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What would you reccomend for someone looking to drown out his life problems and social anxiety

Friendship.

Oxytocin.

>>3005 >>3006 the two genders

Board games.

>>3007 I lol'd

Weed lmao!

>>3005 honestly this. there is no greater cure to social anxiety than having people you trust who can trust you back. and a little bit of alcohol and weed

gabapentin for social anxiety, it's by far the best. Or some variation of gabapentin

Ideas. Small ideas of small people always have strict, well defined scopes, goals, limits. Great ideas however encompass so much, they just need some of their roots and branches to rip right outside the flesh of this planet and your brains. They can't be "just human" and "just physical reality" and any of those little boxes, no. You need great ideas that cover a good part or most of reality. There's only really a few of them like how there's only a few isomorphic 4 vertex simple graphs (ways to connect 4 dots). These ideas are like a rainbow fire that burns atoms, burns space, burns time, burns cause-effect, burns memories, burns gods, burns anything that can or can't be named on any level of abstraction. Running this soykaf on any processor will make it go hot and the fans go full speed. It's mania that puts all the usual problems about and values in life on a shelf where it contextually belongs; you won't be focusing on what "really matters", you'll be focusing on everything, indiscriminately, in an undefined behavior order. Many people shun the Chaos Blade (DS) as it erodes you as you cut things with it. But that's just life, and even if you use a weapon that doesn't hurt you at all, you still die before you can make infinite cuts. Using the Chaos Blade of all weapons is just admitting the truth. Of course, you could just try some drugs or other concepts like people here recommend.

Find meaning and purpose to endure the suffering. Embrace the ａｓｃｅｔｉｃ

>>3018 >>3018 I've tried this and it hasn't helped at all. It's only made me realize that this life is all we have, it's made my life worse. Give me something I can take that can make it all go away.

>>3030 >Give me something I can take that can make it all go away. Heroin, I guess. But that's temporary and will make things worse. Experiential avoidance leads to suffering, embrace your anxiety and life problems.

>>3004 nac, that is all

>>3018 Do you follow any tradition?

A list: Masochism, a taste, natural or acquired for suffering. Suicide. Drugs, preferably opiates or other strong dopamine agonists. You might also get what you need from copious amounts of alcohol. These are.basically a protracted form of suicide in the medium to long term. Pour your agony into some expressive medium. Art, in all its forms, or some tremendously difficult task, such as in the natural sciences or engineering. Mathematics may also suit well for finding an seemingly invincible problem toward which to direct your frustrations. Ultra promiscuous sexuality. Find lots of others with your same outlook and fuarrrk till you all drop. fuarrrk away the pain. fuarrrk away the sadness. fuarrrk to feel needed if only for a moment until all future moments vanish for you. You could also find a doctor who will help you get a deep brain stimulator implanted into your reward center so you can simply wash away your mind in a flood of pleasure at the push of a button. Unless you have substantial will power, you will likely do this and forgoe sleep, water and food until you die just like the rats who were given this power over themselves. There may be other options. But these are.the most potent I can think of.

the best art comes out of depression and anxiety issues

introspection, problem solving, sad music, happy music, and some tea.

>>3034 >opiates damn, i went straight to methylphenidate when i gave up dealing with life problems, opiates just scare me

Daily tramadol. Weed when alone and relaxing. Modafinil when you need to get work done. Valium for any unusually stressful events. Fentanyl for when you are ready to die; feels good to know it's there if you suddenly need it.

>>3048 >Modafinil Why this and not Adderall? What's the difference?

>>3103 Not him, but modafinil is a really mild stim that is comparable to a light push on the back Amphetamine on other hand is L A Z E R E Y E S

>>3104 I can agree, Depression + adderall = addiction

>>3044 Mmm, I love methylphenidate. I'm still pissed at the Canadian government for scheduling all *phenidate substances, could buy mountains of the analogues for super cheap before then.

>>3109 Tank god I live in NL I can buy stuff like 4F-MPH and get it next day legally delivered

>>3110 Well, now I'm envious. I could order from the EU but I'd rather not risk it. It was fun while it lasted. Thanks Trudeau! At least weed is legal I guess?

>>3031 I never thought I could be addicted to a substance until I started fuarrrking with boy. Maybe meth could've done me in as bad, more because I loved the productivity it gave me, but I could never get a steady supply in my area. Up until that point, I thought I had enough willpower to not get addicted to basically anything. It was surprising how fast it went from occasional use to the only thing I was working and living for. Got to the point where I was so addicted, I was visiting everyone I knew so I could steal Vicodin or Oxy from their bathrooms, crush the pills and sell it as Heroin to buy more. It's intoxicating, like stepping into a world where everything is right, where there is no regret or pain, where nothing is unforgivable and your reasons for living are clear. Even the frustration that comes with failing to fuarrrk while you and your girl rub against each other in pleasure of how great your body feels is non-existent. Then slowly, you shift back into a place even worse than you began, and life becomes about existing dose to dose. It's probably everything you want if you want to escape from depression. Benzos are comparatively useful, but you will barely remember anything after a while.

>>3121 Am I just the saddest of bois, literally no drugs make me happy. Heroin makes me feel all warm and tingly but it also makes me feel like crying. Psychedelics, quite contrary from everyone I've ever spoken to's experience, makes me feel like I don't belong in this world at all. Weed again feels nice, but I get so hung up about saying something stupid that I can only do it on my own, which is just depressing. ket's pretty good tho

Find some hobbies and find yourself a waifu...

I'd recommend not trying to drown out your problems and social anxiety.

> drown out Do speed and set the soykaf on fire!

>>3004 Ketamine with high doses of fantasy fiction and music. And probably some weed for good measure.

It won't drown out your problems, but you could try phenibut. It makes me feel like what i imagine what neurotypicals feel like. It isn't really a wonder drug or anything, but it's legal and can at least help you make new friends or something.

>>3163 Outstanding phrasing. *This is legitimately not sarcastic*

>>3004 take phenylpiracetam as you wake up, wait 4 hours, and take a walk outside repeat once a week

>>3163 i've heard withdrawl's a bitch especially from higher dose/more frequent use. any advice on this? it looks pretty fukken nice other than that

I recommend nothing. Let the anxiety consume you. Let it fuarrrk you up. Give it a good couple of hours. Afterwards, you will realize it is nothing, just a feeling that limits you, and you will get angry, because this feeling has been restricting your life. And so you will break free, and live your life

>>3217 we all die, ozymandias. nothing means anything and i just want to not be miserable my whole life if that's all right with you, notwithstanding it's just a chemical in my brain that keeps me from seeing the 'real world' and accessing my 'true potential'

>>3218 everything is just chemicals in your brain. If nothing means anything then you should stop worrying about it.

>>3219 i mean i addressed that. i recognize it's chemicals i just want to formulate the chemicals that give the entity i recognize as me the set of chemicals i deem to be enjoyment, for arbitrary reasons but that's not the point. the point being the thread isn't about self improvement or quitting or existential hairsplitting for that matter. take that to /hum/ or start a new thread about quitting if you wish

>>3217 >drugs board >"don't do drugs" Nigga..

>>3223 tee bee aych, the board is about responsible use, if someone has a life destroying addiction, it is acceptable to tell them to just don't

>>3225 eye em aitch oh you have a life destroying addiction to being right on the internet just let the thread be on topic for once in the history of this shǐthole

>>3215 You just have to be careful with it. Find the smallest dose that works for you (I do ~500mg). I also only do it about once a week. It's not really something you should do once a day, you should only really do it as needed. It has the potential to be addictive, but if you take proper precautions you shouldn't have any withdraws. Ignore anyone online that says you need to take 2 grams of the stuff a day, you don't need that much. You just need enough to take the edge off of particularly anxiety inducing situations.

>>3232 got some yesterday, i'll be trying it out and will post results/observations. out of curiosity i saw several varieties, mainly 'large crystals', 'fine crystals', and powder. is there a difference, any preparation needed for the crystals, or is it just prerefence? i got the powder.

>>3215 I recommend only using tons of drugs during extreme knife-on-wrist depression spikes, then quiet down. And if you don't get those emotional spikes (or you don't think drugs will help), don't even bother using more than you can handle. It's impossible to notice when you're using it often enough to suffer withdrawl, so all you can do is be careful as >>3232 said. I can't stress this enough, you will not notice it coming. It isn't like drinking too much coffee and getting jittery, or smoking too much and getting a sore throat. It builds day to day and withdrawl can last weeks, although the first week will always be the worst. And it's not exclusive to heavy drugs, you can suffer withdrawl from drinking coffee or smoking cigarettes, it just takes more time to build the dependence. During a withdrawl you'll get headaches, a soykafty fuarrrking mood, random pains through your body (not sure if everyone feels that though), problems to sleep, not to mention the desire to just get some drugs and be done with it. It's not as bad as movies make it out to be, i've never had hallucinations caused by withdrawl for example, nor did i ever think about selling my asshole to buy drugs, it's not that bad. When you're going through it it's just like a fever, you know you're getting better everyday, it's just really difficult to endure.

nothing works. if you turn to drugs your drug usage just becomes the life problem and producer of anxiety This is alluring for some because its an easier problem to manage, get more, hide it better. When I stopped using drugs I recall feeling afraid about a non drug related problem for the first time in awhile several months after. I was ecstatic to finally be feeling again about normal human things. I felt afraid but things were okay. It was a great realization. all I can say is that I guess I wouldnt see the beauty in such things if I hadnt lost them for a long while. Itd be best though if you could realize it without having to go through addiction.

>>3273 well i'm coming back to this after quite a while but better late than never. i took one leveled-ish scoop of the powder since i don't have a milligram scale yet but it's supposed to be one 500mg dose. not super scientific of me i know dosed about 5 hours before a the start of a day i knew was going to be a lot of stress and bullshít, since i was awake late anyway. didn't notice anything phenomenal or life changing but i was pretty okay with everything, considering how early i was up and the events of the day although i don't know if it was a function of the phenibut, placebo, or that i just don't really let my job stress me out that much since i have stopped giving a damn about any of it. overall it didn't hurt and may have helped so that's that

>>3381 you wont feel a sudden change, but gradual effect. usually you'll feel the effects 2 hours in, don't eat a few hours before/after. try waiting a week and going for 1g then, first few times are going to be finding a sweet spot. there are many factors that can influence its effect so don't be concerned that its a dud or go for high doses

ketamine

>>3007 Physically laughed for once

I'd suggest a mixture of alcohol, antidepressants/anxiety medication and MDMA. The alcohol keeps you ignorant, the antidepressants keep you "sane" and the MDMA helps with empathy issues and feeling "happy"

Drugs are only a temporary solution to your problem. They can't have any long term positive effects. The truth is that you can only fix these problems if you get help, and asking for that on a chan isn't going to do much for you. Have you ever tried seeing a psychologist?

>>3004 Choose one or two really important things to get seriously worried about and give limited head space to to the rest. When you get worried, ask yourself if the thing you are worried about is a priority and if not, then acknowledge that you decided with a clear head it's not a priority and you are OK with whatever bad scenario might happen. (Actual coping technique from someone whose life is a colossal clusterfuck.)

>>3004 I would recommend developing healthy coping mechanisms and/or changing your lifestyle in a way that makes you happier for the life problems part. For your anxiety, you can try phenibut, modafnil, psilocybin(microdose or full trip), LSD (same deal), meditation, exercise, abstaining from masturbation, 5-HTP (haven't tried this one so can't speak for the results), prescription pharma (lexapro, etc)... None of this is as important as what is bothering you anon. Maybe you just need an ear?

Shrooms, definitely helps me vibe, like rn

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