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Unironically what is the unironic answer to the black crime rates? I think eugenics programs would help breed out some undesirable features What do you guys think?

Op here I do want to add I do think black americans have potential Many of them are in wonderful careers and statistically only about 30% commit crime meaning about 70% do not have a criminal history

>>100254 UBI, if nobody is killing each other over money that probably drastically lessens the amount of crime in general. Otherwise I'd say there's basically no solution to this problem. People are gonna do what they're gonna do until they don't get any benefit from it in any way shape or form. I don't wanna advocate for genocide or mass incarceration because i'm against it and it will not ultimately work out anyways- but that'd probably be one of the only solutions that might work. There's no black crime if there's no blacks. But I don't have anything against black people anymore, at least not like I did when I was younger. Everybody has made it this far for a reason.

the unironic answer was executing most of the confederacy then seizing and redistributing their lands. i don't know why americans pretend they didn't deliberately create an underclass and all these statistics just appeared out of the ether

>>100257 this except all the blacks. i don't understand why americans blame the south for the fact blacks can't raise themselves despite many other groups like jews having zero trouble.

>>100257 >i don't know why americans pretend they didn't deliberately create an underclass and all these statistics just appeared out of the ether There are many counter-examples though. Africans are uniquely incapable without hand-holding, and even when the boot.was taken off of their throats, they just turn their efforts toward self-aggrandisement, the trappings of status, or tearing down those who are able to do what they cannot. Africa is itself a proof, as it is the only continent to entirely fail socially, politically, and economically after the withdrawl of colonial activity. You can whine and kvetch about exploitation, but out of all regions affected by ongoing Imperialism, they are the ONLY ones to fail so entirely. >>100258 You get it.

>>100258 >>100259 i don't know if there's some kind of mental block you guys have, but you deliberately created an underclass of those specific people dipshit. of course other groups you didn't do that to don't have the the same problems. it's like a saudi complaining his libyan slave labor is fuarrrked up, well, yeah no soykaf

>>100260 >you deliberately created an underclass of those specific people dipshit. of course other groups you didn't do that to it was done to a lot of people. your specially chosen underclass is no different. the blacks are not remotely unique. related, but why do people run interference for blacks almost more than jews? at least the chosen people earn it, the blacks however...

>>100260 Untrue, and you cannot account for those failures half a world away......

>>100260 >all other races came to the US with riches and social status >asians, irish, poor appalachian outlanders, indians, native americans, mexicans, women, cripples, etc. don't exist one example: https://tnmuseum.org/Stories/posts/the-story-of-chinese-laborers-and-the-reconstruction-south literal slave labor replacement, only doubleplus hated for language barrier. notice where asians fall on that graph...

It's organized crime, and who owns the organized crime syndicates? People like epstein. That's why crime is tolerated, defended, enabled, supported - it's an unofficial branch of the government. It's convenient for them to dress it up as racial, cultural, national - people would be harder to deceive and exploit if they knew where the real lines lie.

>>100263 >>100262 >>100261 i feel like there is a core part of american identity where you guys just never take any accountability even for policy most of your leaders openly advocated for. almost every rich country has a similar setup with a migrant or some other minority underclass, but usually they are more open about it. america just soykafs the bed and says "god did it"

>>100265 It's the american way, they did 911 to themselves while imagining a fanciful story about cavemen stealing planes to kamikaze strike and magically level the buildings to the ground.

>>100266 it reminds me of watching rambo where it frames the primary evil of the war as him coming home and being called a baby killer, spat on, etc. it's like something in the american brain breaks if you just say "well you guys did actually kill a whole lot of babies" it's not enough for them to delude themselves, everyone else is supposed to play along

>>100256 if you control for parental income blacks males are still vastly more criminal than anyone else. The black son of a black millionaire is more likely a criminal than the white son of a destitute father. I don't really see whats wrong with mass incarceration. Its a lot better than letting out murderers.

>eugenics programs would help breed out some undesirable features Shit spiller. Elaborate? >double posting Ironic to talk about eugenics whilst being retarded. Not that eugenics ever had smart people behind it.

>>100269 >Elaborate prohibit criminals and other carriers of genetic traits linked to crime from reproducing

end ghetto-creating policies, fix property taxes and implement rent control in those areas so that they can be improved without pushing out the existing residents. The solutions to most of the world's problems are actually very easy, they just don't fix everything overnight for free and they don't result in some billionaire scumbag getting richer, so they "don't work". >>100257 strewth. Prematurely ending reconstruction was the greatest mistake in american history. >>100258 >jews having zero trouble most of the jews that came to america were middle class to wealthy. Most of the blacks that came to america were livestock. If you want another comparison, think of the Italians or the Irish, who were both at one point almost synonymous with the criminal underclass in the US, because the Italians and Irish that came to america were mostly dirt poor. But they gradually integrated with society and in time came to be accepted under the umbrella of "white". There are so many other, more local examples as well, every city has parts of town that used to be "ethnic" and "dangerous" but have since mellowed out as those minorities came to be accepted in society. Blacks are unique because their subjugation was so complete that most of them don't even really have a motherland any more. It also wasn't until a few generations ago that they were even legally considered equal to whites, something that most other minorities never needed to deal with. >>100259 >as it is the only continent to entirely fail socially, politically, and economically after the withdrawl of colonial activity. Lumping a whole continent together like that sure is a choice, you're waving your hands so much that this statement basically has no meaning. What do you mean "withdrawl of colonial activity", when France's last colonies are in Africa? What do you mean "only contintent to fail", when there are several major countries in Africa that are doing as well or better than several major countries in Asia?

>>100268 >I don't really see whats wrong with mass incarceration. Its a lot better than letting out murderers. Most of the people who are stuck in the prison system are not murderers, in fact if you go to prison you have a much higher chance of becoming a murderer due to the fact that they basically concentrate as many criminals in as small of a space as they can and deny them basic comforts and privacy. And then when you get out, you may find the only work available is crime. The US prison system exists in order to ensure there is always a large pool of cheap labor available. A nice side effect is that some murderers and rapists (the ones that can't afford to buy their freedom) are kept away from the population, temporarily, except they usually are worse when they get out. There is no excuse for it.

>>100271 >end ghetto-creating policies, fix property taxes and implement rent control in those areas so that they can be improved without pushing out the existing residents. this has been tried. when they were less policed, crime went up. i don't see why it is so hard for you mouthbreathers to understand. The black man was given every chance, built up, and even in his own home of Africa, he is an abject failure. You haven't accounted for every other place the black man has failed. Figures the Americans are so self-involved they think they are solely responsible for the failure of an entire group globally.

>>100274 >this has been tried. when they were less policed, crime went up. Where did I say "police less"? >The black man was given every chance, built up, and even in his own home of Africa, he is an abject failure. Except that's just totally not true. >You haven't accounted for every other place the black man has failed. Can you name one that was never conquered and subsequently raped?

>>100275 >Can you name one that was never conquered and subsequently raped? Ethiopia. Being conquered does not trun people into animals. Finland has beed colonized by Russia 100 years and by Sweden 200. Greece have been an Ottoman colonies for I don't even know how many centuries. In fact pretty much every country in the world have been conquered. Even England was a French (Normand) colony for a century. >Except that's just totally not true. And what ELSE do we have to give to them for them to finaly act like people. They are given a place in the best universities even if they don't deserve one, they are given free jobs at the top of society thanks to DEI, they are given infinite tax money. Name what will be enough.

>>100277 But Abyssinia was conquered

I feel like lot of people put wealth and money as some big motivator on things, while it just doesn't seem to be the case. For majority of human existence you couldn't have lasting wealth. Things decompose in the natural world so it would be weird to have some drive adjusted to that. Purpose of money is simply to get status, which is a far more older and powerful motivator. For this I actually believe getting richer has little impact on human happiness. We crave feeling having status over others, and that's something which is expressed by difference. I'm sure most would feel better having a 20k to their name while having everyone be poorer, than if you had million to your name and everyone else would have billions. We often have regions in the world where similar people live but in different economic situations, and these societies often are pretty similar. Asians for the most part don't really have big crime issues anywhere they are. Even walking in Asian slums you will be for the most part safe. And even if crime happens, it usually is something small like a pickpocket. Compare that to Latin America where someone can empty a mag in you for walking into the wrong alley. Now I'm going to sound really racist, but Africans are simply more primal than other places in the world. This isn't to say they are stupid, don't deserve rights, need eugenics or anything like that. But looking at their societies in the past and even now, they are way more focused on kinship. Or for that matter, bold displays of status and power. There's a reason most rap is about shooting and fuarrrking hundreds of women. This is what you did in Africa for centuries to get to the top so it must have stayed in some shape or form. Either cultural or genetic. Sadly saying this automatically puts you into a camp with scum who thinks we should take away rights for blacks.

>>100254 I think it's the "fatherless" part of the problem that stems from the Cotton [en]Gin[e] era. They would buy black dude away from his black gal and black kids. Said black kids would grow with all the traits of "безотцовщина" (bezottsovshchina) fatherless guys, without father model in mind. In my experience, growing up fatherless and then trying to reunite with father back ... is pizdec of a problem. So, here's the thing. My observable chain of fatherlessness can be linked to a WWII casualty. It's an *inter-generation trauma* jammit. And the govt here doesn't fund psychologist to discuss being fatherless here - the boundary between being a hallucinating SCH and a "normal muzhik" is not exactly recognized here as a problem.

>>100281 I mean, if USSR country has never been too bothered to fix this post-WWII psychological problem; then there's no need to be surprised a bunch of Blacks in the US of A have to live the lives of fatherless people "as is" until they snap.

>>100281 I grew up fatherless and am quite successful in live having never done nigger soykaf. Maybe because I'm not a nigger?

just as i said, lainchan is a disgusting nazi site, but this hurt the nazi mods so much they deleted the post.

>>100272 This sounds like the problem is letting these people out, not incarceration. If we wanted to use this population for cheap labour, why not just enslave them. There even was a specific carve out for this among the illegal post civil war constitution revisions. >>100281 you seem to be attributing magical powers to government psychologists, or psychologists in general. In my observations, they're not very powerful and will not do much in some disastrous situation like this. >>100279 can you name an european country that was not conquered and raped ? Even in the last century it has happened a number of times in a number of places. I'm less familiar with the history of the greater asiatic powers but they too have wars and conquests and rapes as well as recent history of being subject to foreign colonization and empire.

>>100286 oh look the libshits want to shut it down. SHUT IT DOWN OYYY

Imagine that, the thread gets called "nazi" and "special links" appear lul. >>100275 You didn't, it was an elaboration upon what you were saying. Rent control was tried, among many many many other things we were told "this will Raise the black man to his better nature". They all failed. All of them. Why is one group who has been given every chance owed any more? Why is it that the most successful of them are the most cross bread with non blacks? Again: why has africa not risen up like Asia, the Middle East, India, even South Anerica? Every single non-European place touched by the scourge of Colonialism & Imperialism HAVE got markedly better - EXCEPT AFRICA. I am tired of listening to lying little assholes like you tell me (I'm not even America) why we all OWE the black man for America's terrible original sin, but meanwhile EVERYWHERE the black man goes he is a failure. Anerica didn't go around and make eveybody stupid racist. I don't even care in the end, but TELL ME WHY I OWE THE BLACK MAN FOR HIS FAILURE WHEN HE WAS GIVEN EVERYTHING ALREADY. >>100281 Russians literally are 10,000x more successful even though a lot of them have the higest calling of being cannon fodder.

>>100286 >>100287 That didn't even look illegal to me lol. More like a random early 20s western girl from onlyfans.

>>100288 >Every single non-European place touched by the scourge of Colonialism & Imperialism HAVE got markedly better Latin America, countries born of imperialism and colonialism, have struggled with things like corruption, authoritarianism, economic stagnation and depression, and high crime rates. Would you rather live in the United States or Mexico? Not every country in Africa is a failure, some like Botswana have done well in comparison.

>>100290 >>100290 Easily would prefer any of South America to the best of Africa. Despite limited failures of S America due to American meddling, it is leagues better than Africa. Also curious that's the best you can offer is a weak "the place the Americans make sport of regularly has some problems, so ha, Africa isn't an outlier". False. also, fr South Africa and Rhodesia were lode stars of Africa for a hot minute.... wonder what happened?

>>100290 North America was even more thoroughly colonized than south america though both were utterly colonized.

>>100292 I personally didn't mention NA, but the natives here are almost too peaceful. They content themselves with very little. Honourable savages. Although the Canadian side gets a little spicy occasionally by saying things like "Idle No More" before they lose the thread again. But, not all too violent on the whole. What is the black man's excuse?

>>100292 Could we not speak of South-America as if it was one monolith ? yes? Why does it loom me that people try to moral- compass here, its some sort of hidden complex of having it better, then needing to belittle and pity to feel better about oneself. While having no idea about e.g. South America.

>>100293 >are almost too peaceful sure ok but they werent always like that we spent like 3 and a half centuries fighting a continual frontier war before getting to this current situation. In any case immigrants are just as american as anyone so I see no reason to make this distinction between 'native' indians vs the rest of us. In most terms modern americans are vastly more wealthy than they were 500 years ago, thanks to colonization. Same goes for africans and S. americans etc etc

>>100294 That city picture looks like an european city populated by europeans. The writing is in an european language. The entire thing reeks of colonization. Like I said, s. America was utterly colonized.

>>100296 this is one of the few functioning places in brazil. you can choose side by side. white or black brazil

>>100291 >Despite limited failures of S America due to American meddling, it is leagues better than Africa It is extremely funny that you claim all of South America's "limited" failures are due to imperialism while absolutely none of Africa's problems are due to it. Your assertion is also incorrect. Let us take Venezuela for an example. The country was relatively economically successful and stable, but growth seen was squandered by economic mismanagement and corruption, which led into a long slow decline accompanied by further mismanagement, which means today it has mass unemployment, one of the highest homicide rates, hyperinflation etc. The United States had nothing to do with causing its decline. South America also sees homicide rates comparable and worse to Africa >Africa isn't an outlier Never said this nor implied it >Easily would prefer any of South America to the best of Africa By "any", I'm assuming you mean only countries that are not objectively worse than the best of Africa, because that's the only way your sentence makes any sense.

>>100284 Every place without automatic ban/shadowban of people who disagree with the mods become nazi, or as we used to call that, normal. Yes, wanting a functional society, criminals to be in jail, living off your work and not welfare and not allowing the worse people on the planet in by million, that is, was and will always be normal.

>>100294 Having been to South America, it is leagues better than Africa. Any SA country. >>100298 >By "any", I'm assuming you mean only countries that are not objectively worse than the best of Africa, because that's the only way your sentence makes any sense. So your reading comprehension or concept of aggregations are lacking? Noted. >>100298 >Your assertion is also incorrect. Let us take Venezuela for an example. Is it though? Venezuela is STILL better than the best of Africa. Despite all the kvetching in the thread by those who love blacks... you haven't made a compelling case. Africa is an abject failure. Every place blacks touch becomes lesser. The black & white Brazil stuff is very revealing. Also, mentioning that South America has suffered a lot from imperialism is to illustrate that they *still do so much better* than africa. Asia, the middle east, india, the americas... all touched by something clearly harmful yet Africa remains a soykaf hole of black failure... All the excuses you bring to bear and refuse to address the points and the ultimate question: Why is Africa uniquely incapable? Why are blacks uniquely prone to failure? Why? I know you'll spin a yarn again, because you can't be honest about the topic, you'll just keep whining about how the blacks have it so bad, and are somehow universally singled out to suffer when meanwhile in their own native lands they are still abject failures. Even SA, despite their struggles, are doing vastly better. Why is it the case? You haven't explained.

>>100300 I agree with you but not all of Africa is planet of the apes. Rwanda for instance is okayish now that they have removed the problematic niggers. Of course it's not Denmark. The best niggers are worth the worse white. I will change my mind as soon as I will be presented with one exemple of a place that have received a lot of them and that improved.

>>100280 >Purpose of money is simply to get status I think I agree it becomes a means to reach a status, once you get enough money to live well enough. Meaning to start a family with the financial safety net required to keep it afloat during hard times. As long as you can't reach that point financially, acquiring money becomes a means to an end. that end being to survive. (which is why you say africans are simply more primal than other places.) While money only becomes this a way to survive, other forms of wealth take that mean of displaying status. Getting bitches and controlling territories become things that shows that status of a person, a community or a country. >Either cultural or genetic. Sadly saying this automatically puts you into a camp with scum who thinks we should take away rights for blacks. I think it's because either it lacks depth, or people don't want to reckon with the fact that high powers have been abusing africa and other third world countries. Amassing their wealth. So much so that it becomes their culture. Colonisers took all their gold so what's left to show status becomes anything but money. at least, for the common folk over there. wealth, or a lack of wealth, defo defines a culture My post might seem disjointed a bit i think, but I agree that getting richer beyond what is considered living comfortably does not seem to make some any happier. (for a more direct example, take Notch) There seems to be a plateau at some point for how much money motivates a person according to their amassed wealth. if someone finds a way that makes alot of money for them to live good, they'll do it as long as the risk isn't great. and if the risk is you get thrown in prison with a bed to sleep in, with a potential community to live with? soykaf. beats trading drugs and risk getting shot. might as well hustle till you get caught and get a lil forced early retirement. i'm simplifying the soykaf out of this and i'm prolly wrong even then, but like that's has to be the gist of it for why crimes are high in poor places, right? all people want in the end is to find ANY way to live comfortably. that's my thoughts. pic grabbed my attention.

>>100288 >They all failed. All of them. Are you thinking of some specific program, or are you just saying "they tried rent control in neighborhood A but neighborhood B is still a ghetto!" >Why is one group who has been given every chance owed any more? Hey remember when literally everything was taken from your ancestors and then when they finally got back their right to, for instance, not be casually raped by their owner, they still were systematically prevented from gaining any significant amount of wealth, and also targeted by terrorists if they got too successful? Remember how you and your kin just bounced right back from that after a couple generations?

>>100302 rights - in nature you make right. If you cant then thats on you. If a gov stops functioning where are your "rights" you either make then or someone else does. I mind trapped, its like the gov is you big mommy , you need to ask for "rights" - slave mentality up the wazoo

>>100303 Rent control always lead to disaster. The cost of everything stay the same so it only lead to: >Low to no maintenance >Fewer offer, leading to an even worse market >Have to know people to get something to rent or you stay in the street >The only alternative is to offer additional things that are undeclared to rent, like sexual services You want an neighborhood to become good? Flood it with cops, get judge who send criminals to jail and not to the streets and have taxes that are attractive to businesses so jobs are created. >Hey remember when None of them remember that. Their grandmother told them that she was forced to sit at the back of the bus. This is not why they kill each other. Eastern Europeans had it worse and still they act like people.

>>100303 >Are you thinking of some specific program, or are you just saying "they tried rent control in neighborhood A but neighborhood B is still a ghetto!" Are you daft? ALL means ALL. You're willfully stupid or something. >Hey remember when literally everything was taken from your ancestors and then when they finally got back their right to, for instance, not be casually raped by their owner The irish are doing good these days, as are the chinese... Your type plugs their ears because muh racism. I get it, nobody wants to be bigoted, but have you ever considered that some people are genuinely less capable? The evidence is staggering if you would even look at it. All your bad faith manuvering, faking, and so on... it's so old and tired. The reason hardcore racists get power is soykafheads like you refusing to be honest. I don't care what becomes of your blacks, but at least have the balls to be honest. I am laying out my cards: blacks are on the whole dumber and less likely to create and maintain a productive social environment where any and all people can be safe and live fulfilling lives. That's the entire synopsis, and africa is the proof you and everybody else cannot address. Every single social program short of prison has failed the black man. If the common denominator to every failure is the black man, it is time to look at the fact he might be culpable in his own state of affairs. >>100301 >Rwanda for instance is okayish now that they have removed the problematic niggers. Of course it's not Denmark. Ironically true to an extent. But they basically had to prune the population artifically to get there. This thread is stupid guys. You got diehard racists and so-called anti-racists both bullshitting while ignoring the truth on the ground. Do you all realize that? I know it uncomfortable, trust me I took forever to look at the truth, but after all this time the situation has not improved.

>>100300 You said that you would "easily would prefer any of South America to the best of Africa". Since "any" includes the worse of South America, it naturally follows that you would prefer the worst of South America to the best of Africa. You didn't mention aggregations or preferring the whole of South America to the whole of Africa, so stop squirming. >Venezuela is STILL better than the best of Africa. It seems like your reading comprehension is pretty poor as well, because I wasn't using Venezuela as an example of a place that is worse than the best of Africa (even though it is), but as a counterexample to your assertion that South America's failures were due to American meddling. Despite that, your rebuttal basically amounts in its totality to "no it isn't". I'm going to arbitrarily say that Botswana is the best of Sub-Saharan Africa, and it has a higher GDP per capita than Venezuela, a lower homicide rate, it ranks higher on the Human Development Index, lower corruption etc. If you have any evidence that contradicts my argument, please offer it. The point is not that Latin America as a whole is comparable to Africa, which it is not. >mentioning that South America has suffered a lot from imperialism is to illustrate that they *still do so much better* than africa It is worth noting that South America gained its independence more than a century before Africa did >Why is Africa uniquely incapable? I'm not well read enough on the subject to give a definitive answer, but I would guess that it's a mixture of things, including but not exclusive to culture and rampant instability. Poverty and former imperialism probably do play a role as well, but not to the extent that a lot of people claim. But I never started arguing with you about that, only that your claim every place touched by imperialism is doing fine compared to Africa. >you'll just keep whining about how the blacks have it so bad, and are somehow universally singled out to suffer Never said this, nor do I believe it.

>>100307 >it naturally follows that you would prefer the worst of South America to the best of Africa. You didn't mention aggregations or preferring the whole of South America to the whole of Africa, so stop squirming I did, and you just proved my point that you don't understansld aggregates. Best self-own you've made. I would take the worst of south america over the best of africa. oops said it again! >It seems like your reading comprehension is pretty poor as well, because I wasn't using Venezuela as an example of a place that is worse than the best of Africa (even though it is), but as a counterexample to your assertion that South America's failures were due to American meddling. Jfc retard with compound interest. You do know your point isn't as vindicating as you seem to think? Ven's internal problems are part of USA's constant flagrant meddling, you can't pretend otherwise. The fact you still think it worse than africa is soykafpost-tier bullshit. >It is worth noting that South America gained its independence more than a century before Africa did China et al have about a century including their communist self-sabotage and are still leagues better. >I'm not well read enough on the subject to give a definitive answer, but I would guess that it's a mixture of things, including but not exclusive to culture and rampant instability. Huh, there's that weird word that describes every black place. "Instability". Unstable black neighbourhoods, and an unstable black continent. Weird connection. >only that your claim every place touched by imperialism is doing fine compared to Africa. You're either a liar or retarded. Africa has so much and yet a failure. Common element? Blacks. Your "vindication" with South America is just more examples of.... *squinting* oh soykaf Black people again. Weird... >Never said this, nor do I believe it. Finally, let's deport all the blacks so we can have a nice home again.

>>100305 >Rent control always lead to disaster. The cost of everything stay the same The costs of everything stay the same and the rent stays the same, so the only reason for rent control to fail is that some corrupt bugger wants to make the number go up. I agree that income-gated rent control, which I think you're talking about, is a stupid plan. >None of them remember that. Their grandmother told them that she was forced to sit at the back of the bus. The point is that poverty and crime are generational, you inherit your situation from your parents, and in the not that distant past these people had an objectively really bad situation. It was never *just* sitting in the back of the bus, it was being systematically excluded from, for instance, access to loans, access to jobs, access to education, etc. etc. >Eastern Europeans had it worse and still they act like people. If you mean the situation of the serfs, they had it way better. They got to keep their own language, their own customs, and they had the right to their own person and to marry. >>100306 >Are you daft? ALL means ALL. So what I'm getting is, you don't actually know what has been tried where, you don't actually know which policies lead to which outcomes, and you don't really care. >The irish are doing good these days, as are the chinese... Yes, the Irish are a great example of how you can recover from being a slave race: rebel against your masters and expel them, then establish your own country. It's important to note that, like the eastern European serfs, they had a better situation than the blacks in America, and even most parts of Africa. As for the Chinese, what are you referring to? >I get it, nobody wants to be bigoted, but have you ever considered that some people are genuinely less capable? It's definitely true that some people are less capable than others, but your line of reasoning is that some people are less *deserving* than others, which I simply don't agree with. If someone is less capable, they need more help to get through life. I don't believe blacks are less capable than whites to a degree that really matters, but you and some other posters' arguments don't even make sense if you do believe that. You basically say that they are inferior, therefore they need to be controlled or exterminated. You use dehumanizing language to justify this. For instance, another poster has implied that "blacks don't act like people", except they totally do. Even in the ghetto, or in the streets of Lagos, most of them are basically doing what you would do in that situation, trying to work or otherwise get money so they can support themselves. The wealthy among them study and go to school and start careers, and they often emigrate. >less likely to create and maintain a productive social environment where any and all people can be safe and live fulfilling lives. If America is what you get when whites design society, then they're pretty soykaf at that as well. >africa is the proof you and everybody else cannot address. Africa is a big place that has had a lot of things happen in it, like any other continent. I don't consider it proof that the Africans are stupid backwards people any more than I consider the European Union proof that Europeans are particularly peaceful.

>>100307 >It is worth noting that South America gained its independence more than a century before Africa did He was obviously talking about the CIA and not about the king of Spain. I agree with you on how some part of Africa are only partially soykafholes, but why do you refuse to see that different people are different? Black people simply aren't compatible with high trust society. You have not answered my question: What, in your opinion, will be eough to help black people?

>>100310 >He was obviously talking about the CIA and not about the king of Spain. If you include CIA/ other foreign meddling, Africa is still not independent. >Black people simply aren't compatible with high trust society. Do you think African villages aren't high trust societies? Do you think American suburbia is a high trust society? >What, in your opinion, will be eough to help black people? Since the situation has actually been improving for blacks for some time, I think a lot of things must be going right.

>>100307 oh wow moving those goal posts all over the place, and making "mistakes" that scream bad faith. you can't genuinely think you're doing anything other than looking like an utter fool?

>>100309 >So what I'm getting is, you don't actually know what has been tried where, you don't actually know which policies lead to which outcomes, and you don't really care. Bro, you're not owed an itemized list. Please argue in good faith or fuarrrk off. You provided rent control, and it was torn apart. Please tell us what more you want? >>100309 >Yes, the Irish are a great example of how you can recover from being a slave race: rebel against your masters and expel them, then establish your own country South Africa really should... oh right they did. Annnnnnnd.....

>>100308 You've failed to contend or address most of the major points I've brought up. This can mean two things: you're either trolling or highly retarded, and both are equally plausible. Eitherway, this isn't worth my time anymore, so have a good one, I enjoyed our spat. >>100310 >He was obviously talking about the CIA and not about the king of Spain. I know that, but it's still worth pointing out when making comparisons >You have not answered my question You never asked me this question, you asked a different lainon that question

>>100311 Nobody is independant in this case. Europe is an American colony and still, they act like people. >Do you think African villages aren't high trust societies if borrowing is a local tradition, then no. If the custom when you see a kid that you don't know misbehave is to beat the kid because otherwise he will grow uneducated, then no. >Do you think American suburbia is a high trust society? The white trash trailer park is fine in comparison of the hood and the cartel side. >Since the situation has actually been improving for blacks for some time, I think a lot of things must be going right. Right. Infinite tax money, DEI in eduation and in hiring practices only improve their situation a bit. Let's be honest there, nothing will ever be enough.

>>100314 >You've failed to contend or address most of the major points I've brought up. This can mean two things: you're either trolling or highly retarded, and both are equally plausible. Eitherway, this isn't worth my time anymore, so have a good one, I enjoyed our spat Get's called out so he leaves. Typical. >>100311 >If you include CIA/ other foreign meddling, Africa is still not independent. China and Cuba are fine strangely enough. Skill issue? Low-skill black man? >>100314 >ask me The question stands to everybody here. How bad faith can you be? >>100309 >Yes, the Irish are a great example of how you can recover from being a slave race: rebel against your masters and expel them, then establish your own country. It's important to note that, like the eastern European serfs, they had a better situation than the blacks in America, and even most parts of Africa. >As for the Chinese, what are you referring to? Jfc I don't understand why you people are incapable of honesty. If the only way to defend blacks is: * Lying * Moving goal posts * Quitting with self congratulations * Refusing to answer * "Mistaking" context * Arguing semantics over substance * Stawmaŋning * Deception * Ignoring history * and so on... you have lost. The anti-rácist interlocutors here are doing all of these things. I am pushing on the facts, and you all cannot meet reality and explain it, or even account for it. Many people here are very moderate on race, myself included, but we're not interested in your cóck and bull stories of how "bad" the black has it. In the end, the consequence will be (and trust me, it WILL BE) much less pleasant, much more explicitly racist (as in the kill blackie types) WILL become the de facto voice people turn to. Just be honest ffs. Explain these things without making excuses or lying for once. Just once, I fuarrrking dare you to be fuarrrking honest.

>>100313 >You provided rent control, and it was torn apart. It wasn't "torn apart", you just dismissed it. Rent control has been conclusively shown to be an effective short-term tool to help existing renters in terms of not getting hit with new, higher rents. This is exactly the purpose I brought it up for in >>100271 . Long term it can have issues. >>100313 >Annnnnnnd..... and the Africans there are doing way better than they were under apartheid? And the country's GDP per capita is about double what it was in 1990? What's your point here? >>100315 alright so you're not engaging in good faith. fuarrrk off, mister "they don't act like people".

>>100317 Globally gdp is up. Rent controls existed and did not reduce crime. Crime existed at an all time high in places like New York. I could go on, but talking to a retard is exhausting.

>>100316 The point is to frustrate and halt any attempt at comprehending reality.

>>100316 >China and Cuba are fine strangely enough. Skill issue? Low-skill black man? Fun fact: most people in Cuba have African blood. >>100318 >Rent controls existed and did not reduce crime. Crime existed at an all time high in places like New York. Rent controls aren't a crime reduction measure, they need to be implemented as part of a much broader policy suite to be useful.

>>100302 >I think it's because either it lacks depth, or people don't want to reckon with the fact that high powers have been abusing africa and other third world countries. Amassing their wealth. So much so that it becomes their culture. Colonisers took all their gold so what's left to show status becomes anything but money. at least, for the common folk over there. wealth, or a lack of wealth, defo defines a culture Yeah, but this assumes that African culture somehow started just few centuries ago. Which isn't the case. There was time before colonization and it wasn't that great too. I have no doubts that Africa is getting exploited to this day. But it's also true that there isn't a long line of culture set up there which pushes a society towards low violence or wealth. To take an extreme, I believe a place like Netherlands got a perfect blend to become a rich society. It's incredibly small and has next to no resources, which pushed the population to focus on trading. Move few centuries into the future with such pressure and you will in most cases end up with wealth even if you started with one. Jews are also one group which had similar pressures applied to them, and they also often end up incredibly successfully financially, to the point of envy. It helps also that lot of Europe got free boost from being so close to the Roman Empire. And later on, Islamic societies. Both provided easy access to knowledge and development. For that matter, East Asia will also do well cause people there really respect cooperation and law. Probably because of centuries of Confucianism. Once again here you had centuries of pressure for traits which lead to wealth. In Africa from what I know, no place had similar pressures. There was no reason to not just live life in a very primal way. Unless you had a better organized neighbor which you had to compete with, you didn't need to get clever with your strategies. If you live in such a way while other places have big pressures on them to out-compete each other, you will fall behind sooner or later.

>>100320 >Fun fact: most people in Cuba have African blood. Crossbreeds aren't the win you think it is.

>>100321 It is interesting to think about how you could make sub-Saharan Africa better off by like, engineering a cultural rennaissance. In some ways it looks like Nigeria might be the place to do that, Lagos in particular could be a thriving city if the leaders of Nigeria played their cards right. Which they may or may not be. I haven't looked very closely at modern Nigerian politics. >>100322 Quite true, all the racists love it when black men have babies with white women.

>>100317 >and the Africans there are doing way better than they were under apartheid? No, they had electricity and running water all the time back then and the murder rate was low. >Muh GDP It does not represent the quality of life of the people and normal countries like England have quadrupled their GDP since the 90's. It's now a third world soykafhole and it used to be a first world nation.

>>100321 >It helps also that lot of Europe got free boost from being so close to the Roman Empire. And later on, Islamic societies. Both provided easy access to knowledge and development. Jesus. The fall of the Roman empire was a disaster that took centuries to fix. The preislamic world was the most advenced civilisation of its time but the military conquest of Islam ruined it. They managed to ruin even Egypt. None of this things had helped anyone. Beside: >Europe is doing great because they have been colonized >Africa isn't because they have been colonized.

>>100324 >No, they had electricity and running water all the time back then and the murder rate was low. >>100325 >The preislamic world was the most advenced civilisation of its time but the military conquest of Islam ruined it. Midwit detected.

>>100326 oh sorry I didn't complete a thought. >>No, they had electricity and running water all the time back then not really. >and the murder rate was low. indeed, have you heard that the murder rate in the USSR was also very low?

>>100325 Learn to read what I wrote nigga >Jesus. The fall of the Roman empire was a disaster that took centuries to fix I didn't say anything about this. I just said that Europe either is directly under what used to be Roman territory, or is close enough to it that they can still get inspiration from it. It's easier to develop if you have something to imitate than if you have nothing. >The preislamic world was the most advenced civilisation of its time but the military conquest of Islam ruined it Yeah, I'm sure the Ottoman Empire was some backwater which no one ever heard of. It's a coincidence that lot of most treasured art from Spain has direct Islamic influence. >Europe is doing great because they have been colonized >Africa isn't because they have been colonized. I said Africa is doing bad cause it was too isolated for a too long period of time. LEARN TO READ NIGGA

>>100328 >It's easier to develop if you have something to imitate than if you have nothing. Africans had the Muslims and Europe. The black people in America have no excuses. > Ottoman Empire It did nothing but to run over every people they have conquered. The Roman empire that you mentioned, at least, had its achievements. I asked AI about the most valued art in Spain and nothing seem even remotely Islamic to me. Some parts of black Africa had acess to civilised powers thousads of years before Europe did. >>100327 Did they had a planing of when they will turn the power off? They have to do that now. Not a single country that can be considered good have one. The fall of the USSR was indeed an humanitarian crisis. We had to send food and clothes to them.

>>100329 >I asked AI about the most valued art in Spain and nothing seem even remotely Islamic to me. almost anything identifiably Spanish (especially Castillian) has Islamic influences. >Did they had a planing of when they will turn the power off? They have to do that now. >Not a single country that can be considered good have one. Pretty much every country does blackouts sometimes. Eskom expanded access to electricty to black people but didn't increase their generation capacity by as much, which caused the problems they have today.

>>100329 >I asked AI about the most valued art in Spain and nothing seem even remotely Islamic to me. Read this soykaf nigga instead of talking with Negrosoft AI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_architecture

>>100331 There is no possible doubt that you are arguing in bad faith. You are aware that blackouts are part of the everyday life in SA, that they are planned and that there is no moment of time where all of SA is powered, yet you frame it as if it was random the blackouts once every few years. >>100332 I looked at your link. It show things specifically from the time when Spain was an Arab colony. This culture have many laws against beauty and it's not a surprise that it does not reach the cultural level of Picasso, Dali, Miro, El Greco or Goya. Ho, by the way >14 centuries of brutal colonialism >Still behave like people

>>100335 You claimed that people had better access to electricity under apartheid, but that is not true: only white people had better access to electricity under apartheid. Black people just didn't have it, and for all the failures of Eskom, I'd much rather have access to electricity 50% of the time than 0% of the time. In fact many arguments about South Africa, or the 'Belle Epoch' of the southern US for that matter, boil down to people saying "it was so much better _for white people_ back then". And yeah it probably was better _for white people_. >>14 centuries of brutal colonialism >>Still behave like people People in sub-Saharan Africa also behave like people. The fact that you repeat this stupid refrain just means you're either totally ignorant or motivated by hate.

>>100336 People who paid for their electricity used to have electricity. Now people who pay for their electricity sometime have it. This is not something that happen in a good country. Most of those beloved black people in SA were illegal immigrants, that's why the country was not made to accomodate them. Now, I will say that it's better to be black and poor than to be black and dead, so SA was better even for black people. And nobody eat human flesh or do necklacing because they have been conquered.

>>100336 >like people I say this to my dog a lot "aww he acts like people" but i never mistake him for anything other than an animal. >hate negative. i love my dog, and i think it cruel to act like animals are people. if they act like people, it is still cruel to treat them as if they really were. have compassion, the african continent would make a good animal reserve if everybody got over their weird complexes that some animals are indeed quite developed but remain animals.

>>100338 you have to admit that africans are remarkable animals if men they are not. No other animal can speak or be taught to read or write. No other animal produces so much viable offspring with humans, but so could neanderthals I think we can safely assume. If neanderthals were around today would we insist they were the same species and race is only skin deep? I think some people would want to. And yet we classify different species of birds because they like to eat slightly different foods, and have subtly different beak shapes. Or because they sing a little different or have different coloration.

This chart is bullshit for white men, as it's from the US and can include questionable "white" people that are not of European origin for "anti-racism" reasons, like some hispanics declaring themselves as white instead of hispanic, therefore inflating the murder rate of people of actual European origin, since Latin America is the most violent place on Earth (yes, even above Africa). In reality, in most European countries, the murder rate is lower than in Asia.

>>100340 And the difference between the US and Europe is not due to gun ownership rates, as there are states in Europe like Austria, Serbia, Finland and Switzerland that have extremely high gun ownership rates, but significantly lower murder rates than "US whites" (diluted with a lot of non-whites). To put it otherwise: Europe is the continent with the lowest homicide rates in the world, comparable to East Asia, despite having a lot of guns, unlike Japan, China and South Korea where they are completely derezzed for private ownership and not a single citizen can own one. The rest of Asia, where it's not derezzed, is comparable to Africa. As you'd have guessed it, it turns out guns don't cause violence, people do.

>>100340 And as you can see in the case of Sweden, Germany, Finland, if you import the violent people, you become a violent country where rape is rampant and comparable to South America or Africa.

Funny how quickly the mask comes off when you start trying to have a reasonable discussion with these people. Anyone who posts this nonsense should be sterilized, they are clearly not capable of living in a high-trust society.

You guys are missing the point of this thread there is no denying the fact that black people commit disproportionate amounts of crime and the question isn't "why" this problem persists but what would be the best way to resolve this

>>100344 are you referring to the racists or the anti-racists?

i don't know, why don't you ask on reddit? also, putting "unironically" at the beginning of your loaded question is not nearly as clever of a smokescreen as you think it is. i also like how you throw in "what do you guys think?" at the end, like as if it wasn't obvious enough what you are trying to do. here's a loaded question for you: what would happen to you if nobody had replied to this thread at all and it just sank to the bottom without a single human response? what would happen to you if that happened with everything you ever posted, what if every thread and comment you made just went completely unregarded? i bet you would probably think you were shadowderezzed, you would assume it's some kind of conspiracy against you by the admin/mods, it couldn't possibly be that you are not creative or interesting enough to get the attention of any other human being and that you're just a lowest common denominator dope. you should be thankful that you are such a common archetype and that you have plenty of other fellow dullards to respond to your desperate pleas for attention and keep you company, you should be thankful that people are stupid enough to waste their time on you and give you the validation you need to keep you from realizing that you are worthless and killing yourself.

>>100348 Did the mods delete your last post?

Explain why I should be against race and not culture Blacks and hispanics who take up white culture are much better off than the rats who live in the ghettos Black "culture" is a burden, but there have been blacks who have made themselves to be wonderful people who contribute to society

>>100351 much better than, but not equivalent to. Culture is not entirely heritable, and the effect, while real, is not the end of the story. >>100346 well you can punish criminals. Europe used to have very aggressive capital punishment for crimes that nowadays are relatively common place. We could resume that and, quite possibly, given five hundred or a thousand years, we'd see some significant improvements.

>>100352 >if we hung people for stealing an apple again we might see improvements in a thousand years what

>>100347 I'd argue there are even fully home-grown offshoots of black and especially hispanic culture that are just as good if not better than white culture, likewise there are offshoots of white culture that are basically identical to the worst of black culture. But, focusing on how culture shapes people and how certain cultures should be suppressed doesn't fit very nicely into either the racist worldview or the liberal worldview, so it is often left to the likes of W.E.B. Du Bois, to be endlessly debated and analyzed by leftists without actually accomplishing anything. >>100352 >Europe used to have very aggressive capital punishment for crimes that nowadays are relatively common place.

>>100353 well you'd see the improvements sooner. Killing thieves reduces thievery, and theft is a serious crime. If I ever steal, go ahead and hang me. >>100354 Common place...significantly driven by recent imports. Racial crime patterns are already well covered in this thread.

>>100344 >>100355 > If I ever steal, go ahead and hang me. Gladly

>>100354 sorry, forgot video. I hope I don't have to explain why your position fails even basic scrutiny by common sense...

>>100357 Common sense is, as they say, quite uncommon. Kindly provide your rebuttal!

>>100357 is posting webm's verboten now? https://storage.to/q6Q9VaIdX

>>100354 >doesn't fit very nicely into either the racist worldview or the liberal worldview then it must be the correct position because both of those groups are fuarrrking retards

>>100359 I really don't think Europe needs to have middle ages esque laws in modern day like some middle eastern soykafhole

>>100359 For those who can't watch the video, I'll summarize; its a guy basically pointing out that in the middle ages, tracking of people and investigation of crimes was poor, vast majority of crimes go unpunished, and consequently in order to make up for the balance of 'you'll probably get away with anything' regarding thievery et cetera, the choice was to inflict extremely serious punishments; mutilations executions and what have you. Running prison was expensive, they didn't do it except when financially justifiable (prisoner and his family is rich and powerful). Punishments generally were inflicted very shortly after conviction which also happened comparatively shortly after the crime vs nowadays for instance. These are OK points, but this discussion is about how systems come about and not about which systems are better, and which are better over short time scales vs medium vs long time scales. Why do we have the system that we have nowadays ? Why are executions so rare and so slow to be carried out ? Why are serious recidivists let out time and again ? For the purpose of this thread I'm less interested in these questions than in how to make the situation better. Typically we talk about punishments having some synthesis of several means of action. You can remove the criminal, either by imprisonment, execution, or exile. You can discourage the prospective criminal, by threat of punishment, and the recidivist by the memory of it, you can compel the criminal to make right what he has made wrong, to some possible extent, and you can identify the criminal to the public, by making him identifiable. By many metrics long incarceration seems to me to be just pointless. It is not especially cheap, and its purpose is more easily accomplished and surely accomplished by merely executing the criminal. There's an argument for letting criminals age out of their criminality, but it also ages them out of a lot of their useful life. If you do it, it should be in some way productive. The constitution allows for slavery in these cases, if we're doing long incarceration we should make them work if at all possible. In any case whatever economic factors lead to the medieval system, and I don't think that the popular consensus of the middle ages was that execution of criminals was an eugenic project to strengthen the race and facilitate high trust societies, its very possible that an effect of it was to remove the bloodlines most incompatible with such a society. If you bring in a bunch of people not bred for such a society as ours then naturally they'll not cooperate in the same fashion.

>>100361 I agree, just remove the foreigners and most of this problem goes away.

>>100363 I mean, yeah, no soykaf

>>100270 You may be attempting to debate with someone that can't understand per capita. I'd suggest they read The Bell Curve, but they may burst into soy flavored flames. OP. Have you read Race or Mongrel? Useful for rebutting the "melting pot" psy-op.

>>100365 >Race or Mongrel? I have not Can you give me a brief summary?

>>100361 Our culture use guilt as the main factor limiting our actions. Our justie system, our politic, our religion is centeredaround guilt. Some other cultures use shame for the same effect. Some other culture use fear. >In cultural anthropology, the distinction between a guilt society (or guilt culture), shame society (also shame culture or honor-shame culture), and a fear society (or culture of fear) has been used to categorize different cultures. The differences can apply to how behavior is governed with respect to government laws, business rules, or social etiquette. This classification has been applied especially to so called "apollonian" societies, sorting them according to the emotions they use to control individuals (especially children) and maintaining social order, swaying them into norm obedience and conformity. The terminology was popularized by Ruth Benedict in The Chrysanthemum and the Sword, who described American culture as a "guilt culture" and Japanese culture as a "shame culture". People who have a fear based culture can not act respectully in a shame or guilt country. There is only 3 possibilites for us: >They do not live with us >We suffer their crimes >We change our culture for a fear based one I wish there was the 4th option of changing them but I don't see how.

>>100367 really the only logical position is to kick out anyone who refuses to assimilate to your nation's values

There's the thing where 'what if the schizos are the real sane people', what if the sane thing to be doing is rioting and chimping out? Things are fuarrrking horrible here, everyone's scamming everyone, there's really weird and powerful forces in play. Maybe everyone else is wrong for taking it lying down, being passive, blocking out the noise and numbing ourselves. Of course like the schizos are having a bad time and their decisions and actions are making things worse, it's the same for them. But maybe the impulse isn't wrong.

hey rush, first time caller longtime listener and i got a totally serious question for you. why do liberals hate freedom? i will listen off the air for your answer.

>>100370 Freedom means the freedom to disagree. Of course it's hated, the same talking points and lies have to be repeated and celebrated. If people are free to refuse the delusions then the deluded will be forced to confront their delusions or tire themselves maintaining them by themselves.

prokies (overwhelmingly white and jewish) commit more crimes than any lumpen or proletarian but they aren't counted on the bourgeois crime statistics

>>100254 Why do racists have to make this weird bait where they go out of their way to try and assault you with stats as a long winded way of saying they don't like a group? Say it with me "I don't like niggers." Its not that hard. Your dislike of blacks or whatever has nothing to do with crime rates, sociology etc whatever. You just don't like em but for some reason you don't have the balls to say it. >>100367 No, we use law and social coercion to control people's behavior. Ruth Bennedict's book was nonsense. She never even went to Japan and got her whole impression of Japanese culture by watching movies. >>100257 This. The option to create stable and wealthy communities was there during reconstruction but the blacks never got their 3 acres and a mule. >>100258 The Jews were never enslaved (ignoring Zio lies about Egypt). >>100259 I don't think you know the first thing about Africa. If you did, you'd know half the countries there are still de facto ruled by France. All the resources are owned by big multinationals aligned with foreign countries with their own proxy armies. Africa was a major battleground during the Cold War. Again, why are you making these crappy arguments. You don't like black people. Just say it. You can't really justify your beliefs any other way because you're too ignorant about the specifics of African societies, economy, anthropology etc. your line is simple "I don't like nigger." So why not be honest and just say that? >>100373 This.

>>100374 >The Jews were never enslaved (ignoring Zio lies about Egypt). The exodus of out Egypt, though ahistorical, is literally central to the jewish faith. Why the fuarrrk would it be a zionist lie, rather than a jewish one (not that it is)?

>>100374 even "i hate niggers" is a smokescreen, what it really is is "i think i am an underappreciated genius" which is even more of a universally cringe-worthy thing to believe let alone say out loud with a straight face. they are trying to use their whiteness as justification for their own feelings of unwarranted self-importance, they don't have the intelligence or the confidence or even a good enough command of their own language to pass themselves off as elite intellectuals so they fall back on the only thing they really have in common with the elite class of western society, which is their skin color.

>>100376 Holy delusionalposting, batman. Do you really believe this? You're just arbitrarily deciding that must be the case? I'm not anyone who has posted in here, but I hate niggers because they fuarrrk everything up. I have to be in hypervigilance until the proximity is great enough, because they have low impulse control and just decide to do something when it pops into their head. Hating niggers is just a danger mitigation. It's like people who are afraid of snakes and spiders, they're not afraid of snakes or spiders because they feel superior. They are afraid of them because they can do some damage. Try occam's razor... Or at least ask people instead of just making silly assumptions.

>>100257 This wasn't really an option though. The war wasn't fantastically popular on the North, and the South surrendered with the understanding that they'd be treated more or less fairly and reenter into the union. If you were going to massacre the south, the war would have resumed and continued wrecking the country north and south. Maybe in the end you'd have achieved what you suggest, maybe, but a massive massive cost. And the civil war was already ripe with horrific destruction.

>>100340 >>100341 >>100342 This.

>>100376 This exmplifies the fundamental proble with modern "critical" analysis: ascribing intent, motivation, or causation to human behaviour. Take a read through a modern "ai critique" or something to the effect of analyzing the historical development of machines. You will find littered throughout phrases like "X did Y, not because Z, but W" where W is usually something akin to whiteness or its derivative products. Ultimately it is projection. The idea people do things for exactly the reasons they claim up front might be strange to people who manufacture conspiracy from historical developments under the guise of materialist analysis, but perhaps people here talking about their qualms with the theories posited by the academic anti-racist establishment have already laid bare their motives and wishes. From your post, I suspect you're longing so much to be recognized as a genius. Congratulations, you tapped into the formula, you are now recognized.

>>100376 under appreciated genius here fwiw >>100374 >the jews were never enslaved what about the babylonian situation ? What about the German situation more recently ? Obviously someone has already discussed the egyptian situation.

>>100380 I took a few crit studies classes, and can confirm: it is a smarmy place full of self-important pseuds.

>the thread about race and crime devolves into retarded jewish conspiracy theories imagine my shock

>>100385 Well most of american institutions are controlled by zionists. It is uncomfortable, but why do we suddenly do so much for israel? Jewish people get essentially 10x boost to whatever they're doing. I don't think it is a conspiracy per se, but it isn't kosher either.

>>100386 Jews hire other jews, this isn't a revelation

>>100387 >You: Dude its fuarrrking stupid to think jews are controlling things >Also you: Well, not soykaf Zionism is so dominant in the US government and its institutions, jews hire jews pic related, anon. I don't understand how you think its a retarded conspiracy theory, but also true

>>100377 i've been on the internet studying angry white men for a long time and i've come to the conclusion that ultimately everything they do is motivated by feelings of entitlement. we live in society ruled by an extremely small and exclusive club of elite wealthy successful people and angry white guys want to be in that club but they aren't allowed in and they'll never be allowed in and they're bitter about it and they can't accept it. there's a common misconception that racists are all stupid but that isn't true at all, they're actually often quite intelligent, not exceptionally intelligent but certainly above-average. that's probably the most dangerous place for a person to be, to be good but not good enough, clever enough to come up with all kinds of ideas and theories and plans and rationalizations, but not clever enough to really know what you're doing or what you're feeling or why you do the things that you do, clever enough to earn a privileged middle-class income but not clever enough to get into the club, clever enough to look down your nose at the lower class and hate the player, but not clever enough to realize you're in the same boat as them and hate the game. it's like middle child syndrome, angry white guys feel like the middle children of western society and see too much attention being given to the people at the top and the people at the bottom and not enough to them, but in reality all the attention in the world is given to them, the entire society is structured around keeping the middle-class majority complacent and pacified so that they don't vote for the wrong person or try to organize some kind of popular uprising, to constantly make them feel like they could potentially get into the club if they play their cards right but never actually allow them in.

>>100389 This is the pathologizing mentioned before. Some people think it has to he entitlement, etc. when that isn't actually in the evidence. Modern day thought terminating cliche of "muh angry white men". Note how confident he is we're all angry, white, and male.

>>100390 I wrote about the crit studies stuff earlier, and yeah, these people would be shocked if they knew their batting average. >>100389 >study lol. ngl bro I think you are on the bottom of the curve. Are you white? It seems a lot of white people (go ahead, guess my race) love to naval gaze about their crimes or whatever it is you retards call it.

>>100387 that's a cultural nepotism. only one group does it at such scale.

>>100390 It's crazy that careers are built on tearing down white people for just living. I get it, envy is powerful. If black people put as much effort into being part of the world and society, they would see a huge improvenent. Obama did good for himself for a good reason, politics notwithstanding. I don't buy the jew stuff. They just play the game well. White people should take notes. Conversely, people who make racism their personality are a drag. Just laugh at the weird race soykaf and move on. Most of us are going to be unaffected.

>>100389 How come you think only white people want to accumulate wealth and status? > white guys want to be in that club

>>100395 everybody wants to be in the club, but only white guys feel like they are entitled to it, like they don't have to actually work for it or do anything to stand out from the crowd and prove their value, and only white guys are bitter about it and feel like they are special victims for being excluded from the club, whereas for everyone else being excluded is a given and whining about it is like whining about not winning the lottery or something, it just makes you sound like a stupid whiny little bitch.

>>100396 are you the spokesman for entirety of white men ? some god given destiny?

>>100388 It's retarded to think the big nose tribe are plotting some global conspiracy to control the world and replace white people even tough whites are the only people who support jews If the jews owned the world then Iran's regime, the Houthis, the Taliban, Hezbollah, hamas etc would've never existed If the jews owned the world then Hitler and the NSDAP wouldn't have gained power

>>100396 White people work for it like everybody else. The thing your type doesn't like is they often succeed.

>>100397 oh so now we're going to question credentials? why didn't this come up at the beginning of the thread? why didn't you or anyone else ask OP to present their phd in niggerology?

>>100399 >they often succeed. I think that was his point

suddenly biological determinism stops being a real science when it gets turned around on whitey. it's one of those conditional kinds of science that only apply when it is convenient.

>>100402 >>100402 What? Whites are determined to succeed. Try to keep up.

>>100403 >Whites are determined to succeed lol So many of them never leave the trailer park Look at West Virginia and tell me how much they succeed

>>100404 >look at west virginia west virginia has a gdp per capita about 10kusd/year higher than france by the way.

>>100405 and yet it remains an underdeveloped soykafhole

>>100406 And yet despite that I bet there's a bout a billion east indians who would kill to move there and run a gas station or a motel. What do they know that we don't?

>>100407 Indians will move to fuarrrking Africa for work How the fuarrrk does that make WV deceloped?

>>100408 In my experience they'll leave anywhere they can but they all want to go to America anywhere in America same goes for Arabs Africans what have you. They get to europe and alot are still dreaming of America. Its kinda uncanny.

>>100409 Because the American elites are welcoming them It's a bipartisan support Musk and Trump have been very vocal about their support for H1b visas

>>100410 the euro elites are welcoming too h1b admittance is considerably down since trump II started

>>100411 >considerably down it's by like 9% and they're still allowing hundreds of thousands of jeets in

>>100412 AFAIK never before in my lifetime has the foreign population been going down, this isn't perfect but its a massive improvement vs recent trends. Naturally I'd like the number lower but perfect is the enemy of good here. Anyway this is way off track. How to control nigger crime ? one thing is don't enable it; most of the like somali fraud as far as I can tell has been pretty obvious but its enabled by administrators turning a blind eye to it, and obviously by the government bringing them here and letting them run around. If you do actually report crimes and lock up the criminals things just get better.

>>100413 Make punishments much more severe. Life sentences and death handed out like candy. Or, deport them. At this point, sending them back to the nature reserve is a compassionate compromise. Want milk & honey? Behave.

>>100414 I really do not want to live in a country where the state can execute you for petty theft

>>100415 Are you black? Behave.

>>100416 No But the funny part is the forms of punishment you want are found mainly in african and muslim soykafholes

>>100417 nta, but sending them home is a good idea. killing animals is repulsive.

>>100417 That's all they understand. Make them feel normal.

>>100419 >>100418 solid example of raci sts not really caring about moral values or reality. "You should be executed for petty theft" when faced with the fact this happens in the countries they dont want people from turns into jokes to misdirect and play off said reality. who needs to force a white geno cide when you literally fight for it.

>>100424 >kill whitey ok bro

>>100424 except its quite different in a lot of those countries because the state is much less effective and much more corrupt. In the US we could actually make execution for petty theft happen.

>>100424 Jokes? no. Kill or deport blacks. No joke. People have had enough of them chimping out. We don't live in a zoo, so why let animals live here when they make it objectively worse? People are tired of apes with enough intelligence to demand gibs and too stupid to earn it. If the only way to enjoy peace is for them to die then they will die.

>>100424 Direct your attention to the OP. Black men are killing people. Why bother with petty crime? You likely wrote that to "discredit" or derail. Point is: blacks do enough on their own to deserve death. The best course of action is to realize this and remove them so they can't victimize whites any further.

>I get derezzed for brewing soykaf but sperges can advocate for genocide fuarrrk this site and fuarrrk the tranny janny mods

>>100440 cry about it. what are some short-term ways to deal with black crime? humane approaches to minor things should be favoured, they're just dumb lower apes after all. i think we should begin segregating, in the extreme. like how the japs were parked in camps in ww2. from there, it would be easier to begin sending them to their homelands (or any schmucks who want them). rachet up punishments for violation of all crimes when comitted by blacks. the repeal of civic equality has already begun, so it would be easy to expand this to differential treatment. once their citizenship is revoked, it would become even easier. also, it would be worth the effort to grade them by their crossbred status: if they're white enough and participate in fixing social problems, they could be granted special privileges. never doubt the carrot. thoughts friends? inb4 "racism" etc. - we know, you don't like it. but we are trying to examine how to fix a civilization. just a thought experiment.

>>100441 >their homelands If we're talking about African Americans; descendants of slaves, their homeland is America. They've been subjected to significant selection, the capture, the passage to america, the years of slavery etc, they've been mixed both with other Africans and with Americans, and they're now a thing that basically doesn't exist anywhere else but America. For better or worse this is their home. If we want to find them another new homeland, we'll have to take it from whomever is there already. Obviously liberia is sort of an option but I'm skeptical that they're going to all be eager to take what would work out to easily be 6x their population. Giving the emigrants military support might sweeten the deal for them and they could be installed as the new ruling caste someplace or other, this most likely entails a war, of course.

>>100441 I don't think an entire race needs to be genocided because of what the minority of that group is responsible for

>>100441 If a criminal minority meant a race deserves genocide then the Irish would've been taken out ten times over

>>100446 >>100448 Doublepost. Maybe triple. It isn't mere criminality.

>>100445 >their homeland is America Africa is where they're from. Send them home.

>>100410 >Because the American elites are welcoming them I have ejaKKKulated.

>>100460 and there's no crime if there's no people. Would you have us all kill ourselves ?

>>100445Storm user virgins: BBC mogs your "pure" bloodline. Die.

>>100441 fake and gay Larp harder, Stormcunt

>>100441 anoth€r reward, $wa$tiKKKuKKK

>>100254 >What do you guys think?

right, so 4 days of this being the top active thread on this board i guess it's safe to call it - lainchan is yet another failed imageboard and has absolutely nothing to offer that 4chan doesn't already provide, except maybe the inordinately frequent CP threads

>>100470 For a board as slow as lainchan, 165 posts within 4 days seems to be a breeze as long as the topic is a low iq, no effort, p*l tier ragebait. Truly, no different from 4chan at this point, which fuarrrking sucs ass.

Lol you know domestic violence is going to go way down too. Send blackie home so these fetishists can stop having their rape fantasy and fatherless chimps

>>100474 Yeah, it is only a matter of time before they chimp out and try to derail the thread. You do know, beastality is a crime, but sick fuarrrks still do it smh. Congratulations chimps, you only showed why deportation is necessary. Thanks for building the case. Also >shut it down is always the play. Low life animals are just the attack dogs. Wonder who holds the leashes?

>>100475 Lainchan due to the "anti corporate hacker" image attracts lefties and communists, which is its biggest influx reason. Also the nigger porn is up since 07-11 23:52:05. Meanwhile some thread on numerology got nuked by mods. Its telling alot on who runs the website. Image attached.