Caffeine

Not generally what you think of when you think of drugs, but what are lainons thoughts on caffeine? How do you consume it? Coffee? Energy drinks? Gum? How much do you have a day? I generally drink 2 cups of coffee a day as well as the occasional soda.

Caffeine is soykaf-tier (no pun intended with the language enhancer) but yeah I have coffee every day. May as well, my roommate always has a pot on and it's free to mooch. I have one cup and he has like twenty a day, so I'm not really worried about it. Caffeine is ѕһіtty coke. Doesn't really wake you up, just raises your heart rate and increases your anxiety without affecting your overall alertness. At least coke makes you feel alright. But as long as you drink a reasonable amount (like some regular coffee, none of that weird gamer ѕһіt or black and blue cold brew craziness) then it's basically just a decent enough culinary experience and nothing more. Like having a glass of red wine with steak.

Doesn't wake me up and gives me headaches when I drink too much but at least tastes good. soykaf/soykaf

I have been drinking coffee for a decade now daily coupled with energy drink sometimes and only thing it does to me is to relieve withdrawal symptoms. Good coffee is a good culinary experience as other lainon noted while being soykaf-tier as an drug.

>>5934 Coke IS caffeine...

I'm a baristotle myself. Consume lots every day, mostly capps and some espressos. Dream about owning my own small cafe and a cute little 3kg Fuji roaster. 5934 is a funny silly boi.

I drink almost a liter of black coffee (no sugar) everyday since I was a kid, never noticed any effect on my sleep or anxiety.

>>5939 Lol is this a bit? It sure ain't

>>5940 I mean I fully agree with the culinary aspect of it, love a decent espresso. But what I don't get is the hordes of people treating it like a productivity drug. Doesn't seem to work that way it most cases from my experience, but that doesn't stop them.

I don't get any effects from caffeine, so I just drink stuff for the taste. Normally start my day with a capuccino (have an expresso machine at home) and then drink approx 0.75 to 1 liter of mate (south american drink) while working, then some irish breakfast tea before going to sleep.

>>5942 No I really took leave of my senses and forgot what else Coke means. My bad

Mostly tea, about 2 liters every day. I buy quality tea and use every bit twice, so the caffeine intake on second boil is lower. I like coffee better, but I tend to get pretty steep peaks and valleys, so lots of tea over the day solved it. I will still have coffee twice a week, when I go out with friends. >>5940 what are the expert's thoughts on coffe and tonic? I actually liked it, but once was enough.

I recently had a stay in a mental hospital (uk) and after two days I started getting horrific headaches. I assumed it was due to stress and the god-awful fluorescent lighting. But after a while I realised it was caffeine withdrawal. I'd gone from multiple strong coffees a day to zero (all they had was decaf), the headache persisted as long as I was there but when I got home one cup of coffee cured me right up. I'm a full blown addict and I'll never go without it again.

>>5941 well, to notice a difference, you would have to have a break in between your days of coffee consumption

>>5946 Coffee tonic is interesting to try once, but I don't like it. We actually serve it during summer, made with grapefruit schweppes. Meh. It has more potential in alcoholic cocktails. >>5943 I misunderstood your post, sorry. Let the people do their thing. Sometimes you need a bit of placebo to keep on going, nothing wrong with that.

I drink a can of energy drink nearly daily. Often it helps me to be a bit more energetic but sometimes it makes so nervous that I'm paralyzed

I don't drink coffee much, but when I do it has to be full of sugar and milk to mask the bitter taste

>>5965 I drink coffee without sugar not to mask the bitter taste.

>>5933 I drink 2-3 cups a day honestly I fuarrrking love it and wish I could drink more without getting the soykafs

>>5933 I made a caffeine/coffee thread here, years back, but lost track of it shortly after starting it. It was before the wipe. I use my trusty French press to make coffee daily. I used to drink a lot every day, with a typical automatic drip maker, but turning my coffee-making into a ritual has helped me drink much less. I drink about six to ten cups a day now, with the French press being on the small side and producing two each run. I clean the French press by tossing the used grounds into the yard, boil water in a stove kettle, and it produces better coffee on top of that. I got a moka pot for Christmas, but it's been a bit since I've used it much. I keep wanting to use it, but it's much more effort in all respects, so I daily find myself just using the French press. I got a grinder lately, so now I can buy whole beans to use and save more money. I think the coffee also tastes better, even buying whole beans from the brands I dislike. It lacks an aftertaste the big brands have when buying pre-ground. I haven't had any soda in years and I consume very little sugar. Coffee is my only source of caffeine, and I'm addicted, but I don't mind being addicted to caffeine. I also like tea, so I usually switch to that at some point in the day. I should add I drink my coffee with no additives whatsoever. I've only even put milk in my tea when I was drinking a British brand I couldn't stomach otherwise. It made me sick, but the milk made it very pleasant, actually.

I usually take caffeine pills because they don't make nauseous is large amounts unlike coffee and don't make me piss as much. Usually take like 100-400mg depending on what I'm doing and for how long. I usually start tapering off after two to three weeks of use because I hate those headaches and after the 2nd week my tolerance makes it pretty much useless.

>>5933 I drink about 0.25l of coffee a day, usually in the form of Turkish coffee. You grind the coffee beans to a very fine powder (think cocoa powder), put a lot of it into a pot, pour cold water on top and simmer it for a couple minutes. It's not a lot of effort, aside from the grinding (cheap electric machines don't cut it because they cut with blades, not a mill, so hand-cranking it is), and what you get is more flavorful and satisfying than usual since some of the finest parts of the powder enters the coffee and makes it thicker. Always without sugar and cardamom for me, but some people add both to the pot. Best with some fig rolls on the side, imho. If you get it in a coffee shop, you usually get a piece of Turkish Delight with it, which I dump in the coffee since it soaks up the flavor nicely.

I used to drink one to three cups (darkest coffee I could find) every day until I thought that it wasn't worth being addicted to it. Days off from it would give me really bad headaches so I got off for a month. It was alright but when I tasted it again... I realized all the good it gave me. It just makes me happier person overall. Suddenly I'm super interested in everything, more talkative and the joy I get from pursuing my hobbies is amplified tenfold. Also the boost in focus and problem solving makes it really great for learning or basically anything for that matter. I feel like it makes me more of a human which scares the heck out of me. I don't want to be addicted to it so I keep days off here and there but I do strongly prefer life with it than without it even though I kind of wish I did not. Even simple things like conversations flow so much more naturally when on caffeine. Maybe I'm just broken somehow and I'm using caffeine to elevate myself to "normal levels" but who knows :(

I drink coffee for the most part i have 1-3 cups of pic related Yuban has been the only coffee i love nothing comes close to it as a daily driver for me. not to weak not too strong just perfect.

i want to try yerba mate, what brands can I get? i don't have a tea kettle or coffee maker or a lot of money

>>6157 That's a lovely drink! I enjoy it more in the most simple and least orthodox way - a spoon full of leaves to a cup, add boiling water and done. Occasionally will add a tiny bit of honey. No special utensils needed. I presume it'd be the cheaper of the natural caffeinated drinks per gram too.

Nicotine + coffee first thing in the morning. Will give you a rush every single time. Basically knocking you on your ass. But after a couple minutes, you're wide awake. Two stimulants that are ok on their own, but very good paired together.

>>6157 >>6161 I second this lainon. Would like that you can also use a French press (cafetière) for making yerba mate, as well as coffee.

>>6164 Snus and caffeine. doesn't matter if I couldnt sleep much makes me wide away for work :) I need to get a replacement for my french press glass. old roomate broke it on accident.. I miss the french press and my manual grinder ritual. Now I've been using a viatnamese coffee strainer and its tedious to have to keep pouring and waiting for the water to slowly seep.

>>6153 that's just everyone don't worry, all us coffee drinkers are like that

back when I slept a decent amount, I would slurp a cup of coffee and 2-3 cups of tea every day (switching to green tea at about 1 PM). Shit makes me feel amazing. Now I've got insomnia that I haven't bothered to fix and I have to drink coffee to function in the morning but I get no other benefit.

Pretty sure most people who don't like 'em haven't tried Specialty beans or just always get a bad brew. I never liked anything from starbucks except their pastries. The problem is these generic cafes are usually using very acidic distilled or purified water with fluorine/chlorine or something so it always tastes bad even if you're top tier barista. Some even microwave the already microwaved distilled water and you'll know it when it was very hot that you can't sip but then gets extremely cool at some random time. I usually drip brew with specialty high altitude Arabica Typica and spring water. It took me long to 'eye' the right temperature, estimate grind size (usually medium roast need to be coarser), and amount for the perfect flavor. I've also found out fresh roasts aren't always better and that I prefer it when it had degassed those funky ash smell after few weeks. The last problem was consistency since I don't have those fancy thermometer/scale and my coffee sources usually have inconsistent flavor densities (probably a different tree). >>6153 >Suddenly I'm super interested in everything, more talkative and the joy I get from pursuing my hobbies is amplified tenfold. Sensory neurites programming. You've successfully bio-hacked urself congrats. If you want to drain out caffeine out of your system anytime, just detox with broccolis.

I've starting making my own cold brew because I have no coffee maker and I'm brand new to coffee. I buy some nice beans from a local independent cafe and brew in a mason jar and filter with an old wife beater that is clean. I drink it black. I take week long breaks from caffeine every once in awhile

I'm told I should try drinking higher-quality coffee: as others have mentioned already, it's better as a culinary experience than it is as a drug. I'm a cheapo with a bad sense of taste, seemingly. I have varied between drinking no coffee and drinking far too much. Withdrawals last a day or two, but regardless of the amount I consume, it is always fairly manageable headaches and lethargy. I don't think it necessarily enhances cognition to any significant degree, from my own anecdotal experience, it just allows you to fool yourself regarding how tired you are. Positive effects include the lack of a compulsion to sleep, and specifically when drinking more than usual - increased energy and elevated mood. Negatives include agitation, I notice nail-biting scales relative to caffeine consumed. I can comfortably drink up to 800 mg caffeine in coffee daily, after that the "fun" begins. The positive effects are not amplified, but the negatives are. You get diarrhea. I've also noted weight loss, if you keep it up for several weeks. I note similar to how smokers like the smell of smoke, I like the smell of coffee. Even soykafty coffee. I like to shove my face in a steamy mug and sniff it up. I only drink it black, with water if it needs cooled, and sometimes double strength. I keep to around 300-400 mg caffeine these days for my physical and mental health.

>>6192 Whats the context with the broccoli? Not getting anything via search.

I’ve been drinking coffee since I was 3 (irresponsible parenting, I know). When I was 15/16, my parents got a new coffee maker. I didn’t know how to work it, so I’d just make espresso and pull shot after shot — enough to fill up a water bottle with it. Later, I wound up studying abroad and getting addicted to Monster energy. I’ve already had a can of Nos (energy drink) today and I’m still exhausted. After work today, I’ll go home and brew a pot of Death Wish Coffee. It’ll taste like ass because I don’t have a coffee grinder and accidentally bought whole bean coffee and wound up beating the soykaf out of the bag with a hammer and then running it over with my car. Around 20:00, I’ll make another pot of coffee. It won’t affect my sleep. I won’t feel awake. I’ll probably pass out around 2:00 or 3:00, then wake up at 8:30, start my day with another energy drink, and do it all over again. If I don’t have enough cash for energy drinks, I’ll take Hydroxycut for the caffeine. It won’t do anything, but hopefully I won’t fall asleep driving to work. I am so tired. SSRIs weren’t good to me, but when I was on them, they reduced my caffeine tolerance. That was nice. Nicotine and caffeine combo didn’t do anything for me, either, but I genuinely like the taste of cigarettes. How many of y’all have ADHD? I’ve heard of people using caffeine to self-medicate. I accidentally discovered that I’ve got ADHD a few months back, and now I’m stuck wondering if I’ve just had a lifetime of self-medication. Would quitting caffeine make me hyperactive? Or would the caffeine withdrawals headaches kill my resolve in the process? I envy you all who still can feel something when you drink coffee. I’d rather be a jittery mess than perpetually dead inside. (And yes, while caffeine doesn’t stunt your growth, I am absurdly short.)

Most days I'm in a rush. So I'll run instant coffee, cold, in a water bottle.. a little less potent than how it would be mixed hot. Alternatively I'll do the cheap citrus energy drinks or the "recovery" ones that are non-carbonated. If I'm feeling special or cold, I do a proper drip brew of coffee or some loose leaf black tea. If it's hell week and I'm swingin' solid 72 hr runs. I'll dip the insta-coffee with tobacco. And usually bolster with black tar sludge cowboy coffee, With that it's either percolator or pot made and goes straight into a thermos. --- Note: After hell week or similar soykaf I reduce caffeine to a minimum for 3-7 days and flush my system.

I've tried different beans and they're really not the same. Some single origins are especially good, different species have different effects and taste, Liberian coffee variants for example has more isoflavone content and "soy/flax" flavor than Arabica and high-altitude also modifies the flavor and aroma to be more sweeter due to natural lactic acid produced from low-oxygen/temperature. >Caffeine I don't prefer caffeine, actually the beans I order were known to be low on caffeine but it still depends on how it's brewed. I prefer the effects of quercetin, the anti-oxidant effect of coffee than the "wakeful" effect of caffeine that does nothing but make your bladder overactive and make you feel restless wakie wagie effect?. A good coffee can get you in the "zone" better than potentially fatal/addictive and expensive recreational drug. This is why Jazz and Cafes are so commonly interlinked.

>>6871 Over-consumption can fuarrrk with your kidneys or you may even have (temporary) enlarged kidneys out of it. There's also problems with moldy beans which have neurotoxins so you should only buy from known farmers and not buy from factory soykaf or even that famous multinational brand. >caffeine withdrawals https:// www.wikihow.com/Get-Caffeine-Out-of-Your-System Get it out of your system. For a day, try a cruciferous diet and stop coffee. You'll probably sleep about 12-16 hours after detoxification but the headaches will be gone after a few days or if it's not gone just sleep more and cut the coffee consumption by half for the next few days. I think if you're ADHD, nicotine is a better option and you can even source nicotine from brown-fried eggplants.

>>6897 Nicotine gum has no *known* adverse impacts to health and doesn't cost that much (at least insofar as cigarettes themselves usually cost in most developed countries)

>>6898 The big ATF industries hate these alternatives that they even faked studies on the nicotine content of other nightshades.

>>6908 I get a calming, more relaxing feeling than anything else when I drink coffee. I don't really have a "racing heart" or anything like that. Sometimes I'll be a tad bit more talkative or more upbeat but it just mellows me out with putting me in a good mood. I tend to take in information a lot better and my concentration skills are much more on point for a few hours. Funny that you posted a picture of Tweak, people have called me that after telling them about how I am when I drink coffee.

>>6898 Well, if it's giving you Nicotine, isn't that itself adverse to health? After all, it's meant as a tool to ween you off cigarettes.

>>6898 Chemical dependence is an adverse impact on health.

>>6908 >I do absolutely love the taste Same. Sure, I'll never, ever, drink decaf but that hot bitter bean water just hits the spot, you know? I also love the vein feel of heroin. Idk why, it just feels so nostalgic. I don't even care about the other effects anymore but for some reason the best part of waking up is china white in my veins lol JK you're cool >>6908 *because* you admitted caffeine is an addiction. I'm less addicted to drugs than anyone I know because I don't smoke weed or drink coffee every single day. I still do drugs constantly of course. I merely do meth 5 days a week, then dxm or beer once every week. I regularly take months off too. It's unironically sad seeing my parents try to function without their caffeine fix. Now if only we could get alcoholics to admit that the reason they don't drink non-alcoholic beer is they like getting drunk more than they like the cold bitter grain water.

>>6909 Same here, I've always found caffeine to be very calming. In fact, some of the best nights of sleep I've gotten in my life have been times when I've fallen asleep right after drinking a cup of coffee. It's always seemed bizarre to me when people talk about coffee making them jittery and anxious. >>6930 I'm not the lainon you're responding to, but just because you don't like how something tastes doesn't mean no one does. It's true that I drink coffee for the caffeine, but if I didn't like the taste then I'd fill it up with milk and sugar, or I'd drink an energy drink or several cups of tea instead. The reason I specifically choose black coffee for my caffeine fix is because I like how it tastes. Also, non-alcoholic beer tastes like soykaf. I very rarely drink (I actually can't even remember when the last time I had any alcohol was), and I haven't actually gotten drunk in a very long time, but I'd much rather quit drinking altogether than try to convince myself that a soykafty non-alcoholic beer tastes anywhere near as good as an actually good beer. Then again, if you see someone saying that kind of thing while buying Bud Light or PBR or some other soykafty cheap beer that tastes just as bad as the non-alcoholic stuff, then you can call them out on it.

>>6934 I'm also easily able to go to bed shortly after having a nice cup of coffee. I wonder what makes us so different from others.

idk how you do it. I had coffee the last 2 days and feel tired now. It makes me want to score coke. I only drink percolated, never any instant stuff, its horrible.

>>6934 There are decent-tasting alcohol-free stout beers. Likewise, tasty decaff also exists. Useful when you drink a lot of it and don't like palpitations (a few full pots will do it).

>>6940 That reminds me, I need to get this really old pot to brew some coffee with from my grandma. I believe it's from the mid to late 40s.

I've had to recently start cutting down on coffee as it has a burning sensation in my throat. I've also been experiencing some minor blood coming up when I hack due to a feeling of something being stuck in my throat. It wasn't bad after 1 day of no coffee and I wasn't experiencing it at all after day 2. I hate not being able to drink my coffee and sit down while I do some reading. Coffee helps me concentrate and intake information. I've been interested in adderall for the same reasons but have no idea how to acquire some. So, I'm stuck with just coffee for the time being. I just hope that reducing my intake for a short time will help instead of being stuck with not drinking any coffee ever again.

>>5968 as a britbong I'm always confused when hearing about tea without milk I understand green tea or fruit teas without milk, even certain black teas like Lapsang Souchong which has a smoky flavour but big standard black tea is always served with milk here, how do you have it without it?

>>6951 yeah black tea without milk is disgusting >>6953 honestly I don't have any lethargy without caffeine... I haven't had any yet today and I'm still ticking along fine. That said I usually sip tea until about 3 PM I think for me it's just a strict enhancement. As long as I don't drink too much or drink it too late there are no downsides.

I like coffee, the taste, aroma and energy it provides. Recently I switched from instant coffee to french press, and I'm liking it very much. Although I drink instant at work still. Most of the times I drink it black, without sugar. Some times, I add some milk and sweetener. I don't enjoy energy drinks or anything with just caffeine in it. Black coffee is better IMO.

I also drink about two cups a day of black coffee. I like to make it in either an Italian style percolator (which produces something vaguely like espresso) or just drip coffee. French press is nice too but I've never managed to get the timing right so the quality isn't much better than what I could get with other methods (plus grinding the beans is a pain and store bought ground coffee doesn't work right).

Caffeine does literally nothing for me. I could drink a pot of coffee and go right to sleep, the same with energy drinks.

>>6953 There is also the case of local stores which just let coffee burn on the re-heater for several hours. McDonalds tend to do that less, so the coffee is generally less terrible. Though homebrewing is obviously the best option.

I have an inexpensive stainless steel french press I use for filtering coffee and tea. I begin every morning with 20oz of coffee and drink 40-60oz of green tea after that. Without caffeine I get photosensitive headaches that can last for two days.

>>7065 Caffeine headaches are no joke. I find caffeine withdraw to be at least as bad as a hangover.

>>7069 For me hangovers always come with an emotional component of depression, anxiety, sense of dread, accompanied with the inability to focus on anything. Caffeine withdrawal is just the inability to focus, and maybe a mild pressure in the skull.

hows yerba mate?

I have about 2 coffees a day too, quite a few soft drinks too (3-4 cans). Though I'm trying to lower my intake of the latter. Only issue I have with caffeine is that it gives me the soykafs. That alone is pushing me into trying a "real" drug, so I can get a stronger boost without soykafting myself.

I drink at least 500 mL of strong, dense and handmade brazilian coffee with no sugar every fuarrrking day. If I don't, I get headaches and wooziness.

I drink a truly shameful amount of diet soda everyday, like an absurd amount, I feel more shame about it than I ever did about smoking but smoking was paradoxically way easier to quit, I couldn't go more than 3 days without it I like a cup of coffee on occasion but I'm hopelessly addicted to fake sugar water

>>5933 I drink a lot of green or black tea because it helps me relax. I only drink coffee if I haven't slept enough. >>7535 How? Do you get actual drug cravings for diet soda?

I drink coffee while I stay off all drugs, it kind of helps

>>7076 It kind of tastes like earl grey tea. But it's way more energizing than coffee.

>>7536 If you've ever tried to quit smoking its a similar feeling to the one you get about the 24 hour mark off nicotine, not a physically sick feeling but a constant underlying compulsion to have some soda thats easy to ignore for a short while but constantly wears you down and you become unable to stop thinking about it for more than a few minutes

>>7541 bro how is this even real haha, just like don't drink it

>>7535 I was the same and it utterly fuarrrked my teeth, my only saving grace is I live in a country with socialised dental care. I managed to significantly reduce my intake my just keeping the bottles in a different room past the cold water tap, means by the time I'm there most the compulsion is gone and I can just pour a glass of water. Doesn't help with the caffeine withdrawal though, it might help to start switching to a no-caffeine diet soda and from there reduce until you can get rid of it.

>>7541 >>7544 Jeez man, I drank a lot of soda in my day but I had no idea it had this effect on people.

Does lain use l-theanine with caffeine?

Caffeine above 68mg gives me caffeine. I usually drink 1-2 cokes a day.

>>7582 *caffeine gives me anxiety

>>5942 >>5945 >Coke IS caffeine... Likely if you consume street cocaine it will have caffeine in it. >Caffeine was found in 50.2% of the samples, at relatively low doses, being added to simulate the CNS stimulating properties of cocaine. From https://doi.org/10.1016/S0955-3959(03)00083-5 (pdf attached).

>>7563 Indirectly, most of my caffeine intake is via tea which compensates for its reduced caffeine absorption via l-theanine.

lainons i am out of everything. no weed, no nuthin. i have coffee though, has anyone here ever managed to get a caffeine high? I'm willing to drink as much as it takes

Just remember than caffeine is toxic beyond a certain dose, and that a dose spread over a day differs from one taken in 5 minutes, risk-wise and effect-wise.

thanks for the heads up... i don't usually drink coffee so I feel like I could get to something without being even near a bad dose

if I drink like 3 cups of coffee back to back I get high. It's terrible. Caffeine is great for a light buzz but it's not a serious stimulant.

It's basically impossible. It just starts to feel like soykaf at a certain point because you start overdosing. I used to literally insufflate powdered caffeine and never got any more "high" then you'd get from drinking a lot of coffee.

There is such a thing as a caffeine overdose, it's dependent on bodyweight. You can search online for a simple lethal dose calculator. Don't go too hard on the coffee.

A general rule of thumb is that 5 grans of caffeine is leathal

Don't be fuarrrking retarded, you can't get high off of drinking coffee. If you have too much, all you will experience is feelings not unlike a panic attack then it will go away after a few hours. Keep drinking beyond that and you will probably die.

About two years ago I took 3 200mg caffeine pills, felt a little bit like doing Amphetamine and little bit like i would die today never did that again

>>7872 >you can't get high off of drinking coffee. If you have too much, all you will experience is feelings not unlike a panic attack then it will go away after a few hours. What do you call it when you drink so much coffee that you can feel your skin crawling, cant stop shaking, and have an altered sense of perception?

A few years ago I had a panic attack/kind of manic episode from consuming an entire bag of sugary sweets in about an hour like the manchild I am, was about 150g of Sugar >Sweating badly enough that shirt was stuck completely to back, eyes darting, luring sense of impending death or some other extreme but undefined bad event, acted as if it was real (asked others around me what was happening and if they could feel it), heart racing, far too hot, sudden urge to soykaf and piss where I was like I was dumping waste before a fight, hyperawareness of small details that suddenly seemed important Is this what a panic attack from coffee is like or did I have some kind of sugar induced brush with death? >>7872

Has anyone ever tried smoking tea? I kinda want to try it for the novelty, but don't know if the chemicals even evaporate or if they just decompose.

I heard grean tea is relaxing, i think its even in some smoking mixes. Herbs of all kinds can be smoked, like lavender and mint are great.

i snort caffeine ig its subjective but it certainly wakes me up and makes me feel good even better couples with something like alcohol

Guys, how do I quit caffeine? I used to like drink a whole bottle of vodka daily a few years ago but I stopped drinking completely with no problem and haven't had the urge to get drunk since then, similarly I quit smoking by simply throwing away a pack of cigarettes when it got boring and never picked up another pack, yet for some reason I cannot stop drinking coffee. Whenever I try to quit I end up coming back to the same point again and quitting cold turkey makes working borderline impossible for me.

>>8131 Why do you need to quit?

>>8136 Because it's affecting mennegatively. I no longer get an actual buzz from caffeine, I just feel like soykaf if I don't get some during the day and those coffee packs and caffeine pills add up in price.

>>8128 i just buy it online dont get any headache and dont rly like coke

>>8139 I've tried that but I always end up relapsing in the end. I dont think I've had a month without caffeine since at least 2009.

One of the nice things about combining coffee with l-theanine is not feeling like pic related after a couple hours. Rather than a crash it's just a gentle glide down. I've experimented with varying doses, and it always feels so nice for my stomach not to feel like a pit to hell after the caffeine loses effect. I remember last year when I was studying by the end of every school day I would feel utterly destroyed, literally unable to keep consciousness during the train ride. During that time I was using extreme dosages of coffee, less about enjoying it, and more about compensating for my 2 hours of sleep tonight.

So let's say I consume liters of coffee everyday since I was a kid due to it being cultural where I live, how long should I stop drinking it so my tolerance goes down and it actually have an effect on me?

>>8810 probably a week or two

I'm drinking dark roasted Starbucks coffee. The box says "Rich and carmelly notes" but it tastes more like "Poor and shroomy notes, also coal" Picrelated, literally soykaf.

I drink a lot of coffee. Brazilian, strong, black, sugarless, toasted. 1 liter plus a day. Don't feel like stopping. I don't feel any discomfort.

>>8924 >1 liter plus a day. Wow. >I don't feel any discomfort. Interesting. How old are you? It might be that "coffee bad" is a myth made by yerba drinkers. t. only two cups a day pussy

I want to drink coffee more if there's hot outside. Does anyone feel the same or know the cause?

i like to buy whole bean coffee in bulk from a warehouse club, since i know that the supplier for all the local cafes also sells beans there. instead of paying $15 dollars for a 1lb bag i get 2lbs for $12. i also splurged on a combination grinder/brewer with a timer so it freshly brews it after my alarm goes off.

i have been drinking caffeine in some capacity everyday since late 2010, my opinion is that it depends on what you get it from (although i am especially sensitive to just about everything). drinking coffee/sugar free energy drinks effects me negatively (both in different ways) and make me so damn jumpy that i can hardly communicate with people. hot teas? no problem, in fact i feel better than i normally would, the lack of coffee compounds (lots of different stuff in it) or artificial sweetners from the energy drinks makes all the difference. tea also has theanine in it which smooths out caffeine "high" and makes it soothing and a more focused stimulation rather than a frenzied one. the downside (for me, personally) is kinda gross; i made the switch a couple of years ago, but did it gradually, so was drinking all three of these things during the same time period. i also started being literally unable to do anything for the entire day after taking a soykaf if i drank tea the day before, something in it makes the inside of my asshole itch and it's fuarrrking nasty/hellish. even worse that it took me so long to identify what the cause was, now i only drink tea when i know i have nothing i have to do that involves walking around (which is most of the time because i'm essentially a neet who lives on disability).

>>5933 I personally love caffeine and can't live without it. After failing to get diagnosed with ADD (not because I don't have it but because UK doctors are gatekeepers) it seems like caffeine is main legal route when it comes to managing my issues. The only problem is it's addictive, much more so than nicotine in my experience. Building up tolerance is a pain in the ass and tolerance breaks involve headaches, moodyness and having to nap every few hours.

>>9103 Thank you for the story, I got a laugh out of it lain

drink between two cups and two pots a day I'm too lazy and [up till this month] too depressed to cook properly, and its hunger suppressant effects are preferable to the impossible challenge of recovering property from eating unhealthy zero-effort foods and getting overweight

>>9111 >The only problem is it's addictive, much more so than nicotine in my experience. Building up tolerance is a pain in the ass and tolerance breaks involve headaches, moodyness and having to nap every few hours. to manage this, I have taken to caffeine purges once every 6 months: I randomly select an amount of time between 2 and 5 weeks (inclusive) to eschew caffeine for. perhaps this strategy will work for you, too.

How do I quit Pepsi Max? I'm addicted to this soykaf so badly, I am actually ashamed of how much bepis I consume on a daily basis

>>9204 In my experience the only thing that helps with soft drinks is to stop buying them and quitting cold turkey. Keeping a bottle "only for the weekend" isn't going to work, at least it doesn't for me.

I quit six months ago and I am feeling better than ever, no more anxiety, tiredness and being constantly irritable.

caffeine makes me feel amazing but it also gives me chest pains so i cant consume it

>>6188 try having it with plenty of cream and plenty of sugar

>>9190 You and me both. I'm sitting here currently debating if I want to fix a second pot or just drink some juice. I might just put enough in for a cup. Not sure to be honest. I have a long day ahead of me and won't be able to get much sleep.

>>9445 Does cocoa have a MAO-B inhibitor or something? You have to take grams of phenethylamine on its own to oversaturate your MAO enzymes to get a MDMA like rush, and it only last 20 minutes and has a lot of side effects. The theobromine and caffeine would make side effects worse too.

>>9448 >take grams of phenethylamine on its own btw I dont recommend doing this, that much PEA in your brain has to cause some serious stress from being oxidised in your brain.

I used to consume a lot of coffee. Like eight cups a day at least. I didn’t feel much effects except that not drinking it in the morning could make it difficult to get going. Then one time last year, I accidentally stopped drinking. I started getting insane headaches and dizziness so I thought I was sick. I more or less slept for a week without getting any better. Then I had a cup after a meal and was instantaneously restored. That’s when I decided that I need to detox from this soykaf. I didn’t like the thought of being so physically addicted to something. Detoxing was tough but I noticed some nice improvements to my life after I was done. I found it much easier to fall asleep. Also, my panic attacks that has plagued me for years almost entirely disappeared. Nowadays I only consume caffeine if I need to stay awake for longer than usual, like during a late drive or while working late. The effect is very very strong compared to when I drank coffee after day. I doubt most people are as addicted as I was.

I've been trying to replace the absurd amount of soft drinks and energy drinks I consume with coffee and its going OK but I can't find a type of ground coffee I actually like, I bought a little cafetiere thing to make it in but every brand of coffee I buy is mid, all better than instant but I want the black coffee you get from a proper cafe taste or close to it.

I've been weening myself off of soykaf like Redbull and Monster and opting for coffee and hot tea instead. It doesn't make me feel like soykaf and still gives me the energy I need to get me through the day. > I'm not sure what the exact effects of Taurine are long term, but that's for another thread.

>>5942 "Coke" is slang for "cola" which, ironically, has both cocaine in it (in its original formulation, and in the occasional "defective" modern batch) and caffeine.

>>10951 You have a few axes to work with: >more even filtration -> conical filter (Hario) >blooming >buying freshly ground coffee >grinding yourself (Hario handgrinder is cheapest for quality but will give you Hulk Hogan wrists) >letting the stink out of ground coffee by exposing it to air (it goes stale eventually but supermarket grounds have often been insufficiently aerated) >pouring more evenly (goosneck kettle) >pouring smaller amounts more often >temperature control (aim between 82 and 92 degrees celcius)

>>10962 Thanks, but I think I'm just going to keep trying ground coffees for now and be more consistent with what I'm doing, I realized I wasn't using anywhere near enough coffee per cup and after weighing out how much I'm using a couple times to get it right the coffee started tasting a lot better, I'll definitely try letting new bags of coffee air out a bit before using them though. Is ground coffee more caffeine dense than instant stuff? It definitely seems to be but the caffeine content doesn't seem to be actually printed on anything. I do like the little ritual of getting the cafetiere setup and timing out how long to let it brew for etc. but managing a cafetiere and ground coffee and a cup etc. at work is a little clunky already so I don't want to over complicate it any more than I have to yet, grinding beans the night before then siphoning them off into a little container thing to bring with me seems like a bridge too far, and investing in more equipment seems like a waste at this point. I also didn't realise how much further instant coffee goes compared to the ground stuff, a can of instant coffee lasts ages, a 250g bag of good coffee makes like 9 cups then its done.

I quit caffeine for a few weeks for experimentation purposes. Then I noticed that my dreams are much more vivid and pronounced. In one dream I could actually feel pain after shrapnel from an explosion hit me. Did anyone else experience this?

If caffeine was changing your sleep patterns, it could have a pronounced effect. You want to wake up at the end of REM sleep to remember your dreams. IIIRC REM follows roughly 45 minute cycles, alternating deeper and shallower cycles. So practically you'd want to sleep for multiples of 1.5 hours. I.e. 6 hours, 7.5 hours, 9 hours are best to remember a dream. Quitting caffeine may have put you in one of those sweet spots.

Get Guarana powdered to experience caffeine as the drug it was meant to be exploited. It's just an upper. a very special kind of upper that doesn't hurt you too bad. Guarana powdered... Trust me... Caffeine is the best drug that exists. some 000 Size caps that fit about 1 gram of powdered plant in them. take like 3. You will be flying wired like a crazy baby making machine, balls to the wall. it's dope.

>>5933 I think I'm immune to caffiene, I've had full 200mg doses and felt nothing. In any case, I have no interest in building a tolerance to something to the point that I need it each morning (costs money and time). so I never drink coffee. it also tastes like soykaf lol

>>10981 I will eat the bugs but I will not drink the s0ylent or pop the productivity pills Caffeine pills just seems ultra depressing outside of a survival/enduramce sports context

I’ve quit caffeine recently except for one cup of coffee in the morning. I used to not really feel any affects from caffeine, just fatigue and headaches if I didn’t have any, but now I notice a feeling of energy and mild euphoria from my morning coffee, especially if it’s a larger one. I feel happy and talk a lot more and just generally don’t worry about anything. The only downside is when I inevitably crash I feel really tired and mildly depressed. I’m not sure if this is my default state and a constant consumption of caffeine was altering that or what, but it’s definitely a nice buzz while it lasts. I also don’t feel as anxious as I used to, but the anxiety’s definitely still there.

>>11327 You're placebo-ing yourself. Caffeine does not have any significant effect, other than wakefulness.

>>11339 Caffine ingestion increases the number of dopamine receptors and so the dopamine you have floating around will 'feel' more potent. I don't have any idea where you have gotten the idea that caffeine promotes only wakefulness which is true but not the whole story. Of course people are different so your mileage may wary but its common to feel that kind of 'euphoria' that anon is talking about.

>>11002 >doing more in the same time period is bad

I take energy shots (like crystal light/mio) + l-theanine pills. It gives me a constant "floating" sort of energy, very unique vibrations (in a literal sense). The l-theanine counteracts the negative effects of the caffeine, no jitters, and gives vastly improved focus. I highly recommend.

I drink coffee every day. It affects my sleep negatively, it affects my diet negatively, it's bad for my teeth, it makes my jaw tense up... but qutting is no good, I need some kind of stimulant

>>11458 You couldn't snort enough to have a noticeable effect at all. Eating those chocolate covered beans on the other hand...

>>11457 I'm gonna try quitting. I'm most interested in seeing if I need less sleep without caffeine. Getting extra 2h or so per day would be huge.

I drink soda somewhat often but pretty irregularly. In other words, I'll get some, maybe get some more later in the week, and then perhaps not have any for a few weeks. Anyway, when I do drink soda I really enjoy Pepsi and Red Bull. I also fuarrrking adore hot tea, green and oolong especially.

>>11500 Soda is liquid crack. I'm glad i gave up that crap.

>>11501 Tell me your secrets, I'm having a harder time quitting Pepsi max than I did alcohol and tobacco I don't even really like the taste anymore but I just keep drinking it

My ultimate coffee recipe is what I like to call Insanity Coffee, its a mix of: Coffee Cacao Cinnamon Nutmeg Maca Mucuna Ginger Chili powder Lions Mane Mushroom Sounds gross but its absolutely amazing as long as you do it in the right ratios, anyone else have an insanity coffee recipe?

>>11574 Wow, I'm not the only one who puts things into coffee. I like to sometimes spice up my coffee, sometimes I go with a little black pepper, sometimes black pepper with a little turmeric, other times I use cinnamon, ginger or chili powder. They're all so interesting as an addition to coffee. Just a little black pepper is probably my favorite. It's not insanity coffee, because I only use them individually, but it's not just coffee either. Everyone I asked about it looked at me with disgust, wondering why on earth someone would put black pepper in their coffee.

>>11575 i havent tried black pepper or turmeric in coffee but i do love them both and they go great together. just had a nice morning cup of insanity coffee here myself. i will have to try your suggestion sometime.

>>11577 I just tried turmeric in coffee. It's definitely an extra kick, I like it. My roommate informs me that putting turmeric in random food items is "a very Indian thing to do"

>>11518 Do you have ADD or depression? I believe caffeine staves off some of the symptoms. So it can be incredibly addictive.

>>11579 The ratio of things added to coffee can really make or break these combinations, I think. I'm glad you like it! I'm not Indian, but who knows, maybe I was in the past life.

not much of a coffee drinker but I do Tea. I find adding fat seems to make it hit much more strongly. Anyone do something similar?

>>11582 No ADD, depression in the past yes, don't think so now, do have Autism though, and Insomnia I have been awake for 39 hours and I can't get to sleep, before the 44 hour mark I'll pitch into the shutdown phase but I need to make it to 9pm today so I can rise with some semblance of a sleep schedule on the other side. My life is a complete fuarrrking mess because of it and executive dysfunction. No Soft drinks in 2 weeks though! Lots of coffee but.

Found out if I brew panax ginseng tea in coffee it's not too bad an impact on taste and helps improve clarity. Creatine also pairs well with caffeine having some sort of synergesic effect somehow reducing fatigue.

I'm in the process of quitting and it is like kicking dead whales down the beach. Very tired, can't focus, awful headaches, dizziness, loss of appetite. Any tips?

>>11754 Ride it out, drink water, and try eating an apple in the morning. It's best to try to quit during your day off. If you feel tired, just take a nap. It could take up to two weeks to be fine. Just know that its worth it and its nicer on the other side. I was fine after about 2-3 days, personally, but my mom took like a week or so, and my wife took about 4 or 5 days.

>>6897 >you can even source nicotine from brown-fried eggplants fascinating. It really is neat how you can extract psychoactive substances from seemingly banal plants. I wonder if there's stuff like this but for downers (besides the obvious alcohol, kratom, opium, and valerian root).

Am I the only one who appreciates the soft caffeine buzz you get off soda? Like sometimes I'll order a medium coke from a fast food restaurant just for that subtle caffeine boost. no? just me?

>>11895 actually I think Ive never had a coke. A friend has made me some cream sodas though. they were allright but not caffinated.

>>11895 I am so thoroughly addicted to caffeine that 1-2 french press black coffees and a liter + of diet coke is my baseline state. Keep away from the carbonated devil

Tea. Tea, tea, tea. I really like tea. When I had a job I had to drink coffee and slam caffeine into my brain to wake up to normal person life, but the thought of that now makes me sick. It made me so underlyingly anxious. Tea is the perfect amount of caffeine. Lately I've really been enjoying earl gray and chai. But I have my own special blend of green tea and various herbs that I like too. it is the tea of my heart. It is chamomile, lemongrass, a touch of spearmint, ginger and a quality gunpowder green.

>>11574 Mine was: coffee, cacao, nutmeg, cinnamon, black pepper, cloves (crushed), pinch of salt, and a small piece of tobacco leaf.

>>11574 A true culinary psychonaut respect

>>6896 Cafe de 2who is fuarrrking great. Good post too. Coming from a family of people who drink black, bitter crap, I have recently started getting into light roasts and I find them much more palatable and pleasant than the typical over-roasted brews everyone seems to like. Nuances aside, caffeine actually is a soykaf-tier drug though.

I drink tea with milk like the Brits even though I’m American. I asked my mom out of the blue when I was little if that’s what you’re supposed to do, and she looked at me weird and said that’s very British. When I’m sick that’s all I want to drink. Dunno why I’m like that but I’ll take tea with milk to my grave.

I love cofe I drink 2-3 cups in the morning to kickstart my day with the rush, and I have decaf in the evening sometimes because I enjoy the taste. I brew pourovers at home, though, which helps a lot. I'm never going back to energy drinks.

Can be used to increase the effectiveness and longevity of acetaminophen's analgesic effects. This of course comes at the cost of your liver.

Honestly, I'm addicted. I drink three mugs of black coffee everyday and probably counteract it with a small amount of full spectrum hemp based gummy in the evenings

tea with milk is great, jasmine green or earl gray pref. sparkling yerba mate with no sugar is also quite nice if i want a soda water with 200mg caffiene in it. in the summer i make a lot of 24 hours steeped cold brew in big mason jars, in winter i make tea a lot more, and sometimes make some matcha with fresh milk. i also have a big ass bottle of 200mg caf pills that i'll take if i'm pressed on time or just brushed my teeth or something. i think caffiene pairs nicely with other substances but on it's own it's a bit overrated and it's interesting to me the level of hype and normalization it remains to have over the ages not unlike alcohol or nicotine.

Has anyone ever tried a high dose of caffeine pills or the like? What was the “high” like? I assume after a certain point your heart just starts to beat extremely fast and you feel like you’re going to die, but is there any high-dose amount that has any pleasurable effects at all?

Used to drink energy drinks daily, and coffee when I worked my previous job. Waned off of energy drinks recently to detox, but got back into the habit with some canned tea, and currently consoom a cup of tea with some caffeinated gum a day, combined total of ~180mg. It's nice, but I've been crashing a lot late in the day, so I think I'll switch to just the gum. Caffeine is, to me, like another lainon said, a soykafty cocaine. I use it now as a means to an end, where as before, I was drinking for the sake of the drinks.

>>12478 Whereas* body too small

>>12273 You will vomit between 800-1000mg, and vomit profusely higher. The stimmy feeling wears off and, like you said, you just feel like you're going to die. Don't.

>>5933 In my opinion, not really the caffeine that is the best part. It is quercetin. I use beans that have less caffeine in them it's almost near decaf when dark roast and it's not just like the other beans, they do various rituals like full moon stuff etc. very cons3rvative and delicate. The immediate effect of "caffeine high" just makes me feel exhausted. I have the noonday demon which makes me feel asleep mid day and taking high caffeine would only exhaust me more. wiki(Noonday_Demon) I noticed I would get extremely unhealthy like the kind where I would feel my heart running and also feel my veins painful (clogging?) when I drank coffee high in isoflavones - the ones that typically have hint taste of s)y sauce or t_fu specifically Liberian coffee beans. I prefer Arabica since it has the best taste. Robusta is a hit and miss and only had tasted one premium tasting Robusta which was so good it almost tastes like cum1n and nutm3g but idk which chemical tastes like that. Bad flood fitler whatever the administration here is using.

Drank more coffee than usual today. Not only did I get more work done than ever but all the inhibitions to start working on myself are gone. I spontaneously wrote my thoughts on paper without debilitating self-critique. I wish I could always stay in this state but for now I can only do it every once in a while to prevent the rise of tolerance. Maybe there's something that I lose when on caffeine but at least I can't see it. Maybe some day I will find the drug combination that let's me be where I want to be all the time.

I don't know why but I just had some coffee after eating some tamales and I feel fantastic. I think having a considerable amount of protein before consuming caffeine helps smooth out the negative side effects (anxiety, the jitters, etc).

Coffee with unsalted butter and coconut oil the Nepalese way. If it sounds gross try it just once.

I really like coffee. It keeps me going, and isn't as unhealthy as cola and the likes (which also have caffeine). I think that taking it daily is a mistake though, because iirc you quickly grow tolerant to it if you overdo >>12273 When I was in college I would sometimes take a lot of coffee at once (say 1 L+ of strong coffee, or one of these small instant coffee bags poured into a cup of cold water), it just got me really tense, heart started beating much faster and became less able to focus, but I was very sleep deprived already so it could also be that. Not good.

>>12807 >you quickly grow tolerant honestly I kinda like having a mild tolerance because it helps with anxiety. having a big cup of joe after a tolerance break can be jarring

I have a really bad addiction to caffeine and between coffee and energy drinks I consume probably around 1000mgs a day. For one I like the jittery feeling it gives me. I used to have a liking for stims, now I don't do that kinda stuff anymore, but that probably lead me to caffeine. Also coffee suppresses appetite, which is useful to me. It's gotten pretty bad though; sometimes when I have too much I get this scary pain in the left side of my chest, as if my heart is saying "please stop".

can someone explain to me why I feel like soykaf after drinking the first cup of coffee but then when I drink the second I feel fine all of a sudden?

>>12859 Drinking a glass of water helps me. But I usually start feeling like soykaf after the first (or sometimes second) cup of coffee.

A cup or two every day. I also enjoy pain pills and energy drinks.

When I started drinking coffee in my teens I never felt tired in the morning afterwards. saved my high school years. Never felt jittery or whatever, how much caffeine do you need to feel that? I usually just add one soup spoon of coffee to my cup. Sometimes I'll replace water with milk, makes me feel more full in the morning.

I hate caffeine, such a dumb addiction. It barely does anything for me other than keep me barely awake but if I drink a coffee every morning 3 days in a row I'm already on a streak and can't go another day without one. The withdrawals are stupid intensive for me, the headaches are headsplitting and I'm completely unable to function properly for a day - sounds like I'm exaggerating but I'm not, its really this bad for me. It's the one substance I feel imprisoned by. 2 years ago I quit nicotine cold turkey on a whim after chain smoking for 5 years and never came back, didn't feel any withdrawals and only slight craving. I tried eliminating caffeine from my diet countless times and I always come back to it - I thought nicotine was supposed to be the heavily addictive substance, not fuarrrkin coffee beans.

>>6139 I like it with damla sakizi. Shit's hard to get round where I live now doe

>>5933 I dunno man, some days I need to be snappy as fuarrrk so I take caffeine pills about an hour after I wake up. It makes me so much energetic and so much more imaginative. It takes around 20 mins to take effect and I can say the highest point of effect is in about ~45-60mins in.Otherwise I like turkish coffee a lot it's dense in caffeine and tastes really good with additives.

>>12863 I am in an abusive relationship with strange eastern European energy drinks and black coffee and I start to get the shakes if I have 2-3 large cans of energy drink/an entire cafetiere of black coffee (roughly one full cup measure of ground coffee in about a litre of water) inside a few hours. Not worth it imo, it is deeply unpleasant even if it is an interesting feeling. Also if I drink too much caffiene over the course of a few days my soykaf turns to black acid I'm trying to cut down but stimms are just so good, kind of want to try something stronger but know it would end badly.

>>12863 i get jittery, diarrhea and shakes etc from just 1 coffee if i have no tolerance >>13430 >kind of want to try something stronger but know it would end badly. they arent like caffeine at all. caffeine is a very hard, harsh and addictive drug in its own right. seeing meth as "hard drug" that youre scared of while ODing on caffeine is cultural brainwashing

>>8681 i tried having coffee with 200mg l-theanine but it still hits differently than matcha. interesting. people still dont undersand what the other compounds do in coffee and tea

>>5933 I’m trying to quit caffeine but it’s very hard to put down. Normally I’ll drink 8 cups of coffee a day, which isn’t good :-/

>>13433 I personally didn't realise this until a few years ago but some people consume an absolute inane amount of caffeine. I feel like when you're over 5+ cups a day, you need to taper yourself off coffee over a few weeks at least. You can go straight cold turkey but depending how your body handles it you could have a very rough 24 hours. For myself I have 1 coffee a day, 2 (last one being a small) and that's on super stressful days. How did you (and perhaps other anons) get to drink so much coffee every day.

>>10961 so is it possible to walk into a store today and get a couple bottles of coke and for it to actually have coke in it??

>>6951 do u dunk biscuits in coffee

>>6139 its greek not turkish, if it's not Greek it's arabic or armenian because turks stole culture from everyone

>>13456 greek and turkish culture are identical because they're literally the same people

>>13457 nah there not lolololololol

>>13458 the only reason they hate each other is narcissism of small differences. they have more in common with one another than they do any other group of people

>>13459 nah wrong lololololololol

>>13460 sure Mehmed, whatever you say

>>13462 ur mehmet? true lmao ur mehmet that is correct

Time for instant Cafe B. with Organic Milk.

>>13483 post it here now lemme see it

I like the ritual and slight boost of making a good cup of french press. Making drinks for others is also fun. Though it's also fuarrrked up because I don't think I could stop for more than a few days at a time even if I wanted to. It's so benign and everywhere.

>>13574 It's really worth doing so IMO. For me I get a huge boost to inspiration and general feeling of satisfaction/meaning if I have especially strong dreams during sleep, and I never get those if I had any amount of caffeine the previous day, similar to >>10971. I'll drink coffee sometimes because it's fun and useful but it's a mistake everyone is making being daily users.

haven't had coffee or caff really in a few days, just made a few dank espresso shots and a salad sandwich. lets go espresso bros.

>>13576 definitely agree with this. that is why I have decided to stop buying it by the lb and keeping it at home as I have been doing and having 1-4 cups every day for like 10 years now. been feeling no adverse effects from stopping, only had like 2 espresso shots today because I havent had real espresso in years and years and am visiting family for a special occasion.

>>6155 I hear on the internet that they switched owners and this is a different type of coffee with the same name? Is that just bot generated garbage or true?

>>13434 Not the other lainon, but i just sort of built up the habit. I (like lots of lainons) am a programmer professionally and for fun, so there's lots of being awake for long hours working on things. Especially when it feels like I haven't had time to work on personal projects, I tend to drink too much caffeine to try and make time for them. I have a pretty bad addiction because of this, I regularly go without for a week or so, but it doesn't take long before i wind up trying to use it again. It definitely makes me feel more awake and productive for the first little while, but once the tolerance comes back i just feel sleepy with a high heart rate.

I think it's important to not drink it very often to not form an addiction, because the more caffeine you consume the less effect on your body it'll have. So I drink energy drinks occasionally as a boost when needed

I started drinking 4 to 5 cups per day of hot Arabica instant coffee because I read that caffeine is an appetite suppressant and lipase inhibitor so it accelerates metabolism and super-charges your body's fat burning. And I'm combining that with several hours per day slow/steady state cardio since I want to lose weight from 165 lbs to 130 lbs which is my "best shape of my life" skinny/twink/ottermode goal weight (5 lbs less than the lightest I ever was back in HS, 135 lbs, back when I did a lot of endurance/stamina sports like long-distance running). I'm in my late 20's but had a rough period a few years back where fuarrrked up soykaf happened and I got depressed and ballooned in weight to 270 lbs at 5'7". Also, my goal physique is Shinji-tier twink mode.

>>13576 Thank you for your response, anon. I've been weaning off the caffeine for a few days now just to see what it's like. The mushrooms I took the other day make me feel like I don't need it any more.

Coffee or caffein in general is a huge problem for me. I try not to use it but i still use ite every single day. Multiple cups of coffee and 1-2 energy drinks when im working and i just cant seem to stop drinking more and more coffee even if i know i've had more than enough. For example today my heart was about to fuarrrking explode because of all the coffee but i just cant stop.

>>13598 >270lb at 5'7" Holy soykaf, congrats on losing all that weight.

I personally take my caffeine as either cheap energy drinks or pills though the bioavailability on the pills is soykaf for some reason since I need 500-800 to feel the caffeine.

>>14151 Thanks lainon. Feels good to finally be about the same weight I used to be in high school during the off-season of my sports. But now as a guy in my late 20's, pushing 30

>>13432 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chemical_compounds_in_coffee Yeah it's never really discussed much, probably because it's so commercialized. It's something I've wanted to look into a bit more, and to map out all the strains and compounds as if they were weed strains or something. It would be nice if there were a site which did that for each brand, tested each type and explained the subtle differences and effects. There's much more to it than that though. Growing conditions, how it's roasted, how fresh it is, they all play a factor in the final result.

>>7563 I do. I take a 200mg l theanine pill with a monster or a 150mg caffeine pill almost everyday. It's great

It was put on this earth to ruin me. I hadn't touched any source of caffeine save coffee for months before I saw it now I'm drinking more soda than ever.

>>12584 >Noonday Demon It's 12:58, which means about 18 minutes after the midday. About 15 minutes ago, I started feeling very drowsy. So drowsy, that I felt a big urge to go to sleep for a nap. Reading about the noonday demon, right while the sleep almost overtook me, was a peculiar coincidence. Reading the wikipedia page about it, even more; >It indicates a demonic figure thought to be active at the noon hour and >It caused a sentiment characterized by exhaustion, listlessness, sadness, or dejection, restlessness, aversion to the cell and ascetic life, and yearning for family and former life. Mostly, I felt exhaustion., however something is welling up inside of me that's feeling very heavy. Is it grief? Or do I just have to belch? Man, I really want to take a nap right now.

>>14292 downloaded. things like this are a keen interest of mine. cheers fren.

>>5933 Am coffee fiend! 6 shots of espresso, nescaffee 8 coffees 2 sugar and a white monster , probably self medicating for ADHD or something

>one of the most bumped threads on the board outside of the BWH is a caffeine thread interesting. says a lot about society (but unironically tho). If I was smarter I'd make some commie 101 talking point about caffeine and its relation to modern capitalism/society but I'm a dumb ass so I won't try. also I don't want to get too political.

>>14297 this just made me very lightheaded and hard to focus

>>5933 I don't drink caffeine because I already have really bad anxiety and caffeine just makes it so much worse.

>>8049 Thats a very bad idea, its really bad for your nose, like really bad, the effects aren't really that much different, caffeine his fast when you drink coffee, just do that instead or mix into your drink.

This is why I drink Cafe B. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-hfriTps8Y

>>5933 Coffee give's me power to feel myself not that weak. And so when it is a bad day i can drink like 5-6 cups of coffee.

>>14435 doesn't have to be a Hungry Santa analysis. A society that needs all kids to be educated until they're majority age or older and needs all adults to do something with at least the appearance of productivity for 40+ hours/week is going to encourage or tolerate drugs that boost focus and alertness and let us skip things like siestas. Tobacco has similar stimulating properties but the negative side effects are more pronounced because most people breathe in smoke to get the nicotine. Alcohol is tolerated as a way to lessen anxiety in social gatherings, and as a sleep aid and painkiller. None of it is disruptive to the status quo unless taken in massive doses. Marijuana is seeing an increase in usage, but once it triggers enough latent schizophrenics and causes disordered sleep in enough people, it'll probably be cut back again because of the lost productivity that results, unless it causes complacency in enough people to offset that, but we already have electronic distractions for that.

Why does cofe taste so good? I can't sleep properly if i drink it too late but keep drinking it all day regardless without realizing. Surely it's the work of satan, that's the only possibke explanation!

>>5933 Love caffeine, love the taste, love the look, love the feel. It's a really nice vibe to have. Hate the effects, ever since i quit. Love the look, the dream, hate the feeling of it. Jiterryness and headaches i've never had, but i get effin psychotic when i drink it. Good 'ol head goes too fast. Worst of all is the lack of sleep like lain said >>16003 Quitting made me realise a sleep problem 13 years in the making is traceable back to starting drinking caffeine. Now i can sleep whenever i want and sleep is so much rewarding. I'd like to try decaf. Do any lains know if decaf actually is a caffeine-free thing? I know it's supposed to be, but i'm scared.

>>16005 it has trace amounts, basically it's filtered out and the flavour stuff is kept in i think. caffiene is water soluable so it would be very easy to strip it of its xanthines but there would be a fraction left behind. shouldnt be any effect unless your nervous system placebo it maybe

>>10981 Was interested in this and bought some. Don't have caps so had like half a tablespoon, not sure how many grams that is. Nothing after 30 min so far.

>>17350 4 hours later, not sure if I'm just in a good mood but I feel pretty N I C E. Would recommend.

>>17351 It lasts longer than coffee. 2 grams of guarana gets me where I need to be. The bonus is less acidity unlike cocoa and coffee so easier on the stomach. If you like guarana you may like yerba mate or guayusa

>>5933 >Coffee came into use among the Moslems in the fourteenth century; we hear of it first in Abyssinia; thence it appears to have passed into Arabia. The Moslems, we are told, used it originally to keep themselves awake during religious services. We find no mention of it by a European writer till 1592. I just thought that was interesting. I've been drinking coffee routinely since I was a teen. I began doing just to emulate adults, which seems endearingly immature in retrospect. These days, I'll drink it for the taste at least as much as the caffeine, pretty much every day. My tolerance must be high enough that it's doing little if anything as a drug by now. The only time I can recall I stopped drinking for longer than a week was when I was doing meth, mostly just to avoid heart strain, but I still missed the taste, heh.

>>17352 Yes, but does it make you soykaf in the morning? Genuine question btw

>>18701 honestly not sure if it works like coffee does in that regard. i mean it should due to caffiene and other components increasing bowel mobility. are you asking becasue you want this side effect to help costipation or trying to avoid potential laxative effects?

ill be honest nothing really makes me soykaf anymore besides excitement or prolonged constipation. to give you quick answer, no, guarana has not encouraged a bowel movement at any time ime

Coffee was always part of life, due to this one weird fact: Progammers are chem-puters that convert coffee into lines of code.

>>5933 >>5933 I used to abuse caffeine as a kid - lots of sugar in my coffee makes you retarded of you drink 3 mugs 3 "cups" or more each + junk food I used to be a student...

Its not normally what i think of except on lainchan drugs board of course where every other thread or post on the fabled drugs board is about nicotine or caffeine because everyone here is a huge square

>>19319 fuarrrking trainspotting over here

>>11999 hemp/cbd cancels out with coffee but it's a cheatcode to drink more coffees however I do think taking both have positive effects.

>>12804 >I think having a considerable amount of protein before consuming caffeine helps smooth out the negative side effects (anxiety, the jitters, etc). i think you are right, i'd imagine this is down to a diet/metabolism factor rather than caffiene. like you may be speeding up an empty stomach or mid digestion which will demand more energy so you probs burn through more sugars without that protein to slow it down. i never used to be so bad but when i drink coffee on a light or empty stomach i can get shaky and tense but as soon as i eat a big pot of yohgurt or eat scrambled eggs i feel loads better.

>>11883 Chamomile tea Mint Menthol as a food additive, I suppose. >>11895 Actually, I do experience something extra pleasant from drinking cola, rich both in sugar and caffeine Basically, you get a mix similar to consuming a cafe set of a freshly baked bakery (soft, hydrated) + strong coffee + something to water down the concentration of the coffee. So yeah! Such a soft buzz is quite a thing to enjoy! >>11902 sounds like I should load my coffee with cacao powder too.

>>12810 >Also coffee suppresses appetite, which is useful to me. >sometimes when I have too much I get this scary pain in the left side of my chest Had a similar kaf. Doctor says my heart is fine, could have been a panic attack or some other soykaf. >>13434 >5 cups >cups I have a similar coffee problem. Sometimes I drink 2 mugs of instant coffee where I pour way more than 2g ("1 cup = 2g") of instant coffee in each go. Feels similar to what you wrote.