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Serotonin drugs

Roy Batty · 2020-04-29 17:41
Hey, do you have any advice on which drug I should take to have an "instant" serotonin shot ? Antidepressant aren't doing anything at all so I would like to try something that work instantly when I feel bad and keep taking antidepressant for the long time effect. Thanks
Sipho Nkosi · 2020-04-29 18:36
taking a seratonigenic drug at the same time as an SSRI is likely to disrupt the action of the SSRI and possibly modify the action of the drug. Very bad idea, you're courting drug-induced seratonin syndrome.
Tequila · 2020-04-29 18:48
>>5766 Thanks for the advice, do you have any idea of what I could do ?
Roger Pollack · 2020-04-29 18:56
>>5767 it strongly depends on the exact antidepressant you're on. Probably the best course of action is to switch antidepressant. Most drugs don't work for most people.
H.R. Giger · 2020-04-29 19:01
>>5768 ok thanks in fact, the antidepressant i'm taking (zoloft) were working until some event where they stopped helping me... i know they have long term effect but the current pain is barely bearable
Judge Fang · 2020-04-29 19:16
According to the info I can find, sertraline(aka zoloft) + weed, LSD, and psilocybin are fairly safe combinations, the psychedelic may have a 'muted' effect depending on your dosage of sertraline. Do not take MDMA, cocaine, tramadol, or a related substance.
Marly Krushkhova · 2020-04-29 20:02
>>5770 Oh ok thanks, do you have any links about that ?
Six · 2020-05-17 09:05
>>5765 Ok, listen to me please, because most people including doctors seem to know fuarrrk all about the brain and psych meds. SSRI's, are technically an instant shot of serotonin to the brain. Yes, you're technically not increasing the amount of serotonin in your brain, but you're giving your brain the tool to use what it does have more efficiently. Nothing that you can take orally will give you an instant serotonin boost like an SSRI does (or I mean at least solely serotonin, there are of course drugs that raise serotonin but you don't want to use MDMA as an antidepressant). Serotonin does not cross the blood brain barrier, so direct ingestion of serotonin somehow, does not work. This is why you circumvent the process with drugs, or you eat things that are precursors to serotonin for your body to produce later. Here is where people are fuarrrked up, I'm going to put it in all caps for emphasis, and anybody who says I'm wrong is an idiot. >THE EFFECT SSRI's HAVE ON SEROTONIN REUPTAKE IS IMMEDIATE ONCE DIGESTED The reason doctors tell their patients that it take a long time to start working in the brain is because many people's issue doesn't respond to the serotonin reuptake; because of this they've come up with all sorts of theoretical soykaf about how an increase in serotonin will theoretically increase BDNF after a while and hopefully treat symptoms. This is my optimistic assessment of their reasoning because I like to believe that they're not just saying this to make you feel like you need it when you don't and feel stuck purchasing it from them. This means that either their depression/anxiety is not caused or worsened by serotonin deficiency, or they don't have major depressive disorder/actual anxiety disorders to treat to begin with, but their life circumstances are making them feel like soykaf and they don't realize it. So with that said, it really can be something that is personal to you and your physiology. What changes did you experience with SSRI's? What exactly are your symptoms you want to treat and how did they come about? How long have they been there? Lastly, what SSRI and what dose. I feel the need to bring these points up whenever people bring up SSRI's because everyone is severely misinformed about them; doctors and even psychiatrists sometimes don't know what the fuarrrk they're talking about.
HELIOS · 2020-05-17 12:00
>>5880 >This means that either their depression/anxiety is not caused or worsened by serotonin deficiency, or they don't have major depressive disorder/actual anxiety disorders to treat to begin with, but their life circumstances are making them feel like soykaf and they don't realize it. I stopped taking SSRIs because I finally decided that I'm not the problem. Just because depression has physical repercussions on the brain it doesn't mean it has physical causes. I hate the reduction of human thought to just chemicals. You can't find the solution to unhappiness in a pill. Of course the shrinks say that you have to do CBT and other bullcrap to make it work, but all I've experienced was >Ok now you are on drugs, did my weak argument convince you to be happier? >No. >Ok here's more drugs, come back next week. And if the drugs don't work they say >Ok you're just defective, you have to be hospitalized so we can reprogram you completely.
Mitnick · 2020-05-17 14:52
>>5881 I agree with you lain, that's what I meant when I mentioned that some people's depression isn't based on neurochemistry (primarily, at least). The idea that a pill would cure anything like that is a little crazy, it just treats the symptoms for some people. Our medical infrastructure has no idea how to handle mental health and it's sad.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2020-05-17 15:05
>>5882 You act as if they intent to deal with it
Hagbard Celine · 2020-05-17 17:42
>>5882 Exactly. I think that in some circumstances depression is a normal and "healthy" reaction.
Nobody special · 2020-06-02 13:34
John Titor · 2020-06-02 14:04
>>5883 implying anything other than CBT and giving people basically placebo drugs can be done in a prohibitionist society
Pulse · 2020-06-02 23:19
>>5882 >Our medical infrastructure has no idea how to handle mental health and it's sad. It's because our society is profoundly mentally unhealthy and the medical infrastructure is an aspect of it.
Just another Random Lainon · 2020-06-04 10:26
>>5960 Our medical community has little idea of how to handle health in general. But I don't think it's sad. Is to be expected. The human body is one of the most complex things in existence, our health is influenced by our environment, which is orders of magnitude more complex than a single body. How are we to expect people to understand what is going on?