Alcohol

Checked the catalog, didn't see an alcohol thread. What are you drinking tonight anon? For me a glass of 2017 South African Shiraz. $7.49 CAD for the bottle and it honestly doesn't taste that bad. Very smooth without overwhelming pepper.

I've developed a real problem with alcohol. I haven't slept sober in about two months. cheap vodka, cheap rum, cheap whiskey. Burning stuff. It's become routine, a walk to the store every day and bringing a bottle home and finishing it. I wake every day feeling like soykaf, throat burning from acid. There's no joy in it anymore, I use it as medication. I only feel normal after half a bottle. Happy after the whole of it. But it's never enough. I simply don't know how else to cope.

>>2547 Go get some benzos.

>>2549 Christ I wish. I used to have a zolpidem habit and I'd give anything to have access to that again. I looked on The Green Road at all their benzos today but honestly I'm an idiot and all the silk road stuff and bitcoin management ect is too much for my dumb ass. If I could find someone in my city who did benzos for cash in hand I'd be rolling in them

The usual. Lainbeard brand, yeast flavored bathtub rotgut.

>>2547 I've never been a heavy drinker but I have had times when I try counting up alcohol free days and I have to go back a week or two. I find it very hard not to have a drink in the evening if I have anything in the house. The most I can do is just to try not to buy alcohol.

>>2544 Big fan of rum here,Rum+Coke (Called Cuba where I live) is my go to soykaf,cheap and does the job otherwise I go for tequilla or vodka

>>2544 >Very smooth without overwhelming pepper Bordeaux regular user here, pepper really? What do you mean by pepper?

>>2562 Pepper is a pretty standard tasting note in Syrah. I'm more familiar with the beer world, but either phenols in the grape, or phenols produced during fermentation could cause pepper like flavors.

This is from a local family winery. Literally just run out of the backroom of a house. Much lighter than I was expecting in terms of colour and taste, but a decent 13.9%.

I've tried some decent whiskey and dark liqours before, but I can't make out actual tastes to them. Drinking it neat all my senses are overwhelmed with the taste and smell of alcohol. How do I actually get to the point of being able to appreciate it?

>>2582 Put a bit of ice cold water in with it, like an oz or something. Or put a lot of ice in and wait for it to melt a bit. Just fill the glass with ice.

>>2582 i love the alcohol taste and how it evaporates in my mouth and does all kinds of funny things to me

Celis White. Greatest wheat beer ever.

i usually drink cheap tall bois or a 40 oz (pref olde english). if im feeling fancy il get henessey or any cognac honestly. I also like wine a lot but not to get drunk off of gives me a nasty headache. i dont drink that often but I have a certain friend who drinks a lot and whenever she comes over she gets me some alcohol which shes been over a lot recently. When I just drink a beer or something that is my sober day, it means im not snorting adderall or coke.

>>2670 I've heard that cheaper alcohol is worse for you than higher shelf soykaf, in the long term. Which doesn't make sense to me because its still just alcohol. Is there truth to this?

>>2947 There's some truth to it, look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congener_(alcohol) That being said, just because it's expensive doesn't mean that it'll be free from congeners that are bad for your health. Whiskey gets a lot of its flavor from congeners, so even the high end stuff will be bad for your health.

It's my birthday party, drinking my sister in law's homemade wine. It's alright, no one's getting extremely drunk off it though.

>>2553 >this Pyrat n Coke on the rocks, a classic n comfy.

nothing right now because 'murica. i can buy tobacco, join the army, vote, and go to prison, but i can't buy alcohol. so i brew my own. currently only doing mead because it's cheap and easy. i've thought about trying to do beer, but it's a lot more complicated for a lot less alcohol content, so i figure why bother.

I hate Soju but the Korean in me won't let me stop drinking it. At least the girl on the bottle is cute

>>3760 I mean keep doing you lainon, but surely someone around you that is over 21 can buy you alcohol.

>>3762 yeah but that entails having social skills. none of my close friends are 21 and asking mere acquaintances to buy me liquor just feels weird.

plus brewing my own is kind of fun. experimenting with different ratios and flavorings is neat, and the satisfaction of drinking something you made yourself is nice.

>>3764 I can see that. Well keep going lainon. The laws on alcohol in America are pretty retarded. I remember being 19 getting fuarrrked up in Korea and then coming home and feeling like I couldn't do anything fun here in the states.

>>2553 yeah, we call it cuba libre too >>2951 oh i love homemade wine... gotta try to make my own one day >>3761 i used to say the same thing regarding our stereotypical drink (it's not national like soju is) btw, i've never tried soju, but i heard the taste is quite strong? like it's actually hard to drink a lot of it. is it true? well, tonight it's not going to be anything because it's 10 pm and that means no alcohol sold till the next morning... i have some cheap wine i save for the next party though, so if i felt like i had to drink there's something... however, it's sweet wine and i usually drink dry... other than that, rum and coke or vodka orange is my usual drink when i am out and don't want to drink beer or cider (yes, i am that guy...) complimented with a few shots of tequila. oh and i love absinth, but sadly there aren't many places that have it around here... and if they do, it's the low alcohol one... :/

>>3766 >>2553 does anyone actually know if the drink name has anything to do with cuba or not?

>>3766 Soju is a lot like a weak vodka. If it's warm it tastes like rubbing alcohol, if it's cold it actually tastes like a fine sake.

>>3770 oh, that sounds fine then... gotta find a shop that sells soju around here. though i haven't had pure vodka in a while... thanks, lainon.

>>3760 I've been home brewing mead for almost 30 years. I still have a few cases of 25+ year old stuff in the cellar. Best tasting drink ever. Skald!

>>3820 I started brewing hard cider when in undergrad school. So- 40 years ago. I still do a 55 gal barrel every year- mostly give to fiends or at parties. I wish I had done that commercially- I would have been at the forefront of the cider boom!

>>2550 You have a low IQ. High alcohol consumption is correlated with a lower IQ. Not to mention that soykaf isn't complicated at all. From a high IQ person, stop drinking nignog. If you must be a drug addict smoke weed and be a high dopamine piece of soykaf.

>>3855 That's a nice idea there, and i'm not the guy who you responded to, but my IQ was measured by a psychologist, in person, with a very long test, and it came out over 120. At the same time i'm drinking very compulsively and can destroy anything with my drinking habits, including my fuarrrking life.

>>3855 In my experience it's often the more intelligent with worse addiction issues... I wouldn't doubt that `consumption' in general across the board is higher for the idiot masses, but that's not the same thing at all. And no, addiction is very complicated and strange. It's not something nonaddicts (like myself) can even begin to comprehend. Rationally knowing and understanding everything your doing does nothing to help a real addict stop their destructive behavior. It really is like kicking dead whales down the beach.

>>2544 I find ginger water, various teas and all other non-alcoholic drinks to be much more fulfilling. You drink a beer - it's harder to do anything, you kinda disintegrate from reality. You drink homemade beverage - you are full of energy and can spend evening researching, doing something for a project or just reading a book. Alcohol is the ultimate waste of your life man.

>>3858 Alcohol consumption is positively correlated with IQ. There is a study on it.

>>3857 >can't buy bitcoin because drunk all the time nigger i bouight bitcoin when I was 12 and learned pgp. It was $5 a coin and no I'm not rich because I was 12. I even lied and said I was investing in it. Serves me right.

>>3859 based non-toxic poster.

>>3855 >>3858 There are a lot of conflicting studies about alcohol and IQ. Alcohol and IQ is a very complicated situation. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23443272 I like mimosa and bellini for brunch. I like irish coffee, dark rum and extra dry whites too.

>>3890 I see, so moderate drinking can also be high IQ, but binge drinking is likely positively correlated with a lower IQ.

Geez, all those low IQ authors, artists, philosophers and world leaders who drank heavily throughout history... what a bunch of dum dums. It all makes sense now.

>>3890 Alcohol is an NDMA receptor antagonist. NDMA is involved in memory formation. So prolongued alcohol, or drugs like DXM, and ketamine will worsen memory. I think there has been some suggesting alcohol improves memory temporarily in case of events that took place prior to drinking due to the brain going into some loop that makes it better retain info but I am unsure how true that is.

>>3893 > I am unsure how true that is. I'd like to see this data, as my own extensive field research suggests otherwise. The frequent blows to the head may have been a factor as well.

>>3763 We did ask homeless people as children when we wanted to get drunk. But making your own booze sounds way more fun and less beta. How did you start making your own booze? What was the first drink you made? Do you have any safety measures to not kill yourself with methanol?

>>3911 What? Lain isn't making moonshine, Lain.

>>3911 meadanon here. i think i was just really into vikings at some point and learned that mead is hella easy to make. forgot for a few years, but then when i eventually actually took an interest in drinking i remembered and decided to make some. first batch was great, but it was tiny and me and my family disposed of it in a single evening. second batch was way bigger and initially pretty good but something fugged up and it went bad after a few months. i got frustrated and didn't touch it for a good few months, but started a new batch recently, the pic i posted. should be ready within the next week or so. >safety measures just the components in a jug with a balloon over the top, placed in a different room that's more similar to a wine cellar. all good and perfectly safe. just remember to sanitize sanitize sanitize everything and i mean everything that may come in contact with the brew. there's a million and one guides out there for how to do your first batch. just pick whichever strikes your fancy, or suits your supplies/financial situation best. happy brewing lainon!

Sake, typical of the absolute weeb dink that I am

>>3760 because brewing beer is fun. It's fairly easy to make a drinkable 8-12% beer too. Just don't bother with bottling or anything like that. Go straight for a homebrew keg. This reduces labor by 60%+ while improving the quality of the final product. Also works perfect with cider.

>>3911 If you distill at the right temp (higher) basically no methanol will pass over. Plus ethanol consumption blocks the metabolism of small amounts of methanol so it's nothing to worry about unless you really fuarrrk it up. Do proper research, there are plenty of good guides.

>>4005 I like bottling. But damn it you're right. Especially for beginners (the people least likely to keg), kegging will reduce labor and lead to better beer. OTOH, I would figure out fermentation temp control (even if it's just a water bath to stabilize temps, or finding a yeast strain you like that is tolerant of a large range of temps) before worrying about kegging. I think ferm temp is the most important thing, more important to having an enjoyable beer than anything done on the hot side. Hot side process improvements are good for making a consistent beer but you can fuarrrk up a mash or boil like 50 different ways and still make a fine tasting beer.

For me, it's the true brazilian cheap wine.

>>5342 This honestly isn't bad for the price but I hate that it has no aroma whatsoever.

The best value the shop had for the night. Maqués de Caranó. "medium bodied, bramble fruit flavours with spicy oaky notes on the finish" apparently. Just started watching serial experiments lain and am enjoying it. What's everyone watching right now?

alcohol is for bootlickers cannabis is the drug of choice for true cyber niggas upvote/reply to this post if u a tru cybernigga who smoke the weed erry day

I don't drink often except for special occasions. I'll drink to feel a buzz but that's it since I fuarrrking hate being drunk and later on hung over. I used to hate beer but I found a few craft and import ones that I enjoy drinking. Anything more than 1 pint hurts my tummy. I really like rum, brandy, and bourbon. They don't hurt my stomach and can make some good mixed drinks. Thoughts on wine particularly goon bags? They are really big down under and they seem pretty cyberpunk and space age to me.

>>5927 >they seem pretty cyberpunk and space age to me When I was a punk we actually called it a space bag. When it's empty you can inflate it part way an use it as a comfy pillow. Also some people I knew would fill them with water and leave them in the sun, then use it as a hobo shower.

>expect no mead users >find mead user This is going better than expected

Vodka. Just vodka. No mixers, don't be a baby. Keep it in the freezer and put it in a glass or just take it from the bottle. I got so sick of the huge consumerist array of various sugary and otherwise terrible-tasting booze. So sick of IPA bros with their skunky, awful, weak beer. Wine is full of crap that sets off histamines and makes your face swell up and gives you heartburn. I'm not gonna do some cocktail fandango or shake some laundry list of ingredients around in a little tin can full of ice. It's a drug delivery system; after a while, you learn to just keep it simple. The eastern Europeans got it right a long looong time ago. I don't really get drunk anymore, I just maintain a nice, low, steady buzz through life. I don't take the edge off, I keep the edge off. Getting wasted is something I now kind of look down upon. Keep your ѕһіt together at least.

South African shiraz is not cyb

mostly beer but I also am a fan of hard alcohol my favorite is brandy in hot chocolate

>>5938 Brandy in hot chocolate sounds delightful, I might have to try that. Speaking of hot drinks I got a Hot Toddy kit one Christmas (Hot whiskey drink) and it was quite nice, though not enough to make one too often. The mug however (The Famous Grouse whiskey brand) was gigantic and I loved it dearly until it broke. I'm a sucker for oversized mugs whether it's for coffee or booze.

>>5932 it kinda upset me seeing all these sweet loving tongues around alcol tredhs .it should be valued its unique taste and the buzz that it bring it shouldnt remember me of a f soda. anyway i really hate sweet things

Scotch and water. Purists can suck my benis, I fill the cup from the tap after pouring in two shots of Ballantine's.

klonopin all day, Guinness to start the night then I progressed into vodka lemonades with more kpin, got too fuarrrked and took some adderall, idk if i took 2 i thin i did but i cant remember fuarrrk life fuarrrk everythang

>>5932 Fusel alcohol in beer and wine makes them more sedative and therefore more euphoric.

>>5969 Lol this sounds like my life too. I just wanna sleep forever

>>6050 Euphoric my ass. I'm already sleepy enough

>>3768 IIRC the popularity started with a "cuba libre" which was popularized by possibly? cuban expats. I actually learned about this a few years back, but too foggy to 'member. I think a true "cuba libre" also contains lime, and it has some significance with Cuban culture. >>3855 Eccentric geniuses also drank themselves to death for fear of the real world™ or their inability to cope with society see >>3857 Do any artlains drink absinthe? Pic related is usually what I drink, but I would be open to more recs for especially mixed drinks and recipes

>>3859 As someone growing up in an anti-alcoholic household and originally keeping to those ideals that was always my argument against it as well. However, once I turned of age I figured I would try beer just for the sake of trying. I don't go to parties and I don't think I would ever drink socially. However now I will have a beer perhaps every two weeks at home and I make sure to set conditions beforehand, such as not getting drunk. I mainly use it as a mood setter, for instance looking at the stars while a bit tipsy or a bit euphoric is quite a treat honestly, but it really is a form of escapism at the end of the day. It can be a waste of life, but only if you allow it to be.

Alcohol is soykafe *picture unrelated*

this is going to sound sort of weird but I usually go months or even years at a time without drinking and then when I do finally have a drink or two I feel bad for drinking not gonna lie though, a little booze now and then is nice. Just dont get drunk since that's stupid.

>>2950 >Brandy, rum and red wine have the highest amount of congeners, while vodka and beer have the least. Wtf, so drinking vodka has a lighter hangover effect compared to drinking red wine? This doesn't make any sense to be honest.

>>3893 Idk man, I think I've been drinking one or two beers per week for a lot of time and I have a really good memory. I remember lots of events that my friends tend to forget or sometimes they even don't remember they happened at all.

>>6058 >Do any artlains drink absinthe? It's almost impossible to find the real thing.

>>6328 the same amount of alcohol in wine comes in a hell of a lot more water if dehydration is your main problem, that would explain that, as for any other substances(vodka is basically null), I don't see any reason to assume that they would make things better.

>>6058 >>6330 I have partook in the green færie....well sort of. Technically Absente isn't really absinthe because it has sugar added beforehand making it a liqueur instead of a liquor but that's such a moderate difference. It had wormwood in the version I had so it should count. It has an interesting intoxication that is moderately mentally stimulating so I can see why artists liked absinthe in the past. Interesting flavour profile. Not something that would pair well with food except maybe a biscotti.

so what is the most cyberpunk drink / cocktail ? for some reason I think bottom shelf vodka + energy drinks, or budget canned beers other ideas ?

>>6522 there was a lain who had a story about drinking in a back alley bar run by Asians that was going to close forever for an unknown reason and so he just enjoyed the company of the staff there for the night.but I think rare black market alcohol might be pretty cyb

>>6523 that sounds exactly like one of my favorite bars/club that closed down recently in my city (to our great despair), the only one to host hardcore techno parties, all kinds of freaks, drug addicts and dealers would attend... i miss those times

>>6524 Shit, I miss those times too. I think everyone's favorite weird bars have closed this year

>>6522 Lao khao, codeine syrup, and amphetamine salts shaken with ice and served in a tin mess kit mug? Idk man

>>6522 k so I found tschunk, a cocktail w/ club-mate and dark rum, famous at CCC congress and w/ german hackers

I take benzos, but they must not be enough. Nightcaps and shots every now and then tend to help my executive function, but only around eight hours after I take my meds in the morning. I still keep to drinking no more than three days a week, only after 3pm, and never when I'm already feeling negative. Anyone else "self-med" with alcohol? Feels kinda strange saying that, since I'm used to people using the term "self-medding" with actual "proper medication", but that seems to be what I'm doing. Is booze a topical GABAergic muscle relaxant, or am I just coping? >whiskey is gooooood

>>5931 Oh good, I thought I was the only one checking for mead posts.

>>6728 >>5931 mead is fuarrrking lovely. i advise trying kurpiowski, one of apis's more specialized releases. it's black currant mead from poland hhh <3 so good

>>6727 A man of taste i see. Seeing as im poor i cant afford to booze regularly so i take it like a man and suck down my depression until it consumes me and explodes violently one day. Recently i bought some swiss cherry liquors, they are quite good, i really love cherry.

I've been getting cheap sake from the liquor store down the street. It's pleasantly smooth for how high the alcohol content is. I like gin for the same reason, although I usually mix that with something.

Kirkland spiced rum + lemonade is my goto. Don't bash it til you try it anons. Where does an americlap need to go to find mead? I've never had it before.

>>6736 Not ameri, but it shouldn't be hard to find online and you get extra choice. Any cities close enough to do cheap delivery? There could also be some at local markets depending on where you are.

Recommend me some good vodka? I have around 4L of Finnish vodka lying around, but I want to try something new.

>>6738 Good vodka isn't worth it. Belvedere or Chopin for instance are great but are hardly worth their price considering you can hardly taste them on their own let alone drowned in orange juice, tonic water, vermouth or cordial. Buy something cheap but decent like Sobieski or Luxusowa and save your money for something worth spending money on (like hookers or ETFs)

>>6741 Agreed, fancy vodka is a scam. Taaka or white wolf are honestly pretty great. Neutrality isn't that hard to achieve, just stay away from like skol. Anyone showing off a bottle of grey goose was dropped on their head

>>6738 >>6742 Oh and I always have a soft spot for Monopolowa in my heart for some reason

>>6741 High end vodka is meant to be served only chilled lightly because getting it to freezer temps covers up the flavours. You also are supposed to have it straight and neat not as a mixer. Though the flavour profile differences are pretty subtle so depends how honed in your taste buds are. It's not my thing either.

>>6742 What they call "vodka" where I live is just some grain alcohol of some kind. All the booze here costs about the same and there is little variance in taste. I've had real vodka once or twice (real meaning it was actually vodka, not meaning "fancy") and couldn't believe the difference.

Hermes Violets. I managed to get some a few years ago. I can't find any sellers since November, outside of a few yahoo.co.jp auctions. It's lovely.

I dunno where to ask so I'll ask here, does anybody know why wine gives me a headache while beer makes me feel happy? I know this may sound strange or atypical but every time I drink wine, even a few glasses, just gives me a low to mild (depending on the situation) headache and nothing more. On the contrary when I drink beer, even the most heavy ABV ones, turns me into a happily dizzy state. Why is that?

At the end of 2020. Im stuck in a heavy lockdown zone. I cant believe Im saying it. Sounds like a sci fi scenario we would laugh at only a year ago. So Im drinking irish coffees and ale. I hope Ive got enough. >>2547 I cant judge but thats way more than I drink. Anything over a bottle of wine or 4 cans of beer and you are in potentially body damaging territory. You should try swapping out the habit for CBD. It stops you craving drugs and drink for some reason.

>>7339 I dont know but I find Im not getting headaches atm cause Im having soluble vit B many mornings. That helps a lot.

>>2544 the whole world is of an exuberant colour lain isn't it?

>>2544 I've stopped drinking completely, I've gone on and off the idea for years but I've finally just decided to throw in the towel with booze. I can hazily remember weeks, more like entire months of my life repeating the same motions of getting up being hungover, slouching downstairs, buying a case of beer and crawling back upstairs to down the full thing while staring at a monitor, half glad to be numb and half fearing the inevitble explosion of misery that was always waiting for me once I passed that critical stage of drunkeness, sharper are the memories of lying under a bridge freezing to death and choking down a bottle of whiskey toying with the idea of jumping into the river, trying to ride a bicycle drunk and nearly being instantly killed by a train, putting my first through a wall in a fit of rage, hundreds of mornings waking up after a "good" night out feeling like soykaf and wondering what shameful soykaf I'd got up to the night before, what lies I'd told to whom, what gang of retards I'd gone out with that time. Even years after I'd mostly stopped that kind of thing and became a more "moderate" drinker, I was amazed how tight the grip alcohol had on me was mentally even though I wasn't addicted physically, how conniving my own mind could be in convincing me I deserved a drink, or that I could only have a couple and not have more, and blowing of training etc. to drink was a great idea, and I think the biggest one is that I'd be boring in social situations without alcohol, that it made me more pleasent to be around, when really all it changed about my behaviour was make me more loudly uninteresting, followed by the idea that alcohol somehow treats stress and anxiety when it really justs pushes back dealing with their causes by however long it takes to sober up. Only once you stop it do you realise how fuarrrking literally everywhere it is, it sounds stupid, even being interested in addiction already and spending a lot of time wandering around taking places in, I didn't really get how all pervasive alcohol was until I stopped taking it and suddenly had to find myself turning it down every fuarrrking day and having other people look at me like I'm the one that's acting irrationally by taking issue with its presence. Alcohol must be the must destructive, misery inducing thing I've come across in life aside from my odd encounter with heroin addicts and increasingly spice heads, walking into shops and going into the homes of people I like and trust and seeing literal poison in colourful bottles being treated as if its harmless for grownups and anyone that struggles to manage using it is the problem is uniquely infuriating. Rant over

Anyone getting drunk tonight? I'm having some beer and vodka

>>8176 I wish I had something here... have a fun night lainon...

>>8176 Had some tullamore dew but going easy because I'm flying to PA tomorrow. Gonna be a messy weekend up in yankville.

Going to some friends tonight, I'll be bringing some Tsingtao. It's a really nice chink rice beer, if you haven't tried it I can recommend it.

>>3760 lmao when I was 15 I used to buy cigs and booze on the biggest supermarket in my town, all they did was ask "are you 18?" and I just nodded my head. You could buy booze anywhere, the only place that asked for IDs was this big liquor store because parents started complaining about it.

I almost exclusively drink E&J brandy and cheap white wine. Funny thing though, when I was broke I would go to the corner store near me to get pints of korbel for like 4 bucks. I absolutely hate it but brandy and cognac are the only things that dont give me a headache. Apparently though its become like my standard tab almost with this guy, itl be on the counter as im walking up. He waits and sees if I walk straight up to the counter at which point he gets it, if I walk around a bit and look around he will ask. Today some money cleared and I wanted to treat myself to some hennessey but lo and behold I go up and that fuarrrking korbels sitting there lmao. I dont have it in me to be like I hate that soykaf man, plus sometimes its appreciated as it really is all I can afford. I appreciate being remembered even if its for my times as a broke alcoholic, and so I just humble myself and drink that nasty soykaf like I used to. Another funny time I was with my long time friend and we walk in and he goes "the usual?" and slaps it down. She already knew about my drinking id always come over to her place with a pint in my pocket but we had a laff about it. Like shed never been in there with me and what if she was my date or new partner or some soykaf and im trying to make a good impression and he just goes "the usual?" and slaps the cheapest plastic bottle of brandy down. Funny guy he makes my day sometimes.

>>2544 Is there a term for when you feel more awake (like with coffee) after drinking alcohol? Is that a thing?

just drank some vodka with iced tea :]

I'm drinking some Brut Dargent (sparkling Chardonnay from France that's cheaply available in my country). It's pretty good, very easy to drink, not overy rich in flavor though. I think I'll stick with 4€/L German white whines (Riesling and Müller Thurgau) when I want that sort of flavour). I've also been drinking a lot of whiskey lately.

>>2544 I've had 2 bottles of rum since Tuesday.

>>8506 What kind of rum did you drink?

>>8451 It would be called a paradoxical reaction.

>>8451 Do you feel more awake or are you just more awake. sleep is usually the last thing I want once ive dranken beyond a certain point, but Il feel tired. I just am not in actuality.

>>2544 I make my own soykafty homerew Kilju. It's fun to make and cheap as hell, sometimes it's even almost drinkable. Gets you drunk right good in any case

>>2547 Research a naltrexone prescription. Another thing I've heard can help dramatically is Ibogaine. Please be cautious and research ibogaine properly before considering it.

Its probably a bad sign when I find it hard to go more than three or four days without a drink right?

making my own apple liquor this year. I might update in the guerilla warfare thread or here about how it goes

>>9147 uerilla gardening*

drinking red wine meant for food does not taste well and is harder to drink than vodka, but the taste doesnt linger for too long lain signing off

>>9138 Probably. You're at a good stage to practice willpower in, just don't let it get worse.

>>9166 Well I lasted 7 days, back on the sauce now. Life is too loud, my thoughts are too loud, I just want it to go away

Alcohol makes a fine servant, but a terrible master.

What mead recipes do people like? I tried JAOM and hated it, just tasts like spices.

I drink about once a month or so on average, and usually no more than a bottle of wine or one-two cocktails. I really enjoy the taste of different Beers but drinking it seems to make me miserable, so I refrain from it. Never fell into the alcoholism trap, despite having had my first drink when I was like 13. It's probably habituation, but I do actually enjoy the taste and finer aspects of it, I would probably make a good barkeeper in some subdued speakeasy. Not big on party/binge drinking, I'm too self-conscious and it usually ends up in misery and awkwardness. But seriously, what causes people to have a very negative mood when drinking specific spirits, but not when drinking others? I can understand my thing with beer -I would assume that it does something to my estrogen levels or somesuch- but there's really not that much difference between different Spirits, purely chemically, so how come people frequently say "I can't drink Vodka, Tequila, or XYZ, it messes me up too much."?

fuarrrk I'm itching for some booze so bad right now, day 3 without any and Wednesday is usually my breaking day, I want a beer I definitely have a problem this is so damn embarrassing >>9419 It isn't anything chemical usually, its the situations the different things are consumed in and the manner of consumption and the individuals appetite for that type of alcohol. Someone who drinks 10 beers over the course of a night is going to have a different experience to someone who drinks a pint of straight vodka at the start of the night then only maybe has one more drink during, even though the total amount consumed is technically similar, the effects aren't because of the changed delivery method, window and the mindset that goes with doing something like that. People that drink vodka & redbull or rum and coke etc. are also mixing depressants with stimulants which is to drinking just alcohol what a speedball is to heroin I've never had a bad night on whisky for example, but its purely because I don't ever really drink a lot of it when I am drinking the taste gets sickening after one or two measures, whereas beer if the night is short or I don't have much available I can have a good night, but if the night is long I'll nose dive, because I'm the type of drinker that doesn't really slow down as they get drunker. Vodka and Absinthe are like oblivion in a bottle to me, my sister and some of my friends can have an easy time with them, but I invariably destroy myself with them if I have more than a double of Vodka, I have drank a pint of absinthe before on a bet and felt nothing while doing it then been paralytic and blackout drunk for the next 14 hours. I couldn't have done the same kind of abuse with beer or wine because I would have been drinking so much liquid with so many calories in it that I would have vomited from overloading my stomach or just decided to stop before I got close. Beer I think produces bad nights because of how calorific it is and the carbonation, it makes you feel heavy and flushed and bloated, and because individual beers are quite weak you don't treat it with the respect it requires

>>9439 I know this is a hard sell, but you sound like me, and AA ended up being what I needed.

>>9441 I don't drink every night, I'm just caught in this pattern of managing 3-5 days sober then drinking again, then trying again. I was severely tempted to go to the off licence after I made that post and get a 6 pack but I went and got a bottle of diet coke instead, for tonight I am in control. I've managed a year completely sober before, I can make it on my own, I don't like the cult nonsense that comes with AA

As a french guy, this thread hurt

Day 4 is going slightly better, still haven't drank but I did do the yeah I'm just going to the petrol station at 11pm for no reason don't worry about it thing again, got a disgusting irn bru knock off this time There are no less than 21 different off licences and other locations that sell alcohol on my mostly rural drive home and it has been mentioned unprompted in 5 different conversations I've been part of today why do I only notice how ultra prevalent booze is when I'm trying not to have it?

Anyone here use a wine co-op?

I really really *want* to like booze but I just can't stand the taste of alcohol. I end up drinking stuff like local hard ciders from local orchards, since I already love apple cider. Here in Maine the Rickers Hill Orchard hard ciders are amazing. I found a "ale" called Blue Moon that tastes like bread, so that's nice. I kind of wish I could I drink booze like an adult, but nearly everything I try just tastes like paint thinner or anti freeze. A friend let me try something called "gin" and it tastes like Pine-Sol bathroom cleaner.

friends, please advise me on what alcohol to buy my father for his birthday. Neither of us has much exposure to hard liquor besides my favored vodka and a bottle of tequila we brought home from vacation some years ago.

>>9447 Well I'm off the rails hard, guess I do need real help Maybe easier just to blow my brains out

>>9454 I've tanked phenibut withdrawal so I get at least a bit of how you feel lainon. It is not wrong to seek help. If you won't go to a hospital to get something like gabapentin, maybe try l-theanine. It won't make you feel all better but for me it took some of the edge off of withdrawal.

>>9454 >>9456 Also, if you have anyone you can talk to, any friends or family, or even an IRC server or some soykaf. Just talking with people helps you regain perspective. Hell talk to someone you hate, just don't talk about your withdrawal.

I can't drink more than one dollar worth of alcohol. I'm unemployed and if I don't win the next derby I'm going to sell off my lain DVDs.

>>9456 >>9457 Thanks, I don't think I am physically addicted except maybe the early stage cravings, I don't get shakes or anything Yet I'm stuck in this compulsive behavior loop and its really hard to break, I have way too much time alone when its really tempting to just get numb. I can't really talk to my family, they all drink, some are worse than me and none of them took me seriously the last time I got sober, I did join some forums about it though. I wish alcohol use was viewed like cannabis or tobacco use was here, I'd have all the family and work support I'd want to get off but instead I'm the weird one for not wanting it. Day 3 again now, just have to get through Friday and Saturday really then the 2nd week will be easier

Well none of you care but I have nowhere else to talk about this so fuarrrk you I relapsed on day 8. I was feeling OK, a bit worried about how the girl I've been talking to (the first one in about 3 years) was taking a bit long to get back to me but otherwise felt fine but then I was driving somewhere to pick up my brother and I remembered something that happened like 6 year ago and suddenly I felt lower than dirt, like a worm or a piece of soykaf. All of the little happiness in me has drained out, I got drunk again and I'm just slumped here wishing something would happen where I wouldn't have to be alive anymore but without having to cause my family pain, I hate myself I understand why other people hate me but I don't deserve this, every time I try to be better it hurts and I don't have a way out, I don't even have anyone I can talk to other than randoms on the internet I just want this to be over

>>9510 Lainon I care about you at least, though I can't really do soykaf from here. Please get some professional help if you can. Addressing depression with alcohol is a really bad hole to go down

Pic related is the nectar of the gods, i cant drink anything else anymore because it pales in comparison to it. A fellow leaf like you can probably find it somewhere. Its like 2x for 6.50$.

Any recc's for a neat drinking vodka that's decently available in the UK/Ireland that doesn't taste like piss? I usually get Stoli but I'm looking try other things as I've noticed it can be a little harsh if you drink enough of it, Smirnoff is fine but it literally tastes like nothing to me which I know is how Vodka is supposed to taste according to some old definition but I prefer something with a little more presence and flavour and for some reason its only 37.5% alcohol now which means it doesn't freeze as well Grey goose is like drinking nail varnish remover with some artificial fruit flavour in it, I have a bottle of the Haku Japanese rice vodka on the shelf now for Christmas but it is quite pricey and according to the one person I've spoke to that's actually had it before its good but not much like vodka at all. The only readily available ones are Absolut and Russian Standard, despite how many polski skleps there are near me I can't seem to get any polish vodka

>>9715 taaka stolichnaya any bottom shelf dry filtered vodka

>>9730 Yeah I usually get Stoli, I was just looking to try some other types but the selection in my area is pretty limited. The Haku has been opened, have to say its pretty good, its got a nice cotton mouthed feel to it on drinking and the taste is pleasant, a little sweet with a slight throat burn, not sure its worth 2x the price of Stoli though

>>9735 I have made the mistake of purchasing a bottle of Absolut Vanilla flavoured vodka and now I'm going to have this disgusting trash in my fridge staring at me until I manage to choke all of it down I also posted this in the wrong thread initially

>>6527 I love this soykaf, club mate on it's own is also pretty nice.

>>6522 IMO, just canned beer. It's a common misconception that cheap beer is bad, but here in Germany, i have seen plenty of middle area and expensive beers that taste horrible (Guinness is one example, that stuff tastes like plain bitterness and nothing else). Lidl (German Discounter chain, dunno if it's international) has a very nice beer, that is literally bottom shelf, it's the cheapest beer they got (25 ct per can, 330ml), but really not bad. >>9715 You're right, vodka is not supposed to taste like anything but ethanol and water. Goes down easily, doesn't make your head hurt, and disinfects wounds when nothing else is there. The 37% thing is a western thing, real vodka has to be 40% vol., not more, not less. For taste, enjoy it like Russians do: at the table, with buddies, and nice, strong food. Black bread, pickles, fish, smoked sausage, smoked or salted meat, that's where the flavour comes from. Russians don't drink fancy spirits, they drink vodka, literally just water and alcohol.

>>9912 >Guinness tastes like plain bitterness Don't get it from a tin, get it draught at a pub, and not a pub that nobody goes to, one that's high traffic so the line is worked regularly >t.Irish I don't know how someone can drink pils and find Guinness too bitter, it tastes like dark chocolate and coffee to me

>>9913 >dark chocolate and coffee two things i dislike. if i drink coffee, i drink it with lots of milk. >tin no difference. I drank guiness from a can, guiness from a pub, tastes the same to me. As i said, bitterness kills it for me.

>>2544 I am drinking a pint of "Rince Cochon", which literally translates to "hogwash". Don't be fooled by the name, it's actually quite good, and not just by cheap canned beer standards. It's cheap, tastes good and gives a pleasant buzz, I can't really ask for more. I'll have to try some south african wine when I get the chance, some fine vineyards near cape town as I've heard. I've enjoyed all the foreign(italian, californian and australian) wines I've tasted. Granted, I'm french, so I might've been somewhat spoiled when it comes to wine. >>9913 Getting it from a pub would require revealing my identity and part of my medical record, so that's not really an option. Best I could do is getting a keg, but I don't have room for that in my fridge, as much as I enjoy Guinness and other dark beers like Chimay, which is quite a bit stronger in taste and alcohol content.

>>9928 Pic related has been my go to for a while now, has a very smooth taste in my opinion.

I haven't had a drink in a week and I can't tell if I want one now because I want one or because I'm bored.

>>9934 I'm glad I didn't drink then but I definitely think I'm drinking tonight, listening to my colleague slowly asphyxiate himself on chocolate and pierogis for 10 hours has made me almost murderously angry Anyone else drinking tonight?

Glenlivet 12 year single malt.

Any recommendations for wine? Tried sangria, sauvignon blanc, moscato, and a bunch of other wines whose names I don't remember. Each has left me baffled as to how people can drink it with meals. I like the taste of straight vodka, but wine makes me nearly vomit.

>>10184 any notes on what bottles/brands you've been trying? what do you like about vodka?>>10184