That 2C-B Thread

Sup Lains, been a long while since I checked on this chan. Really loving what you've done with the place. Today, I'd like to talk about my new absolute favourite substance favourie substance and maybe start a discussion of you're so inclined. 2C-B was first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin using the molecular structure of Mescaline as his basis. He set out to create a compound that could take the place of (M)D(M)A, since while he always quite enjoyed it there was something he felt just wasn't quite what it needed to be. Today, I'm glad to report that he was more than successful. Unlike MDMA, 2C-B has next to no tolerance except for edge cases where it is taken several days in a row for over two weeks, has an extremely mild and pleasant comedown and no side effects safe a mild headache that goes away with proper hydration. Two other aspects that set it apart: Enjoyment o food and sexual pleasure are greatly enhanced on it. Indeed it used to be sold in 10 mg doses as an aphrodisiac, and without going into too much detail I can confirm that the effect is quite strong and that unlike MDMA/Speed acting on the desire is both possible and highly enjoyable rather than frustrating. Where it IS like MDMA is a strong enhancement of colours, an insistent yet by no means "tweaky" stimulation and a staggering improvement of music appreciation that I would rate even more potent than that of MDMA & Psilocybin combined. A final aspect I'd like to mention is cost. One strong dose of powder clocks in at a mere 1,60 Dollars, making it one of the most affordable substances I've had the pleasure of trying. How have your experiences been, and where did you first try it?

2C-B also offers amazing hallucinations.

never tried it yet. Very rare substance in my neck of the woods

My favorite psychedelic. Very mild, just the right amount of visual, just the right body load, not overwhelming, never underwhelming, slow to start, slow to come down. Never had bad trips on it. I took 15/25 mg, it was enough. Tried nasal once, it was too painful and too fast, don't do it, just eat it. I recommend it to curious beginners, though have no idea where to get it today.

>>5568 Looking to acquire some in the near future, only recently found a test kit for it. What dose would you say is equivalent to 4-5g of shrooms?

I've recently got my hands on some after not doing any psychedelics for 2 years, I've never done it before. So far i've had 2 amazing trips, Compared to LSD it's much softer and gentler feeling but not in the sense that it's weaker, With stronger body high and very colorful visuals. I can't tell if it's 2c-b or just me but it feels a lot more clear headed than i remember LSD being, Most of the conclusions i made while tripping still make sense on the next day. The only "downside" 2c-b has is that it does feel pretty stimulating, Nothing overwhelming but i guess some might not like that. I did both trips alone in my apartment but i think it could be great in a social setting if you can handle tripping around other people..

>>5575 I would probably use 2C-B for a social trip over LSD. LSD is too... weird to be around people on. Much prefer to be in nature.

I'm interested to try, a friend of mine is buying some soon. I really like LSD but I don't really care for MDMA so I want to see what 2CB is like.

>>5576 >>5575 > I would probably use 2C-B for a social trip over LSD. LSD is too... weird to be around people on. Much prefer to be in nature. 2C-B is probably hands-down the most social psychedelic in existence. Only comparable would be a hippy flip (shrooms + Molly) and Mescaline, but Mescaline is stupid pricy and a hippy flip can easily get distractingly sexual. 2C-B on the other hand is extremely entactogenic, cheap as hell and easy to control while still providing all the psychedelic features one would look for. >>5574 5grams? That's 48mg with a 50:50 CBD:THC strain smoked exactly 20 minutes after ingestion and two bumps of ketamine railed at the 50 minute mark. >So far i've had 2 amazing trips, Compared to LSD it's much softer and gentler feeling Definitely. Acid is great, but just like shrooms it demands a lot you're not necessarily willing to give at that point. 2C-B shows you cool stuff and gives you a gentle yet powerful sense of euphoria, but it doesn't whack you over the head the way acid or Tryptamines do. >>5577 What do you dislike about MDMA, if you don't mind me asking?

one of my favorite psychedelics, it's mild and i never had a bad trip it's also >>5576 a more group friendly tripbtho i find acid or shrooms (or booth together) to be way "sharper" and "higher resolution" in their visual and other sensory aspects it's not to underestimate tho and definitly one of favorite drugs

>>5575 How does it compare to shrooms?

I like it and it is a kind of cyberpunk drug IMO, it makes things feel like a virtual reality simulation. However it gives me killer headaches the day after, no idea why.

>>5652 Agree on both counts. Although my association with it being a cyb drug comes from it being the first drug I ever bought on a darknet market. In college I'd get it shipped in to my student housing and sell it. Made me feel like a character in a Gibson novel. I haven't touched it since I lost track of which markets are reliable though, it's hard to find on the street. My problem with 2CB is it has that MDMA-like neurotoxin feeling to it. I wouldn't want to make it into a habit but it isn't particularly addictive so that isn't a problem.

>>5641 Not him but in my experience shrooms make me feel really stoned and lethargic. Like 6 hour couch lock type thing. 2CB is a phenethylomine like MDMA, although I think it feels closer to MDA. It's definitely more of a proper psychedelic than either but it does have that speedyness that other psychedelics, particularly shrooms, don't. If you're an introverted type that can't take a hit of acid and go to a party you'd probably love it. It's the only psyche-adjacent drug I'd want to do in a very social setting.

I absolutely fuarrrking love 2cb. I also tried it as an alternative to mdma, and while I will say that the mdma euphoria beats the 2cb euphoria into the ground, 2cb wins just because you don't have to wait months to take it again safely and you don't look like a tweaker like you do when rolling. And no potential for the mdma hangover (granted that can be well avoided with dosing, supplements and waiting between rolls). Plus with 2cb you get some cool visuals that mdma doesn't offer (unless you take a heroic dose of mdma). Really enjoy taking it before going to shows or rave-like environments due to how clear-headed of a trip it is. last time I did it, I nexus flipped - mdma + 2cb. Took 20mg of 2cb about an hour after the mdma peak, and it was incredible. Very synergistic together, and the 2cb high made the mdma come down non-existent. Highly, highly recommend.

>>5641 >How does it compare to shrooms? Not him either, but it's significantly, and I mean SIGNIFICANTLY easier to handle than shrooms or any other Tryptamine for that matter. It's less "deep" than tryptamines but significantly deeper than a common dose of acid while simultaneously far easier to control. >>5652 >>5652 Ketamine and 2C-B are IMHO *the* cyberdrugs without compare, especially when Ketamine is done just off the peak of 2C-B. >>5660 >I haven't touched it since I lost track of which markets are reliable though, it's hard to find on the street. White House Market and Empire Market are both legit. Only use the links from dark.fail though as they're the only ones guaranteed to be clean. I'd also heavily advise using Monero over Bitcoin. Most remotely worthwhile vendors support it, and in fact WHM is Monero-exclusive due to the significantly better privacy. >>5665 MDMA into Phenylethamine or Tryptamine is an absolutely amazing way to end an evening. Completely eliminates not only the comedown but the hangover as well. 2C-B is the king of this, but mescaline and a low (2 gram tops, and 1,5 to 1 is better) dose of shrooms works too.

anyone know any DNMs and vendors that have good stock? rennie@tutamail.com

>>5666 >White House Market and Empire Market are both legit Thanks Lain. Any significant change in how this stuff is done? I haven't used dnms since 2014 or so. The procedure is still: get crypto with cash -> PCP encryped everything over tor with a tails live USB or whatever -> read forum posts to figure out which vendors are good -> buy? Is it still relatively safe to have soykaf shipped to your house directly or would I need to somehow get a drop point (for personal quantities, I'm not trying to sell again)?

>>5670 >PCP *PGP haha

>>5670 yeah pretty much. For personal quantities of non-heroin its fine to get it shipped to your house.

>>5673 >For personal quantities of non-heroin And for actual heroin lol

>>5670 Correct on all counts, yeah. >>5673 >>5674 Only thing you should never never never ever ever EVER ship through the mail is weed unless it's hash or wax. Not sure which people are desperate and stupid enough to order damn flower or edibles but they suck and should feel bad about themselves and the fact they're helping feed government statistics with phony successes.

>>5671 This is my favorite Freudian slip in a while :)

>>5660 >My problem with 2CB is it has that MDMA-like neurotoxin feeling to it. I wouldn't want to make it into a habit but it isn't particularly addictive so that isn't a problem. Is it just a feeling or is it really dangerous? Can you cite a source for this?

>>5690 2C-B is a receptor agonist rather than a releasing agent. The neurotoxicity comes from metabolites essentially turning into hydrogen peroxide at the serotonin neuronal gap IIRC. Which isn't the case with 2C-B.

>>5690 >is it really dangerous phenethylamines in general (MDMA, MDA, 2C-whatever) aren't great for you from my understanding. there's a neuro-degradation effect and also serotonin sickness to worry about. any drug that gives you a hangover is toxic to some extent. >Can you cite a source for this? I didn't look that hard, but this was first page search results for "phenethylamine neurotoxic": https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11419-020-00527-w paywall unfortunately for the whole paper, but you can read the abstract and results. how does this compare to e.g. heavy drinking? i have no idea. not necessarily trying to put people off these drugs; they're definitely worse for you than most psyches, but I'm mostly just saying I don't like the feeling I get from taking a lot of them.

>>5694 Interesting. Hopefully there will be more research.

can i do 2C-B if i am taking SSRI?

>>5568 Honestly this thread has gotten me super interested as a newcomer. Never done anything before, so this seems perfect to start with. Also, are there any good sellers on clearnet? I see 2C-B nitrostyrene on the Indole Shop, but I dunno if its any good.

Has anyone tried injecting MDMA or 2cb?

>>5872 yes mdma, its fuarrrking weird. i got this weird clinical feeling fuarrrked up state from quite a little dose, had the need to redose and the feeling that i would die at the same time, soykaf went over quite quick tho, but when i redosed it still felt like getting close to a fkin od. idk, some of the weirdest IV ever, take care, keep common sense with you.

>>5871 Not terrible. poke

>>5871 >Honestly this thread has gotten me super interested as a newcomer. Never done anything before, so this seems perfect to start with. Um, you're new to drugs? Maybe smoke a joint and try shrooms first. 2C-B might be a little bit too intense for a newbie. >Also, are there any good sellers on clearnet? 2C-B is a controlled substance in most parts of the developed world. If it's not controlled where you live, great! Still don't buy from clearnet vendors. See >>>749. >I see 2C-B nitrostyrene on the Indole Shop, but I dunno if its any good. 2C-B nitrostyrene is NOT the same as 2C-B! 2C-B nitrostyrene is a precursor to 2C-H, which is brominated to produce 2C-B. In some parts of the world, you could face very serious jail time ordering this precursor! Beware!

>>6101 I messed up, the thread I tried to link to is >>749, the DNM thread.

>>6101 >Maybe smoke a joint and try shrooms first. 2C-B might be a little bit too intense for a newbie. I would say shrooms are more difficult to handle than 2C-B by far. To me, 2C-B is *the* psychedelic for beginners.

>>6132 personally i'd recommend acid (from a reasonably trusted source) since it's easier to find and more of a "true" psychedelic. 2cb has always felt more like a combination of mdma or amphetamine with subtle psychedelic effects rather than a proper psychedelic. if someone has never used harder drugs before i feel like the speedyness might complicate things for them. imo acid > shrooms for a beginner because it's easier to measure dosage. shrooms are always kind of a gamble.

>>6152 Shrooms also have this entire narrative they want you to listen to. Acid just is. Fungus comes in and demands stuff.

>>6170 that's a nice poetic way to put it

>>5568 id love to try it but i have no chance of finding it on the streets here and in the US its even rare and expensive on dnms.

>>6170 That's a very good way of describing the difference. Then again a lot of people don't like acid because they want the drug to guide them towards something. I think it takes a special kind of mindset to use LSD as an entheogen.

>>5675 Do they really pull the sniffer dogs out for domestic mail? I understand never even trying to ship weed internationally as they properly search then but even domestic? I've never tried ordering weed online as I can find it local (and its only Class C) but it seems excessive for them to search for it in the post.

>>6874 yes. If the package smells it counts as probable cause and they can open it up. They don't do it on all mail of course just stuff that the postmen say is vaguely "suspicious" and even then it's a big maybe.