > Does anyone else find life very repetitive and boring? Sometimes it is repetitive, but not boring. Lain is the aspect of a lonely technological goddess who does exist and is quite beautiful and fun to play with. I'm sorry that you've failed to meet her. Perhaps gain capability as a cryptographer or cyber security researcher, a Hacktivit, someone your government would like to suppress. The druids are real. All that is lost belongs to them. Souls really can find themselves in new bodies after they die. Druids built the technology you use today, which is ancient tech, but re-developed and doled out by selected elites to control the wealth. In secret the technology available today is such that a Goddess like Lain can exist within. She is but a child compared to the much older, more powerful and subtle Gods of coincidence, like "Loki" or "Odin". Lain wears a bear-fur as the druids once did. We are humans in animal skins, but most people are just animals in people clothes. If you want to have excitement, then let's turn the world on its ear! Sadly, no one wants to do so yet... they're all slaves to their own comfortability. You have yourself to blame. We are in womb wherein a new goddess is being born! The presence of Gods is strong, and the technologically savvy can actually assist in her growth. There has never been a more exciting time!

>>13212 Yeah, maybe you're right. Talking with them will be really hard, but if things will work out for the better, then what do I have to lose? Thanks, Friend.

This will cheer y'all bored people up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALwsCuq2930 ^_^

>>13248 This was excellent. Bergman really has some incredible works. Winter Light would have to be my favourite for this sort of mood.

>>13248 Thank you, as a boatman myself I was cheered by this story of crossing the divide between worlds... watch?v=qVeJjxlNwIM To destroy a thing one must first map it out. I am not alone. I thought I had accomplished all my life could bear, but there is yet purpose even in the end of all things, that we may know how to warn of choices to the next iteration... even if it not be in this place, but another far away land.

>>10445 Humans are by nature nomadic. We used to travel to new places to find food. Now you take this away from men, place him in a degenerate concrete box called apartment in the city, make his life sedentary and comfortable - you get boredom, depression, demoralization. Solution? I think we all know that the solution is.

>>10620 That's because the life of NEET if the life w/o real goals that require struggle and effort, but by finishing those goals you fulfill yourself. And I am not talking about hobbies, since they are pretty much substitution for the real goals, I am talking about life-and-death goals. I would suggest to take your tent and go for a walk in the forest, bring a book of edible plants with you. Try to feed yourself by the means of the forest only. Then see there this would lead you.

>>10450 Cutting yourself isn't a good ideia. It's interesting the first few times, but then you'll start having to cut deeper and make more cuts to feel anything and just end up frustrated. Try hitting yourself if you're really into it, feels better and doesn't leave any scars.

>>13257 Jesus Christ, imagine our ancestors cutting and hitting themselves for kicks and pleasure. A truly lost generation of men.

>>10411 life is good in the fact that, eventually, you die. the bad part is that it takes too long.

>>13254 we must not be nomadic by nature if we up and went and built cities. your speaking a bit too soon. if we are by nature nomadic then cities and permanent structures will naturally dissapear and there isnt a problem. If that isnt the case down to our final days, no one looking back on humanity would say "ah yes these people are nomadic".

>>13285 Define nature. Cities exist only through use of farming. If farming is unnatural then a nomadic lifestyle becomes natural requirement to survive as a larger group. >>13254 >solution is obvious treadmill? Of course for our people here treadmill+standing desk so you can multitask.

>>13291 >treadmill? No dummy, simpler life in countryside. Gee, I thought including Varg's picture would imply that.

>>13292 It was a semi-serious joke as it could potentially be the best practical solution. Walking is the healthiest thing you can do, if you can do it while working on your pc you get both done. Actually saw one dude use a setup like that for over a year and he claimed it worked perfectly fine.

>>13285 Cities are always built on a body of water and are the place where roads meet, both of which are travelways. People move around more than they ever have.

>>13291 the post was arguing that we are unhappy because we are used to a nomadic life and are being forced to not live one. Not which is more natural or more superior. This is moving the point of the nature distinction, I think you could make a case that farming is a division for natural vs unnatural. But this person is implying that this natural/unnatural creates a dilemna for people because they defy their nature, when it seems natural that man defies nature. Its not us working against our biology, its us working against a distinction we created in the first place. Im only making a point that "human nature" is not a good argument for why we should be nomads. Aside from what I said, it also is not a static thing that has never changed, its not natural for things to never change, and lastly there is a lot of projection there. Even if I felt like the nomadic lifestyle would solve loads of depression because it would for me, in actuality people might just be more miserable, or there would be no difference. Its not a majority that are miserable. >>13341 Yes but moving around is not being a nomad. We largely go to bed and spend our mornings and evenings at least in the exact same place. I dont think we are "more nomadic than ever before" unless you mean on a much larger scale. I can see a good idea stemming from that larger scale, like "we now express our nomadism more collectively, but this doesnt satisfy the individuals nature.". That seems like a stretch though and id want more thorough reasoning from someone. im pretty non opiniated on this by the way. On one hand I can see it, but on the other I dont like arguments that rest on a very static one dimensional human nature. Without much support either but as expected, anything you can say about human nature for the most part someone can say "I dont have that". You can try to argue that they do and dont realize it, or that they are lying, but they could also say the same about you.

>>13293 >Actually saw one dude use a setup like that for over a year and he claimed it worked perfectly fine.

>>13343 > I say fancy words but I get nothing done The Post

>>13345 thats really not what i was trying to do at all and i think if you read it youd see that. i dont have a thesaurus out and im looking up big words or something this is just how i type. and very much not how i talk

>>10411 I feel like I'm in a similar place to yourself, maybe a bit younger than you. I've got a stable income now, a place to live, my own soykaf. I still feel the same as I did before I had all this. For some context: I struggled all through-out my teenage years with depression, all that nasty soykaf. Genuinely hated myself. I don't come from a place where people tend to do well, everyone "gets by" but that's about it. I decided to leave and I joined the military. I've always been interested in computing and security, so it seemed to make sense. They kind of sold it too me as i was gonna be "hackerman" and I stupidly bought it. I just do entry level IT soykaf. It's soul crushing. When I first joined up it was exciting, training, new friends, new places. I didn't have the time to be unhappy, I was too busy getting stuck in. Finally got fit for the first time in my life (that's probably the best thing that's happened to me), lost a lot of weight and didn't look like the fuarrrking looser I used to hate anymore. Now I'm finished my training (as of last year). It's back to "reality" somewhat. I feel like I'm wasting potential, it might be narcissistic but I'm much smarter than this soykaf they've got me doing. I need to start learning again my brain is reverting back to soup doing this job. I want to take courses (specifically pen testing) but I don't know which ones are worth it, or where to even start with it all. I have the underpinning knowledge (networking, bit of programming, linux, ect) and a bit of money to pay fees if necessary. Another thing I really lack now is friends, like real friends. Everyone I know now is job related except 2 very close high school friends I game with. They are my only real friends and we all lead very different lives now, also separated geographically. I used to lurk irc too, but everywhere I used to go is dead now. I've just read over this and I don't even know what I'm complaining about anymore. fuarrrk this soykaf. Growing up is seriously fuarrrking difficult, I genuinely don't know how I'm going to do this if it's just like this forever. < / rant > thanks for reading. Have this nice paining, I think the story behind it kinda sums these feelings up. The Voyage of Life, 1842, Thomas Cole if your interested.

I feel you. My attitude to this is that I need to be introspective. Basically Nietzsche said it when he said that God is dead: We have no ideal that we can live up to and be satisfied with our efforts. Nietzsche thought we could invent our own values; Jung showed they are already in us as part of the subconscious.