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I will soon be 20 and I've never had any relationship with a woman. Never kissed one and I've never even hold hands with one too. It's not like I am a nerd. I've got some friends. I've been partying a bit during highschool but I think most of them thinks I am weirdo and even within my highschool pack girls are more likely to talk with other guys. In fact I also consider myself a weirdo. It's like when I was in kindergarden I was super serious guy and autistic about history. Whe used to build guns from lego bricks with my kindergarden pals and they where constructing M-16's and other cool stuff from Call of Duty and I've always built some freaky 18th century gun because I thought it looked better. Then I went to school, first 6 years were great I played lots of football and table tennis and there even was this girl which liked me but then I had to move to another school. I was 12 years old kid from 'good house' and in my class I met new kind of people. In short I was still kid when they were teenagers. For example when I was around 14 I've met a lovely girl who tried to pick me up and I didn't noticed it. To be honest I wasn't even interested in relationships at the time. Two years later I realized I loved her but she was already studying in another country about 2000 kilometers from my home. I can tell you that she was so good that I haven't considered other girls seriously. She's intelligent, beautiful, you can talk with her about modern philosophy or literature and she has made a wonderful carrer so far, at the moment she's studying in one of the best universities in the world. Ok, back to my story. So all friends I had were nerds and autists but I have to admit I fuaarking love them. One thing I can teach you is that this type of guys seems to be loyal and are generally good buddies. I've been programming (I am really good at it) or playing guitar (I am not a great guitarist, but I try it hard) in my free time. At the same time other people have had first alcohol, first loves, first parties. When I was 16 I went to highschool where I was still in pack with my previous school buddies but I also become a part of this new crew of more grown people (and I don't mean party-animals, just regural teenagers with normal childhoods and parents). Right now I am studying CS and maths in my 'soykafhole' country, my highschool pack have kind of disappeared (except a few buddies) and I am left with rpg&beer loving company. So as you see there is not girls around me. I've just watched some scenes from Disney's cartoons (Mulan, Robin Hood, The Lion King, Tarzan, Pocahontas and more) and I am asking myself what have I've done with my life. It feels like if you haven't had 'teenage kicks' you are not fully a human creature and I tend to consider myself as a robot more and more. It's probably because my porn&masturbation addiction (I've been doing it since I was 12) and my parents who raised me strictly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25QyCxVkXwQ What is interesting that it's always about unrequited love in poetry/lyrics. So what about no-love, the loveless one? Inba listen to loveless by My Bloody Valentine. Will I ever find true love or will I die rotten and forgotten? P.S. sorry for this autistic stream of consiciousness but afair there used to be seperate board for this kind of threads but I don't remember it's name and I can't find it on the bar. Picrel is myself literally, I might be a good programmer I might be a good in x,y,z but I will never be a fully developed human because of my misplaced childchood. P.S. 2 I've read it for second time and I've to admit I am fully retarded :D P.S. 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfbCLwNlGwU I want to share it with someone but none of my friends appreciated it. Firstly, it's great track, secondly: this editing is masterpiece, the way her hairs "explodes", lastly she's lovely :3 It's 2:34 AM and I go to sleep, cya

go buy you'reself a whore, kid.

>>5090 edgy

>>5089 >For example when I was around 14 I've met a lovely girl who tried to pick me up and I didn't noticed it. Reading this hurts because I had the same thing except I knew 'her' from kindergarten. We used to play lotsa vidya, but when I was 16 I moved to another city 100km away because reasons. A while a go (about 4 years after moving) I managed to get hold of her through chat. We talked a bit but I soon realized our interests have deviated and changed alot. Seeing her now show off her clearly successful career and studies on the internet and social media makes me die a little inside because I know there's nothing of value I can provide to her anymore. Maybe I am jealous? I don't know. The exact feeling is hard to describe. I'm just a lonely webdev wagecvck who worries too much about unimportant soykaf. Just like you I usually only had a handful of good friends who were autists like me who shared the same interests. I guess that's where we should stay. Just keep studying and doing what we love and stop worrying, eh?

> ps/2 Yes, you are.

I's P.P.S., Post Post Scriptum, not P.S. 2, you retard.

>>5109 do you have a lot of friends? I presume not

Relax. It'll be fine. You're still young and younger girls tend to go more for the bad boy type which you're clearly not but as people get older they tend to settle down and start looking for more stable partners. I'm a geeky guy, who hangs around with geeky friends who're all turning 30 now. Plenty of us didn't get their first girlfriend until 25 or so. Stay in shape, stay active socially and keep trying to meet new people and you'll be fine.

>>5121 exactly OP When girls jumped on every hunk bad boy alpha then they will come to you with their loose meaty flaps of vaginas

You do realize Disney movies are fantasy, it's not something that happens in the real life with any frequency. I wouldn't worry about it, if you keep on improving your physical, mental and social aspects you'll surely find a nice girl soon enough.

>>5103 Yeah, do what we love and stop worring seems alright. >>5109 Thanks, I will remember it >>5121 But I am a bad boy inside... only my extern presence is this geeky guy. Anyway thanks for warm words.

I know this is an old thread and you might not see this reply, but I thought I'd share the relationship advice my dad gave me when I was a teenager. I've shared it with many people in the past and everyone I've shared it with has found it helpful. Basically, if you're single and want to be in a relationship, you have six options: 1. You can die. This is obviously not ideal, but it certainly puts a stop to the problem. 2. You can lower your standards. If you're not able to find anyone, maybe it means you're asking for too much. If you're more willing to settle, chances are it'll be easier for you to find someone willing to be in a relationship with you. 3. You can search better. This can be a matter of spending more time looking, or looking for someone in different places (i.e. instead of sitting around alone waiting for someone to come, you go out to a park or single's bar to meet someone). Only warning here is that wherever you meet someone is where you're likely to find someone later on, so if you don't want to be with someone who's constantly out partying, you shouldn't try to meet someone at a party. 4. You can improve yourself. If you're unable to find a partner, it may be because no one around you sees you as admirable. The solution, of course, is to become a more admirable person, and ideally, a better person in general. Learn how to keep a conversation going. Hit the gym. Practice good hygiene. Be respectful and nice to be around. Read up a little to have more stuff to talk about. 5. You can get lucky. While this isn't really something that's controllable, it's an aspect relevant in all other options and something you should always be aware of. Sometimes, you can't find someone simply out of bad luck. Sometimes, someone comes into your life seemingly randomly; this is essentially good luck. Either way, you have to recognize that not every variable in your life is in your control. 6. You can stop wanting to be with someone. Of course, this isn't really a solution to the problem as much as it is avoiding the problem or making it a non-problem. Learning to be alone can quell that sense of loneliness, and is possibly worth looking into. Basically, do a little of 2, 3, and 4, and your chances of finding someone will increase significantly. Best of luck lainon, I hope your future is better than your present.

>20 It’s not too late for you to become a trap! (and probably kys you’reself by 30)

>>6569 >tfw 27 and I asked an old friend about going on a date with me, and she said she has never been on a date before (she hardly leaves her house except to go to work/food)

Im 28 and i never had a gf. Spring begun again and i have to keep seeing couples and cute girls when i hang out with my friends. Its obviously despairing and my only way to cope with it is smoking. There was i girl once i had the guts to talk to and it didnt go bad. I keep hoping i see her but im scared i embaress myself in front of my friends if i do, i already nearly dropped spaghetti a few times with friends, but they are always stoned and drunk so its ok. Its like getting pissed on with acid sometimes.

>>6564 OP here It turned out that I am going option 6. >>6587 I am happy that it'sspring. I felt quite depressed during winter (as always). I even stopped listening to shoegaze/blackgaze and started going out of my room to play some sports with friends.

>>5089 Stop watching porn and give masturbation a break for a while. Hit the gym or do some team sport. Talk to the few cute girls you see (yes it's hard, man the fuarrrk up). If your town/country really is like kicking dead whales down the beach move away. And realize that you're less special than you think. I know how you feel. I kind of wasted my teenage years with video games and never really was myself. Now I'm working hard and aiming up. You begin to not care about the past that much anymore when you're on the way of success and improvement. Being trapped in those thoughts is really just a sign of your brain to do things different.

>>8561 Oh yeah, also stop listenting to pathetic music

YOU NEED TO HAVE SEX. It is funny that while I read this thread I was watching 40 Year Old Virgin. And in the famously true words in that movie, "Stop putting pussy on a pedestal." Grab a few dating apps, put up a pic and some info(don't write anything depressing or that is a bummer) and just start messaging as many girls as you can. There are horny girls out there, and at least one will bang you. Trust me, I used to feel like a loser that no girl would want. But one day I just said fuarrrk it and didn't care about rejection. Trust me, you need some experience. Be safe, and get out there and start fuarrrking! I know what I just wrote sounds pretty much like a soykafty infomercial from one of those pick up artists so there is only one way to end this: I used to lay awake at night staring at my ceiling, depressed and unhappy. But one day I grabbed my dick and my phone and told the world I was going to fuarrrk it. And you know what, I did, and so can you.

Thanks for bringing this thread back, I almost forgot about it. >>8561 I've been constantly watching porn in this period of time, but during last days I started to feel that it bores me. I think that this habit of mine will be totally gone within few weeks. I am really looking forward to have this shady period of time behind me. I can't hit the gym. I am 177cm tall. I weight 60 kg. There is no body to shape, I am skinny as fuarrrk. Eating more just doesn't help. If I have enough free time I run, I often play basketball with my mates, rarely football. I think I am in good shape, but I am definitely not the 'hot stud' type of guy, I am just too skinny for that and to be honest I don't have urge to muscle up. >And realize that you're less special than you think. I know. I just want to be somehow meaningful to someone, as I fell pointless now. >>8562 I really like shoegaze and blackgaze and of course I listen to lots of different music >>8564 >Be safe, and get out there and start fuarrrking! xd >But one day I grabbed my dick and my phone and told the world I was going to fuarrrk it. This sound like an opening scene to some comedy book or movie about a new-born nihilist. So, as you brought this thread back to live I will tell you what have happened in the meantime. I registered fake account on tinder. The 'anonymity' makes miracles. I started to dirty talk to girls I matched (expect the ones that had some interesting bio). Most of them told me to fuarrrk off but some of them were actually playing the game. So I learned one important lesson: gals are very similar to pals. It gave me huge confidence boost. Now I no longer feel ashamed when talking to girls. But I warn you! This can backfire at you. I met a girl who was studying fine arts (I always wanted art oriented gf). She was 3 years older so it wouldn't work out either. I texted her something like "there is wild spider running around my house, I have arachnophobia and I am closed in my wardrobe, could you please bring me food or I will starve?" and from this nonsense we started a very interesting conversation. We talked about Kundera's 'The Unbearable Lightness of Being', especially about the part which Deafheaven used in their track 'Please Remember'. It turned out that she was also unhappy person. Then, out of a blue, my fake FB account got derezzed and I lost any contact with her. I could probably find her using fb graph search but I don't think she would like to be stalked. In the meantime I've learned a lot about CS, I actually started to like my university, there is plenty of interesting courses I will attend here. I also progressed my guitar playing a lot, I will buy USB interface when my first salary kicks in, I want to start recording myself and maybe find some band to play with. But that's all nothing in comparison to one night I had month ago. I actually feel like my whole life was less intense than this one night. I wrote about it there: https://lainchan.org/hum/res/7603.html#q7951 I wrote her a message week later if she would like to meet, she responded that she is in her hometown for summer. I asked if she will call me when she will be back. She didn't responded. A three or four days later I hosted 'end of semester' party in my flat, as usually I got drunk and around 3am I texted her something like 'will you (text me)?' and she didn't responded yet. I realized that this means she doesn't want to have anything in common with me. I just wanted to talk to her. The next four days were miserable. My depression literally peaked. I woke up 3pm with swollen eyes, went to shop to buy something to eat. I ate my breakfast, then about 4.30pm I ate dinner, then I spent time laying on my bed staring at my ceiling, reading Norwegian Wood or strumming my guitar. When I had 'enough' of sitting in my room I was wandering cross my city, then about 4am I was going to sleep. Heights of despair. Gross. During my last trip I met a guitarist at part of my town with this very old churches (this was very climatic). It was 1am and he was playing guitar in this witcher like traditional slavic harmonies (tune your guitar to DADDAD or listen to 'Silver for monsters' by Percival, you will understand what I am talking about). He was awesome. I spent like 30 minutes listening to him after which we had a superb chat about guitars and stuff. We even talked about playing together during summer. It turned out he was just 1 year older than me. He gave me his fb account. I texted him a few days later. Of course he didn't responded. Why is this always like this? Ok, I am definitely a weirdo, I have strange interests, I listen to different music, my perspective is kind of not usual, but I try to be nice to people, why do they always turn me down? Also, I am working as a software developer intern during summer. I literally write soykaf code for food while my friends born in rich families are having best holidays of their lives together with their gf's in some exotic islands. I am pathetic.

interesting reading this and being unable to relate as a 26 year old gay virgin. All this bullsoykaf about girls

>>8576 You've broken that stereotype about gays getting so much sex for me. With all the propaganda I've heard about gays being promiscuous, it's a little mind blowing to think about a gay dude not getting some sex. I can see how a straight guy might have issues but that is like kicking dead whales down the beach no matter what your orientation is.

>>8577 consider that the dating pool becomes less than 4% of what you have, that it's impossible to know if someone is gay by just looking at them, and that the only meeting places are full of undesirables

>>8577 >>8578 I definitely knew some gay incels but this was before dating apps (or the word "incel" obviously). I wonder how they are doing now.