Explain this shit

Why shouldn't I hate people who don't give me what I want? That is literally what an enemy is. You can say that I'm "not entitled to anything", but if that's the case, why are others entitled to not being hated? They deserve to be treated like soykaf.

>>3768 because it makes you a petulant child but lets be real we're living in a world where the loudest get what they want

> That is literally what an enemy is. Actually it isn't "literally" or not. An enemy is usually trying to take what's already yours. Your logic is the same as those /incel/ types who declare war on half the species because no one wants to fcuk them. > why are others entitled to not being hated? Do what you like. Don't expect to get very far in life.

>>3769 So no logic then? >>3770 If they deny me what I want, they are taking my pleasure. They are an enemy.

Why shouldn't you? I don't know, who am I to persuade you of different way to live your life. If you are the type of person who likes to burn down bridges, do so.

Stop thinking you or anyone else matters. You give other people way more importance and expect the same back. Just be a sound person, jesus, it's not that hard

because not giving a fuarrrk is more efficient, hating uses energy sage

>>3768 Because you will die alone, small-minded, and angry at the world if you do so I always wonder what's going through the heads of people who make posts like the OP. Are they really that jaded and non-self-aware, or just 15?

>>3782 They're probably venting in the wrong thread (or in the wrong board, wizchan is over there)

>Why shouldn't I hate people who don't give me what I want? Hate is a useless emotion. It will never get you what you want. >That is literally what an enemy is. An enemy is someone to be avoided. You seem to want to interact more with your "enemies". >They deserve to be treated like soykaf. Nobody deserves anything.

I don't know, I can only assume this is the same singular person posting about how they want everyone to die and anyone who doesn't serve their purpose is an enemy and women should be slaves. Since they all are typed the same and have the same topic, this makes this like the third fuarrrking thread and the 15th post. I don't care and I don't think anyone else does at this point, what do you want to hear, why do you keep posting. Hate everyone, it doesn't affect me. You probably already know none of us are going to think the same because we are brainwashed sheeple, so you can just do whatever you want and il do whatever I want and life will continue as it always has. Like why post really, just to vent? Personally if I was venting and everyone just told me to fuarrrk off and that I was retarded it would just make me angrier and not help. No one can decide what you shouldn't or should do, you should do whatever helps you get through life.

>>3768

>>3770 >>3787 Sounds like we got a regular soykaffine brewer here then. Just fricking great. Can we just hijack the thread for something more productive?

>>3768 hate and vengeance will not bring you any closer to what you want. Also, why do you think you 'should' feel hatred towards someone? Are you a slave to your own emotions? Or do you just feel compelled to follow social norms, which frown upon the behaviour you suggested?

>>3768 Because it's unproductive. You cannot serve all of humanity, therefore humanity would see you as "their enemy".

>>3768 Real life is more nuanced. Some people give you some of the things you want some of the time.

>>3799 >real life is more nuanced this should be pinned to the top of this board and be used every time somebody here is on some soykaf like this where they are explaining how the world works or why they act the way they do.

congratulations you took the bait! Now whats the next step of your master plan

>>3813 I get the feeling if anything this person genuinely believed these things, expressed them and reveived hate, and then decided "lol, these people are so easy to troll.... heh" and kept posting being entirely serious but knowing nobody wants to hear it.

>>3813 congrats kid

>>3813 Crashing this thread

>>3815 I am 100% serious, yes.

>>3819

>Because it's not worth the effort >Because to hate someone is to oppose them with your being >because an enemy is someone who opposes what you hold closely/ >Because you can treat people how you want to, but that means facing the consequences of that decision >Because hating a lot of people means being hated by a lot of people You sound pretty childish. Indeed nobody owes you(or anyone) anything, and hating people for acknowledging that makes you an entitled, spoiled brat. To hold that viewpoint is pretty much the definition of entitlement, to think that if someone won't give you what you want you'd hate them and treat them badly. An enemy is not someone who would withhold what you want, it's someone who would steal from you what you justly deserve.

>>3768 Because if you were smart you'd know that to get people to give you what you want you need to be kind to them. You sound like you've just discovered egoism, but you should maybe try and think a little more about what is actually in your self interest. You have to play the game if you want to win, being a dick to everyone, sure it's satisfying for a bit but it can only get you so far. Try thinking a little more long term perhaps. Also "enemy" is a spook. People are just people.

>>3768 you can hate anyone, no one cares

>>3768 You can hate them but logically, it maximizes benefit for the individual over time if each individual acts to benefit society and treat each other with respect and minimize violence. If that is too socialistic for you, it is known that trade is favored over war - exchange is mutually beneficial over violence, and immediate acts of aggression will lessen your chances of exchange down the road. Ethically it is a universal value to treat others like you would want to be treated. Do you want to be treated like soykaf because you didn't give some manchild what he demanded?

>They deserve to be treated like soykaf. Now you're just showing your angst. Treating people like soykaf for no reason is a good way to get yourself treated like soykaf by others. A smarter and less edgy person would realize "friends" are more valuable than "enemies". >>7359 >Ethically it is a universal value to treat others like you would want to be treated. OP is clearly an egoist, not sure why y'all be posting such spooky soykaf.

>>3768 >Why shouldn't I hate people who don't give me what I want? To get what you want you need to have something other's want. Or you need strength to take it through force. Since you're crying in this thread I guess you have neither. >You can say that I'm "not entitled to anything" Are you actually upset that people are not giving you what you want for nothing in return? >but if that's the case, why are others entitled to not being hated? They deserve to be treated like soykaf. Go for it. Enjoy your pathetic life hating the very society that is keeping your worthless ass alive.

>OP hate is a personal response. Anything or anyone can be hated. Its rather wasteful. Over emotional beings start to remove themselves from reasoned thinking. Not only is hate a physiologically taxing process. But you're hobbling yourself by cluttering your mind with it. If you knew anything about game theory, there are far more efficient ways to go about getting what you want. Zero-sum outcomes are poor and inefficient ways to go about it. It's a mental waste to go about obsessing over hate. Not to mention that, again in the realm of game theory, you are most likely undeserving of hating anyone. If you are without intellectual and material means to affect simple plans then I hold your methodology suspect. Maybe even your intelligence.

>>7362 this, OP needs to study game theory and his question will be answered

>Why shouldn't I hate people who don't give me what I want? That is literally what an enemy is. You can say that I'm "not entitled to anything", but if that's the case, why are others entitled to not being hated? Son, for the last time, you're not getting that Xbox.

X is an enemy of Y implies X harms Y those who do nothing for you one way or the other are not your enemies. if you consider someone not helping you as hurting you, then you have some deeper problems, or have a deeper understanding of economics (but the latter is unlikely because people who do understand economics tend to understand that everyone is themselves and does not have to do jack squat for anyone else, and that if they do do something for someone else, then it's because they expect some benefit for themselves (which could be cash money, an increase in the chance that someone will do something beneficial for them, or because doing it just makes them feel good)) >why are others entitled to not being hated? you're right, no-one is entitled to anythingfrom others, so no-one is entitled to not being hated, and you are perfectly entitled to hate whomever you choose, but just because you can do something, doesn't mean that it's in your benefit to. you can (assuming you know how and have the means) kill yourself, but should you? you can kill someone else, but should you? i'm not saying you always shouldn't, there may be cases when it is best. i'm not saying there are such cases, but i don't rule out the possibility. >>3774 >If you are the type of person who likes to burn down bridges, do so no. just because you are a certain sort of person will not suffice in such a decision. if you are the type to demolish, find a job in the demolition industry, there are plenty of people who want to rebuild a thing for a constructive purpose, maybe they found it easier to demolish a given building and start over from scratch. >>3784 >Hate is a useless emotion. It will never get you what you want are you so sure about that? i have found that hate, like other emotions, a very powerful tool. all emotions serve a purpose. melancholy helps you think fiercely, cholera helps you act fiercely, fear helps you avoid pain, pain indicates harm. hatred is a very dark emotion, one that indicates that a certain thing should cease to exist. a well working psyche is one in which your emotions, your moods, your thoughts, are all in harmony with you, your surroundings, the world at large. it is perhaps rare that true hate arises, but if it does, then the proper course of action is to cause the hated to cease to exist. often it is enough to cause it to cease to exist in the world of the hater, so that he never has any experience, directly or indirectly, of what he hates, like scents, they provide a vivid and subtle experience to which you can associate what occurred, which aids their recollection. ps >>6779 >>7359

Because relationships with other humans affect your mental well-being.

Your assuming hating is easier then being nice, and also creating a false dichotomy. Hating is not effortless, even if it is your natural state; like depression it takes mental energy to hate, that is to say it "takes a lot out of you". Being nice on the other hand, is something people often do to those they don't like but don't care about as they simply want them out of the way. If they expressed hatred said person would reciprocate and then you would have to deal with them. By hating everyone who doesn't give you what you want you will never get what you want from other people, because it takes time and established trust for someone to give. You also have more care for people on average then most do. Asking this question is like asking everyone "why shouldn't I just sit in the corner and masturbate until I die". Feel free you only are hurting yourself.

>>3768 People are a resource. They seldom oppose you consciously, most of the time it is them going with the flow. All you have to do is stir them towards your own designs, otherwise you would just be punishing them for being dumb, which they can't help.

>>7623 people who say stuff like this get played the most, while at the same time thinking they are superior and underestimating everyones intelligence. easiest to manipulate because they never think they could be.

>>7624 that's what they want you to believe

>>7625 > they ...meaning whom?

>>7628 meaning himself/people who I was referring to. if you say so.

>>3783 This. I have nothing against incels but this isn't the board for them.

>>7634 don't misnumber people or assume their plurality

>>3784 Pure, undiluted ideology

>>8214 everyone has ideology

Since people are bringing up incel stuff, it must be a pretty rough existence, being in a cycle that makes you angrier and more sexually frustrated as time passes. You want to have intimacy but you get rejected a few times because maybe you were awkward or the person didn't really bond with you or they said something you took too personally, or perhaps you had a bad mother who imprinted a negative view on women, etc. Then you are mad about it which only makes you less attractive to people and they want less to do with you but may be cool with talking with you once you cool off. But this is the age of the Internet, now you can stew with others with the same frustration. I legit feel bad for incels, myself. I wish their was a way to help them at least experience what they covet so much. I'm a virgin as well so I know how annoying people can be about that, and my view of women isn't the best but I feel sad whenever I see angry people doing little but ranting about their lack of a sex life. Makes me wish prostitution was 100% legal throughout the world or at least some government vouchers for teledildonic technology and VR headsets so you can get your female validation through cyberspace. Although a lot of incels really want a good relationship with a woman not just a service of "Suck my dick for $20, please".

>>3768 >Why shouldn't I hate people who don't give me what I want? >>3772 >So no logic then? >If they deny me what I want, they are taking my pleasure. They are an enemy. I hope you are joking OP or just trying to be edgy.

>>3768 >Why shouldn't I hate people who don't give me what I want? You don't deserve anything except what you can make for yourself. Anything which others give you is a gift. People with your attitude depend on others, and as soon as others get fed up with their bullsoykaf, you will die. See (((welfare))) leeches for an IRL example. >That is literally what an enemy is. An enemy is usually something which wants to destroy or steal from you, your family, or your people. If you want to treat everyone who doesn't give you what you want as an enemy, you won't be able to fight them. >why are others entitled to not being hated? They are not. Hate everyone all you want. I seriously doubt that they will give a soykaf or be affected by your hate in any way. >They deserve to be treated like soykaf. As I said, very few people would care.

>>3768 >people who don't give me what I want If you have your reason to hate those people or humanity, they will be your enemies indeed. It's normal to hate. If you threat people like soykaf that means you can afford the consequences otherwise you doing it wrong. Enemy is a double-edged sword, you should be prepared before calling someone as your enemy.

>>3768 So, Stacy still refuses to blow you? Mom still refuses to buy you that gaming PC? >Why shouldn't I hate people who don't give me what I want? Morals and ethics aside. That's extremely stupid. You can move on until someone, eventually, gives you what you want. Jeez, you give people too much control over your own life and thoughts, don't you think? >>7362 >To get what you want you need to have something other's want. Or you need strength to take it through force. Since you're crying in this thread I guess you have neither. Also, this. You're a weak-ass pussy if you need others to give you things. Man the hell up OP.

I think enemy is kind of an odd word to begin with. Nations have enemies in wars. Anime high schoolers have enemies. For the most part people don't have enemies. Just people who hurt them, people they don't like, etc.

>>6779 Except your concept of egoism is referred to as 'ethical egoism,' or, 'objectivism.' To within one's own rational self-interest is Randian, not Stirnerism. Egosim, the Stirner variety is also based on whatever one's emotion desires, not what is 'rational.' You're not an egoist. You're an objectivist.

>>8401 I pity them to an extent too, but I think they overcomplicate the issue and blow their worry out of proportion. "if even I can get laid, so can you" is probably a cliche at this point, but I think it's true. There are still plenty of normal women out there who won't fuarrrk a man over and take all he has. Most of them just aren't very showy, and a good number of them are just as clueless as the incels. A friend of mine had no idea she was blueballing her male friend until I explicitly told her and helped them hook up. Personally the story I tell is about how I blundered into meeting the girl I'm with on the wired, and some people take that as a lucky break, and point out that it's not a strategy that can be relied on, but the fact that I made that connection while procrastinating my studies on some timewaster site should be great news. It really only takes being interesting enough to bother with, persistence, and compatible personalities. Self improvement doesn't hurt but basically just drop the anxiety around dating/getting your dick wet and you'll notice an opportunity. Also, I don't have a moral problem with prostitution but I wonder if it's the right choice for many. Paying some sex worker instead of actually meeting someone and going through the rituals of getting to know them etc. doesn't sound like a confidence-builder imo. sage because it's technically offtopic