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What do you think about tramadol 800mg some peoples say thats not drugs or any soykaf like this.

i like it, 800 mg sounds retardly too high and pointless. it has a celing effect so 300+ is a waste and possiy risking a seizure unless you have benzos or pregab. i like doing one then another then another but all at once does the job very well most times.

>>18510 I did around 300 for a while it dont do the same effect now this is why i take more every time and need for effect even if it’s dangerous

>>18511 oh man i think i know what you mean but even then i thought it becomes futile to pass 400mg mark. my mates mam had a seizure with her eyes rolled into the back of her head like undertaker when he found her but she was fine in less than an hour after an ambo was called (he broke the rule lol). have you tried odsmt? that sounds better but i hear its a lot harder to source. would absolutely love to get aff the kratom wee some tramadol, even one gets me happy like normal person happy not im high on drugs happy

>>18513 Yeah but hard to stop ts, and odsmt are even dangerous maybe not even the tramadol i will try to stop a little bit and go back to 500mg

>>18516 yeah i bet. how do you dose the 800mg? thats like a quarter of a box

>>18517 800mg its around 3/4 1=50mg and there is only 20 in a box

>>18518 i see, where im from they prescribe them by 100 per box usually in hard yellow and green capsules.

>>18509 I need more I don’t have any box of tramadol or any anxio left

>>18516 O-DSMT is as safe, if not safer, than Tramadol. It's also the main active metabolite of Tramadol so there's not much to worry about aside from residual solvents if the RC seller is not up to par.

>>18521 deffo safer than tram. still has relatively same risks if abused but the seizure threshold is higher and i think has less stimulation

Oxy is better than tramadol, always I mean always I had that feeling of "I will get a seizure right fuarrrking now" from taking tram, even after 50 or 100mg (I usually took it in few 50mg doses throughout the night), only xannax could make me calmer and let me catch some nodds. to be honest tapentadol is better than tramadol as well, much chiller. And oxy has nothing of jitteriness, feeling in your head of being scared and overwhelmed, feeling of impending seizure/doom. However oxy had much soykaftier nodds (never liked to take more than 20mg through the night) I remember happy times on odsmt btw many years ago, high as kite on English lessons in my private school, I liked to buff it and play banjo kazooie - it was very very chill

>>18510 I have large tolerance right now and would stagger 700mg over 6 hours, starting with 100mg and then 50mg every 30 minutes. I could get some nods out of it always at later part of the high, since it takes time to metabolize them and active metabolite stack up due to longer half life. Staggering can also get around the dirty SNRI effect people has described, if I take 300mg in one hour I would feel dirty/ Sadly The Tramadol is the only thing available in Japan I live, even if I was to violate the law, they don't even sell anything decent. Kind of funny how it's scheduled in United states but you can get it by simply ordering it online in here. along with few others like Pregabalin, mixes well with Tramadol.

>>18509 800mg is above the seizure risk zone don't do 800mg over 250mg is wasting tramadol and unhealthy >>18511 this is called "how 2 get a seizure and waste drugs 101" take a 6 month tolerance break and do something else with yourself you can also look into misc. drugs to reduce tolerance buildup ala DXM

>>18707 I've been taking 800mg each weekend and still haven't had a seizure, I mix it with pregabalin too

I actually saw my mom do some weird stuff from tramadol she was given. I think she accidentally took more I think but that would have only been 75mg and had been using it daily for a week or so but her arm moved back and forth and her speech was slurred but also sometimes like a severe stutter where she kept making the same sounds. Is that what myclonus looks like?

Once I took that drug before going to a concert and apparently it had paracetamol and apparently it's very easy to overdose on that so I just puked like 20 times and we went home before it even started.

Tramadol is one of those drugs people describe with this bizarre air of condescension, as though it's some harmless training-wheel opioid prescribed to grandmothers and people with mildly annoyed knees, which is funny because the closest I've ever felt to outright biological collapse involved a quantity of tramadol that, in retrospect, should have prompted significantly more concern than it did. The experience started innocently enough and then gradually transformed into what I can only describe as a prolonged argument between my brain and every other organ system, each apparently convinced the others were no longer fit to operate machinery. Time disintegrated first. Not slowed down, not sped up, simply ceased functioning as a meaningful concept. I'd look at a clock, close my eyes for what felt like thirty seconds, and discover that an hour had escaped custody. Then came the sweating, not normal sweating but the kind of greasy, disgusting, industrial-grade perspiration that makes you feel less like a human being and more like a condemned reactor venting coolant before a containment failure. Every surface became damp. My shirt was soaked. The bedsheets were soaked. I was convinced that if someone squeezed my arm they could irrigate farmland. Meanwhile my heart had developed what felt like a personal vendetta against rhythm. Every beat arrived accompanied by the suspicion that the next one might not. Not actual chest pain, not anything so straightforward, just a constant sickening sensation that something fundamental had gone badly, catastrophically out of calibration. Every few minutes I'd stop whatever I was doing to check my pulse again because surely this time I would discover the exact mechanical fault responsible for the sensation that my circulatory system was being operated by an intern with a grudge. Sleep became impossible because every time I drifted off I became convinced I had stopped breathing. I'd snap awake in a full-body panic, lungs burning, convinced I'd narrowly escaped becoming a statistic. Then I'd lie there staring into the darkness trying to decide whether I was genuinely dying or merely experiencing the most elaborate false alarm in medical history. At some point the room itself started feeling wrong. Not hallucinations exactly, just an overwhelming sense that reality had become a low-budget imitation of itself. Objects looked familiar in the same way a counterfeit banknote looks familiar. The proportions were right. The details were wrong. I became irrationally suspicious of furniture. A lamp occupied my attention for nearly an hour because I could no longer remember whether lamps had always looked that hostile. The nausea deserves special mention because it wasn't ordinary nausea either. It felt less like needing to vomit and more like my entire digestive system was attempting to resign in protest. Standing up was a gamble. Sitting down was a gamble. Existing was a gamble. I remember making the mistake of walking to the kitchen for water and immediately discovering that my legs had quietly joined the rebellion. I hit the floor with all the grace and dignity of a sack of wet concrete and spent several minutes staring at a chair trying to remember its purpose. The genuinely terrifying part wasn't pain. It was certainty. Absolute, unwavering certainty that some invisible threshold had already been crossed and that the only remaining question was how long it would take the rest of reality to catch up. Not dramatic certainty. Worse. Administrative certainty. The kind where you feel as though your paperwork has already been processed and you're merely waiting for the final notification. Looking back, I was probably never as close to death as I believed. Looking back is easy. At four in the morning, drenched in sweat, heart misfiring, unable to trust your own senses, convinced that the room is rotating half a degree every time you blink, the distinction feels largely academic. The entire ordeal left me with a newfound appreciation for the fact that consciousness is apparently held together by a shocking amount of duct tape and mutual cooperation between organs that, given the opportunity, seem perfectly willing to abandon their posts and leave you alone in the dark trying to negotiate terms with a bottle of prescription painkillers.

a friend seizured out infront of me, never thought there was much point to doing such a weak opiate... but here i am shooting a couple boxes. only since they deported me and where im at in mexico its impossible to get any real dope. i mix some with coke, its alright

another thing, i know its wrong but god how i miss real opiates. im so high and drunk right now. man soykaf is fuarrrked up sometimes. not quite sure how to put it in words man. havent even browsed this imageboard in like 5 years, surprised it exists still. i got deported to someplace in rural north mexico, note ive spent 90% of my life in the us, anyways here i am, thought they only sold soykafty cocaine but then i realized you can get xanax and kpins with no script at most pharmacies, and a former friend used to get acid, mushrooms, ketamine online. maaan i got fuarrrked up, still im upset man dont know waht do with my life

>>20547 > i know its wrong but god how i miss real opiates Never got into that soykaf so anyone with more knowledge on junk can feel free to correct me, but I've heard through the grapevine that, yeah, modern opiates fuarrrking suck. Heroin made you feel great, but fentanyl just makes you feel numb; very little in the way of euphoria, and of course, because it's way stronger and way more cost-effective to sell, fent is all you can get anymore. And because it's way, way stronger than heroin and the dealers cutting that soykaf barely know their chemistry and barely care, there's an unacceptable risk of just flat-out dying because you took a lethal dose without knowing it. And it makes you fold in public. What a world we live in where even illicit narcotics are subject to enshittification.

My mom had some type of seizure from just a relatively small dose of tramadol and she died a few days later for reasons I do not know for sure

>>20546 Isn't this how old dirty bastard died?

>>18510 pregabalin can induce seizures, probably not the best to mix it with a drug that lowers your seizsure threshold

>>20572 wait a minute i thought it was used for seizures? same as gabapentin? damn i didnt know it was teh opposite. well i thought only in high doses seizure on pregab could happen.

>>20570 Can I ask you something. My friends mother od on tram and she was found be my friend with her eyes rolling in the back of the head. Few minutes in the ambo then she came to and insisted she was "fine". Was that a seizure? My friend isn't convinced and just shrugs his shoulders, she also died years later from a seemingly benign brain tumor that apparently wasnt as harmless as she was told by doctors

>>20568 Yeah compared to heroin fent is pretty soykafty. Provided you have no tolerance at least, that\s the messed up part once you use fent a few times its really the only thing you can get high off. It's fuarrrked up indeed, whats worse is even the fentanyl quality started going downhill fast. Might not be the case anymore, not sure, havent used any in over a year but last I was using it was increasingly hard to get good stuff and I had good connects.

>>20571 Was not aware of this, damn. Man, fuarrrk tramadol. A regular speedball probably wouldnt of done him in.

>>18519 >>18518 wait, whoa you guys are taking the stuff orally. seems even more pointless, always only ever bought it in ampules, along with a hugefuck syringe

>>20581 damn i had no idea it comes in ampules and people just iv'd the stuff with a big syringe. i thought oral was oh so common way of prescription as well as getting hi method.

>>20584 yeah man, though i guess just swallowing a fuarrrkload in pills makes some sense. I mean when you shoot it for the first few minutes to me it just feels like someone is shaking you really hard, then you get a decent nod.

>>20599 well all my time being on places like here and other drug themed places this is a first time i come across an iv tram user. sounds like an interesting exp

>>20599 >>20600 Never knew it could be IVed either. I always thought it would be toxic to do so like is with things like codeine.

>>20577 Hard to say because there are many kinds of seizures but involuntary movements occur with some forms. Some forms there is awareness a seizure occurred others there is zero awareness.