Genuine question to incel community

Ok, so its pretty much an established statistical fact that women ON AVERAGE are more attracted to men with bigger wallets (more status, more money, more resources to support their future family etc). And by a simple supply-demand law women have unfair advantage in dating market as there are more men competing for each woman than there are women competing for each man. But then why don't incels see the issue in the fact that most men are attracted to a very specific certain kind of women: the conventionally attractive type (hourglass figure, pretty face, small nose, big proportional eyes, smooth skin, nice makeup, good hair etc)? Don't you see the hypocrisy in being annoyed/mad at the fact that women are seeking men with bigger wallets while either not mentioning at all or downplaying the fact that men are seeking women with better looks and sexual appeal? I've been to some places where wealthy people live and what I've noticed is that most of the average or even below average looking guys there have hot as soykaf wives/gfs. Because guys with options won't settle for less when they can get whatever they prefer and it turns out that they are as picky as women when they get to choose. Which kinda brings us to my next point: men ON AVERAGE WOULD BE just as picky if they got to choose, if they had an option.

>>101126 oh look it's yet another incel garbage bait thread with each passing year, i am more convinced that /hum/ was a mistake...

didn't read OP should be castrated for posting that pic

are those keys floating in mid air or are they glued/surgically adjoined to the guy's arm?

>>101131 he just flung them to you, the audience. He's wealthy enough he doesn't need the car, he'll get another one. It was probably dirty anyway. The other guy who is called 'stable' is probably going to literally die in about fifteen minutes he looks so sickly. Why would stacy want him.

>men ON AVERAGE WOULD BE just as picky if they got to choose, if they had an option. They already are that picky. They already do have that option. Most incels aren't even unattractive, they just have unreasonable expectations just like the women they criticize. Are you an unattractive slob that hates yourself? Sorry, your soulmate is an unattractive slob that hates herself. Take it or leave it.

>>101126 I am not a member of the incel community, and really have no business replying to this thread. However, in response to the stated question of incel hypocrisy I would give these answers: First, an incel may not view this as hypocrisy, because they might view beauty as an acceptable trait to be attracted to, while attraction to wealth may be considered shallow. Secondly, an incel may not believe that their standards are high. If their view of the world is warped enough, they may not have any idea what an average woman looks like. Both of the previous problems stem from the same core cause: Art, Culture, and it's influence on one's perception of the world. Because people crave beauty, it is popular, so it is sold, the more beautiful something is, the more successful it is likely to be. Someone who is out of touch with reality, but heavily immersed in culture, will inevitably develop a warped perspective. Entertainment media has taught incels that being attracted to wealth is shallow, while being attracted to beauty is noble. I'm not saying that female hypergamy doesn't exist, but from my perspective, it appears that the main problem incels suffer is a disconnect from reality.

>>101126 you're asking people to explain their feelings but that's not how it works, you don't decide how or why you feel the way you feel it's crazy that everything is a "community" now. imo incels are a fandom, they care more about the incel mythology than about actually getting pussy. and that's fine, everyone has different hobbies, which unfortunately also means that no one is that special

>>101139 Everything has a cause, understanding your feelings is an essential part of discipline and self-control. Ignoring the cause of your feelings is tantamount to sacrificing control of your life.

>>101141 mind over matter brother, just push through it

>>101126 your claims an hallucinations of how they are, lead to your poast. What i can show you (if lainchan wasnt removing video file formats) : https://files.catbox.moe/45x8n4.mp4 https://files.catbox.moe/k75c8r.mp4

>>101127 I'm starting to hope that Appleman removes this board as soon as possible

>>101126 That image is pretty cringe. If you realize how it really works and that you were basically tricked and given early childhood programming that would never be effective in adulthood, you just have to get over it. You don't have to accept it like a slave and find a new programming model either, but you can't keep being a romanticist bitch like the withered husk on the right. Hoping that a woman shows up to invest in you, or save you, or make you.

>>101155 >withered husk on the right Left rather. You can tell I barely cared enough about the image to remember it properly. Granted it was a general failure given that virgin and chad is always left and right respectively.

>virgin and chad is always left and right respectively you really are a different breed huh

Love is not real, romance is childish. All this are just evolutionary means to make opposite sexes socialize and copulate. This entire discussion is a waste of time.

>>101161 >neurosuggesting romantic love is evolutionary it didn't exist before the renaissance. evo psych is such a joke

"Everything is about control, I must never slip nor ever fall. Anything is possible for me, I must never doubt, and finally be free."

>>101163 and it's funny how so many guys are terrified of being seen as weak or whiny so they blame everything on themselves. grow a spine and start complaining and blaming others. emotion and intuition exist for a reason and if anyone ever tells you to repress them, ask yourself why they are telling you to do that cultish ass nonsense. just live your life, brother

>>101164 I agree. That type of quasi-stoic mindset and "taking responsibility" is a common trap.

>>101164 >just live your life, brother urban z__mer slang detected. next post will be : "live, lough, life" .

>>101166 There's nothing really wrong with that image unless he doesn't leave his wife. From a higher perspective something else is going on and he can choose to just let it go and leave. If she doesn't like that, too bad.

>>101167 yes, culling for a primitive breed that takes yo soykaf and your gonna say yes. Very submissive and breedable of you, something higher truly :3

>>101168 Yes, what you just stated is part of higher thinking. Don't like it? Get rid of the factors causing it.

>>101169 brave and stunning.

>>101171 Covid era "awakened" posters like you are the worst. We're saying the same thing and you're too stupid and egotistical to realize it.

>>101172 All of my old friends who have families now got themselves and their kids vaccinated during the 2020 hysteria, I still feel maybe instinctively that it's a bad time to start a family

>>101173 well, you can see the outcome despite that appended

>>101174 totally real story, not porn.

>>101173 > I still feel maybe instinctively that it's a bad time to start a family Same. Not much more to be said about it.

>Don't you see the hypocrisy in being annoyed/mad at the fact that women are seeking men with bigger wallets while either not mentioning at all or downplaying the fact that men are seeking women with better looks and sexual appeal? I do see it, its just simple jelousy and sexual frustration, it is a powerful force and can be barely controlled, i know first hand. Women having the tendency to escalate that on purpose and take advantage of it makes it much worse. If you read some more from places like r9k and the like, there usually are backstories and events that made them distrustful and many bad things women do out of pleasure and get away with. The delusion lies in thinking that looks and status are fair at all, most women are simply born with good looks and play that out just as most of the rich are children of rich parents. Also do not overlook how many of the rich and good looking are engaging in intrigue and backstabbing and even much worse over money, power and sex, which all can be interchanged in certain ways. Besides the joke is on both the rich kids who waste their money on closet prostitutes who will milk them off and stab them in the back when the chance arises and the sluts who spend their time and money chasing after richer men while competing against "prettier" ones all the while knowing that they will one day be old and ugly with no skill or abilities that would make them in any way redeeming in any way whatsoever. The OPs picture says it all, just think it trough. Why would a good looking women want a loyal(in other words attached), stable(or boring and submissive) and kind(that is to say weak and ifluencable) mate over someone who has the means to provide a life of wealth and high status in exchange for sexual favors from good looking women, which benefits them both for a short time. It is not the fault of neither the man or women, but simply the fault of trecherous human biology, the problems arising are just symptoms of that, that does not excuse neither party from engaging in this degenerate behavior, but it will simply happen and we have to get used to it. What is even more genuinely frustrating is that charisma, charme, sophistication and humor do not amount to anything at all in reality, its all fakeness and pretense that goes over well in both men and women.

>>101162 you cant say that with a straight face while dido and helen of carthage and troy respectively exist

>>101177 >are engaging in intrigue and backstabbing and even much worse over money, power and sex, which all can be interchanged in certain ways. Im having the frustration that no antidote is composed against these. Many hum threads are whining, most other chans is whining about such... so on. What hidden gems can be cooked up, i wonder? are we this helpless and retarded. The variables they hold are simple, primitive sledgehammers, they work in the principle of : Right makes might. or validate by violence (financial violence or social status humiliation... so on). What can we fabricate, some dialectic to crystalize something.

I've been walking at the seaside and picking up every single small rock and asking the God: WHY OH WHY ISN'T THIS EXACT ROCK THE PINNACLE OF CREATING AND ART And I would do this with every single small rock not leaving any behind without blame

>>101162 >>neurosuggesting romantic love is evolutionary >neurosuggesting neurosuggestion is real ...and you might just succeed

>>101165 stoicism has always been about cowardice >you should live in fear of everything and never go against "how things are" >>101177 actually, I was wrong, you do sound whiny and annoying, please adopt a more stoic mindset

>>101161 Just because love is an evolutionary means of reproduction, does not make it any less real, or any less beautiful.

>>101184 I agree with this also. People too frequently try to cheapen or denigrate someone else's experience of love. What's the point of saying it's an illusion? Is your memory of eating dinner last night an illusion, even though it was real at the time. "Let the dead bury the dead. Leave life to the living." If you know life and death, then learn to leave them all to it.

>>101126 Didn't read Go outside and make some friends OP

Men prefer attractive girls for the same reason attractive girls go for chads with money: girl subconsciously thinks chad with money can support her family and kids better, a guy subconsciously thinks that attractive girl makes for better mother material, than non attractive one. All these fatass selfish pigs, or flawed girls can argue all the want that they make as good of a wife and mother as a pretty face is but female excuses. Its no better than a virgin with no money tries to say they can make as good husband as rich guy because they are nice. Her traits are not optimised for wifehood and mother hood, thus she is not eligivle, that is all. Idea that all low eligibility people should just settle for equally low eligibility from opposite gender is the stupidest thing ever, That way neither parent can perform duties needed for family to function, they are better off on their own than in a reliationship.

>>101187 Being a good wife and mother has little to do with whether you've got big tits or clear skin.

>>101187 having a reasonable person, you can forget. even people with masters degree i have seen (men) are god awful. (most get their degree by making a field résumé, instead of attributing new matters etc.) so back to girls/woman what can you expect there? most are pretty, many young men are pretty aswell, but awfully dumb, with their entire life hanging on strings of nepotism. and i would rape both a pretty boi and girl. so my insight is not biased to promote any gender.

>>101187 >subconsciously stopped reading. I hate you dunning krugers so much it is unreal just say they like money, you don't have to bring in the subconscious (a concept you do not understand). just say that money makes life easier and therefore people like getting money

>>101188 Well reality is that when men sees some kind of wild girl-boy girl acting arrogant, he is not attracted to her but repealed instead. Weakness and girliness attract men and strength repel them, this is reality of live. Just as much as girls like bigger cock of bigger muscles. Its pointless to argue these things do not make one a better husband/wife or better gf/bf, that is how both genders thing and there is nothing one can do to change that. Girl is bound to be alone or lesbian if she cannot be moe cute sweet little thing.

>>>/hum/101193 weak bait and unfortunately I have to write a longer answer, but it is frustrating that either you take the bait, or posts like these go uncontested and start to look as the majority opinion

Is this like genuine r9k refugee thread or just larping?

>>101194 >posts like these go uncontested and start to look as the majority opinion I like to think that everyone with at least double digit iq looked at the op image and ignored the thread, so it naturally selects for idiots. ...then again I'm getting too horny reading all these posts to contest them...