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Most attractive girls aren't into computer nerds not simply because of the hobby itself , its the lifestyle it brings to your physical appearance and mannerisms and the you handle yourself in public space. To look like this , be outdoors and know your way around a computer , to build , solder , program and run a uncompromised based system at the same time. Is the ultimate , its more attractive than simply looking like some meat head. this is it. the pinnacle. A high efficient physical body with high intellect to face the wired.

zyzz was drugged to the gills and died young and childless. Most people will ever look like him with or without drugs. Good to be fit this guy is just not a good role model at all.

>>102206 Not everyone has a heart defect. Plus we don't need t cycles when we have peptides and more research

>>102206 he probably got more young shut-ins into fitness than anyone else besides Scooby

Some girls find visible muscles a turn off. Keep that in mind. There isnt one type of guy they are all looking for.

>>102233 I agree , but the biggest turn off is guys who show off their muscles constantly and feel a need too, Low IQ Move in my opinion.

What was the motivation behind this post? Are you projecting an image you want to portray or do you actually mean what you're saying because it worked out for you? To be fair, I agree with the general idea: computer hobbies by themselves are not the issue, rather comes with it most of the time. However I would argue that you don't need to be "fit" in the bodybuilding sense, just take care of yourself, do exercise and try to improve, but why waste your time on building a gym physique that's not even useful? You're referring to "attractive girls", what do you even mean by that? If you're just trying to appeal to physically attractive girls with no personality that might be enough, but if you actually want a proper relationship looks are not the deciding factor. They are the first thing someone notices about you, but they can hardly express your personality, motivations and inner workings. Yes, do go outdoors, be active physically and mentally, but not in the aim of being "Mr. Fit Genius", rather for the sake of your personal development, where you will inevitably meet people along the way.

>>102260 the intention behind the post is to push red p​ill / pua content on lainchan and astroturf a culture shift away from what made it good in the first place. Unfortunately, it has been ongoing for the past 5 years or more with no intentions of stopping.

>>102260 >if you actually want a proper relationship these guys just want sex, and maybe some physical contact actually, they don't even want that. they want porn but irl and the idealized version of physical contact spread by media because relationships take effort, real life sex takes effort because you're supposed to reciprocate, and these guys are lazy. there is nothing wrong with being lazy, but it's funny to me that now we are supposed to take the "I want an anime gf" statement as a serious thing >meet people along the way but doctor, I only care about myself! I keep meeting people and I have ZERO interest in whatever they may do or say! more seriously, we live under capitalism, every man for himself, things are becoming dire and so the instinctive reaction is to stick to what is proven to work: egoism. like, if you ask these people what personality they would like to have, or what mentality they are working towards, they will straight up tell you that they want to become sociopaths; they don't want to help anyone, they don't want to do anything good for other people, they don't want to change anything but themselves, etc.

>>102260 >but they can hardly express your personality I'd agree, but it can kinda point to what kind of person you are, only vaguely. >>102271 >they want porn but irl and the idealized version of physical contact spread by media This is retarded. Stop watching doomslop online and go actually talk to a guy in real life, glitterboy. >we live under capitalism Of course this retard immediately takes the chance to talk about capitalism. Go fuarrrk off to China, bitch. >they don't want to help anyone Go talk to a human in real life.

>>102273 >Go fuarrrk off to China, bitch can you get me a z visa pls, I'll do literally anything

>>102263 >>102260 OP Here , my motivation was to discuss ways of having a healthy balance of computers and the real world and how it relates to a healthy physical body to use to interface with the world at more than optimal levels, clear cognition , strength in physical , book smart and can still use a drill. Also just sharing my opinion of the ultimate "nerd" and to not be forever alone. Motivation as well to encourage this healthy balance, as well as to discuss opinion.

>>102284 I also wanted to add that I used to be chronically online and spent years chasing pixel skillcapes that only live in the wired. Spent over a year now balancing and gym and my life has changed in ways I felt empty and guilty of like my fitness , health , bad gfs of past , no friends and boring life.

>>102284 and so you proceed to post pics of bodybuilders instead of regular looking healthy bodies I don't buy it, I agree with the other anon that called you out on spreading pua and looksmaxxing garbage - which, btw, is the mainstream nowadays. if you want that type of content you can go to literally every other platform on the internet. why do you people have to spread your psyops everywhere? >>>/hum/102273 I talk with plenty of real people in the real world, but we are talking about incels and other pua-adjacent groups. I assume you're part of one of those and that's why my remarks hurt your feelings. lets see >glitterboy yeah, the only people that use this as an insult are chuds not to mention the word filter, and that attitude of not acknowledging your environment and only focusing on changing yourself is precisely what I described

You don't need to be super muscular to be attractive, but you do need a basic level of physical development. The "dadbod" is often seen as an ideal by straight women, especially if you're over 30. You don't need a six pack, but you do need a strong core. Things like this. It is unfortunate that even this modest level of physical development is so difficult to achieve for some people. I think if you weren't active as a teenager, for instance being forced to do school sports or something, you're sort of handicapped for life when it comes to musculature. Not only because it's harder to start from zero, but you just don't have those associations made in your nervous system on how to use your body effectively and how to push yourself.

>>102300 this seems overly fatalistic; you can just do things. training doesn't have to be painful, most of the time it shouldn't be. pain doesn't equate gains, and usually it is just your body telling you that you're hurting yourself I don't know why imageboard users see this as some big monumental feat. literally just run 30 minutes every other day and don't overeat. you don't have to torture yourself, this isn't some big herculean task, nor a personality trait or some big accomplishment. the average person already does this

>>102301 What's fatalistic about it? Starting from zero and having no experience is harder than starting from 1 and having experience. It's a simple fact. Nowhere did I mention pain; in fact, a lot of being competent at training is knowing to avoid certain pain and stop if you're about to injure yourself. >the average person already does this nope

>>102295 If this is your coping mechanism for avoiding fitness bravo to you lainon >spread psyops yeah because any physical fitness promotion is a psyop amirite.

>>102303 Newbie gains starting at 0 from literally doing small soykaf is insane , you should try it

>>102306 I'm not starting from 0, I was pretty fit in high school from swimming and I ride my bike 20 miles or so a week. Not so long ago I did a bodyweight exercise routine as well but I tweaked my shoulder and had to stop.

>body builders >physical fitness they have the life expectancy of subsistence farmers

>>102304 you're looking for >>/drg/ except without any of the fun

>>102300 dadbod is not seen as ideal by straight women, they just settle for it because ~98% of people are too addicted to goyslop to ever get rid of that excess fat. In fact they get instantly and deeply aroused when they get in contact with somebody who has the amount of muscles those people on the picture have, but with 15kg less fat. Bodybuilder sized muscles are not that attractive for them but being athletic and fit is.

Looksmaxxers are the most annoying thing that has ever come out of social media They go door to door across the entire Internet and argue like greasy dishonest salespeople

>>102323 Say you're a hideous incel more clearly for the audience

>>102308 Just because a bodybuilder used roids and over did his body doesn't mean physical fitness is going to short yourself from life. Its actually the opposite , being physical fit and naturally toned.

>>102383 i don't think anyone is arguing that, it is the use of roids that is life threatening and the weird male-gaze related to it that convinces people that being a bodybuilder is more useful than just being naturally fit. Most members of forces of Delta in the US army are 5'8 and look like an English teacher, but what is actually attractive to women may be a different ideal. This is why we should not put value on what women think (jk but not really)

>>102304 >>102383 People who push this kind of lookism brainrot always try to pull this switch. Make a thread saying looking like Zyzz is "the ultimate" and then play dumb and act like all you said was that fitness is good for you

>>102393 >and look like an english teacher [not like zyzz] A fair comparison is going to require them both to be dressed or undressed to the same degree. You can't compare fyzzyks when one guy is wearing not just a t shirt but a jacket over his t shirt. I doubt vining looks like zyzz, but I'm sure he's a lot less fat than my highschool english teacher, who wasn't even fat by american standards.

>>102395 Cope harder guy. Being a chiseled weirdo isn't being fit.

>>102331 >anyone who isn't a looksmaxxer is an ugly incel the fuarrrking irony lmao, you're entirely projecting your own insecurities you do understand that guys who are attractive or naturally confident don't need to "looksmax," right? might as well just call looksmaxxers the "ugly and touchless cope club"

>>102322 >dadbod is not seen as ideal by straight women It kind of is, although the people in that picture are a bit pudgy for the 'true dadbod' that would be seen as ideal. Past a certain age, women tend to value vigorous maturity over youth. You can try to hold on to the muscles you had (or could have had) when you were 17, but it's usually a losing battle. Same how a woman's breasts don't necessarily get worse as she ages, but you have to appreciate them differently.

>>102399 >being a chiseled weirdo isnt being /fit/ All I'm saying is that your photo of Mike Vining is not at all a fair comparison. Zyzz runs around as close to nude as he can, because if he was wearing a t-shirt and jeans he'd just look like a normal guy with a funny hairdoo. I don't know what peak vining looked like shirtless, I very much doubt he'd be bodybuilder lean, but its not comparable to look at a guy in a shirt and a jacket against a guy who's literally flexing and posing as a body builder.

>>102300 You will not demoralize me, silly bot. You can't claim that all members of group X (women) like Y characteristic, because I can easily find examples of members of that group who don't like Y. And before you say, "obviously I didn't mean all, I meant most members of X", how exactly do you quantify that? What is your sample size? First, you need to quantify how many straight women there are, so you need to interview half of the Earth's population. But let's reduce to just half of the US population to make it easier. We also have to narrow it down to specific age ranges. Let's say 20-40. The biggest percentage of them will say they're straight, but some of them may be lying. And when asked about preference, don't you think most of them will pick what is socially "acceptable" even if the study is anonymous because of shame? Don't you think many will refrain from the study? Additionally, for a massive population a properly randomized sample of 1500 people typically gives a 3% margin of error at a 95% confidence interval. Obviously you will not parade around every state and interview each of them, you will gather participants from Twitter, Reddit, etc but do you really think these reflect the general population? Also, do you really think most of them will be real women, or could there also be trannies and bots such as yourself? And let's not even get to questions worded in a way that influences bias.

>>102424 And why do so many AI images have that brownish filter? Is it because whatever an AI spits is garbage?

>doing anything to attract the attention of anyone Your mistake begins here. Masculinity is directly attached to not giving a rat's ass about external expectations. What chicks actually dig is the zero fuarrrks given attitude, wits and treats, but it becomes a paradox if you keep this in mind like a drooling Pavlov dog. You have to really just start living your own life and stop validating the "female selector" psyop. You are the natural selector, male primate, so start acting accordingly. If you do literally anything for pussy you have already lost the one thing that would make you shine as a dude. You won't be a decent weightlifter, you won't be an actual money maker, you'll be just a beggar, like more than probably 70% of men out there, who, for that matter, are getting no pussy, because they are too busy trying to get pussy. Guess what, I have never in my entire life fuarrrked more pussy than when I was in bottom-deep alcoholism, a complete fuarrrk up who skipped 3 days of shower, didn't groom or brush teeth at all. I was disgusting, the rented apartment I lived in was disgusting. And I was fuarrrking every 15 days or so. As soon as I started getting my soykaf together, working out, got a job, started college, et cetera, *poof*, ZERO pussy in my life. Just start "trying" with your attention oriented to women and your desert will be drier than ever. Not even joking, bros, this is ancestral knowledge. It's a torture to live like that if you're a man. Just chill the fuarrrk out.

>>102427 I was also a heavy alcoholist with no body hygiene and i got zero bagina. Please tell us how did you manage to get it while being drunk and dirty-smelly with no money. Maybe my problem was that i was drinking because i was sad in the first place?

>>102427 > fuarrrked more pussy than when I was in bottom-deep alcoholism, a complete fuarrrk up who skipped 3 days of shower, didn't groom or brush teeth at all. I was disgusting, the rented apartment I lived in was disgusting I think a big point to make as well as the quality of the type of pussy you fuarrrk and get is different depending on yourself. No one half decent wants to actually be live and love someone so disgusting that doesn't take showers.

>"self improvement" >immediately devolves into pua slop called it again, you won, the entire internet belongs to you and people that think exactly like you, why do you have to come here

>>102435 >Please tell us how did you manage to get it while being drunk and dirty-smelly with no money It was not the 2020s and I was a metalhead. Also Facebook helped at the time. I posed as some kind of dark edgy romantic poet and all that, I used to spend nights in bars getting loaded, mostly with borrowed money, lmao. I was a real piece of soykaf. >Maybe my problem was that i was drinking because i was sad in the first place? I was drinking because I was angry. Different flavors of alchies. >>102435 > the quality of the type of pussy you fuarrrk and get is different depending on yourself Had both bad and good. None was good in terms of decency of course, I'm talking about body. I was in it for the score and the quantity. fuarrrked a married MILF at the time as well, she was hot. In my defense, I found out she was married weeks after it. This was one of the things that made me want to regenerate myself. >No one half decent wants to actually be live and love someone so disgusting that doesn't take showers. Love? Yeah I guess that's the main problem with you guys. There's instinct and there is actual relationships, which are based on very different things from pure sex drive. I noticed that many women (I don't know about the majority of them) had a drive for problematic, depraved soykaf. My point is, you guys are trying to find patterns to scopes that are simply impossible to apply. All of this revolves on fantasy and expectation, so you let the other fantasize while you aim for the objective things. That's what many women do, and that's what you guys should as well. Self improvement is good and all, for the individual, but self improvement to get mates or meet women is PURE retardation. It's the most naive soykaf ever. There are many women out there that got the jollies for very very bad stuff. Degrading, disgusting, wrong stuff. Some of them pose as christian trad girls, some of them are pretty obvious about this. This is also why I think it's sad to see a bunch of dudes unironically discussing how to get le pusi by getting better. No, man. Get better because you love yourself, please.

>>102424 >You will not demoralize me, silly bot. Sorry. You're allowed to feel like you'll never attain a desirable body without taking crazy steroids. Don't let me stop you. >You can't claim that all members of group X (women) like Y characteristic, because I can easily find examples of members of that group who don't like Y. I never did. Note the word "often" in the second sentence. Note also I never said "most". >how exactly do you quantify that? I don't think I really have any obligation to do so. If you care so much, you can look for some solid numbers yourself. >so you need to interview half of the Earth's population you start talking about stats and then immediately say something that betrays you know nothing at all about stats. >The biggest percentage of them will say they're straight, but some of them may be lying. >don't you think most of them will pick what is socially "acceptable" even if the study is anonymous because of shame? >Obviously you will not parade around every state and interview each of them, you will gather participants from Twitter, Reddit, etc but do you really think these reflect the general population? > do you really think most of them will be real women > let's not even get to questions worded in a way that influences bias. Have you considered that maybe your beliefs about reality is just an illusion created by a powerful demon? Therefore stats are fake and you should trust your gut instinct. It's the only way to be sure.

>>102436 I heard that bitches want to fuarrrk dead guys the most. Maybe OP and his buddies should kill themselves so some 10/10 can fuarrrk on their corpse

>>102475 "is that rigor mortis, or are you just happy to see me?"

>>102436 the irony of a pua-lifestyle is that their entire lives revolves around women

>>102424 >You can't claim that all members of group X (women) like Y characteristic But if we are looking at things in a way of what would women be more willing to mate with in a sense of going back thousands of years ago. They want someone strong , can defend themselves and can carry big rock

>people crying about an over the top zyzz example >OP making a point that being fit , healthy and interesting whilst also being a computer nerd is attractive to a large populous of women No Zyzz wasn't a programmer or anything on the side or had really interesting hobbies besides trolling on social media , the gym and going to raves although he was younger than most of us here when he died so he didn't get a chance to expand/mature much. Combination of being fit and healthy with gains plus being a computer nerd is more attractive than just the computer nerd and more attractive than just the fit meat head

It's a shame that lifting has a bad rep in the nerdy community due to negative preconceptions. Do they really think a nerd turns into a roiding meat-head as soon as he (or she) touches a knurled barbell? Nerds are usually smart about the way they lift and will gain the benefits (more strength, higher bone density, more resilience against back issues, better insulin response, nice buns, etc.) while avoiding potential downsides (injury from ego-lifting, injury from not understanding how the safeties are supposed to work, visiting snap-city due to doing something dumb, getting high voices and tiny testis from abusing PEDs, etc). Protip: Anime intro music compilations are great for getting pumped up for a lifting session. Just don't tell any normal people about it.

ffs why is this thread still up. you could have posted a /fit/ guide poster, couch to 5k or smth as a pic at least. "Naaaah ima post the pic i last donated cum to with this vaguepost" stfu. Next time use a more inspiring figure than some psycho looking nobody.

>>102502 The problem is that all of this is framed in terms of finding a gf and getting female attention through male homosocial behaviors which the better portion of us who either have girlfriends or are women ourselves* don't give a soykaf about. I'm not interested in discussion with or about men who "can't get laid' as if i were an object to be required disrespectfully. The entire clique breakdown about nerds, which is an identity that was manufactured by cheesy teen dramas, is sad and boring as well.

>>102510 /fit/ won't fit your soykafty (lack of) personality. there, you got the meta, go nuts fuarrrkwits.

>>102439 The difference is that probably you weren't ugly. It's over for uglycels.

>>102502 I've met a number of nerdy people who've gone on steroids/trt/stuff in pursuit of success in the gym. At least one of these had definite medical issues arising from such drug use. Exercise and fitness are good. You should go into these with some goal like getting good at a sport/activity or martial art or something, rather than x-maxing. Its easy for nerdy types to become fixated on lifting the greatest weight or something like that, where the solution is either steroids or hydraulics, or looksmaxing where you're going to either start injecting oil to make your muscles look bigger, or get so lean you're budgeting your water, or just getting plastic surgeries or whatever. People do all these things. Powerlifters are some of the least fit people I've ever dealt with in terms of walking down the street let alone walking briskly down the street. They get really good at three specific lifting motions and that's about it. If you stay grounded in something that still lets you improve and forces you to be active, but is a little less specific you can generally be safe from these perverse specializations.

>>102522 >you weren't ugly I don't think I'm ugly, but I've never been a handsome chad either. Always been a schizotypal manlet nevertheless. But hey, I've seen tons of ugly fuarrrks scoring with girls "above their league". Maybe most of you guys are from a harsh region for seggs.

>>102300 these are probably gay guys from the bear gay tribe

>>102538 Thank you but i think i will go into the opposite direction

>>102540 >still grows tits because he can't understand hormones :)

>>102540 bro is unironically doing the jreg mtM thing skull emoji

>>102542 based based based based based based based whoah

I'm proud of not caring at all about females despite not being asexual and choosing to do whatever makes me happy. Relationships by itself and all the drama around are enough reason to not wanting anything at all.

>>102526 Yeah I agree with this , Ive just started getting into Muay Thai in the last month and its been great. Can't motivate myself to go to the gym on its own , I can go to the gym if it improves my Muay Thai. 2/3 Days a week training , 2/3 Weights and lifting. I was considering Jujutsu but I hate ground and rolling with people , Karate and Taek wan doe is drills and point based fights which is fuarrrking lame. Muay Thai is fun if you like UFC and want to actually win a street fight plus you make friends and meet people

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>>102257 It's the male equivalent of girls wearing ill-fitting athletic gear: Appears performative and associated with promiscuity. >>102616 >Not choosing the superior film I don't think OP gets it. You can have brains and brawn and still be an insufferable cunt. Look at the zucc and other tech bros who have gotten into fitness and started lifting like being able to bench 200kg is going to fix their personalities. As someone who is in good shape and also well educated, I often get mistaken for those types of man children who can't comprehend that women are humans too. inb4 it's performative, I have a medical condition and if I don't stay in shape, I would literally die. I actually hate working out

>>102621 post your gains lainon

>>102203 Everyone in this thread is overthinking it. Just diet and lose weight until you have a six-pack, and maintain reasonable full-body strength and solid cardio. That's it. Simple, but hard. Show me a woman who says she doesn't find a six-pack attractive, and I will show you a liar. Also yeah, don't do any steroids or TRT. Not only does it defeat every purpose of working out (looks, strength, discipline, health. I could expand on these four points for the curious), but it also makes you eternally dependent on the system to maintain your strength. Probably why the US military is trying to get all their boys on TRT. But yeah, just get a six-pack.

>>102526 Ah come one. When I speak of "nerdy" types I think of people with at least above average intelligence and those would NEVER be so dumb to inject oils into muscles. These Synthol balloons don't look or move like real muscles and it's as idiotic as getting muscle implants as it NEVER looks as good as the real thing that was earned by keeping up with lifting. It takes a real pea-brain (and probably a heaping portion of narcissism) to be able to lie to themselves like that or thinking these fake bulges look good.

>>102621 >Look at the zucc He's such an embarrassing and evil cunt and the only thing I like about him is that he stayed loyal (or at least married) to his homely looking wife after getting rich. Everything else about him is awful. It's a shame that lifting couldn't fix him but I guess the rot is too deep.