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Any of you guys go to prostitutes/asian massage parlors? I'm a virgin at 18 years old, and let's face it, it's not gonna happen naturally, I don't have the looks. I watched this one music video recently, kinda inspired me to go try it myself. I have around 800bucks of my own money at the moment, but unfortunately no car. So I may have to pay for a taxi/uber, and some of these girls seem to require that you get tested first. So there's two extra expenses. Anyone have any extra tips/useful info about this experience, or any stories of your own? Video that inspired me btw: https://youtu.be/SbRf67-BSjE

I go to asian massage parlors but for actual massages. If you don't want to deal with all that stuff you just mentioned, you can find prostitutes on craigslist, backpage, and any "escort" site. Just wear a condom so you don't get aids.

>I'm a virgin at 18 years old, and let's face it, it's not gonna happen naturally a lot of people think that. I thought that. Then I met a girl when I was 19 and it was great.

>>3626 Can confirm. Met a girl at 20.

>>3626 Yes, but you were also moderately ok looking and probably were stuck under some nice guy delusion. I am actually ugly.

>>3630 I'm fairly good-looking and gonna hit wizardry next year. Get on my level.

>>3656 Why if I may ask? Is it because you are so socially awkward and don't know how to talk to others or is there another reason? >>3526 I always thought that I was ugly and none would find me interesting but when I went to the university I found out that apparently I was at least 6/7-10. However because of my previous isolation I wasn;t able to do anthing about it. I was sure I am gonna be a wizard but then at 26 I got drunk with a friend, started kissing and couple of days later we had sex. After that we met for some time and I must say it was pretty fun so don't loose hope lainon. There is always a chance. The thing with prostitutes is they are just for sex, physical act. You don't have any emotional stuff with them and for me at least emotions are more important then just fuarrrking. It's nice of course but I can get orgasm by myself and much quicker, with less effort. The best thing is that after sex you can hug, cuddle, kiss, you can feel that right next to you there is someone who care about you.That's way I never had any random sex with girls from clubs and stuff (and mainly because I don't go to such places of course). Because I don't care if I don't feel any emotional connection. I write all of this to say that IMO it's not a good idea to go to prostitute for your first time. I think you will be disappointed, loose some money. Of course I might be wrong and have too romantic view on things. But if you do go for that, good luck anyway

>>3526 Most likely not going to be fun. You're going to feel awkward paying her, cum quickly and regret spending the money. She also won't give you the intimacy you really want. It's hard for people on here to take the "I'm ugly" excuse serious, because most of us have been there and escaped it by manning up.

>>3659 >>3657 Agree with both. Sex without intimacy is quite boring and I don't really see any point in that. Invest in some fleshlight and VR goggles and the effect will be the same. Also, I don't like to respond in that manner but simply stop whining that you're ugly and you will never get laid. You are just 18 so what are you even talking about. Are you deformed in any visible way? Because if not you can easily find a girl. Look is not everything but it works both way so don't try to pick up 10/10 girls as your first try.

>>3630 ugly people get laid all the time. It's more to do with how socially aware and confident you are. Personally, I am almsot toally socially unaware and have no confidence in myself. I also didn't really have interest in dating for a long time. It just happens eventually, as long as there is some social activity in your life you will eventually meet a gir.

>>3657 >Why if I may ask? Is it because you are so socially awkward and don't know how to talk to others or is there another reason? I don't like social interaction and avoid crowded places. I even stay on my house most of the time except for the rare occasion I absolutely need to out. Despite that, I'm actually quite "charming" to other people, either the ones I know or strangers I meet for some reason. I've tried to hook up with several girls, but there was always a point in the relationship where, as intimacy grew (as in closeness), I'd start to see little things that would make me feel aversion to them. Either their personality or their way of thinking. So I'd just walk away. After a few years I really stopped trying and play the fool when a girl tries to flirt with me. It's not that I'm not interested in sex. But I'm not interested in a relationship. And I don't want to pretend just to get laid.

>>3661 I don't give a soykaf about "intimacy ". I hate others. I just want the validation of someone's biological programming viewing me as genetically adequate for mating. Of course that entails engaging in the process to completion, and if I can delude myself enough, a hooker could feel like that. Also don't be insane. Looks are everything. >>3659 I don't want intimacy. Stop projecting. I'm not gay or a woman. >>3663 No

>>3657 >having female friends lol Did you make this post just to troll me?

>>3668 your basing your life choices and philosophies on your armchair knowledge of science and psychology, something not even actual people in the field do in their day to day life. good luck. just because something can be a good descriptor doesn't mean the desceiption is what the thing is.

>>3670 Dude what? There's no "armchair knowledge" of anything. How is listing my own desires "armchair"? It's literally my own thoughts.

I'm not just making a guess or assumption of what I want lol

>>3671 really? because it sounds a whole lot like authoritative claims on the human psyche.

>>3677 No, that's what YOU were doing by assuming that I wanted "intimacy", lol.

>>3668 How you look is everything, not just looks. You're most likely just another pale virgin that stares at the ground like you have a long lasting relationship with concrete. Get proper posture, walk with attitude and get used to holding eye contact. The hooker is going to think you're pathetic anyway, not sure if you can delude that away...

>>3526 >it's not gonna happen naturally That's right, it's not. If you are female you can put on some makeup and a short skirt and wait for a guy to pick you up but if you're male then society demands that you are the one who gets out there and makes it happen. Sorry. >I don't have the looks Women are not as one dimensional as men are in this regard. Things like confidence, money and status are also really important and can be used to compensate for the things you cannot change.

>>3680 >>3688 I agree with these two guys. The change has to come from you if you want to end up with a gf and get laid. The usual advice applies, i.e. workout, practice making conversations, hold eye contact like 3688 said. Since you're just 18 work on these things, it's not expected of you to have a nice car, place of your own, etc. so getting a girl at your age will be easier than if you're 30 and should have all that sorted out. At your age, I worked at a retail store which gave me the opportunity to converse with strangers, and practice talking to females by conversing with my coworkers. Everyone is different but maybe a part time retail job could help. They're hiring like crazy right now due to the holidays.

>>3671 > I hate others. I just want the validation of someone's biological programming viewing me as genetically adequate for mating. nobodies brain works like this. at 18 or whatever the fact is you don't know yourself enough yet. you can say I dont either, the fact is at this point its probably easier for everyone around you to see what kind of person you are then the one you think you are. if anyone needs intimacy its you because you need someone to tell you how you come off, and you probably need a different perspective rather than just assuming yours is correct. i can only say so much through anonymous posts because you have a lot more control on how you are perceived.

Im so tied of these convos, so i just say two things here and not try to argue: Looks mean fuarrrk all when you have terrible social skills like mine, i was often complemented for my looks, its true they can give you an initial advantage, but thats about it. There were even times when girls took interest in me, guess what, when i even managed to grasp the situation at all i got cold feet. And have seen plenty of ugly guys with good looking girls. Believe it or not, i wouldnt myself if i hadnt found out for sure. I also heard plenty of stories that hookers arent worth it, since i never got any tail myself nor fuarrrked i hooker i cant say personally.

>>3696 This. And you can either give up or try to get better. Not change your personality but bring out the good qualities. More than anything people want someone they are proud of, looks are a part of that but they really want someone thats just always gonna be a good time, that they can trust, that when they bring to their friends everyone thinks they are cool or funny. Looks cant replace those things. Nobody is probably going to help you get a hooker because in spite of everything even if someone here sounds mean this board overall is full of people who want to help and encouraging you to give up is contradictory to that. No one probably thinks they are gonna change your opinion with a post, they just dont want to give you affirmation that you are right to give up and thats the best we can do even if you just call us dumb users and say you hate people and dont want intimacy. Its unpaid work but its a lot easier to deal with you hating then work against hope. possibly projection but thats why I do it so take the "we" statements loosely.

>>3694 you are seriously the armchair psychologist >yeah bro everyone is the same, I know how you work Please, leave your psychotic ramblings in the ears of your therapist, not in my thread.

I don't want "intimacy". Queerbait. I want to be shoen that I have good genes. I want superiority.

>>3703 I didnt say I know how you work I said your 18 and immature.

>>3526 >visits transhumanist wetware patching neuroBBS >has disgusting meatspace desires >weenie in da roastie :DDDD I want all "normal" people to leave back to Facebook® Social™ Service Network or 4chan® Anonymous™ Subreddit (Courtesy of Nishimura-Avner® Corp™)

>>3704 Then I recommend a swift kick in the gonads and verbal abuse. You know nothing about how the world works.

>>3707 You are the normal. >>3714 You need to get stomped on by an ostrich to be honest, you're insane

>>3731 >waaa everyone who disagrees with me is wrong grow up.

>>3732 lol at being immature and teilling others to grow up. You need help man.

>>3734 >telling others they need help is more mature than telling them to grow up Kettle black or something

Bumping this because I've been considering a prostitute recently. 28 and I've only had two sexual experiences and no intimate relationship for about 11 years. Both experiences were terrible and the first one absolutely destroyed me for awhile. At this point I realize I really want an intimate relationship, someone I can be close to, but I also just want to get laid for real, for once. So searching for "[US city] escorts" to find a site is good enough? I'm not gonna call up, arrange a meeting, and get popped for soliciting sex? And they won't come to my house I assume, gotta get a hotel room?