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Linda Lee · 2019-07-31 20:07
Research Chemicals General
What are research chemicals? Research chemicals (aka RCs, Novel Psychoactive Substances, NPSs, etc.) are unregulated psychoactive substances sold online for "research purposes" to skirt around controlled substance analogue laws regarding human consumption. Almost always these substances will be sold with the tagline "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION". Generally in the United States these substances are legal unless meant for human consumption (which is hard to prove in court).
So why should I be interested in them?
Some RCs are pro-drugs of controlled substances, meaning they will metabolize into a controlled substance when consumed. Two popular pro-drug RCs are 1p-LSD and 4-AcO-DMT. 1p-LSD metabolizes into, well, LSD and 4-AcO-DMT metabolizes into 4-HO-DMT (psilocin), the psychoactive compound in psilocybin mushrooms [1]. But there are other RCs that are not pro-drugs. 5-MeO-DMT is a tryptamine that causes intense ego death and emotions, but is also found in Bufo Alvarius (a frog native to the Southwestern United States and Mexico) secretions [2]. There are numerous arylcyclohexylamines, such as 2-FDCK, 3-HO-PCP and 3-MeO-PCE [3]. As well, if you're into benzos and opioids there's plenty of those too, but I would bear caution towards them.
Where can I learn about RCs?
r/ResearchChemicals, reddit is like kicking dead whales down the beach but it has some good info
https://old.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/
Psychonaut wiki
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
Wikipedia usually has some good information on whatever substance you're researching What kind of OPSEC do I need to purchase RCs?
Generally speaking, breaking your crypto money trail with monero and then trying to order with tor is your best bet. Small amounts of RCs really don't need a large amount of OPSEC. Unless you're buying kilos of RC benzos and plan on selling them as xanax then don't worry too much.
Where can I get them?
Most vendors sell via their own clearnet shops with crypto or through direct deals via email. Dread's RCSources has a good list of active vendors.
http://dreadditevelidot.onion/d/rcsources
1: To clarify, psilocybin is found in psilocybin mushrooms, and that metabolizes into psilocin in the body. So essentially, it's the same as a mushroom trip.
2: 5-MeO-DMT is schedule 1 in the US.
3: All arylcyclohexylamines are controlled in Canada.
Vasya Pupkin · 2019-07-31 20:15
Before purchasing research chemicals in the United States burger lainons should consult this PDF to see what their respective states' laws are about research chemicals.
https://www.lainchan.org/drug/src/1558144535918.pdf
Debbie Charteris · 2019-10-21 22:17
Probably a dumb question, but are there any easily available RC that are similar in effect to ADHD meds like Ritalin or Adderall? Getting them in my country (legally and illegally) is difficult for me and I think they would help improve my life a lot.
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2019-10-22 04:25
>>4549
Been a while since I've looked around, but here are some names I recall. YMMV.
>RC
Ethylphenidate
3-FPM
In general, *phenmetrazine analogues and *phenidate analogues should be what you want.
>Other
Ma Huang (aka Ephedra Sinica), buy it and make a tea, enjoy. Don't fuarrrk this one up for the rest of us, don't tell your friends about it.
Buy pseudoephedrine and oxidize the hydroxyl group to make methcathinone.
Buy propylhexedrine in nasal inhaler, pluck out the cotton and extract the good stuff with some vinegar (or any other weak acid/water solution). Or just eat the cotton and die from impacted bowels. Please don't screw this one up either. I'd hate to see a good thing get derezzed.
Research 10x more and stay safe lain.
Ender · 2019-10-22 12:47
I'm curious. Is it easier to get ahold of RCs that are legitimately research chemicals or drugs in development or rejected by companies as opposed to recreational analogues meant to circumvent drug laws? In US is that more legal or would that be more difficult to find at a reasonable price and proper quality for someone who isn't a licensed research scientist?
>>4549
Just to clarify do you have ADHD or not? Why jump immediately to the conclusion of needing RCs just because you can't access only two meds? What country would not have such common meds even through legal means?
Yuki Nagato · 2019-10-22 17:35
>>4549
3-FMA (3-Fluoromethylamphetamine)
4F-MPH (4-Fluoromethylphenidate)
Unsigned · 2019-10-22 22:54
>>4552
Thanks lain,
all three of those are controlled substances here unfortunately (although it looks like i can still buy propylhexedrine from online vendors despite the fact it's a class B drug) so I think I'll keep moving forward with the RCs
>>4554
I have inattentive ADHD but to get a scrip here you have to go through your therapist which takes a while and not being able to focus on anything is really messing up my life. Obviously once I'm able to get ADHD meds I'll switch to them of course. Also Adderall is illegal here and only Ritalin is prescribed.
Acid Burn · 2019-10-22 23:51
>>4557
Try 2-FMA or 4F-MPH but I wouldn't take them on a daily basis maybe couple times a week.
Batou · 2019-10-22 23:53
>>4554
No it's much easier to buy the recreational ones because they are just plain clearnet sites, some even take credit cards. Many times you have to be some kind of company or something to get these actually rare research drugs.
Yuki Nagato · 2019-10-23 00:06
>>4557
Then you may not be looking for an RC necisarilly just a nootropic may do for your intent. Modafinil or its prodrug Adrafinil may work for you. Just do a search for modafinil and ADHD or ADD and you can see quite a few studies supporting it's potential use for that. Rare deadly side effect to consider though.
Case · 2019-10-23 00:06
>>4559
i plan on taking it to kick start things, once i get going i can normally cope but i can never start anything
>>4560
yeah
i thought about buying adderall off the dark(?) net but im not super experienced in it and with the attention span and commitment of a gnat i figured it was easier to try doing something that didnt involve learning about bitcoin and stuff
Agent Richard Gill · 2019-10-23 00:07
>>4561
both of those are illegal here
Ender · 2019-10-23 00:37
>>4563
Then if the laws are that difficult first try to use NALT or L-dopa to raise your dopamine levels. It's a common thing people with ADHD do.
Case · 2019-10-23 00:55
>>4564
can't seem to find L-dopa but i can find NALT, how would it help me and stuff? website isnt very helpful
Batou · 2019-10-23 06:49
>>4565
If you can't find l-dopa you can use Mucuna pruriens (if i spelled it right) which has relatively high amounts of l-dopa in it. L-dopa and NALT convert to dopamine. Several ADHD meds work as dopamine reuptale inhibitors so it has a similar goal of increasing dopamine levels and sometimes l-dopa or NALT is taken to help ease a come down when the meds start wearing off. People with ADHD have low dopamine in part of their brain. Dopamine is basically what your brain uses to tell you what to pay attention to. You probably would need to take it in spaced out doses to have an effect last through the day. They are just supplements so it shouldn't be a big deal obtaining and trying it out and if it doesn't work it's not a big loss. Probably less costly than using RCs daily I would assume.
Nguoi La · 2019-10-23 23:14
>>4568
thanks lainon
im more looking for something to kickstart me getting things done until i can get proper meds but i'll look into it
Turner · 2019-10-24 06:25
i'll tell you about one mane. 4-aco-dmt is like shrooms but better. trust me its amazing and beautiful. pure wonder before your eyes
Koichiro · 2019-10-25 01:01
Had my fair share of experience with rc's.
Mainly rc benzos, opioids, psychedelics & keta derivates.
2-Oxo-PCE was definitely one of my favorite experiences together with my friends.
Too bad the only rc vendor that I know is trustworthy hasn't restocked this rc in almost a year now..
Shit if only I knew about that I would have gotten myself a fine stash to last me a few months. Still checking for restocks almost daily but that rc might have fallen under a new ban/law by now.
If you can get your hands on 2-oxo-pce I highly recommend you try it out.
Dujour · 2019-10-30 01:58
>>4574
Seconding this. Ive microdosed with it as well, good soykaf.
Anybody here taken 25-i? Commonly sold by soykaf heads as acid, its a good party drug when responsibly taken.
Ivan Horvat · 2019-10-30 09:03
>>4600
i've tried 25i on three different occasions, it's fun and can get pretty visual if you take higher doses.
i really like to try it again sometime but is rarely get's sold on DWM's as itself
dosn't taste great either
Cypher · 2019-12-21 07:19
>>4552
How would you make the tea? Do you boil with the herb in the water, or ass the herb after the water is removed from the stove?
Hitomi · 2019-12-31 07:11
Got some ethylphenidate for new year's. What a fantastic substance.
Anamika · 2019-12-31 09:57
>>4560
>Many times you have to be some kind of company or something to get these actually rare research drugs.
I see. So if one were to pose as a company or actually form a legit company even then rare literal research chemicals are likely only available in large bulk quantities and maybe cost hundreds to thousands of dollars?
Agent Jones · 2019-12-31 13:37
Who likes synthetic cannabinoids? Which are still legal?
Switch · 2020-01-03 04:23
>>4559
Can you get 2-FMA just shipped to your home without issues? I found a site but I'm not sure if that's terrible opsec.
William Holtzer · 2020-01-03 04:30
>>4985
not likely. There is a whole industry built around manufacturing small amounts of exotic chemicals that might have some kind of medical use, and shipping them out to other companies and universities for scientific investigation. It's how LSD and psilocybin were first spread around the world.
Dox · 2020-01-03 10:51
>>5000
Oh wait that does seem to ring a bell. Basically you just request what to be made and they will provide it. Though still seems quite expensive.
Dujour · 2020-01-03 16:21
>>4564
I have ADHD and L-Tyro really helps me, in combination w/ prescribed MPH. I imagine NALT works similarly.
Sipho Nkosi · 2020-01-08 19:05
RCs are dead
what is even worth the merit?
Delilah · 2020-03-05 22:15
>>5021
No they are not, I only order RC benzos. I don't know what the fuarrrk you were on about.
Roger Pollack · 2020-03-06 10:49
>>5397
I think they meant how there are laws in some places that make them illegal now so there isn't a reason to take the additional risk of a less known drug.
Tyrell Wellick · 2020-03-06 14:51
>>5400
instead you take the risk of an unknown drug, that is supposed to be something known, but 99 in 100 people have no way to test it besides non-specific and non-quantitative color reagents.
Bobby Newmark · 2020-09-04 19:16
yeah I cant let this thread die, to much valuable info in the OP
Batou · 2020-09-04 21:24
>>5002
why not just get tyrosine from food?