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I dont know if any of you have heard of this. Its a vapo inhaler containing 250 mg of a legal meth analogue. Never done meth but yes it certainly feels like adderall just a bigger increase in sex drive and less focused. Ive heard some meth users say its closer to meth than adderall. The analogue in question is propylhexedrine. In the US you can find these almost anywhere that has a cold aisle. No age restriction, a 10 year old could buy it. And im not hyping it up cause I have no reason to which il get to in a minute, but it does feel like 50-60 mg of adderall. However the downside. 3 hours of good fun (or obsessive masturbating), then 3 hours of "im still feeling good but oh god its wearing off and im starting to feel the comedown". And then the comedown is what makes this soykaf probably the least addictive stimulant ive tried despite being one of the strongest. Mood is crashed, you ache, you cant sleep but can no longer focus, nothing is fun or interesting the rest of the day. Following days you will be off. In addition it is horribly vasoconstrictive. Even more than meth itself ive heard. Id be scared of taking two at once, and of more than two a day. Even just one causes chest pain for me, equivalent to like a 2 day adderall binge. The price is the saving grace I guess. 4-7$. If you cut up the cotton inside or mix it in a drink and space it out you can get a adderall like focus with a lesser crash. Im just curious about others experiences with it, and thoughts. Ive cut all other amphetamines out and to be honest am ashamed im eating fuarrrking vapoinhalers but the comedown being worse than the comeup is a positive thing for me as it prevents me from doing it far more than when I had access to adderall.

>>2532 3h does seem a long time for fapping LMAO. However it's a short time if you consider to use it as an actual productive stim. >Mood is crashed, you ache, you cant sleep but can no longer focus How much are you using? Because those side effects you describe does seem pretty harsh and considering that meth is pretty neurotoxic it can be pretty dangerous for you.

I bought a bunch of expired Benzedrex once. Threw most of it away. I can see why someone with a drug problem might like it, but even just the lavender and menthol are enough to put me off of it. Some people do an extraction, but I don't know what the yield is.

>>2535 Yeah the taste is terrible but not unberable for me. Recently ive been being an idiot and cutting up the cotton and swallowing it washed down with anything strong tasting instead of letting it sit in liquid. Apparently the cotton can get stuck in intestined. Ive heard about HCL extractions to get a powder. If you just want to let it sit in something id reccomend dr pepper. I also have an idea that if you let it sit in an acidic drink but with the lid ventilated/off the menthol/lavender would mostly evaporate while the propylhexedrine would bind to the citric/phosphoric acids and create salts that remain in liquid.

>>2532 I've used prop a few times. If you look at the structure, it is literally identical to meth except the phenyl ring is replaced by cyclohexane. Afaik (this is all hearsay, never used meth) the effects are pretty damn in line with meth's. The vasoconstriction is much worse. More neurotoxic, etc. I'll note here that amphetamine neurotoxicity is generally centered around the ability to derive pleasure from life, so abuse will make you depressed, not retarded. Extractions are very doable and very nice. Dump cottons into a non polar organic solvent such as hexanes. Skim the nasty oils off the top. Mix remaining hexanes with acidic water (use cement etcher or another source of HCl, diluted significantly). Shake vigorously. The acid will change propylhexedrine from organic soluble freebase form to water soluble chloride salt or some such thing. Skim the hexanes and toss. Pour water on a tray and let it air dry, scrape happy crystals off the bottom. Yield is decent. If you want to snort/inject product be sure to pH test it or you will fuarrrk your nose/veins. Recommend 2-4+ inhalers per run. Titrate doses upward over 2-3 hour gaps the first time since purity is unknown. As for the effects, I agree with the 3 hours flying 3 hours falling 12-24 hours of blegh mentioned by OP. Usually I start drinking heavily at hour 10-14 to put myself to sleep. I use 1/2 - 1 inhaler, never more (did 1.5 once and had horrific vasoconstriction and pulse, was a bad time). Also if you want to use it and don't want to do a proper extraction: - stretch cotton without damaging into a long tangled mess - shove it in the bottom of a glass - pour in enough lemon juice / vinegar to cover it plus a bit (Citric acid / acetic acid, you want it to be acidic to help pull the freebase off the cotton into solution as a salt) - wait at least 1 hour, at most 24, and chug Quit eating cotton, it's fuaarking horrible for you AND less efficient.

>>2539 Just adding on photos of structure for reference. The one with double-bonds in the 6 member ring is meth, the other is propylhexedrine.

>>2539 I didnt realize it was less efficient. Helpful soykaf though you have here, its near impossible to find a in depth extraction guide online.

>>2541 Glad I could help. Well, the efficiency is just my guesswork. If you are swallowing non-digestible cotton clumps it seems likely that some prope will be trapped at the center. At the very least, I'm guessing your absorption rate will be much slower / discontinuous, leading to a weaker and broader peak? Also, for a higher yield you can repeat the step where you add acidic water to the hexanes and shake vigorously, then pool all water at the end for drying step.