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Cypher · 2020-06-29 20:44
What is lain's thought on smoking weed?
That being socially or morally, or in regards to its health drawbacks or benefits.
I'm interested in what your thoughts are on it broadly, rather than specific discussion about it.
Pic related, some blunts I rolled
HELIOS · 2020-06-30 14:37
>>6034
Just like any substance that messes with your dopamine, be it weed, cocaine or Methamphetamine. If you are taking it regularly, it'll probably fuarrrk with your dopamine receptors and make finding happieness and satisfaction without it significantly harder.
Just like all of the other happy-making drugs, don't take it regularly if you're interested in living long and happy without it. And for occasionally taking something it's decent since the street stuff is mostly untouched plant and more and more of the world is getting legal access to it.
Nguoi La · 2020-06-30 14:51
The advice to not abuse drugs is sound, but for people who abuse drugs, the causation is mostly psycho-social, so it's not very useful. If the user had a "normal" development and the user is psychologically relatively "normal", the user can probably experience drugs infrequently and not develop serious addiction.
Naomi Nascimento · 2020-06-30 15:34
>>6034
I first got into smoking pot, probably like many other people, in highschool with my buddies. Right after I graduated I got a job at the dollar store and smoked a bunch of weed with my manager, who sold a ton of it out of that store. To this day I think that smoking weed has made me a ton of friends and put me in interesting situations that I wouldn't have been in otherwise. Nowadays I only really smoke a joint after work sometimes, I've really cut back.
I've found that despite what the common belief is, weed DOES have some acute negative effects, namely that the day after I smoke I'm usually a bit less active and a bit more irritable than I would otherwise be. It's not as bad as an alcohol hangover however, it is present. I seriously doubt that there are any long-term negative effects from smoking infrequently (once a week or less). At some point of more regular usage, you probably are going to damage your respiratory system, just like smoking tobacco or anything else.
More than anything though, weed has given me an "escape valve" for my anxiety and stress. It allows me to step back and look at my life from a more neutral perspective which can be a really good tool for problem solving. I think I'm really lucky to be in a location where weed has been easily accessible to me my whole life.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2020-06-30 15:35
>>6034
Got any blunt rolling tips? I can never get them to seal as good as a joint.
Mitnick · 2020-06-30 19:09
i've been smoking weed almost daily for about 5 years now. i never have done any drugs before 17, including alcohol.
it kinda makes me dumb and fuarrrks with my short term memory if i use it over an extended period of time. I really notice that when i have nothing to smoke for a few days that my head and thoughts clear up and i can remember more things for a longer time.
no other drawbacks tho, the only other thing is sweaty hands.
i wen't throught several addictions over the last years and cannabis is by far the drug with the softest symptoms plus it just keeps working at the same dose, not as other drugs like alcohol, benzos, opiods or amphetamines wich quickly build up a tolerance and make me sick and even to the point where i hate myself for abusing them.
imo cannabis is fine if you'r old enogh and it should be legal anywhere
Roger Pollack · 2020-07-01 15:31
CBD seems to help with withdrawal as well.
Cypher · 2020-07-02 08:40
>>6041
You gotta get them sufficiently wet for the glue to stick and also have enough time to dry, it's not like a joint where you can smoke it a few minutes after rolling.
I tend to keep them in my cigar case after rolling them then check every hour or so to see if any of the edge has lifted up, then i put a little bit of water on my finger and flatten it back down, repeat til perfect then smoke the next day.
Cypher · 2020-07-02 12:45
I was a huge weed smoker.
Since 4~5 years, completely stopped (I still smoke with pals at some rares occasions).
Stopping weed was a good point in my life, like quitting a constant mental fog, more creativity, more motivation, more energy to do things.
Drugs in general could be cool but not on a everyday routine (and I was in opiates to).
Arisu Mizuki · 2020-07-03 03:55
>>6053
>(and I was in opiates to).
I feel like this negates the rest of your post's content..
Faye Valentine · 2020-07-03 08:45
I would concur with
>>most of the comments above
from first hand experience. Addictive substances, abuse and ramifications are a thing. Don't fall for the hype dear lain!
>>6034
Sharp rolling skills! Never did blunts with tobacco leaves, only usual smoking papers.
Ivan Petrov · 2020-07-03 13:56
>>6059
Explain?
Lady 3Jane.. · 2020-07-03 14:26
>>6059
lol it really doesn't. Listen to the junkies that will speak to you. They are the most understanding and experienced veterans of what you're going through. Junkies who are still eyeball-deep in ѕһіt won't speak to you. They'll just steal from you. But the recovered ones are an important viewpoint, you really ought to give it some consideration.
Weed isn't as bad, that's dead-obvious. The worst thing about weed is that it makes you fine with being bored, makes you okay with wasting your life away in mundane ways that aren't dramatic, rock-bottom catastrophes. So you never fix them, and you wake up pathetic one morning decades older with nothing to show for it. The worst thing about opiates is how expensive they are in addition to addictive. They make you a psychopathic thief.
J.C. Denton · 2020-07-03 14:33
>>6064
What are you even talking about? He said he was experiencing brainfog and lack of creativity while on both weed and opiates.
I said it seems more like the opiates than the weed would have that effect. None of what you said had anything to do with what I posted.
Crazy Jake · 2020-07-03 14:53
>>6065
My bad, I'm sorry. I misinterpreted your meaning. But I also think that the fogginess in weed is real and people attribute way more creativity to it than it deserves
Hong, Guil Dong · 2020-07-04 14:05
>>6066
Ah right lol no harm done sorry for biting your head off lol.
I mean I do get slowed down but not brainfog personally, the main negative I experience is just losing my train of thought sometimes.
Maybe it's a strain thing. I definitely gt more creativity on it
Marly Krushkhova · 2020-07-04 14:39
>>6066
Well it really depends on the usage and quantity of consumption. Weed is really bad when you have to do things that are kinda boring and you know how to do.
If I'm stuck on an interesting problem, I've found out that smoking a bit of weed gives me a different perspective and motivation to continue. I wouldn't call this exactly creativity but it leads to more creativity.
The most dangerous thing with weed is how deep you can get into it that you leave your life and dreams behind. Most full time stoners lose their friends and lives for stoned masturbation.
Incognito · 2020-07-04 15:10
>>6072
Exactly how fuarrrked up does one need to get to enhance jacking off?
I always heard tales of stoned jerking being awesome but physically it feels no different to me.
I get more "wonder" at whatever i'm watching, like with anything else, but haven't really noticed anything aside from that.
Netrunner · 2020-07-04 15:19
>>6064
>>6065
I am >>6053.
To be clear I was in weed long time before opiates and my sentence was exclusively related to weed smoking.
Personally opiates (despite all the dark sides) never give me the bored/mentalfog/laziness weed induced to me. The two combined sure don't help.
But opiates are not as weed: Lighter body, dream enhancer, huge creativity and mind freeing. Just my personal feel tho.
TL;DR don't do drugs a routine. Don't mess with opiates.
Absolute Wanker · 2020-07-05 01:49
>>6074
I must agree, weed fuarrrks me up more than any drug, save for copious amounts of alcohol/xanax (that said I can function fine on a little of either, can't say the same about weed). Opiates are massively motivating for me and also extremely euphoric and comforting. Like being in the womb again.
William Holtzer · 2020-07-05 02:46
I think from a health perspective, it's probably similar to huffing campfire smoke; not good for you to do repeatedly. From a psychological perspective, I feel that it's a sort of crutch. I've always felt that anyone I talk to that smokes (or drinks, for that matter), is running from something they don't like. Their word choice, their actions, body language, etc. all indicate that they are running. My preferred problem solving skills are far more direct. Why run when you can just solve the problem? Far more respectable to try and fail than to run and hide, in my opinion.
I know not everyone will agree with that, but psychology and people are complex, and I won't make the claim that I know it any better than anyone else.
Hitomi · 2020-07-05 08:04
>>6076
I'd say you weren't far off but take your definition for a moment and try thinking of it in a different light.
>running from something
I agree that's true for a lot of people, but it could just as well be used as self improvement tool.
You could, then, similarly say that something like working out at the gym is "running from" one's old, less fit self.
In a way it's true, but framing it that way doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing.
I smoke daily. I admit my natural state is depression. I don't see anything inherently bad about running from being miserable.
Full disclaimer; my life is great. I had a brain injury as a child. My depression is definitely chemical and not circumstantial.
Hacker · 2020-07-05 14:46
>>6076
>I've always felt that anyone I talk to that smokes (or drinks, for that matter), is running from something they don't like.
I agree, but "just solve the problem lol" seems like a very naive way to look at things.
Jim Hilger · 2020-07-05 14:47
>>6076
Sometimes "running" is the only way to survive. That's why dissociation in people who experienced abuse is common.
experience abuse -> dissociate (PTSD) (because there is no way to recover within reality because of insufficient support and understanding) -> resort to using drugs to further dissociate, survive -> get the psychotic label or similar because you're dissociating on drugs -> receive further abuse because of this -> eventually probably death or homelessness or sucking dick for fentanyl or similar
The cycle of life for the abused.
Unidentified · 2020-07-06 00:50
>>6076
Things are much more complex than what you would like to think that this world is clear cut and black/white like that.
Some people smoke out of necessity of not going crazy. It is a crutch, but a needed crutch for this modern lifestyle. Remember how in the 50s the commercials were "after a long hard day you come home to take the ease with a glass of whiskey" or something like that, and then came the benzodiazepans and USA became drug addled.
There is a need for crutches in social sense of the world in this modern world. Arguing for weed is arguing for less harmful crutch. What you're arguing for is something most people can't get into due to their life circumstances.
Sometimes you just have too much on your plate and you can't cater to it all and it gives you too much stress. Sometimes emotional pain from past doesn't let you sleep and you need to wake up in 5 hours to do your job to which your boss is already pissed at you or either you won't make rent.
Nobody likes crutches, trust me. We all wish we could run the fastest we want and frolic around the meadows. But until the fuarrrking injury heals, and plaster can be removed these crutches will keep me from moving any faster... and no, only thing that can heal these injuries is heavy introspection and time.
So no, "git gud" doesn't do anyone any favors. Please, if you have any kind of constructive criticism or helpful insight into how to help me with my emotional problems then please, be of any help and net positive experience in this world. Otherwise you're just whining and telling others "I don't like this". To which my only response is "kay".