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Im going to stop smoking weed, masturbating and drinking alcohol during at least 100 days. How to cope with this hell of abstinence? Thanks for coming to my blog

lol, you're going to fail. thanks for reading my comment on your blog.

>>5598 thanks for coming, and of course, for the optimism you bring to this blog

Do you mean all together nonstop?

You will have to shift your energy to some other activity. The lockdown might help you or make it worse. If you have the possibility you might try gardening or hiking, personally i would do something to distance myself from the usual things that keep me locked in these patterns.

If your life is soykaf you most likely won't be able to quit.

>>5597 Quitting masturbating is quitting a domaine addiction in your brain. That's a lot harder than quitting weed or alcohol Godspeed lainon

>>5602 my life is soykaf and i fuarrrking failed so many times already

You might be really highly strung by month three, I was. Try to lay off coffee too, can make you crazy wiuthout the other stuff to take the edge off.

idiotic nofab bullshit. weed is good for you. fuarrrk alcohol.

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>>5597 do something productive like gardening or cooking

>set nearly impossible idiotic goals that sound cool and symbolic like "100 Blissful Days of the Grand Cleansing" >obviously fail because your mind is metaphorically a driver of a truck that plows through the field of life at 90 mph and can be steered only by you farting sideways, 1 arcsecond of steering per fart >fail deeper, because you've failed and it doesn't matter anymore if you fail more than you have already failed, because everything is either black or white in your worldview >get more used to failing and not keeping your words to yourself, setting yourself for more failures >goto 1 Start from 1 damn day at week, you maximalist dummy. You have to get used to abstinence same way you got used to using.

Just reporting... I'm at day 1 without relapse. My head started bleeding like crazy and i don't even know why

>>5610 Solid analysis and advice. Better yet, pick ONE thing to tackle and don't overwhelm yourself. You're setting yourself up for failure.

>>5603 >domanime is more addictive than serotonin/GABA inhibition/opiate receptors not true necessarily at all everybody has their vice that will kill them but alcohol is much more dangerous and typically life ruiningly addictive compared to masturbation. Even for dopamine based addictions obesity and food addiction kills more.

alright, im back, reporting 48 hours without any relapse... to be honest i feel like soykaf and i haven't been able sleep more than 4 hours in a row... and i feel like my head is going to explode at any moment... but im going to keep pushing no matter what, even if the withdrawal kills me

>>5624 for me weed was way harder to quit then heroin, i tried for .. i think 5 years ?.. its kind of fuzzy im sorry.. anyways, what i wanted to share with you was that for me the most important takeaway was that even if i relapsed, i learned not to blame myself for it, rather tried to learn what exactly caused my failure and to be more aware of similar things in my next attempt. im clean now for almost 8 years. you can do it!

I salute you for wanting to leave porn during these times. I gave up for the time being, I'm finding some good stuff.

I actually managed to quit porn. I had to do some research on the effects of masturbation and porn so I couldn't cheat on the basis of uncertainty. If I get cravings I basically remind myself of the crappy feeling of disgust and worthlessness I got after the deed.

I use porn a lot less than I used to but I still masturbate frequently. I have a few fantasies that are much better than any video. I have found that as long as I jerk off less than twice a day, it still feels great and if I don't jerk off for a few days I feel horny and agitated. I also quit weed for a while but started again. OP: you won't get anywhere by quitting everything cold turkey. >>5610 said it right. Taper off, quit for one day, then two, then three, etc... and forgive yourself for failing. Because you will fail a few times. After a few months you will find that your craving is controllable.

>>5597 OP, a good piece of advice for you. Write down while still on drugs on a notepad the reason you want to quit. Try to capture the feelings you have at the moment and a few(lot of) logical arguments why you will quit said activities. After quitting your state of mind will change, you will either feel an overwhelming urge to revert back or you won't feel nothing at all. When you find yourself in that situation open the things you wrote down. It will help you see your goal and be rational. Good luck

>>5604 just work the twelve steps. Start with 15 days. If you don't make it then try again. If you do push for thirty days. Start small. Try quitting porn before quitting masturbation. Masturbation doesn't fuarrrk your mind it's the porn. Take my advice, I'm in rehab as of now. Good luck anon.

Currently tapering from opioids (was on a massively high dose three weeks ago) and I can't stop getting hard 24/7. Any tips?

>>5597 I don't drink alcohol. So that one is easy for me. The other two, now that's a challenge. Especially fapping. I barely can make it a few days. Ironically I'm high and about to pull up some hentai here soon once I light my bong back up.

im back with an update, this is day 8 without relapse, the changes that i've seen are: >i've had dreams that i can remember almost daily >less cough

>>5687 Keep going and keep us updated. Any addiction or feeling like relapsing?

I get the other destructive soykaf but why would you want to stop smoking dank? Are you psychotic?

>>5689 cuz smoking weed is an addiction

op here, reporting at day 14, the noticeable changes i've been feeling: >lately i've been feeling too horny, and having sexual dreams (without nocturnal emissions, somehow those dreams make me wake up instantly) >and also i've had a little more luck than normal (or maybe i'm more skilled? i dunno which one)

no alcohol, no drugs, masturbation once few day, feels pretty bad still

>I was a regular cannabis smoker. I stopped and it was like a renaissance. >I was in opiates, stabilized with methadone. I stopped and it was ubermenshing. I still fap sometimes but it's more an hygienic routine than a need. Anyway if you stop fapping you will release semen when you'll sleep, nice sensation with weird wet-dreams). I still smoke tobacco but as a pipe smoker it's more controlled. I can spend time without smoking. You will be a new man after quitting at least weed. I still use drugs but it's a "one time a year or more" so it's very appreciable. It's all about the power of the will. Godspeed lainons.

>>5708 Best of luck.

>>5721 Question from a non-smoker: Is pipe smoking as bad as regular cigarrettes or vaping? I've heard that they don't have as many additives that they do.

>>5731 That depends on what kinds of filters and pipes. I smoked in lots of ways and it depends quite a lot on on what kind of pipe and or filter and what and the way you smoke it.

>>5731 well smoking pipes has lower chance of lung cancer than cigarettes... however it also significantly increases chances of mouth and throat cancer

>>5721 >if you stop fapping you will release semen when you'll sleep source? because people with low libido don't masturbate that often (or at all) and don't necessarily have wet dreams for example. wet dreams occur only occasionally in adult life... it's mostly something that happens during puberty. if this is just "well you gotta get rid of your sperm" (which is not entirely true), well that's what sex was invented for, no?

>>5734 As a god forsaken degenerate, I can confirm that (at least in my experience) stopping fapping doesn't make you have more wet dreams, but it does make your urges a lot worse if you aren't doing anything.

op here, at day 19, i've had a lot of dreams compared to what i used to have when i was a dopamine-addicted degenerate, many of them were kinda sexual (without any wet dream yet), most recently dream was me hugging my ex (she broke up with me like a year ago because she wanted an open relationship and i didn't agree about it)

>>5734 >>5736 That was something happenning to me. Maybe more when I was younger. I think opiates could have influenced to. And it was something factual for me. But after a quick search it looks like it's not correlated with fapstopping.

>>5734 >if you stop fapping you will release semen when you'll sleep >source? Not him, but my penis is the source.

>>5733 Vaping>cigarette>pipe. And I smoke my pipes without filters. No less chances of lung cancer than cigarette as long as you inhale the smoke (some pipe smokers don't). But yes more chances of mouth cancer because smoking pipe is all about "playing" with the smoke.

>>5740 the source of the sauce.

>>5741 why so much people are dying because of vaping? is it because they already have other health problems?

op here, i failed at day 20... all my body hurts, i feel like i've been teleported to hell

>>5744 Try quitting only one thing for now. Alcohol would be a good bet, because it is the most destructive out of these three.

>>5744 what did you relapse on?

>>5744 20 days is a good start op dont beat yourself up try again maybe 1 or 2 at a time.

>>5744 20 days is more than I've ever done. Remember not to beat yourself up too much, try to get another one day clean. You can do it OP

>>5744 This soykaf is fascinating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSB#Role_in_addiction what dopamine does to your brain It takes 2 months for Delta FOS B to go away.

>>5746 masturbation, i ejaculated after rubbing with a porn video that triggered some memories that i had with my gf >>5749 >>5748 thanks for your comments >>5750 does that mean that if i don't relapse in two months it gets more easy to cope with the abstinence?

>>5751 try to wear gloves as much as you can so that think twice before you relapse

but why though, being sober sux

(Disclaimer: these are the words of someone who has never had much success with abstinence but has also never employed "scorched earth tactics") Have you considered using a "swear jar" approach, where there is a tangible penalty associated with relapsing? The idea is not to torture yourself but to add a cost to your mental model of the situation, theoretically making it harder to make a "bad" choice. Consider reading Allen Carr's The Easy Way to Stop Smoking and generalize his points from tobacco to other compulsive behaviors, but don't treat his ideas as dogma. Pay special attention to his "enjoy your life" dictate. You have to make up for that dopamine loss somehow. I don't know exactly what your feelings are regarding these pictures you keep posting, but consider laying off the anime girls. Remember that anime is designed as sexual superstimulus. Don't watch it. Block images on sites that might display it (like chans). Similar principle for many video games Block porn sites on every browser you use. If there's no way to block sites on that browser, delete it and get a new browser. If even that proves insufficient, you may need to switch to a "whitelist" rather than "blacklist" approach to internet browsing or else cut out recreational internet use. Maybe create a long, complex password for your blocking extension, don't memorize it, and contrive some system such that you won't be able to access the copy for the intended period (unless your extension already has a time lock feature, then just do that). If you have porn saved, delete it. Don't leave it in the recycle bin. Delete it. Even if you masturbate, ditching porn should help in the long run. If your sexuality is mostly visual, maybe read books for fun for a while, unless you don't find books fun, in which case you'll need something you do enjoy. If you do relapse, don't let yourself binge or go harder than usual. Sleep until you aren't tired. Reduce stress to the greatest feasible degree. Eat well. You need to keep your satisfaction and rational faculties at their highest possible levels. Lastly and perhaps most importantly, don't fall for the trap of over-analyzing and over-systematizing while simultaneously under-implementing. Maybe one source says quit cold turkey while another says taper off, which leaves you confused. Every second you spend vacillating between the two is a second you spend not testing the merit of either. Pick a program quickly. Stick with it until it works or is proven ineffective in your case. Motivation to change only comes around so often, so make the most of it while you have it. If you fail, start again immediately. Cry if you want to, but cut that "I failed so I'm a failure so I'll never succeed and I may as well give up so I'm going to give up" spiral off as soon as it starts. It's bullshit, and I don't mean that in some kind of "you're great and I like you" way. I don't know you. All I know is that this particular thought spiral is bullshit. It's unsubstantiated and has no basis in reality. Here's wishing you good luck and better practice, Lain (Disclaimer: these are the words of someone who has never had much success with abstinence but has also never employed "scorched earth tactics")

>>5751 That is like kicking dead whales down the beach, when i jerk it i usually revert to my tobacco addiction too. Sometimes i just get too horny and then i cant hold it. Then i feel ashamed of myself and need to punish myself. >>5762 Yeah but so does being a druggy sometimes.

>>5597 >smoking weed That's good, I generally only smoked spice lately, all because of quarantine.

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>>5657 >twelve steps >trading a drug addiction for a literal cult's brainwashing technique >>5597 Next time simply go one week. Wew.

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>>5783 I can't help but notice that you aren't really responding to the recommendation posts, OP.

>>5779 seems like it could work if the steps actually made any goddamn sense

>>5784 its an imageboard, things don't have to be taken seriously

good luck OP. ive been trying to get rid of porn for a few years now,ended up smoking weed too,and recently ive realised some underlying problems i had to face to have the strengh to beat addiction,such as self-sabotage,black-and-white thinking and negative bias. honestly after all ive been tru i understood this isnt simply a self improvement struggle, but rather a struggle from my own personality to develop,cuz when i saw the truth about porn i simply couldnt give in to it again.

>How to cope with this hell of abstinence? It's called reality and it's the reason we use drugs in the first place. This marathon sounds more like some trophy you're trying to earn than a positive lifestyle choice anyway... sure there's ill effects to all drugs but there's no sensible reason to give up masturbating.

Sleep, jerk off, and run a lot

>>5743 My friends and I are avid psychonauts and we tend to do our research diligently, but I dont know this info first hand, I would believe it, but I will also advise you to do your own research if really interested. My friend is a heavy smoker, and was vaping as route to quitting, I confronted him about the deaths things, and he said: They were mixing their own cannabis infused vaping liquid (I dont know if there is a specific word for it). They were using an oil based formula, and the oil would react weirdly and crystallize on the their lungs. So just using over the counter products should not lead to a fast and painful death. Something along those lines. Again, to be taken with a grain of salt,

>>5597 >How to cope with this hell of abstinence? See pain as your companion instead of your enemy: pain tells you where you need healing.

>>5921 >there's no sensible reason to give up masturbating recently I had to give up masturbation because my technique was causing delayed ejaculation and RSI in my elbow :(

>>5947 i know a guy who makes marijuana concentrates. He often complains that commercial weed growers over-use neem oil and other 'organic' pesticides, which are toxic when smoked, and he has had to throw away batches before for this reason. Don't know if I believe him but also, I've dabbed his stuff for months at a time and it's some good good soykaf.

try doing one then the other if you can't do it. Stopping masterbation will increase your testosterone making you much more agro and have a shorter fuse. You'll feel more determined and energetic too. For a week/2/3 after coming off weed you'll feel bad and annoyed and not like doing much. Push through that.. I would just watch netflix and jerk off and stuff to get through the weed bit. When you stop you'll have much more energy and focus and do the stuff you like doing not just easy lazy stuff. The best replacement for masterbation is exercise, you should channel your new found sexual aggression into that

OP here, i managed to stop drinking and masturbating, and i've been 72 days clean in those two. But i still smoke weed dailly, and is so hard to stop considering that i always have (soykafty) weed avaliable for free