Legal GABAergics

Anyone have any experience with legal, fairly easily available GABAergics? For example, GBL, 1,4-B, 2M2B, and more common ones like Phenibut & Gabapentin (Think you need a prescription to obtain Gabapentin though, but it's not scheduled) How do you like these substances? Where did you acquire them? I want to try 2M2B in particular because it sounds awesome, but I worry about impurities in the stuff you can find easily online, even if it advertises a high concentration. Anyone take the risk?

Pregabalin is a nice one it isn't overwhelmingly sedating, lasts around 8h or so and gives me vivid dreams. in my country it's a prescription drug but it's not hard to get it without one. 1,4 BDO isn't to bad either, i order it every now and than from a chemical company and mix 3ml into a beer. it feels almost identical to alcohol except that it won't make me sick like alcohol dose at a certain dosage. it's also way stronger. thought about trying out 2M2B for quite some time now but never actually tried it, keep me updated in case you ever try it. also amanita muscaria is one of my favorites, in both small and high doses. i wouldn't recommend fuarrrking around with benzos

Currently on phenibut for the first time after thc withdrawals (blew through 5g of carts in a week), took almost a gram two hours ago and it's pretty comfy so far. I have a history of being a xanax and etizolam junkie and right now I don't feel that much of a bartard. >>8838 I can get my hands on gabapentin but I've heard some soykafty stuff about it and Lyrica.

>>8838 >it feels almost identical to alcohol I get slight MDMA like empathogen effects and strong music apprecation from 1,4 BDO/GBL/GHB. It's much better than alcohol. It's also one of the best sleep aids in existence (only problem is you have to take another dose when you get that dopamine rebound, it wakes you right up).

>>8838 >mix 3ml into a beer. Don't ever mix 1,4BDO and alcohol. 1,4BDO is metabolised into GHB by the same alcohol dehydrogenase enxymes as ethanol, and ethanol takes full priority, So none of the 1,4BDO will be metabolised into GHB until all the alcohol has been processed, and then the 1,4-BDO will all hit at once. A lot of people overdose that way because they don't feel the 1,4-BDO and keep taking more. Than a few hours it all hits them at once when the alcohol wears off.

>>8841 a few sources to back up my claim, also have personal experience with this

What's about self-synthesis of something OTC by OTC ? Chlorbutanol or chloral hydrate as example is acting on GABA isn't. I'm not familiar with chemistry, but seems if have a chemical facilities and acting accordingly to instructions and proportions chances that are something can went wrong is small.

Emylcamate is available at some RC sources and it's very similar to quualudes. It's expensive as fuarrrk tho.

>>8844 That's a disaster waiting to happen. Selling barbiturate like depressants to the bartards on RC benzos.

Gabapentin isn't GABAergic despite it being a GABA derivative.

>>8846 it does increase GABA in the brain, doesn't it? And trying it for the first time tonight haha ain't feeling soykaf yet

I've tried 2M2B, it tastes awful, and when I tried to push into higher doses, I got really bad delusions of sobriety (worse than benzos). I would have thought I was almost sober if I didn't have someone telling me how intoxicated I was.

>>8848 Were the effects pleasant besides that for you? >>8847 Update, didn't do soykaf for me last night besides make me a bit sleepy, but I only tried 600 mg. Doing 1200 mg today while also following a guide for maximum absorption and gonna see what happens.

>>8850 Up to 1800 now. This stuff doesn't do fuarrrking soykaf lol, I've spaced the doses by 45 minutes and ate a high fat snack with each dose, popped a high dose vitamin c pill for the acidity with each, but almost nothing. I feel a bit sedated but hardly a high.

>>8850 2M2B is pretty good, the effects were kinda inconsistent for me though, sometimes it felt like cold clinical sedation, other times I was warm and buzzy, moreso than ethanol. The negatives for me is it lasts too long and it makes me much more sleepy than ethanol, even on smaller doses.

>>8845 all in good fun :DDD

>>8840 >>8841 >>8842 next time I do 1,4 BDO I'll try it without alcohol and see how that goes, sounds like it's actually better without thanks

>>8847 Gabapentin does increase GABA concentrations but that's different from being gabaergic. Gabaergic means it binds to the GABA receptors I think. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3499716/

>>8858 Yesterday i tried 1,4BDO without alcohol and it sure is different, way better than alcohol you might wanna try that OP

When I was being drug tested, I mixed most of these and got mild-moderate benzo like effects. You just have to find decent extracts. Magnolol/Honokiol (80+% Magnolia Bark Extract) - GABA-A modulator/agonist - most benzo like Rosemarnic Acid (Lemon Balm or Rosemary extract) - GABA Transaminase inhibitor Valerian Root - GABA modulator Baicalein/baicalin (Skullcap Extract) - positive allosteric modulator GABAA L-Theanine (some effect on GABA downstream) Kava Kava Apigenin (Parsley or Chamomile extract)

I'm surprised nobody has said alcohol itself yet, it's a strong GABAergenic drug.

>>9422 >parsley i took a large dose of a parsley tincture I bought at a shady indian store in a desperate attempt to stave off benzo withdrawals. It had ALOT of myristicin in it, and it led to me being hospitalized for almost week. The doctor thought I tried to get high off nutmeg. It was a nightmare 2 day anticholinergic deleriant trip and just enough ativan at the hospital to prolong my withdrawal. would not recommend

>>9422 >Magnolol/Honokiol (80+% Magnolia Bark Extract) This has bioavailability issues. Oral is a waste, sublingual worked but felt caustic. Very noticeable anxioytic effect that only lasted 2 hours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imidazenil Potent benzo that's purely a anxiolytic and anti-convulsant. No sedation or memory/motor impairment, no tolerance or dependence... in rats, still no human studies besides anecdotes.

>>8987 where do you even buy 1,4BDO?

>>10193 You could buy it on amazon until NBC did a scare story about amazon selling it in 2020. Then a major recreational supplier was busted shortly after. It's harder to find now.

>>10196 are there any sites that sell it as cleaners that I can drink without killing myself?