Why is something as pseudoscientific and generally useless as "therapy" pushed so heavily nowadays?

As someone who was in and out of psych wards as an adolescent, as someone who's been to dozens and dozens of therapists, as someone with multiple complex conditions, how is talking to some clueless privileged user with a bullshit degree going to improve my material circumstances in any way? Why am I the bad guy for being against the psychiatric industrial complex? What real purpose does "therapy" serve in relation to neoliberal capitalism? Therapy, meds, self help, positive thinking, it's all just gaslighting. It's all based on the assumption that the prevailing conditions are reasonable and sound and you are maladaptive. There's no way to be healthy or sane in a world like this. Nobody gets "cured", at best they get brainwashed into thinking things are tolerable enough to be able to serve Capital and not cause problems. The only authentic reason to live under present conditions is to struggle to destroy these conditions.

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In one of Nietszche's books he talks about this but in the context of Christianity. Humans evolved to live at low population densities and men especially have to fight and struggle to survive. Many of these instincts are maladaptive at higher population densities and particularly for the majority of humanity that is now relegated to a labor slave class. So, there is a need for psychological techniques to deal with and redirect these emotions and thoughts to socially "productive" outlets. This is where the Christian rituals and their practice of confession come from. Since religion has been declining but the mindset and social organization remain mostly the same there was a need to develop new techniques. Now you have the set of techniques you mentioned, chief among them therapy and psychiatric drugs, whose purpose is to maintain the social order but mask themselves in concern for your well being.

>>101709 Hitler cried like a baby when his niece Geli Raubal died and became a strict vegetarian shortly after, believing it was "her wish." He also had only one testicle

>how is talking to some clueless privileged user with a bullshit degree going to improve my material circumstances in any way? fuarrrking exactly. I don't get it either. I advocate for therapy for anyone that just needs to talk to someone if they feel something wrong mentally, but if you're problem is that you're poor, it won't fix soykaf. You'll prolly feel *something*, but you just got a couple dollars poorer in the process. Worsening the actual problem. Therapy is for getting a mental diagnosis, following up with that diagnosis, or getting a reality check. Anything else is a scam. and fuarrrk that stoic, nietzschean, self-help bs. Delusion's no better than paying therapy for nothing.

>>101707 The only difference between a therapist and a good friend is that you pay the therapist and they generally give worse advice.

>>101749 Therapists can't prescribe medicine, you are thinking of psychiatrists.

Psychiatrists are totally superior to Psychologists, because the first is a hard science and the second is the biggest load of bullshit ever known to man

>>101707 You pretty much nailed it, one of things you overlooked however is that these kinds of people just cope themselfs by lying to themselfs into thinking therapy will fix the faulty world they live in. They just seek to convince themselfs that its all ok and fine when deep down they know its a lie and they just want you to acknowledge their own lie. The solution lies in strengthening their own delusions and drive them down further into the cliff of denial until they themselfs break down. After all these kinds of people produce only an even more unsustainable system where one day the floor will collapse on them. You cant fight agains these sorts of conditions, people are too weak mentally to acknowledge the truth, instead we should seek to make them lie to themselfs even harder until they have no concepts of truth any longer and will become deranged themselfs at which point they become true victims of their own system of denial and the doctors become the patients and the patients will be the doctors. >>101709 This right here too, the world has allowed itself to be feminized trough their obsession and with cunts and now has become weak and servile, so weak they cannot live on their own and now it had become their death sentence. We have become a species obsessed with self deception and ignorance, this can only go one way now for those people who allowed themselfs to be entrapped.

>>101755 >Psychiatry is a hard science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppositional_defiant_disorder say that again

>>101742 oh tankie are you mad. >throws autistic tantrum on hitler out of nowhere.

It's just a next level scam. Doctors pretend to cure people while ignoring their issues & peddling poison. Now these "mind doctors" can pretend to cure people without even giving out fake medicine, they just pretend their words are the cure and it's all in your head. Doctors love these guys too, they constantly push their patients to see their issues as "all in their head" so they don't even need to bother diagnosing them.

I don't know when a therapist would be something worth recommending, but there are useful bits of therapeutic theory that help you understand what isn't working. Just read the sort of books therapists are supposed to read to understand your particular issues as best as you can assess them. It doesn't solve the world being ruled by cool-headed child-shredding psychopaths, but that isn't a problem solved on a budget. >>101742 >Hitler cried like a baby when his niece Geli Raubal died and became a strict vegetarian shortly after, believing it was "her wish." This would raise my opinion of Hitler. >one testicle What if he actually had a whole grape cluster of testicles, what then?

>>101742 >He also had only one testicle that was franco

>>101707 I feel you on talking to privileged people about being disenfranchised. I think both things can be true at once. You can be form Maladaptive habits, patterns of thinking, ways of responding to stress and feedback, and have outside unjust bullshit fuarrrk you over. Both can spiral to make each other worse in my experience. For example I take myself, Due to said trauma I have very soykafty financial conditions, education and other things most people at my point in live dealt with.I have this pushed into my brain since a kid, cause we were really poor so I see no point in applying myself, cause my family can't afford it. Because I don't apply myself I don't have achivements and feel bad and Insecure. These things from a circle until you start to try and pull it apart. Some of these things are from my maladaptive traits, while others are bad systems and rng with awful family. Despite obviously influencing my state, they can't be excuses for my actions Those are my choices and that's the worst part of it but you gotta try to face it neutral and understanding. There's nothing to cure In my opniion, there's just new moves you can learn to dodge programming that live imprinted into you, and therapy can be helpful for it, at least a bit. For me It made me start to take agency in live seriously. If your going to get 'cured' you might as well eat brain pills itll be cheaper. I do agree its highly privileged, so do the therapist, it's the classic problem of nobody up top cares about anything other then profit. I think you gotta focus on what you can change in your own life, not on how awful everything else is. No point. Good example is climate change if you think about it seriously theres only rope(but thats every other day for me, maybe for you too so I really suggest doing things for yourself.) Some personal things why I like therapy now: I just started therapy(6 months), never really thought I needed it, thought i wasn't bad enough for depression cause i could move around most of the time, didn't have care from mother or school. Since 16 been doing drugs to cope with trauma, suicidal idilation since 13, I'm thinking cptsd but i thought everything unders the sun, in my opinion it only matters as far as you can see it in your own behaviour and change/deal with it, the name isn't imporant. Anyways, I've been to a psychward as well, after a drug induced psychosis, left of my own accord(thought I gotta go to work cause debt), sat around for 2 months and then started to work and smoke weed again, now I'm 6 months clean, don't do much self harm, go to the gym, I feel a lot better, clearheaded, though symptoms are much more intense. It feels good to feel though. Therapy helps me process and I think I would rope like 5 times already, or more accurately fantasize about it while wasting away. Barely have the cash for it, won't have soon but I think theraphy is good op, though I can't imagine what's a life long annoyance it can be with progress. I think you gotta be lighter to yourself, and see your own progress better. I do hate how I talk about my feelings and my therapist is like "And what's that about?" like fuarrrk me can at least try to act like a human being god

>>101709 I think it's weird how you see how easily people can get 'ensnared' by putting their feelings reactions behind big words, talking in circles about things and then do the same about women hating. Where do you get women gossip from? Historically it's more like men trying to understand women if we take freud type soykaf for example. That's why talk therapy is the most popular module women generally understand the value of social circles better and heal with them easier. Its conditioning to be hard as a male imo

>>101707 Benefits of therapy: 1. Vent to a stranger in a safe space 2. The therapist can give you healthy coping strategies 3. The therapist can give you outside perspective on your situation They can't live your life for you.

>>101774 these benefits do not come without risks. They can encourage you to indulge self destructive habits, they can suggest to you disruptive and non useful coping strategies, they can indulge your problems and cause them to fester, they can discover new problems and encourage you to investigate them until they become real and serious.

>>101787 >They can encourage- i'ma be real with you, so can a friend or family member. I think that's just what happens when you have a human conversation with another human.

>>101707 So lazy low IQ normal people can also make 600k a year

>>101790 sure, but your family and freinds typically have more aligned interests

>>101761 Isn't nazism associated with homoerotic degeneracy, starting the worst war in history, losing it, and getting a bunch of white people killed in the process? Nazi germany was objectively a bad time for whites, you might want to look at the post war period of America or something…

>>101747 ts image frying me because neonazi orgs literally gotta put token white guys as affirmative action quotas

>>101761 >>101709 What political and historical circumstances paved the way for this among jizzskins?

>>101707 >It's all based on the assumption that the prevailing conditions are reasonable and sound and you are maladaptive. This is quite a 1940s-timed talking post tbf my lainon. I'm not questioning the validity of the claim, but I do think it depends on the country where you're using said services. I know that in some countries (perhaps most predominantly the US) their psychiatric clinics are widely controlled by the pill (there's always a pill they wanna sell you, even if it hasn't been proven to work by anyone anywhere), which reflects the for-profit, empiricist, technology-driven make up of the overall social order. But in some countries their psychiatric clinics are dominated by paradigms which acknowledge, for one, that you can't medicate some things away with SSRIs for instance, that, number two, we're living in a totally fuarrrked up time mentally/spiritually, where the driving motor of the system is to generate neuroses, create dependencies and form all sorts of maladaptive complexes and fetishes in its inhabitants and then exploiting and profiting off of these to the victims' detriment, and thirdly, that the therapists' job isn't to readjust a patient to a society that is inherently sickly, but rather to give the patient the tools, critical feedback and emotional support necessary to the patient's personal growth (which may or may not but ideally should include learning the requisite means to navigate the hell we're living while preserving or cultivating the patient's inner world (e.g., his or her coping skills, emotional control, behaviour adapting, etc.) in order to give our human/animal side its due despite and/or in opposition to this increasingly instrumentalized, commodified, financialized, transactional, automatized, de-skillified, loveless, dehumanized, soulless, nihilistic, abstraction-filled hypermodern world of ours). Dunno if you were looking for venues that might offer this "real" mental health and therapy services due to bad experiences in your own country so far, but I think the most inexpensive alternative is to educate yourself on how your mind works (this might be a bit "out there", but isn't it kinda funny and strange that nobody has thought of equipping every n00b at life with a basic introductionary, even a rudimentary manual on how our minds work or how we ought to operate it, even though our minds are more powerful and complex than any computer we might create and we all use them every day? It's bananas to think that there are people out there who don't know how to operate theirs, metaphorically speaking keep hitting themselves in the head with a hammer and then wondering why their heads hurt and what might they do to stop it. But so it goes...). That cuts away most of the unnecessary money-grubbing bloat that is the "Medical Industrial Complex", let's call it, while possibly avoiding grifters and privileged clueless idiots with bullshit degrees giving you advice on things that you might have just as well googled yourself or read in a pirated 101 psychology textbook (though, it's always better to read the books by people who actually knew a thing or two and had practices their craft for decades, and serving as the pioneers of their discipline). 2 cents. it might not be something, but it's not nothing either

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>>101855 Brownoids make for compliant, malleable slaves. The only thing they value less than themselves, is each other. The "competition" is for being the best humanoid livestock.

I once had a therapist come into my high school as a class on self help the school forced us to do (to show everyone how progressive they are). It still baffles me how these people can be taken serious at all. We first started with playing "hindu spiritualist"music, where they put us in a circle, and we were supposed to take deep breaths and "connect to the world". After that, they had us drawing in piece of paper, in a way that one person couldn't see what was supposed to be drawn, and the other person was supposed to describe the thing only with words. This was to encourage "peaceful, non violent communication", whatever the fuuarrkk that means. And after having us doing this non-sense for four classes, we had to take a minute to hug the person next to us and stare into their eyes for a minute. I still want to understand how ANY of this is supposed to help anyone at all; and how any of this isn't a pseudoscience. Keep in mind this is a licensed, graduated therapist, who has real life clients. Therapy is nothing more than scamming vulnerable people.

>>101859 Virgin white citizen: >no sense of community at all >hating your family and never talking to them is normal >complains about paying taxes or being in debt, does it anyway >scared to talk to anyone with differing political opinions >scared to carry physical cash >#1 users of Amazon delivery, Apple products, and the banking system Chad illegal immigrant: >strong communities >large extended families are the norm. People look forward to family gatherings. >doesn't pay taxes, can't qualify for a loan >if they have political opinions at all, they'll happily work alongside people who disagree >cash-only economy >mainly buys stuff from Smart & Final Racists are just jealous of the browns and wish they could be like them. This is incidentally why the "racist with Latina GF" thing is so common.

>>101861 Individual choice is an illusion. People are largely a byproduct of institutions. So you're just observing the intentional effects of targeted social engineering on white people. If brownoid communities posed a problem for the elite, they would be easily be destroyed.

>>101862 I never said anything about individual choice. I'm just pointing out that whites are eminently easier to manipulate, at present, than browns. Maybe you're right that they were socially engineered that way, but that doesn't change the fact that brown is best. >they would easily be destroyed Would they? Why aren't they, then? They do all the things that make communities difficult to destroy, such as stick to tradition, go to church, rely on family rather than institutions, and have lots of children. Brown society is usually higher trust than white society as well. So what about brown society is so weak?

>>101863 >I never said anything about individual choice You gave a list of things that are mostly the result of people's choices. >Why aren't they, then Because there's nothing threatening about them. They're content to live in squalor, economic inequality only motivates them, and they couldn't care less about the environment. Indians still use asbestos as a building material. They don't demand change and better conditions for everyone. As for a historic precedent, the CIA used drugs on the blacks. Wasn't difficult at all.

>>101707 because the average user has no introspection skill whatsoever. furthermore therapy (almost) as a whole is quite literally pseudo scientific. there are good ones though, you should read on skinner or modern behaviorism. despite the pseudo science behind most therapy it's effective in some sense to normal people just because they can't think about their own soykaf. it can also be useful for neuroatypical people to help understand the normal person world, if one can't do that by themselves.

>>101863 >Brown society is usually higher trust than white society as well. Lmao. I'm almost at a loss for words at this. You have clearly never been in a majority black area for more than just passing through. You have no idea, or else you would not be spouting this bullcrap. >>101864 >content to live in squalor About sums it up, the shıt you see in these areas stuns me. I always feel like I'm too jaded to be affected by it, but then I'll spend a little time away and it hits me again just as hard. The filth of the street, the trash everywhere. Plastic confetti everywhere you look, storm drains choked with toxic trash soup. Ciggie butts, alcohol bottles and cans, chicken bones, styrofoam takeout boxes, food wrappers, hundreds if not thousands all forming a carpet on the ground, everywhere you walk. A half-smoked cigarillo on the ground next to the wrapper for a cigarillo. All this right next to bombed-out buildings with souped-up cars out front. People wearing brand new designer clothes in front of a house with the roof collapsed, and they just live there. Roaches everywhere. "Well, maybe the city should clean up the trash". They do. Every other day. And if they ever stopped, the people there would drown in trash past their necks and not care one bit. Senseless violence, brainless mad dog aggression. "High trust" my fücking ass, everybody looking over their shoulder, everybody sizing every single person up, everybody accusing eachother of shıt, or lying about shıt. People get shot over nothing, road rage, verbal disputes, gang bullshıt. Anything not chained up or nailed down gets stolen, and even then that's no guarantee. You stop watching your stuff and it gets swiped, well that's your fault for not watching your stuff. This is true to what I've actually seen, not just based on cherrypicked statistics or something. This is years of lived experience talking, in some of the worst areas the US has to offer. I went in a non-racist liberal too, this wasn't preconceived. I still don't hate anyone up front, but every majority black area I've been to is like this, and they have no shame about it. They will always be like this or worse without a proper solution, welfare is clearly not helping. Come back to reality please.

>>101864 >individual choice doesn't exist, but this are the results of individual choices OK Lain. >economic inequality only motivates them So they're gunning for the elites' lunch too? Sounds like a threat to me >they don't care about the environment Isn't caring about the environment just a way that the elites control people? Sounds like another win for browns >As for a historic precedent, the CIA used drugs on the blacks. Blacks != browns, especially in America. Blacks in america are the only people more broken than whites.

>>101867 >they're gunning for the elites' lunch No, they're gunning for scraps. When whites lock-in and gain self-determination, they threaten the entire global banking system. The passage in this image is from "A History Of Central Banking And The Enslavement Of Mankind".

>>101868 >when whites lock in and gain self-determination Lmao. Not gonna happen. I bet on brown, every day.

>>101787 Therapists are human. Maybe your personalities dont match. Maybe they are stupid. Maybe they are a fraud. You know... like in every other field. You give them the benefit of doubt because of their training and experience, and also because you consult a few before you find one that suits you. In addition, that outside input can be useful for someone in the middle of their emotions and stress. Identifying problems you were unaware of is a good thing. >>101790 Family, friends and colleagues are not always safe to vent to. Espicially colleagues, who might misuse what you share to get ahead.

>>101869 >I bet on brown, every day. Nice bait, Samir. NTA, but you don't seem to be interested in anything but being contrarian, like a bot or a wage slave. >>101867 >Blacks != browns Right, brown people are so great that you feel an intense need to distance yourself from the brownest of them all, blacks. Of course, makes sense.

>>101707 >What real purpose does "therapy" serve in relation to neoliberal capitalism? To identify wrong-thinkers and mess them up with anguish therapy and destructive drugs.

>>101878 >you don't seem interested in anything but being contrarian I'm interested in traditional values, religion, family, and independence from the banking system. I also like women. Therefore, I think brown people are better than white people in every aspect. It really is that simple. >the most brown people, blacks brown and black are different colors, what else can I say? It's not about the color of the skin.

>>101896 bot or indian, call it.

>>101913 it's a bot. the board's been plagued by it.

>>101913 >>101977 Both wrong. I'm a self-hating white who realized my race is inferior and degenerate. >over 60% of gays/transes are white >white women have more autonomy than in any other culture >whites are more likely to be pro-race mixing >less likely to go to church/mosque than any other race Face it, you CANNOT be traditionalist and also have any hope for cumskins. The only exceptions are eastern Europeans.

Also worth mentioning I live in a majority-Filipino ghetto. I hear people speaking Tagalog on the bus every single day. I know what I'm talking about.

Your take is very naive. Depression to the point where you can hardly get out of bed is not a natural reaction to a bad environment. Suffering is a normal part of human existence and has always been. Sure, many things seem worse right now, but that is not a justification to give up normal functioning of your brain forever when so many people throughout history have managed just fine in much worse circumstances than whatever you think you are going through. You do not need to be brainwashed to see positive aspects in a bad world, you just need to be grown up and accept your existence for what it is. Also, there are probably more reasons to seek therapy than you realize. Do you think something like narcissism can be fixed by changing "material circumstances"? That being said, I agree that in practice, therapy mostly is like kicking dead whales down the beach. I have never tried it myself, but from what I have heard, many therapists have zero life experience and have have chosen this profession just because they had an interest in psychology. I could personally not take someone like this serious enough to let them challenge my beliefs. I also would not trust them to protect my privacy as data protection in healthcare is soykaf, so I could not imagine truly opening up. So I believe the best approach is to try and fix whatever is wrong with your mind yourself, perhaps with the help of some good books. Of course this will not work for people with problems so severe that they have no energy to help themselves.

>>101994 >this will not work for people with problems so severe that they have no energy to help themselves neither will therapy

>>101995 For some, sure. But do you seriously not believe that getting external help can make things easier than having to work out everything on your own? Assuming a competent therapist of course, but I hope it was clear enough from my previous post that I do not believe that every therapist is helpful.

>>101996 therapy in this context usually means talking to someone. If I have no energy to help myself, I'm going to need this person to come to me or bring me to them somehow, and talk to me, and though that method alone, cause some improvements. External help is warranted in situations like that, all I'm saying is that at that point the therapist, assuming you even talk to them, is not going to be able to do much through chatting with you.

>>101707 Yes I am the Joker as well, one thing I don't understand is how there are so many jokers and no terrorist Joker groups. Can someone explain?

Based OP for once. The world they built will eat itself alive like a starving hydra in time. Keep the fight alive, that's what matters most. May Lain herself speak through your posts

>>101707 I live next to a country which population is addicted to happy pills. The whole society is one big farce where everyone pretends being fine. But what would you do if you could meet irl the lainons you agree with here?

>>101707 >It's all based on the assumption that the prevailing conditions are reasonable and sound and you are maladaptive. don't know which kind of psychologist you're visiting but from personal experience that's just untrue, specifically told most of my patients are going to be fuarrrked over by the capitalist system and that most illness and anxieties can be traced to the Neoliberal system itself and that what I do is mostly just going to be a small band aid to help people who get fuarrrked over daily. >t. psychstudent

>>102755 >specifically told most of my patients are going to be fuarrrked over by the capitalist system and that most illness and anxieties can be traced to the Neoliberal system itself and that what I do is mostly just going to be a small band aid to help people who get fuarrrked over daily Hm. I am just curious why do you choose to be a 'small band-aid'? Well, is there any reason apart from the ridiculous amount of money you can make?

>>102755 Ok. I've heard the "blame capitalism for your ills" bit enough. Now answer this: how is lains anxiety, depression, dissociation, psychosis, and/or schizophrenia tracable individually to capitalism? How does A cause B in this claim? I have never heard anything other than wishy washy "it just does". Please actually explain and justify that perspective.

>>102757 Not him, but the argument I've seen is that these behavioral traits are categorized as problems because of the capitalist system. The capitalist system expects you to be not an individual human but a ready cog to fit into the machine, and any behavioral traits that make you either less effective or just less standard as a worker under this system are identified as defects to be corrected. To offer an example, a lot of people are a little bipolar; they have periods where they're energetic and can be industrious and busy, and periods where they're not. If you work a stereotypical job, you're expected to clock in around 9am and out around 5pm, and do this year round. There's not much wiggle room where some weeks you'll work 60 hours and some weeks you'll work 20, even if the average is still 40. The tempo of labor in antiquity had a lot more ups and downs. Obviously an ancient subsistence farmer had periods where he was very busy, and needed to be able to work, but he also had entire seasons with comparatively little work vs harvest time or planting time. A lot of small cottage industry also has some of this, if not freedom, variety, and its possible that traits like 'bipolar disorder' are in fact strengths under historic conditions. Under the modern workplace rules, you need to be transformed in order to fit your expected role, and there's little room for that role to be transformed in order to fit you. Therapy, psychiatry, these are some of the tools used in sculpting people to fit their roles.

>>102759 If you live with someone who has major depressive disorder you will quickly realize how untrue this is. These diseases don't just affect your workplace performance and they don't become inconsequential if you are in a situation where your material needs are all taken care off. Even if a person never needed to clock in to work at all and had plenty of support from home, their disease would still be debilitating, it prevents them from forming new relationships, achieving any of their goals, or living authentically. Capitalism might make things *worse* but it isn't the source of the issue.

>>102760 Not that lainon, but to be honest I'd be surprised most of the people here didn't have personal experience with severe mental illness. I do broadly agree that most of these aren't diseases in any real sense. I mean, really, how many of us actually want to live this way? Why are we trying to be so good at something we fundamentally do not want?

>>102759 As somebody with a litney of mental health problems, I identify the argument as bullshit. Clocking in is the absolute least of my problems.

>>102762 any capitalist sort of has to, right? if it's just meds and therapy you can get to happiness or cope as an individual. if your mind is healthy and reacting to bad stimuli then there are only collective solutions left which capitalism doesn't offer.

Serious mental illness is real, sure. There've been lunatics throughout the ages. On the other hand a huge fraction of people today are on antidepressants, a huge fraction of people today are on drugs to deal with ADHD and like issues. An alarming number of psychologists and psychiatrists exist and apparently make enough money to survive. If someone was paying me to pin this on capitalism, I'd say that the capitalists had all these products, new drugs, therapy, et cetera, and needed to develop a market. You and I as bonafide lunatics may not be part of that market they developed, but you probably know someone who is. And even if you are a true and honest lunatic, the less lucrative ways of supporting you and steering you well have been removed, while added chemical and psywar hazzards have been emplaced in your environment. ....for your economic pleasure.....

>>102763 >Average retard who needs excuses to blame anybody but themselves

>>102765 if you truly believe most mental illness is just a disease then blaming yourself doesn't make any sense. I think even capitalist know on some level they are making themselves "sick"