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Psychedelic breakthroughs cause permanent psychosis

neko · 2025-06-26 12:48
if you allow yourself to remember/continue thinking about it instead of distracting. Well, sounds easy enough - just distract yourself. But then, it is impossible to live an examined life, the only kind of life worth living according to some. Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said: > “fuarrrking dope, he thought. You can always tell when it hits you but never when it un‑hits, if it ever does. It impairs you forever or you think so; you can’t be sure.” Maybe the framing is unnecessarily negative, but PKD was right in a sense.
neko · 2025-06-26 12:54
>>18505 You WILL go insane if you continue and continue digging it up
neko · 2025-06-26 13:01
>>18506 Do you then just not breakthrough for sanity, for corporeal life?
neko · 2025-06-26 13:07
This has been on my mind. The breakthroughs happened over a decade ago. I noticed that fascination is endless. The direction those experiences point to thought... Likely incompatible with corporeal life
Cyan · 2025-06-26 16:33
Psychedelics cause my emotional systems to go haywire. I become attuned to the suffering here and it's just too much. I want to die and ascend to a better place but I feel so stuck here in this reality.
neko · 2025-06-28 03:04
>>18512 Life is highly rewarding. Don't worry about it, friend. This suffering is not necessarily created for you. You choose where you direct your thoughts. You may as well direct them to the sky or to the forest or to the wide wide, far far fields of imagination. You are free to tune into anything. Just because it exists, doesn't mean it's THE truth. If physical environment unsettles you, you are free to choose a different environment. But if it is stored in your body... Yes, you will have to cleanse and clean your body. I believe it's quite simple to understand that you choosing to view someone's suffering in a way that causes you suffering - in no way helps or alleviates their suffering. Furthermore, respect is king, while you may want to end maybe willing to support, assist etc, at the end of the day you can only suggest these things, you cannot force it upon anyone. And as you may have already noticed, by trying to help someone unwilling to help themselves, you merely waste your time and energy. I understand some things present on the planet are unsettling. I think if you look at life simply enough and don't examine it too deep, which opens up the Pandora's box regardless of which planet you're on, and I think most people have the luxury of not being aware of the Pandora's box, well, then I believe the suffering around us is not a deal breaker. In many ways, we are free to choose to recognize the more elevated aspects of our species and those also do exist. Nobody has the information to tell which one truly exists in greater greatness. Furthermore, being incarnate on this planet is not only about your relationship to humanity. There are many mysteries here, many beings, even just the ones connected with nature and the minerals. And water. There's plenty of mysteries here, friend. Just because you see something dark, don't put on the blinders just yet. Thank you for your response. I hope you find peace and more harmonious emotional process if you decide to trip more.
SHODAN · 2025-06-28 04:20
psychosis is fine. psychosis is self awareness and meta-cognition; the only sad aspect is what you've always struggled with, knowing people are animals brainwashed and exploited and irrevocably ruined by actual evil partly of their own doing and the impossibility or massive difficulty of finding someone like you to share the experience with
neko · 2025-06-28 18:20
For decade over - you just forgot about it? What do you DARE to live? Possibilities most often don't as much as reveal themselves. Now if a gateway opens, do you just walk right past? Marvel with curiosity? Or invert yourself like Klein bottle and accept the incomprehensible intensity ahead. I dare... something small, manageable. I have nothing to say to the big stuff. So will you just waste away? Don't let the big energy course? I barely have anything to say to anyone. I don't want to appear cold or lifeless, but if my attention is somewhere else... Your survival depends on it. You don't have to be hella into it, but don't look like you don't care about us. Being serene or calm is acceptable. Leading a peaceful life, because you don't dare...... Survival. Yes I'm here. Yes I'm into it. Personal friends and acquaintances? Service. Respect. Passion? For the utterly insane. There is aquamarine and it is ecstasy There is indigo and it is mystery
Netrunner · 2025-06-28 19:20
>>18505 >if you allow yourself to remember/continue thinking about it instead of distracting. Well, sounds easy enough - just distract yourself. But then, it is impossible to live an examined life, the only kind of life worth living according to some. take a calm, deep breath and think about it like this. whatever you happen to be thinking about is who "you" are. it represents a local context and also your identity - sort of like a register. there are parts of your body, and mind, that have been injured. there are topics that bring you anxiety to think about. that affect what information you immediately have on hand, what you can remember, etc. its helpful to think about these pieces or referential points as scars, or wounds that are healing. it doesn't matter if it makes sense for them to be there or not, what matters is that they are there, and that the more you fixate on them is like poking them with a stick or clawing off a scab. if you do that, they will bleed. instead of fixating on these points of anxiety or trauma, you can simply acknowledge them as you go about your affairs. you don't need to distract yourself from it, you just need to not make it the heart of your attention. i hope this helps you feel better.
Unsigned · 2025-08-08 09:08
Whtevr, this is now lain artwork thread
Joe Bloggs · 2025-08-12 02:10
>>18530 What exactly is so rewarding about being alive? Literally every moment is like kicking dead whales down the beach. Even majority of moments on drugs is just suffering too. It's just do things for yourself, over and over and over again. You can overcome emotional reliance on another, but then it's just that, just to have a moment of feeling better than you did before. It's actually so un-rewarding to do anything that involves being alive. Making cool soykaf doesn't help, having loved ones doesn't help, loving another person doesn't help. Nothing brings a reward except dying and realizing what your life was.
Sweetgum · 2025-08-12 02:32
>>18791 log off, remove all stimuli for some time. no drugs, you can’t force it. with an extended meditation the unconscious cares within your mind will unearth. listen to that voice and let it guide you. write down everything. investigate. it’s important to ask yourself why you feel this way, and what could change to make you feel okay. a path will reveal itself with curiosity, tuned ears, and patience.
Judge Fang · 2025-08-12 02:57
>>18792 >neurosuggesting I haven't done this for a decade I wasn't asking for a 'cure', it's a fact of being human.
Lain Iwakura · 2025-08-12 16:49
i used to be really worried about this because 'permanent' alteration seems scary ah, what if "i'm" no longer "me"?? but when you understand that the caterpiller is altogethbr liquefied in his cocoon... its simply the last grasping of an ego that is itself a fiction now the center is everywhere
Hacker · 2025-08-21 10:58
OP here, I'm getting blocked, but I'll try getting through
Meddler · 2025-08-22 10:55
Five years ago I smoked salvia extract and spent an eternity stuck between dimensions without knowing what I was and I'm still not sure if I returned to the same place and body where I originated from. This place is pretty neat so I don't really mind.
Cutter · 2025-08-22 11:03
>>18798 Exactly. Everything you experience changes you permanently and there's no real "you".
Case · 2025-08-22 18:00
>>18866 After talking with some people I often get a feeling afterwards "damn I already talked about this long time ago and I said exactly the same thing, why I'm so consistent/predictable".
Acid Burn · 2025-08-22 18:09
>>18865 its humbling, isnt it?