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Modern medicine is a scam, doctors are grifters. At best they refuse to help, at worst they push "cures" that make things worse and treat their patients as human experiments. Everyone has heavy metal poisoning, everyone is at least microdosing on lead, but they cover it up and pretend everything is okay and blame you for being sick and weak. It's a privilege if they have less access to doctors, and how they're able to be so athletic - they aren't being weighed down as much by the poison.

biology is extremely complex and all of medical science has barely even scratched the surface of how living organisms work. but you are not a doctor and you have not devoted decades of your life to trying to understand biology, so you know even less about it than they do. so just shut up.

>>100639 nta but don't do ah homs please. the FDA does fund the regulators that approve pharma and gets a huge chunk of its budget from user fees paid by the companies whose drugs it's reviewing. the drugs are approval-speed incentives that don't always align with long-term safety data. Richard Horton (The Lancet editor) and Marcia Angell (former NEJM editor) have both said in print that a large fraction of published clinical research is unreliable. drug reps have historically had significant influence on prescribing habits, and docs are very often sponsored by pharmaceutical companies to continue their medical education credits. the incentive structure rewards treating chronic conditions over curing them, because a patient who needs a maintenance drug for 30 years is a better revenue stream than a patient who's cured in 2 weeks. it's like having a pile of garbage inside a house, and all the drugs do is spraying odor eliminators all around, and when nothing happens, a "bigger dosage" is used.

>>100639 What this nigga here said hit the spot, its not only biology but also ecology which is what most forget, organisms are not separate but interact with the environment in two ways. Also dont blame the doctors, most of them are either just worn out and sick of the bullshit they have to put with and sold out or frustrated by the insurance companies and pharma poison industry. The right place to put the blame is the insurance industry who scam people out of their money and thereby force the doctors to push pills and feed off the pharma industry who they ultimately created themselfs. It is a vicious circle who was perpetrated by selling simple solutions who do not work and only cover up symptoms and then shift money around. There is also another side to things that is most people do not care about their health much, they live unhealthy by eating crap, not excercising properly and living in filthy ruts then when they get sick go to doctors and just want a magic pill to fix everything rather than fixing the source by changing their life. Also i think most doctors are aware of that and only hand out pills to mask the symptoms because they are aware that most do not want put in the effort to fix their lifes. Doctors are seen by most as some sort of magic people who just patch them up when they are sick and sent them back on their way, but themselfs do not take charge of their health thereby also reinforcing the cycle. There is a reason why most doctors first ask if you smoke when you get in their office and tell you to fuarrrk off and quit smoking, its harsh but sadly true, i have seen it in many people, they get sick and go to the doctors just take the pills but do not adjust their lifestyle at all even tho they know perfectly fine its not good for them. >>100642 If everyone was healthy, what would we need doctors and pharmaceuticals for? Its a no win situation for everyone, if people would all become their own doctors we would not need doctors but then everything would stagnate until disease peaks again and where are the doctors then? Its a hopeless situation either way for everyone involved, bot the sick patients and the medical industry who are basically parasitic feeding of sickness and ultimately eating itself up. It really is all a big experiment gone terribly wrong and there seems to be no way out really, after all knowledge requires sacrifice and without experimentation on human subjects we would be none the wiser.

doctors and medicine is obviously terrible in a lot of ways and don't understand a great deal of things, but if I get shot or get my arm crushed or whatever I'm going to the hospital if I can

>>100643 >>100642 did you buy into this from a guy who got a masters in sports psychology then "broke out of the ivory tower to blow the whistle on the grand conspiracy" soykafs fuarrrking goofy

>>100667 he pole vaulted from the top where they keep sport phd. remember: ph d means PHYSICAL DOCTORATE HOO RAH

>>100628 I agree. The field of medicine/health care has become one of the ugliest major forces at play in the US, possibly in all of the modern civilized world, but I would not know enough to speak on it. The way we are forced to live in this world makes us all sick in a new way than ever before. The price of our extended and relatively comfortable lifespans is a subscription to chronically sustained illness of the body and mind. Given an increasingly troubled world, health care is over-burdened by the patient load and their expectations in society based largely in instant gratification. My sympathy ends here. The priority is no longer on health. It is a self-necessitating industry that has bred a sick dependency into us. Our senses are being increasingly numbed by overstimulation. Without sensation, we lose the ability to gauge what is happening within our own bodies and minds, and where our problems come from. People begin to instead seek answers in modern medicine, as if it is a religion capable of promising the salvation of comfort and protection in exchange for an undying servitude and belief in its principles. People crave relief for all the ailments of life which they have no control over. People feel better just by going to the doctor. People feel good when they get a new pill that is easy to swallow. People like that doctors alleviate the burden of their responsibility to their own health. They are willing to surrender their autonomy to free themselves of this burden imposed upon them by the world, which they did not ask for or create. Insurance absorbs the cost for peace of mind. Another evil deemed necessary to sustain the mess that is health care. Most are addicted to this ritualistic performance of "health" and will recommend you participate in it, too. These people usually frown at you as if you are personally hurting them if you don't want to or express disbelief in it. They are much the same as drug addicts. Efficiency of care is favored above quality of care. We are moving toward a reality where ticking a checkbox is the gauge of success. Standardization is seen as the answer to increasing efficiency. Was the patient treated according to the protocol? Yes! Did the following the protocol provide resolution to their problems? That question is irrelevant. It is your right to get a second opinion -- but everyone knows that a second opinion means next to nothing when the whole game is rigged. The practice of categorizing people into diagnostic boxes alleviates the need for individuation beyond a certain threshold, which has proven all too time consuming and costly to keep up with. Diagnostic criteria are repeatedly revised and rewritten throughout the years to set the framing for our illnesses. How the criteria are specified, and on what scale they are measured, dictate the baseline for what we are conditioned to see as "normal" within the abornality of illness. More easily treatable patients are rewarded with more clear cut diagnoses. Those with difficult cases will be carefully written off into alternative paths so as to not register as failures by the system. Controlling the diagnostic framing is statistically a better tactic than investigating the driving causes of illnesses. Most illnesses deemed as psychosomatic likely mentally originate from the psychological trauma of being erased from normalcy for not being an ideal candidate to serve as a medical success story. A patient's lived experience is only relevant to the point of being corralled into alignment with diagnostic criteria. At this point, a patient becomes defined instead by a label or series of labels, and ceases to be an individual in the eyes of the medical system. Some people have even begun to take stockholm syndrome style refuge in their diagnoses as an identity. This is happening in particular with mental illness. The diagnostic process has been reduced from a human sensibility into just information aggregation and simple comparisons of facts and numbers in accordance with normal thresholds. It is so robotic that it could be replicated just as well, if not (disappointingly) better, by a LLM artificial intelligence. We are all supposed to continue pretend that your average modern, fresh out of med school, textbook-bound doctor can offer something the internet and other fellow human beings cannot. All of this pretending is seemingly just to protect some sort of demonic egregore's already bloated ego. Pharmaceutical medicines are lined up to offer purported relief for every diagnostic category. They are usually a first line of treatment precisely because they make it easier for doctors to claim to have fulfilled the obligation of "treatment" by writing a prescription. Medicines are not evil, but the way they are being prescribed is. The focus is clearly on the mass normalization of perpetual symptom management and the suspension of hope rather than tangible life improvement or cure. Taking chemical cocktails as advised often spawns new problems that are innocuously branded as side effects. They are presented as unusual case scenarios, anomalies that are difficult to explain, rather than predictable outcomes of a particular mechanism of action. The gatekeeping of medical expertise by doctors keeps alive the "mystery" of why things affect us the way they do, a cover all defense against liability if things go wrong. Actually being affected by the small print makes you the exception to the rule -- "we could not have foreseen you would respond that way" -- gently implying that the onus is on your biology for not responding correctly. Probably genetics, and we all know how indecipherable that is, so just shut up and try the next sponsored medication on the list like everyone else. Tests are very helpful tools. But tests are performed in excess to compensate for a doctor's lack of real attunement or practical experience with the human body. And test results are treated by modern doctors as indisputable as god's word. Results show your values are mildly off? Say hello to a new medicine and further subjugation to testing. Suffering but test results don't show any problems? You may be having a psychosomatic reaction, and I am sure that gaslighting you into believing the problem is in your head will help with that. Look to anecdotal advice for help? You're playing with fire to confide in the experience of fellow human beings who have gone through the same thing. Question the doctor's opinion? You're arrogant for thinking you could know something a doctor doesn't, and you're a danger to yourself. Listen to the professionals. Overstep and you may even be denied care because you will be seen as a liability. Anyone who thinks their experience could hold equivalent weight to a doctor's word is crazy or a fool. Yet the medical standard takes years to catch up to the lived experience of human beings. It spends years in denial of any truth but its own despite overwhelming anecdotal evidence otherwise, until it rewrites the truth and pretends it has been there all along. Many trendy news articles will be published to congratulate modern medicine on its revelations. It is difficult, if not mostly impossible, to find a practitioner outside the mainstream medical system, who is not instead a complete quack doctor. These two forces are just opposite sides of the same coin. Both polarities here bring validation to each others' existence. Alternative medicine uses mainstream medicine as a scapegoat to peddle their own snake oil. Mainstream medicine relishes in their apparent credibility by comparison. Both produce occasional merits, but none so great as to warrant the greater cost of keeping alive this charade. Regardless of the side, money wins. Medicine will become fully commercialized. The urgent care chains which have popped up across the nation like a bad case of acne. The pharmaceutical advertisements that plague television advertisements. Both are solid proof of this model taking hold. Online health portals play into the vulnerabilities of our social media oriented brains, as if having a profile in a system with your name on it constitutes any semblance of individuality or control. It is just a front end illusion to make people feel like they are receiving personal, customized care. The bureacracy of medical record keeping serves mostly to demand institutional respect. Sensitive information about you is passed between health care entities, and you become the monkey in the middle to matters that primarily concern you. It is easy for them to write to your record, but difficult for you to change - even when the information is incorrect from their own negligence. The inviting interface to communicate is just a placebo for your helplessness. Whether intentional or just a byproduct of the flaws of human nature at this stage of evolution, the medical industry seems to be functioning as a part of larger conspiracy to ultimately turn us all against our own biology. Humanity is collectively suffering from an autoimmune condition wherein our species begins to distrust and betray our own bodies, and in so doing, we forfeit our livelihoods to something deeply inhuman. If the medical industry had just been honest about its failings and limitations, this monster may not have grown so large. But unfortunately we don't live in a world where an honest answer is an acceptable answer.

Its understandable that you say this but I have one friend whos a doctor and like 3 who were on the path and then quit to go into policy or education cause failures in policy and educating doctors is in my opinion why you actually feel this way. Because statistically no, more access to healthcare and more frequent (but not too frequent visits) = longer life. But thats not really a mark of success thats more the bare minimum youd hope for. Because thats on average, yes many people do in fact die because a doctor didnt trust a patient about something important or thought a patient was lying about pain or denied them care they need because they thought they knew better. These people would have died without a doctor anyways but with an even slightly better doctor they would have easily lived. Look at comments online, how many are totally idiotic, would you even factor in anything about what they think is wrong with them over your years of education saying otherwise? And then imagine how quick youd end up dismissing even reasonable people off a stray comment after thousands of idiots walk through your door, just like probably has happened to you here where you snap at someone because they sound like they are making a retarded point youve heard before only to find out you misread them. You assume the worst cause it usually is. But a doctor needs to be better, and unfortunately in america at least the pre med and then grad and doctorate education pipeline basically demands of its students even before college to completely give up normal socialization and even put other education (philosophy, foreign language, etc.) that isnt medical related as something to just rush through and forget or it becomes filtered through a medical lense (ie something like 'ethics of medicine' often taught by another under socialized medical school pipeline victim instead of someone who cares about the topic of ethics). In addition these students are encouraged to be fiercly competitive, sometimes finding excuses to not help even a friend with a test or assignment. Its very isolating, very narrow in scope, and produces some of the worst people to be working in a field where you are expected to work with people 24/7. I dont know which poison instead of actual cure scenario you are talking about but the thing is usually its not a poison just a lesser cure than what could be. And insurance companies and higher ups in the medical and pharma field are indeed aware of this, your doctor is often not. They simply arent curious often (good ones are), if someone comes to them saying they want to try something that isnt official or that they arent aware of, well they also often get total idiots asking soykaf like that, and so even if its a case where you are correct you get lumped in with said idiots. They arent trying to hide the real cures from you thats someone else, they just think your another person who googled some bullshit and now thinks you know better. Rather than try to hear you first that antisocial and competitive rearing makes them override your input even harder. Likewise if you have any habits or lifestyle choices out of the norm, say very casual non problematic drug use. They didnt do any partying often at all, any drug use that isnt something legal seems "extreme" to them and suddenly you are the stereotype of like an extreme drug user. Many of the things you interpret on the doctor end as deliberately malicious are just this, poor socialization and a lot of praise and cutthroat competitiveness leading to poor sometimes fatally poor care because of a lack of curiosity and a refusal to trust that someone might know their own body better. As well as seeing you as basically like a car to fix.

>Everyone has heavy metal poisoning, everyone is at least microdosing on lead, but they cover it up and pretend everything is okay and blame you for being sick and weak. idk i think i'd be a fuarrrk ton more weaker if I didn't have a titanium plate and screws to hold my leg together to heal from a fracture. maybe i'm titanium-brained but i like it when my bones heal correctly as expected...

>>100628 >>100642 Yes, it's hell and you can't really trust your doc anymore. They're drug sellers more than anything: they barely give a soykaf, they don't listen to you more than what's just sufficient to type the symptoms in their computer, which an AI could do mind you. Then their computer burps a list of pills and crap and there you go, bon appetit. Now may be a good time to talk about deworming too. >>100643 >Also dont blame the doctors, most of them are either just worn out and sick of the bullshit they have to put with and sold out or frustrated by the insurance companies and pharma poison industry. Perhaps. This doesn't excuse their behavior. Most are robots doing what they're told to do. Remember Kowid?

>>100704 Jokes on you, titanium is not amoung the heavy metals

>>100729 >>100729 >>100729 that's the point.

>>100726 youre fuarrrking retarded. dont apply the failures of the pharmaceutical industry on the entirety of healthcare. maybe take the antipsychotics yr shrink is giving you so you can understand this