Anyone have experiences with buying rcs from these sites?

Looking to get some etizolam, but not really sure which site to use, I live in central europe if that matters. Heard a few people getting ripped off by both sites, so some advice would be appreciated.

I ordered 2g of HEX-EN from smokeys and it got stuck in customs now I'm charged with smuggling~

>>2681 Thats why you always need to use local vendors and a fake name >>2680 >central europe I guess you're polish Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA! if they really ship from europe you should be fine tho

I had no idea there is a word filter for ": ^ )" on here

Wow, Europeans are such cool guys. Eh order drugs by mail and ain't afraid of anything. Have any of you savages heard of such thing called "drop shipping" and "treasure hiding", eh?

>>2684 Well hex-en is still legal in most of europe so lainnon probably is from UK >drop shipping That's more of a "darkweb" market thingy, innit? But to be honest I've personally no need for that. The dutch gov doesn't give a fuarrrk about most of RCs and drugs people take. People even sell their ritalin pills here on a dutch craigslist.

>>2684 >>2685 "drop shipping" is a new term afaik, and it's often a type of pyramid scheme. Sauce: acquaintance got sucked in to one. You can get blacklisted from many darkweb forums/markets for doing it. I have no idea what "treasure hiding" is

>>2686 Yeah, in the non drug world, I believe that's where you sell, say shoes, but you don't own a warehouse full of them. You redirect the orders to your manufacturer, or maybe a third party wholesaler for fufilment. IDK how that relates to drugs. But either way, since lain seems to be suggesting to ship to an empty apartment or a fake name, don't. Order from inside your country, to your own damn name.

A courier has batch of goods on himself, yes looks like a pyramid, but it's the only way for buyer to remain anonymous without any hassle. Do you think they don't x-ray or substance-check internal mail packages? Maybe not on this planet anymore. An order is placed, then courier picks a random spot in predetermined area suitable for customer, hides the goods and sends detailed instructions how to find them. This way you can get the goods in same day, even in span of hours after ordering which is very convenient.

>>2688 In the US, they don't. Full stop. Perhaps different elsewhere.

>>2690 this is false full stop. there is incidents of it happening and plenty of people have things delivered that were broken into and resealed. is it every package? def not. how do they decide which package? couldn't say. my conspiracy theorist in me says they only do it when they want to get somebody anyways, because they keep googling how to build atom bombs or whatever. However logically i'd imagine they simply randomly select a few packages to scan/check every now and then as a security measure that won't lose them a ton of money. The more drugs you get sent the higher chance you'd eventually be randomly checked.

How'd they stop the next unabomber or anthrax mails if US post doesn't scan all packages?

>>2692 there are certain technologies designed to rapidly scan packages, chemical air sensors and other tools can detect minimal ppm of hazard compounds in the air, flagging people to search a particular batch or batches of mail. IIRC opsec spoiled most of the more high profile attacks, and even the last bomber guy who was putting trip wires and mail bombs with fedex got caught because the alphabet soups used cell phone triangulation to see who was in the area around the time the bombs went off and then tracked his phone to the area surrounding all of the attacks. certain suspicious packages are also red flags (a 1995 computer listed as a high value item express overnight shipped etc.) most smugglers tricks do not work well, which is why dealers attempt to stay on the cutting edge of technology by inventing craftier smuggling methods

https://www.fbiic.gov/public/2008/oct/PSCD_Postal_MailPackageHandling.pdf here is how the mail workers detect all kinds of illegal things, also explains the unique tech and infrastructure they use to track packages

>>2687 >IDK how that relates to drugs. some vendors simply take an order and forward it to another vendor, pocketing the extra cash. It's low risk for you, but increases risk for everyone else(adds a link in the security chain) and it raises the prices of goods for no reason. >>2691 it's illegal to open domestic USPS mail without a warrant. Evidence gathered that way will be thrown out of court and probably lead to a mistrial. I don't think they can X-ray them either since that could damage goods inside. Only something totally non-invasive, like the look of the package or the smell(they do use drug dogs), could lead to probable cause. Internationally, yes they will randomly open and search packages, they don't need a warrant for that. It's best to have a multi-stage shipping process in that case. If you have a friend who will never rat and has a clean house, ask him to take your packages and hold them for a week before giving them to you. It's low risk for him since he can claim you never told him what was in the packages(this does work), and it's low risk for you since the cops will probably bust down his door instead, thus giving you time to erase evidence and get the fuarrrk outta dodge.

>>2696 I said "could lead to probable cause" but I'm pretty sure they still need to get a warrant. It'll just be flagged and held until they get the warrant. Beware of excessive shipping times.

>>2696 >>2697 Only a portion of the 2,000 agents of the Postal Service Inspector's Office-it won't say precisely how many-are devoted exclusively to tracking drugs through more than 46 million pieces of daily mail, said postal spokesman John Bruger. Since many of the packages dealers send out in most cases are slated to get to their destinations overnight, law enforcement officials must act quickly to identify them, acquire search warrants, test their contents, reseal the package, make sure it gets to its intended destination on time and then station officers to make an arrest. "There really isn't much time to investigate anything," Bruger said. "The dealers count on these hurdles." >Other express package companies do not face the same obstacles as the Postal Service, since they can open packages they suspect to be carrying illegal narcotics without a warrant. The companies assume ownership of the parcel as soon as it is handed over to them. looks like the POST OFFICE cannot search without a warrant, but FEDEX can because you basically handed your things to another entity that is not the government

>>2686 I think he meant dead drops instead of drop shipping. Dead drop meaning ordering something hidden into a location that you get the coordinates of after payment. Mostly popular in Russia afaik.

>>2696 Fair but look into the accuracy of drug dogs. They can be trained to bark on command and ive seen statistics saying their accuracy is comparable to a coin toss anyways. These were specifically referring to dogs used for roadside stops but id imagine its be universal?

>>2716 If their accuracy would be comparable to a coin toss they'd be likely to sit down(they never bark) at far more stops than they do. This is pretty sus.

>>2719 I found a site called research gate that did a study. I was on the mark with my side mark of it just being roadside stops. "Dogs were equally efficient at searching in well-known vs. unknown rooms with strange (i.e., non-target novelty) odors (83.2% correct indications), but they were less accurate when searching outside or inside cars (63.5% and 57.9% correct indications respectively). "

>>2720 Dang that's actually terrible. Still, if they used such unreliable methods for drug detection they'd open about half of packages, and they don't, so I don't really believe its a problem.

EuroChems is legit afaik. Can't speak for smokeys. With new sites, that don't look like a total scam I usually order a minimum amount of a chemical I already have, so I can evaluate quality and won't lose hundreds of bucks, if stuff is fishy.