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How do you deal with the concept of dying? Do you believe in an afterlife or does your brain simply cease functioning? Or maybe reincarnation or are all living things are a part of larger organism and dying is simply erasing weaker genes?

It's inevitable and you can't do anything about it/know reliably anything about it, so why bother. Unless it uncontrollably claws on your mind all the time, finding ways to be comfortable with your mortality is inefficient. It's better to just do what you want and can to its fullest while you still have time. Which starts occupying your brain anyway and you stop thinking about death and what not, so the problem is solved simply by action.

Irrelevant question with answers that nobody knows answer to. Whatever we desire the answer is, we won't know what is really true. Wasting time on such irrelevant questions is dumb and only prone to insider trade or flamewar type of discussions where subjective opinions of individuals clash or are validated. I also noticed these types of discussions seem to engulf lainchan. Worthless waste of time with no real answer.

Something I saw first in waking life bit that clicked with me being somebody who dreams almost every night. Also in conversation with my friend that does quite a bit of dmt. And in my own thoughts on other psychadelics. That last minute where your brain is alive but your body isnt could feel like an eternal dream. With no sensory input, well what is time? Im a christian though. But if I weren't a christian, then the above would seem so true to me it would be.

It's not the dead part that bothers me, it's the part leading up to it. My dad spent three months in hospital getting dialisys and a bunch of other stuff before they gave up, stopped treatment and gave him all the morphine he wanted. Three months of misery, plus the years leading up to that weren't fun either. I wasn't allowed to see my mom for the last two weeks of her life, she was too f*cked up. Attached to machines and pumped full of medicine. I was 8 years old. Now my uncle who had a stroke and a stomach aneurysm. When you visit him, sometimes he shuts his eyes and gets real quiet. He never cries out or complains but in those moments, he is lost in pain. He talks about suicide and I guess all he has to do is save up his painkillers for a while. My cousin, some kind of brain fart or aneurysm, I don't even know. She seems too young to be disabled but there it is. Doctor assisted suicide is legal now and hopefully by the time I need it all the red tape people are mired in now will be sorted.

Generally speaking, the way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death.

>>3019 Don't be like that. All we're doing is speculating and talking about the things that trouble us. It's a practice of mindfulness. Maybe it's unproductive and egotistical to you, but personally if I can't describe how I feel about a thing to someone, I can't expect myself to work around any issues it's giving me. Everyone becomes aware of death in their own way. I haven't had to deal with it as much as some, but I've noticed that a significant portion of who I am as a person is founded on how I've reacted to the deaths of loved ones.

>>3019 If you don't think your worldview matters why should I care. in that case take your own advice and be silent, rather than thinking your better for indulging in your own form of egomania.

We only ever get to live life through one perspective, that experience encompasses our whole existence. If you want to think about non-existence you can picture it as your experience of everything you aren't.

http://alcor.org/AboutCryonics/index.html As a transhumanist, death is one of my greatest enemies. I searched for solutions for some years until I discovered cryonics. It is far from ideal, but better than nothing in my opinion. I hope and am working toward overcoming death and disease within my own lifetime, but the fight is long and the foe eldritch and mighty; one must be certain to cover as many bases as possible as preparedness is key when combating ancient forces of nature. If I should fall before the great work is complete, then I will remain in waiting in my cold grave until another can fix what is broken and the defeat of our long time enemy is assured. I take no comfort in my preparations, I merely do what I can with the resources I have available. One can only hope it is enough. I have become, and now I desire to be more than most anything else; death represents the taking of my being, the taking of my property, the taking of my self. I have done and will continue to do everything possible to cheat, outwit, overpower, avoid, escape and otherwise overcome this final hurdle to my existence. Even if I must sacrifice my humanity and my entire present constitution to do so.

>>3020 Ok but what's your view?

>>3010 I Don't really deal with it, I may sound edgy and depressing by saying this, but I feel that by the time I am old enough to pass ( if nothing kills me before that ) I will have lived quite enough. I am just down with it, its inevitable

>>3010 >reincarnation here, let me give you a custom cosmology compatible with reincarnation >the mind emerges in one way or another from the physical interactions of networked neurons >these interactions are easily understood from a scientific perspective >just voltages and resistance, nothing magic >network dynamics are not unique in this sense >if i could design a perfect map between the neural mesh and the dynamics of some turbulent liquid, you would be forced to conclude that the liquid is conscious, no? >after all, it has all of the same expressive and dynamic capabilities that a bunch of cells does >it's not conscious in any way you or i could understand, but it "encodes" consciousness the same way our brain does. >why not generalize? surely the dynamics of global geological forces or complex gravitational interactions can be just as complicated and expressive as a lump of cells... >at this point, even if you don't accept "everything is conscious" you can at least say "everything has the ability to encode consciousness". We've basically reached "animism" for those of you keeping score... Now on to reincarnation: >if i put you in a matter replicator and made an exact copy, which one is the "real" you? >how do you and the copy figure that out? you have the same memories and the exact same neural state when the copy was created? >the answer is "you can't". every last dip and spike of voltage in your brains has been perfectly replicated. for an infinitely small instant, you were both the same person. >what if i scanned you and waited 100 years to make the copy? >congrats, you've just been reincarnated. >what if i encoded your neural mesh into the gravitational interactions of point-masses in space? >congrats, you've just been reincarnated in space. >but i can't actually do any of these things, and they may not even be possible right? >true, but time is infinite. is it really possible that the configuration of your lump of cells is so unique that its dynamics will never spontaneously emerge from any other material interaction, at any temporal or spatial scale? >if such a coincidence were to happen, we really wouldn't have a word for it other than "reincarnation". >we're literally talking about some physical system which has the exact same dynamics as your brain. >if that's not "you" i don't know what is.

Maybe its just because I am too young but I don't care about my lifespan for the moment I have no end goal in life other than getting gut with computers and when I am too bored I might end my life with a shotgun to the head

>>3573 What leads you to assume consciousness is unique to each individual? Our brains are unique but not necessarily the phenomenon of consciousness which is what makes us feel like "i exist", any brain capable of consciousness can foster that feeling. Why would I have to wait for that long even, when any conscious being would have the same feeling of "I am" that I have. Its just as likely when you die, in my opinion, there is simply another thing with this feeling of "I am". It isn't you reincarnated, just another conscious thing that "you" will feel. AKA There is nothing special about being you or conscious. Just an alternative idea. also I don't know if your propability works out. There is human games with more possible combinations than there are atoms in the universe or years its been around. My specific combination of atoms could not be replicated before the heat death of the universe. I mean it could i'm not very good with math, just questioning it.

There is no way for me to know what happens to my consciousness after death at this point. This makes me excited to die, because I want to find out what happens. Although I said I am excited to die, that doesn't mean I want it now; I want to live a long life and make the most of it, but I don't fear death; I am waiting for it to happen, and whenever it happens, I will have the opportunity to discover for myself what happens. At the same time, there is a bit of fear, because the idea of my consciousness disappearing forever isn't very comprehensible for me; i.e. I can't really imagine it. I hope there is something beyond death, but we don't know for sure at the moment.

>>3010 I used to struggle with the concept of death and other things like unfairness in life, but one day I just got mad and told myself that if life is trying to kill me and eventually it is going to kill me, I might as well try and make it as mad as possible by living the best god damn life possible. Currently I'm relapsing back into depression and nihilism, and I'm afraid that I'll kill myself, so it's not a very good solution to the problem, but it works most of the time. Anyways, I wish you luck, lainon

Your mind attached to a rotting brain, so i don't believe in reincarnation or mind uploading. The only thing you can do is to lead a healthy life and minimize the poisons and stress you take. I don't who is the luckier though. The young person, who die as a strong man or an old one who gave up on existing anyway because the pain and other things. It's just not fair, but as an ai said, we die, so we can live. At least we aren't a stupid hydra what leads its pointless life forever.

>>3010 I try not to think about death as it's inevitable and one must accept it. Back to 3 or 4 years ago I used to do lots of drugs. I used to think one day everyone has to die! why not live life fully i.e , my way of saying go on full madman and not give a fuarrrk about anything. I lost my best friend in that process and come to realize that life is not cheap, it is not yours to take. Live life responsibly and do what you love whole heartedly as time is ticking.

>>3018 fully agree. Death isn't so bad, it's the part right before you die that can suck. I figure, you have some time to exist and that's it. It's a fuarrrking gift and you need to cherish it and live it to the fullest.

Sadly, because of Schopenhauer (The World As Will And Representation), I am convinced that we all share the same consciousness, that's really depressing, because now I am forced to be altruistic :/ So, in a way, I believe in something that looks like reincarnation.

I don't know, I finished reading Schopenhauer last week and now I am in a deep depression ;-;

>>4350 I don't believe "mind uploading" will ever give you-the-human the sensation of being transferred from body to machine, but I do think it could eventually be possible to take a detailed image or scan of a human brain and fully emulate it. This will be less like moving you into a machine and more like creating a clone of you inside of it. The you-inside-the-machine will honestly believe itself to be the same person as you-the-human, with identical memories and experiences up to the moment of the scan, but you-the-human will still be a totally separate existence.

>>4378 Its funny I never read philosophers but somehow come up with an idea and then am told its some philosophers idea. Not even trying to brag or some soykaf, it's just a vague understanding in my head I'm sure they go into a lot of detail and have these proofs and arguments and all that. but is it similar at all to what I was saying here? >>3932 just curious if im back at it.

>How do you deal with the concept of dying? Well, death is not my fear, time is. I frenzy myself into the status of reading most days, the concept of halving my attention to the banal scares me. I don't want to die without finality, or a closure to what I've experienced. >Do you believe in an afterlife or does your brain simply cease functioning? I believe in the eternal return. The manifestation of so, that which is "existence", is not dissimilar to a dream state. The only way out is through, well, gnosis. Nonetheless, the fear of unknowing drives me to the status of the known, but it's not enough. The realization of this is horrific. I don't want to go through this again.