How to stop smoking weed?

How do I stop smoking weed if I have literally zero will power and a constant source of free weed? Is like I want to stop smoking weed and at the same time didn't want to stop.

picuture related, caption is "Use me to light your hearts flame, not to smoke onnii-chan"

I see a lot of people rave about this book but I haven't read it: https://www.charlesduhigg.com/the-power-of-habit/

You don't have zero will power or you wouldn't see a problem with it nor would have made this thread. For starters though you need a good reason to. Nobody addicted to something ever quits just because they abstractly understand it's good for them. You have to really and concretely or intuitively have a higher reason that you see as more valuable. I don't have a problem with weed, but for stims I can't meditate on them. I see meditation as key to my growth, and that's the only thing that motivates me to stop. This is why you see most anti addiction programs advertising a higher power. The only real way to stop is to see it as worth it, and if you have an internalized concept of some higher power thats literally the most important thing in the world thats almost a guaranteed motivator to quit. You need to find something you inherently love and see joy in that weed prevents you from doing, and it also needs to be something that isn't just going to go away and then you relapse. Hence why they say you can't quit for anybody but yourself, if you quit for a family member and then they die you just are going to go back to it.

>>2792 I don't really feel like I've a reason to quit at all. Both my parents are junkies, and I mostly smoke with my mom. I've tried quitting so many times, but I always end up relapsing and getting more hooked than before after the relapse. And when I'm clean, I end up fapping daily as a substitute. I feel sick and tired of daily weed smoking for 4 years.

do you mostly smoke alone or with other people? or is it an even split? in my experience, its relatively straightforward to stop smoking if you're always the one to initiate it. just set rules for yourself ("i won't smoke before 8pm") and come up with rewards or diversions to help you stick to them. basically, it works like quitting cigarettes. (ironically, i used cigarettes as a crutch to quite smoking weed... i don't recommend this, but trading one addiction for another is a legitimate tactic. if you don't mind nicotine addiction -- or already have one -- you may want to try vaping. it scratches a similar itch for me anyway.) the hard part is when you're constantly being offered weed by other people, especially if most of your friends are stoners and most of your entertainment involves weed. in this case what you need to do is tell them directly that you think you're smoking too much and you're going to quit for a while. they'll inevitably forget and offer you hits, so its important that you build up the willpower to say "no thanks, i'm good" when someone's holding a joint in front of you. this bit is important: if you're going to cheat, don't cheat in front of your friends. if you say you're quitting, but then still smoke with them on occasion, they're going to think "oh i guess anon changed his mind" and continue to sabotage your efforts (not maliciously, of course.. but that's the result). if you can get to the point where you _only_ smoke on your own, it will be much easier for you to control. also, don't avoid hanging out with your stoner friends as a means to quit. they'll probably resent you for it and may even try to sabotage your efforts in an attempt to win you back. you can still hang out on the couch passing a joint around, just pass it without taking a hit. doing this proves to your friends that you are both serious and non-judgemental. it says "i am doing this for myself, and i value your friendship and support".

Honestly, if you think your source of free weed will remain free for a long time, it's probably worth to just take what is given and not stop.

i relapsed guys, i've done it once again one more time //it did fe҉lt g҉o҉od smoked_joints = smoked_joints + 1

smokedWeed += 1

>>2808 smokedWeed++

>>2809 int main () { SmokeDankWeed(SmokeWeed) } SmokeDankWeed(smokedWeed) { smokedWeed++ SmokeDankWeed(smokedWeed) }

private void smoke(weed) { do { smoke(weed); } while(true); }

fuarrrk i did it once again... wtf... i've been doing it for like many months daily without stoping

I THINK IF I CAN NOT DO IT FOR ONE DAY, IT CAN EVENTUALLY LEAD TO DAY 2

I've tried meth, heroin, benzos etc. any drug thats supposed to be horribly addictive I have done it. Weed is the only one I can't stop. I am way more addicted to smoking weed than getting high though. Still waiting for no-thc weed to hit the streets. I wish I could smoke cigs but they hurt my lungs

>>2814 Have you tried smoking lettuce? I've done it once, some guy offered it to me. It did felt very neutral, but good overall. Also, I've heard that THC gets positive in drugs test unless you abstain for 70 days. I hope that this would be the day 0/70.

>>2788 If you are really serious about this, please read this. "it seems to me that the very essence of freedom lies in understanding the whole mechanism of habit, both conscious and unconscious. It is not a question of ending habit, but of seeing totally the structure of habit. You have to observe how habits are formed and how, by denying or resisting one habit, another habit is created. What matters is to be totally conscious of habit; for then, as you will see for yourself there is no longer the formation of habit. To resist habit, to fight it, to deny it, only gives continuity to habit. When you fight a particular habit you give life to that habit, and then the very fighting of it becomes a further habit. But if you are simply aware of the whole structure of habit without resistance, then you will find there is freedom from habit, and in that freedom a new thing takes place. It is only the dull, sleepy mind that creates and clings to habit. A mind that is attentive from moment to moment—attentive to what it is saying, attentive to the movement of its hands, of its thoughts, of its feelings—will discover that the formation of further habits has come to an end. This is very important to understand, because as long as the mind is breaking down one habit, and in that very process creating another, it can obviously never be free; and it is only the free mind that can perceive something beyond itself." Source : https://www.jkrishnamurti.org/content/observe-how-habits-are-formed

>>2817 By the way, it has nothing to do with will power, control, resistance. Also, the will to be free from habit itself becomes a barrier to the observation of nature of habit. Sounds strange I know.

I almost make it through day one. I replaced the high with a fap, not sure if it was even worth fapping. Day 1/70

>>2827 >I replaced the high with a fap this soykaf won't work why don't you try something positive like Photography, Drawing, even sports will help.

>>2795 relapsing on weed? niga wat

>>2818 that's a pretty important thing to realize in general

>>2818 >This is very important to understand, because as long as the mind is breaking down one habit, and in that very process creating another, it can obviously never be free; and it is only the free mind that can perceive something beyond itself. so basically do nothing, right?

>>2813 kind of innacurate, yeah thats true. however whats harder is a month in not being like "oh I can handle this now i conquered it" addiction is sneaky. I wish I could stop abusing stims personally. I hate what im doing to myself.

>>2834 Do nothing but it doesn't mean one is lazy/inattentive.

>>2818 I've seen myself making joints a lot of times, so, that barrier doesn't sound so bad.

DAMN, I RELAPSED.... I FEEL fuarrrkING WEIRD. LIKE ALIENS fuarrrkING KINAPED MY BRAIN. iT WAS DAY 2/70 BUT NOW I GO BACK TO YEAR (I MEAN, DAY) Z3R0 HELP: IM DRUNK AND STONED, AND I'VE ALWAYS FEEL LIKE I'M ALWAYS IN THIS STATE. LIFE MAKES ME FEEL CONFUSED. I CAN'T STATE ANYMORE TO QUESTION MY STATE OF CONCIENCIOUSNESS. fuarrrk I HAVEN'T EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH TO ANY ENGLISH SPEAK PERSON FACE TO FACE. AT THE TIME OF WRITING THIS I HAVEN'T EAT AND I'M VERY NOT IN MY 5 SENSES. soykaf, i wrote all those things in all caps.... whatever

OH GOD, IM GONNA BE FINE. I JUST NEED TO REST, IM STILL FULLY CONCIENCIOUS, or maybe not. I DON'T WANN A die, not s00n to be honest. I WAN'T A G00D LIF3

>>2788 Ignoring your presumably drug-induced freakout... I recommend Allen Carr's book The Easy Way to Stop Smoking. It's not entirely appropriate for your problem, as it was written about cigarettes, and the style makes it seem like the worst kind of self-help book, but I found it to be a valuable tool in reprogramming my conception of addiction in general. It basically just says that there two steps to quitting: quit and then enjoy your life. Everything else is unnecessary or harmful. The book as a whole essentially dismantles objections to this simple formula and hypnotizes (largely through repetition and positivity) the reader into accepting it so that it can be enacted. I've also had success with putting a barrier between the concept of "desire" and that of "want," where desire is the suggestion of the "undermind" and want is the decision of the "overmind" between suggested desires. Under this scheme, anyone who wants to stop stops and anyone who doesn't stop doesn't want to stop. I'm not entirely sure if I discovered a buffer that already existed psychologically or if I created a new one, but this has apparently improved my ability to resist temptation.

>>2788 find out what void in your life that cannabis fills and then fill it with something else. easier said than done, but I've managed to cut myself back to a reasonable intake of drugs by attempting this, with relapses when the alternative band-aids lapse. but there is a definite fuarrrking reason you feel like smoking weed all the time and it isn't just your will power, your will power is what is supposed to stop you from using weed to fill the void in your life, it's not itself the void in your life.

>>2858 > but there is a definite fuarrrking reason you feel like smoking weed all the time and it isn't just your will power, your will power is what is supposed to stop you from using weed to fill the void in your life, it's not itself the void in your life. this is important OP Just so you know, you're not alone. My waifu in the same boat. She's trying to quit, but there is a void in her that hurts too much. So she smokes. What I'm trying to make her understand is that she has to take care of that void, not avoid it.

>>2858 >>2866 I actually think this "void" concept serves to legitimize the troublesome behavior. Whether you smoke or don't or do just about anything else, you'll have bad days, and you'll probably feel unfulfilled. The question is really "is this behavior counterproductive to realizing my goals?" If the answer is yes, then the behavior should reasonably be abandoned no matter how miserable you'll be without it. I've found stripping things down to practical terms more useful than dramatizing (where the so-called "void" is an obviously dramatic metaphor).

>>2875 As someone who is also currently trying to cut down on smoking, I find that this is the most effective way to consider it. Thinking in the context of your goals helps you to realize what is productive and what isn't. If I feel a "void," it's usually just me failing to come up with something better to do. For me, void often just denotes sobriety. It's counterproductive to associate a comparatively high-functioning state with a word that refers to emptiness. Setting goals is probably the most important thing one can do to get over dependence. Try to think, "I want to get good at x, and being high is not the best way to accomplish that."

As others have said in this thread, it is the mechanism of human habit that is holding you back. >Is like I want to stop smoking weed and at the same time didn't want to stop. Your frontal lobe and your limbic system are responding differently. The limbic system is an ancient, animal part of your brain. It forms your habits. It is a very cemented part of the brain because it's so old. Your frontal lobe is the human part of your brain, it plans for the future. It is fairly new and not as strong as the limbic system. Your human side sees the pattern of endlessly smoking weed and wants to do more. You want a different future deep down, but the habit part of your brain has trapped you in a reward cycle. This is why humans are capable of wanting to want something. "The Power of Habit" has been mentioned in this thread. It is a good book on this topic. "Willpower Instinct" is probably better, it's more accessible, has more practical advice, is rooted in a lot of research and real-world experience, and is hard to put down. A bit of practical advice too: if you're on a journey to improve yourself, track your journey and reflect on it regularly. If you're just a little better each week and don't let yourself slip, you will see incredible things.

I've been smoking weed daily. Day after day... Doesn't matter what I do, I'm always stoned like a fuarrrking junkie.

Joint after joint after joint I countinue with this repetitive loop without being able to found the break; statment in the behavioural pattern.

>>2798 DO NOT use cigarettes to stop smoking weed. That's literally retarded. Nicotine addiction is much much more difficult to get rid of.

>>2915 >>2916 Nothing is going to change if you don't try to engage yourself with new ideas and strategies, lainon.

OP here... Been smoking daily, at least twice a day.

>>2926 pretty solid advice. i havent smoked weed in like 2 months because ive been drinking everyday instead. it's like id call it a victory but i'll probably have to start smoking weed again to quit drinking.

>>2926 It worked for me is all saying. Quit weed (6 years) with cigs, quit cigs (4 years w overlap) with vape, quit vape (<1 year) out of boredom with it. Vaping nicotine is a lot less detrimental to your day to day than weed is. If you don't have the willpower to stop directly its a decent trade. Pretty easy to taper off vaping because you can control the nic content of the liquid you buy. Just make sure to get a proper vape and not a juul/phix/etc cartridge thing because those things are designed to keep you hooked (higher nic concentration, similar in concept to nicorette gum making people's addictions worse).

>>2962 I don't want to vape. I just want to stop fapping, stop smoking weed. And find some meaning to my life

I just smoke another one btw

I mean, 2.... 22 days after I created this post. >>2967

i've been smoking a lot i feel very stoned, it feels weird, like... confusing at certain times

Your subconscious mind is what is preventing you and your conscious mind is what thinks you should stop. That being said, gaining freedom from habits is tough. There may be other things in your life which are triggering your subconscious urges. I would look for things in the environment that are triggers and physically remove them. Environment can be literally anything from the food you eat to the people around you, pretty much anything in the outside world.

>>2995 Living is some kind of trigger. Also, I just smoked a joint

I also think I should stop smoking weed, as I believe it is activating some predisposition to schizophrenia. I feel as though I am just acting, as though I am not myself, but a character in a book. I can feel the cameras watching me, like my life is a movie. But it is the terrifying paranoia that I cannot keep living with. I hear people talking in the distance, echoing sounds, sharp sounds, I just HATE IT WHY CANT I HEAR a sound without thinking IT IS TRYING TO KILL ME. I feel a purifying hatred of myself stinging deeply.

>>3016 I feel to related to this. Common paranoia is also normal to me at the times i do use it regularily. i just blazed a joint right now lmao

>>3001 Really now, how good does it feel to suffer with a life devoid of meaning.

>>3017 I also gave in to the monstrous plant inside my veins, and now it is going to rape me. Once the toxic waste goes to my head I can't defend myself and I become enslaved. But at least I am aware of the slavery. I think that by writing and being aware of this, I am some how taking pleasure in submitting to the lizard living in my brain. I feel more conscious, though I am certain it is a disease. But at least here I can be something, be proud of my disease, and so I will not die alone in my corner only dreaming of other lives.

I just smoked two more joints. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6657PH9gQ

>>3020 this feels too meta btw

I smoked more and more...

>>3028 I do remember one thing It took hours and hours and by the time I was done with it I was so involved I didnt know what to think

I fapped in the morning and proceed to smoke three joints during all the day. I feel regular.

I need to be the best person that I can be

I hope

Turn to a new drug, maybe dreams. Works out well, because smoking weed usually inhibits dreaming

>>3042 I'm already addicted to sleeping, but most of the time I don't remember what I dream, or even if I dream. Life feels like a dream, and dreams feels like being plain numb/resting. https://youtu.be/f7mg5j038lU>>3042

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>>3019 What's the meaning of life, senpai?

>>2788 This thread is a fever dream LMAO

>>3050 >no dreams This will get fixed quickly, once you stop toking. Do Diphenhydramine instead! There will be dogs everywhere when you sleep. Spiders are cool. >life feels like a dream Derealization is a reliable signal of your body telling your mind telling you to get sober for a few days.

>>3062 My body stills feels stoned as fuarrrk. I've been smoking daily, 2.5 joints per day maybe.

Sometimes i feel really fuarrrked up by my own mind. But I swear I've enjoyed every joint I've smoked.

Ok, my birthday is coming soon... It's almost new year. And I smoked a joint. Soon I'll turn 22. And I've been smoking since 17. That makes 5 years of being regularily stoned. https://open.spotify.com/track/63HnUxYxCZkBWFGyk1WMCW?si=SQ7mEtm2RaufsiccoaNZIg

My guy, if you want to stop smoking quit bitching at how awful your life is, look at your state of being and draw motivation to make an attempt. You're literally getting nothing done and complaining that you're lazy. Do something! Sports, books, music! Something!

so I stopped smoking for 2.5 weeks and now I smoked again. I have fallen into such an anxious/depressed state these past 2 weeks. After getting high I feel like I stopped being a braindead robot running from all challenges and now I can see my life for real. Like I woke up from a dream of life. I don't know if I really should stop smoking or how. It just seems so much easier to waste time while high but I feel more aware.

>>3095 I caught depersonalisation and derealization after smoking tobacco fortified with MDMB-CHMICA, a strong synthetic cannabinoid, daily over a couple of weeks, but can't remember how long I felt detached and dull after stopping. It is a really sluggish process, where you won't be able to notice a difference to the day before. Imagine watching the hour hand on a clock in hope to see it hit the next mark. It will happen eventually, but you can't speed it up or expect huge jumps.

start by believing you do have power. if you dont either way nothing comes of it, on the chance even if its very small if you do you will be able to utilize it. or if you have no desire to change then just treat it like a fact of life. if you are though i reccomend the above, it can only help worst case it does nothing but you can die saying you tried which i think will bring you much peace when you do, imcomparable to whatever effort/suffering you suffered by trying.

Tonight's the first night I've gone without getting high. I'm so fuarrrking bored.

>>3139 I know that feeling, and im gonna know it again when i quit for january with my friends. After the first day or two of being bored you just kind of wind up, for lack of a better word, normal again. I stop missing smoking as much after the first day and feeling like im thinking more clearly.

Out of all of the drugs you could do, this is one of the best, and least harmful. If you don't have a goal or reason in mind, quitting anything is difficult. Best idea. Set up a day of the month, or every two weeks to smoke. It's like your cheat day when dieting. Just my two cents.

>tfw fell so low to smoke leftovers you find I try to quit both kinds of smoking but the winter is pisssing me off and im an expert at wasting time, im probably schizo standard now. Its just so damn much fun being high and i have 0 to none self control and lazy as soykaf.

Hey, happy new year 2019 It's my 22 birthday And I'm stoned, like everyday

What you all think about mind control?

I used to smoke everyday, free weed provided by parents. I'm at my fifth day without and I quit thanks to self pitying, I couldn't stand seeing myself as a junkie and I really want to do something useful in life. A couple nights ago it was like a nightmare irl, thoughts came to me about smoking random dust stuff from my desk hoping it was weed, going stoned to school and work, telling myself that tomorrow I'll do something good but today is relax day. I was disgusted by myself and quit again. But I really don't know what to suggest. I know there's nothing people could have said that would have helped me, the change came from the inside. So good luck... BTW, I also tried benzos, opiates and amphetamines like >>2814 said and I've never had issues with them, only weed. I think I'm/was addicted to the dopamine rush, that feeling of having accomplished something. It justified my laziness.

>>3191 your parents are jukies, degenerates?

I was thinking about killing myself. And I rolled a joint, then it passed, and played some LoL. Now I want to roll another joint. Also my relationship with my ex (or gf who broke up with me by phone message) is giving me anxiety. >>3194 junkies

w e l l ҉ i smoked another O N E in 20 m i n u t e s i've done less or more in that time

whats y'all opinion on drug induced anxiety?

>>3199 it bad

>>3199 I'm not really sure what opinion there is to have on it. It's a thing, it happens, it's a real phenomenon. Could be a good catalyst for quitting, if you're able to associate being high with that mental state. >>3189 could be pretty cool. maybe OP should try psychedelics? it'd be a similar method of rewiring one's brain, if nothing else, and it'd probably work at least a little bit to be honest.

s m o k e c r a c k

OP Here >>3201 I've done LSD like 3 or 4 times. >>3224 i v e d o n e i t also got busted by cops before buying crack near the local military base :<

>>3194 Well, if people who smoke weed everyday are junkies for you, then yea definitely. BTW almost two weeks in and going strong, quitting was worth it. Back to doing useful soykaf already.

OP read about CBD, you can get stuff that's just like weed (or oil, edibles, dog treats (yeah really)) but without the THC so you don't get 'high', but you get something, it's hard to describe. Still cannabinoids and chill feelings in your system. Feels good. Helps with coming off of weed a lot, hopefully you can taper off it a lot easier that way. If you vape/smoke CBD a few times when you'd normally smoke weed I think it'd be pretty helpful.

>>2788 occupy yourself with something. you're on lainchan - why not explore technology?

When you're offered weed just say "nah I'm good bro" Without giving yourself a hard barrier you're going to have a hard time following through. Alternatively: get a full time job and become so occupied that you have no time to be stoned anymore. If you're quitting by necessity, you're more likely to stick with it. On weekends find a good hobby. Go outside, get into camping, or sailing, or woodworking, whatever. My only objection to pursuing technology related hobbies like >>3313 suggests is you spend a lot of time indoors by yourself, an environment conducive to giving in to your impulses and continuing your self destructive habit. Just say no and get yourself away from it, because you clearly can't handle coexisting with it in your life. Until then you will continue to slip.

Been smoking daily. At this point I'm just depressed both when I'm stoned and when I'm sober. Need to stop saying yes to impulsive behaviours.

>>3254 I'd also recommend this I've completely cut my weed usage with CBD. I don't know how I used to get high every day honestly.

I smoked daily for years. Was smoking 1g of pure THC a day towards the end. Stopping was excruciatingly painful. I had several emotional breakdowns over about a month long period and the only reason I actually stopped was that I decided to improve my life and get a college degree. Going on an extended vacation in another country for a month helped me detox but my god was I psychologically addicted.

It keeps comming and i think im developing full blown psychosis. My life is weirder than any work of fiction i might have read.

>>3552 Tell us more. I've been wondering if someone has been going through the same.

>>3552 Its quite difficult to put it into perspective, i will try as best as i can to put it into words. For some time now i am convinced the world is not actually real and that its some kind of fabrication, myself included. As if life is some kind of movie where i am an actor in. And way too much of it is hinted at for to be true. I have this strange feeling like my mind creates my reality, i am god in this world and not at the same time. Oddly enough i did spend a lot of time reading about the occult and all that stuff, the gaian mind in particular. I think i obtained the ability to break trough to some kind of higher intelligence, just like lilly described in his theory of bio circuits. The devine mind talked to me, but i am uncertain as of what to do. I think my current priority ought to be mastering of psychonautics and unlocking psychic powers, but i keep fuarrrking around too much. I keep thinking that the solution to all my problems are in aquiring magic powers and using them. When you go from flying saucers as hyperdimensional beings who manipulate physical reality and crowley summoned them for the lulz, its pretty deep down the well of weird soykaf. The odd thing is i seem to understand a lot more about occult, spirituality, psychadelic scene and all that jazz than i ever did and things seem to make sense, yet they cannot make sense because its all hyperreal. SEL wasnt just a work of fiction as some might seem to think, it was a message from another world, if you follow the tracks deep enough you will see yourself. I came to conclude that the modern world is a design of pure evil to keep our souls trapped in suffering, but ive no proof. Somehow i keep comming across weed, dont ask how. When im really fuarrrked up i enter another dimension in my mind somehow. If i dont get a hit off friends then i somehow manage to find leftovers and smoke them in my pipe. Yet when im not sometimes i get that overwhelming feeling of the world not being real and me needing to take drugs to get to the other side. I cant cope with reality but i cant cope with my inner mind either and especially not what is in between. I dont know how to cope with this, feels like i fell down a spiral of some sort, i think i found another layer above reality. But its so ridiculously hard to belive that somehow mind is really above matter and this world is not real but a projection of a hypereal matrix that can be read/written to across space and time with an embeded collective intelligence. Obviously i dont talk to people about this, i may be nuts but im certainly not stupid, which adds to the mistery to this, since i seem to be one of many brilliant loons who learned the deep secret of existence, which seems the man tries to bury. But now i see its time to kick the habit and get a grip on my life and psyche. Its about best as i can tell the tale.

>>3570 >I have this strange feeling like my mind creates my reality, i am god in this world and not at the same time. i mean this is literally true. everything you percieve is not everything that is there, we are seeing things through the lense of our senses in the most literal sense. And then of course everything we percieve even via our limited senses is warped by perception, you can't witness something without processing it somehow, and that processing is done by your brain. Therefore the world you see is in fact a fabrication of your mind. However you're not fully in controll, no matter how hard you try you can't see infra red light with your naked eye. No matter how hard you try you can't see a chair without KNOWING that it is a CHAIR and everything that CHAIRness implies. You're not psychotic you're just dissociated enough to see your internal processes, which isn't a bad thing but it is annoying being aware of how limmited we are as humans, lucid enough to be aware, but not godlike enough to AFFECT MEANINGFUL INTERNAL CHANGE. Maybe the occult can help you with the second part i'm not sure, i'm yet to find success. Wish you luck lainon.

>>3570 Every time I see someone claim to have a weird life or a weird outlook on the world and then they post it, it's just a remix of the same 10 boring ideas spiced up with cheap teenager conspiracy/schizophrenia youtube video aesthetics. Structurally it's always as flat as a 1D simple graph, usually just filled with "idunnoman" to keep it verbose enough to lose some readers. This is why I hate drugs, they make people boring.

>>3578 >This is why I hate drugs, they make people boring. How many interesting sober individuals do you know? In my experience, they're boring too, no drugs required.

>>3570 N-Acetylcysteine will help with cravings. It doesn't stay in the system long though so the more times a day it's taken the better just don't exceed the daily safe limit. This is easiest to alter by your daily ability to take them using lower dose pills or a powder so it can be dose changed as needed. This will also possibly help with psycjosis. Cannabis smoking lowers thyroid hormone release so you may in theory exhibit symptoms like hypothyroidism. Hypothyroidism is one suspected cause of psychosis. However this is unrelated to cannabis induced psychosis because that's caused by a genetic factor. You may want to get your thyroid hormones checked by a blood test to confirm this. This sounds contradictory to what I just said but consider taking CBD oil or pills daily. CBD acts as an anti psychotic. Only problem is it doesn't seem clear how CBD effects the thyroid so I don't suggest taking it forever unless you can't do without it. The reason for this is because your body makes it's own cannabinoids and lowers it's production if external ones come into the body for long enough. Basically if you have any residual THC in your body CBF will help counteract it's psychoactive effects as well as help some psychosis symptoms. Also if you do happen to smoke all that will happen is you will have a more mellow high Consider taking lion's mane (mushrooms) daily. You can buy it as a powder or pill form. It has some possible effect on helping psychosis and acts as a nootropic. If you have sleep apnea keep track if it makes your symproms better or worse because I've heard both. Also be warry if you have allergies it sometimes makes them worse. Keep in mind this is experimental treatment but it beats going on traditional antipsychotics unless you get to the point nothing else helps.

Like quitting anything, figure put the pros and cons of both continuing and quitting, figure out what you want and make a plan. If you keep it intangible("I think I want to quit, maybe") then nothing will happen, and you'll probably not feel great about your results. >I'm trying to quit smoking cigarettes right now(again.) A lot of people say they want to quit when really they just want to establish better habits.

>>3576 Its more than just self realization, there is a lot of that but it goes deeper, ill see how deep down the rabbit hole goes and let you know. So far it went ok all in considering things, but i just need to step up game, it will come out fine i think. >>3578 > Every time I see someone claim to have a weird life or a weird outlook on the world and then they post it, it's just a remix of the same 10 boring ideas spiced up with cheap teenager conspiracy/schizophrenia youtube video aesthetics. Its 2019 man, almost any idea has been explored and mutated, you are hard pressed to find something nowdays that isnt a remix of some thing, drugs or not. And i did post this for >>3568. >This is why I hate drugs, they make people boring. I actually have to agree with you there, there are some interesting individuals who do a lot of drugs, but most are pretty dull, but that goes also for normal people. >>3580 Thanks for the info but i cant afford any of that, i just cut down on it, i can do it and some weed once in a while wont kill me. The bigger problem is to sort out my messed up life, with or without drugs its about the same problem, i just have a hard time focusing.

>>3595 If you can't afford supplaments then just make sure you get enough methylfolate (preferred to folic acid), B vitamins, DHA (EPA is fine too), uridine, and choline in your diet. All of these are quite important. You also should avoid any known allergens if you have any.

As someone struggling with addiction the most important thing is to not beat yourself up over it and ruminate on it. First you need to not make anyone deal with it, when you feel like soykaf because of it unless you are paying the person you arent allowed a shoulder to cry on. After that dont feel any guilt about it, move on. I know that sounds counter intuitive but think of your addictive self as this weirdo that kind of gets off on torturing you/itself. Make sure youve made your addiction entirely your problem first though (including aa groups and therapy and what not, things that exist to serve that) because otherwise youl just hurt people and be enabled. It actually helps, and ive been addicted to some soykaf and done stuff on it to myself to feel guilty about. I just say it was a slip up its gonna be fine, if I have to repeat it over and over I do that. And I dont hate that side of me that did it, I just talk to it and ask it why, how can I help? You should already know beating yourself up and torturing yourself hasnt gotten you anywhere and your going in circles right? Worst that can happen is you are going in circles and feeling a bit better. Best that can happen is that when you arent down in the dirt you feel more able to take control and you do. And trust me thats far more likely to happen. Il do you one better though. Im still struggling so il tell you some stuff that I didnt say but people who are sober and doing well have told me . I like intuition and feeling and philosophy and art and psychology and I dont care much for science and rationality and logic. I dont think the world works off those things I dont like, and I used to a bit but not anymore. I really hate them even. Id like to get rid of all that and live in a world thats just intuitive and soulful, but thats not the world we live in. And your safety is the number one priority, if your dead that world cant be anyways. And addiction leads to death, even if you die by old age your life was spent with you in the backseat and you were a rat in a skinner box. I hate that analogy, I dont think we ever are in control, but it doesnt matter. You need to look at what people who got past addiction are doing, what people who are in control are doing, and even if it doesnt make intuitive sense you do it. You need to reframe your mind where the rational conclusion, this person is doing x and because of it is y (which is how I want to be), is more important than your intuition and what seems real to you. That rationality needs to be more real than reality. I dont know where you live, but if you live in any western society your constitution probably has it written in that those who are irrational are beasts and enemies at worst and at best not important. Your the "at best" right now, but who knows whats in store if you continue like this. You need to start reframing things to be about what you "know" (knowledge) makes you happy and safe vs what you feel makes you happy and safe. The people who always seem to be ahead of the game, surely youve noticed, have the ability to follow advice purely off of it making sense and being reputable. They dont have to wait to see it for themselves, they just place that rational brain above their emotions and feelings. Ideally you have balance, at least in my opinion. But if you havent ever visited that purely rational extreme you cant find that balance, you havent explored the other side yet. This is what ive been told again by sober, successful and clear minded people. Now il use my own words as an addict again. Id like to live in a world that isnt ruled by proof and logic, its not that it doesnt make sense to me its that it isnt what seems real. If it did obviously I wouldnt do drugs, if youve been struggling with this for any decent amount of time you know the good feels are massively outweighed by the bad and safety issues. I think we could live in a world where people know this intuitively, but thats not how things are structured. You have to adapt. Again your as good as dead if you dont behave rationally, and dont place it highest. You can always get back in touch with your emotions and find a healthy balance from that place of cold rationality but you cant do anything at all if you are dead or not in control of yourself.

>>2798 Very good post, you put the thoughts I had in my mind for a while into consise text thanks

>>2814 they sell cbd flower if u can afford it, its got a tiny bit of thc in it

Just stop, it will take an entire month or two to EMOTIONALLY detox for hardcore users. It's the right path, and its the path to self improvement. I've become much more sensitive without weed in my life. I eat healthier now than almost anyone I know (not by choice, I'm a sick person who can't digest toxic food)

OP HERE, been smoking daily, my stomach hurts, my lungs hurts, my head hurts, my eyes hurts, it doesnt even feel good anymore, but somehow i keep doing it, sometimes i feel like an alien is living inside me, also, people acuse me of being too paranoid, sometimes at night i cough what looks like a white tar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3eDxTeDyFw i literally feel sick rn, i don't even feel like finishing my joint

>>3739 sounds like your weed is soykaf. also gross non-organic weed with soykaf in it from the fertilizers makes me unhealthy and paranoid... Not smoking is best though.

fuarrrk this soykaf, i keep relapsing every X hours, this is not funny anymore

Im done with this soykaf

>>3739 fuarrrking stop

>>2788 Take too much Psychedelics with other drugs until you experience a panic attack whilst on the peak of a trip. My waifu experienced this and for a couple of months afterwards whenever smoking weed, she would start having mild anxiety attacks. After abstaining for about 6 months she still smokes weed occasionally, but far less in amount and frequency. She gets the same effect from smoking less than a bong in a spliff, than she used to chain smoking about 1g a day in bongs. It's a hard road but the psychs will teach you to behave yourself ^-^

Where do I get that lighter?

>>4230 I also want to know this.

>>4231 search for custom lighters + country of origin, there's quite a few sites who will do custom designs

>>3739 Are you sure you're smoking weed and not spice or some tainted soykaf? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_cannabinoids

>>4234 Yeah doesn't sound like normal dank. Sounds like that synthetic garbage

This thread feels like some kind of avant-garde performance art. Not saying you're making stuff up, but it's so surreal lmao.

>>3052 Creating a better version.

>>4250 weed is a surreal drug, vroski

>>4349 I think it's all relative. It's surreal to be addicted to anything, and everyone is an addict under consumer hypernormalized technocrat capitalism. Ever been addicted to heroin? Hoo boy, it is like kicking dead whales down the beach but it is an experience to be sure. A very strange one. Kinda miss it, but I dread returning back into that death spiral.

reading this thread pains me because Ive gone through the same recently been smoking weed for 9 years. not daily, but regularly. longest break was 4 months when I was in a place where weed was unattainable (and my job was hard in ways in which having my mind muddled would be disastrous). I was kinda disappointed that my life was not miraculously better at the end of it. I was still drawn to death and socially awkward. I went back to blazing almost immediately what hit me this past summer is how detrimental this habit has been im definitely stupider. my brain is slower, i dont make logical conclusions, i miss stuff, im more forgetful the worst is the social effects though. i cannot be high and talk to people, even friends. my voice sounds bad. i get scared. i make ridiculous assumptions. and they hear it all its hard to stop though. on a nice day with nothing else major to do, why not? it makes the mundane so enjoyable all I know is, I cant keep living like this, cause I will kill myself