LSD + Ketamine?

has anyone tried LSD combined with ketamine? could you theoretically use it to leave reality for periods of time? and potentially create a new one in your mind? i've tried dissociative before and its helped with the feeling existing being painful not as a depression sort of way but like as a sort of take a break from being present in reality but its more of a void than an escape to another reality has anyone tried combining ketamine with LSD or other disos with LSD like PCP or a PCP analog with more sedating effects (as to stop the user from acting anything out during their break from reality looking for a combination that feels sort of like the white woods song beach walk where its trippy yet a sense of dissociation

>>17243 >and potentially create a new one in your mind? Look into self-hypnosis? Maybe some kind of fantasia-boosting exercises? There are a few chems that boost hypnotic susceptibility. LSD, alcohol, nitrous oxide are the best (from what I've read) but there are others.

>>17243 never tried psychs+dissos together erowid gives some idea: https://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Ketamine.shtml https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=116412 https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=9174 https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=70530 in short: seems to work, but expect things to be 50%-100% stronger than you might expect from equivalent doses taken alone also, remember that ket has a much shorter half-life, so you may need to redose a few times or something (RIP MXE) >could you theoretically use it to leave reality for periods of time? and potentially create a new one in your mind? to be honest, dissociatives along are perfectly good for this, not much reason to add psychs to the mix >LSD like PCP or a PCP analog terrible idea. ketamine, MXE, or nothing. PCP + psychs sounds like a recipe for disaster. as always, start low, take a few months between experiments.

it's one of the best combos i ever tried in retrospect it was a bad idea cause my buddy was eyeballing it but hey it worked out literally makes life like a cartoon it's fuarrrking nuts dude

>>17243 It miight be better to do psilocin + ketamine together. Psilocin/related drugs have a much deeper headspace than acid, which should compliment the ket nicely (at least, better than acid). Of course, psilocin also makes for more of a wild ride, so YMMV...

sounds like it would be amazing, the ketamine would probably quell any jitteryness and give you a warm blanket feeling. never done k or l to be perfectly honest but i have with dxm/mematine,mushroom,hbwrs,weed. those gave me an awesome warm blanket feeling akin to a kratom type warmth. i just thought i would share that out of having a guess that it maybe has semi similar results

>>17271 should have inclued that i halved my usual doses of each substances in case it was too much and it worked out a lot of the time. like a trampoline, i get higer with each bounce Mematine 2hrs later> psy 2hrs later> >weed 2hrs later> dxm is how i dosed it

>>17271 >memantine is it worth trying? been wondering about it, since DXM is kinda soykaf for me and MXE is gone also how is memantine+DXM trampoline? i was considering doing something similar with just those two ala memantine moderate dose, wait 4-6 hours, take moderate DXM dose DXM makes me sick pretty easily, so i wanted to keep the dose for it low sage for offtopic

>>17274 yes it's pretty neat stuff, i havent done this combo in a while btw so maybe i might be less impresed now. i did a very low dose of dxm too like usually 60-90 mg cause im looking to add it on to get a little higher not for it to take over. frankly i would jsut skip the dxm and try memantine, it one did mush and meme in a kratom wd and i couldnt have cared less.. sage deez nuts

>>17275 thanks for the advice if i get some, i'll do just memant once or twice before i mess with addons. my main fear was that if i push the dose mid+ for memant i'd get stuck high for 20 hours, which sounds annoying, so stacking DXM would try to dodge that partially w/o letting the DXM take over... did you eat the memantine or snort it? also what dose ranges? i know about erowid/psychonaut wiki, just curious what worked for you also, i dunno about source discussion but i'm on a tor node so *shrugs* you buy from a clearnet vendor in canada or someplace else? throw a hint if you know a decent vendor

>>17250 rare and based post. i can verify from extensive research that its indeed true that specifically LSD, alcohol, and n2o can radically increase hypnotic susceptibility, and that this one of the reasons all three are used mainly as weapons in many instances. you need to use extreme discretion and tact when using those compounds not to have the hypnotic suggestion effect be of a negative nature and to make it into a positive thing, which is not something 99% of people account for.

>>17276 >did you eat the memantine or snort it? >or snort it? dear god please dont ever snort it. i once put the tiniest amont under my tounge and i thought i gave my self an actal burn. not fun eat that soykaf and be fuarrrking absolutely careful, it absorbs through skin and is active at <5mg. with a lengthy half life i usually did 5-10mg but have done some where around 70-100mg and it was ok but it last a long time. you will 100% get high but not any kind of hole. i wouldnt find it recreational on its own at all unless its all you had but its a great tool for making all the other stuff shine or feel more tolerable, speaking of tolerable it's meant to actually do the job at blocking tolerance building of most drugs. i dont know how to help you get teh ebst high here but i would just half ehat u would feel comfy of takin gdxm, memantine works pretty well to potentiate dxm so try not under estimate, firts time i had a "hole" was mixing thsoe two i had no idea it would work so well, i was sitting on the floor like woah this works i dont what to do with it now. as for the source i bought it from a defunct vendor 5 years ago but i see it get sold along with racetams on the russian clearnet, a little googling gets u there easy, i have no idea if they are legit or not. i miss mine

>>17278 >dear god please dont ever snort it. i once put the tiniest amont under my tounge and i thought i gave my self an actal burn. soykaf, so much for that plan. was hoping it would be a way to mitigate the long halflife one of my favorite memories is putting a 50mg/ml MXE solution in a nasal spray and squirtin away for a whole night, riding the waves in and out... guess i'd have to gelcap it or something... >you will 100% get high but not any kind of hole. yeah, this matches what i've read i don't need a HOLE hole, but i like to sink to a moderate depth >but i would just half ehat u would feel comfy of takin gdxm, memantine works pretty well to potentiate dxm so try not under estimate, firts time i had a "hole" was mixing thsoe two i had no idea it would work so well, i was sitting on the floor like woah this works i dont what to do with it now. thanks again for the advice, appreciate it. maybe i'll have to give this a try after all... >as for the source i bought it from a defunct vendor 5 years ago but i see it get sold along with racetams on the russian clearnet, a little googling gets u there easy, i have no idea if they are legit or not. i miss mine RIP every vendor i used to know... ahhh, russia... i think ive seen it there as well... wonder if the soykaf crosses borders OK... last question, you ever tried it with ether/nitrous? ether+mxe was incredible...

>>17278 >last question, you ever tried it with ether/nitrous? ether+mxe was incredible... no, i lived a very boring life. they derezzed nitrous in my country last year, fuarrrking class c, what a joke.

>>17279 have you ever gotten medical grade ether? i only did the dirty kind you extract out of starter fluid when i was young. definitely got pretty high on it a few times but was always too sketched out to do a crapload because it was tainted with hexanes.

>>17281 i've worked in organic chem labs on and off so it's pretty easy to grab small amounts not medical, but pretty damn pure (99%+) you can buy it for certain non-chemistry/medical technical uses without too many questions, i dont wanna say more to avoid it being overused/ruined >>17278 turns out i'm retarded and dunno how to find russian sites... found some indian ones but i don't really trust Indian shipping... then again, i dunno if russian mail moves OK either... i found one vendor that looks OKish for me, but spoonfeed me more if you want... >>17280 >nitrous derezzed holy soykaf that's sad can still get whipped cream but that soykaf's expensive...

>>17282 after I posted I realized that I should have referred to it as "lab grade" thats really what I meant. thats awesome you got try that. I am aware you can actually buy small bottles on the river but I never have. maybe one day, idk.

>>17283 if you do get your hands on it, forget whatever people say online about pouring it on a rag, 100% wasteful garbage put ~5-10 ml in a small glass bottle, hold this just under your nose/mouth, and breathe as deeply as possible (goal is 50-50 air/ether fumes mix, so that you can just breathe it in continually). it doesn't do much on its own, have to combine it with other dissos for good effects (e.g: take 200-300mg of DXM first, then huff it on top) (use a small bottle with only a few mls so if you spill it you don't lose it all) warning: if you use it, you will fuarking REEK of ether for the next 24hrs or so

>>17284 I used to do it off an american flag or just hit it out of a glass or bottle like you said. it definitely can get you blasted. my experiences with it were kinda similar to nitrous but it had more of a warm opiate like rush instead of nitrous having a more cold disso kinda rush.

>>17285 >off an american flag 10/10 best method i never managed to get really blasted with it alone- maybe the other chems in dirty starter-fluid mix get you higher? i agree with what you said about being much warmer than nitrous nitrous is so short/cold/wacky ether is way cozier. man, now you've got me wanting to get some more...

>>17286 I never got completely blasted either but I never really tried to, but I got high enough and it seemed kinda like the high felt dirty from the hexane. Would be interested to experiment with it more if it were right in front of me, but I do not think its worth my while to buy some. when it comes to hard narcoticy kinda drugs, like dissos, I know it can be hard for me to use them sparingly when I am already in possession of them. I feel way safer doing a small amount of a disso someone shared with me than I do buying my own in a sizable amount, even if it was .5-1g of something or a tiny tank of gas.

>>17287 > when it comes to hard narcoticy kinda drugs, like dissos, I know it can be hard for me to use them sparingly when I am already in possession of them. ahh, fair. i've had friends who would just use til it was gone (i'm assuming you don't have it that bad, but i get the idea) since we are already talking about this sorta dumb combo soykaf, i'll recommend one you may not have tried that is OTC dxm+dph somewhere between 150/150 and 250/250 depending on your weight etc. honestly gonna rec it to OP as well >>17243 most thorough dream-life-hallucinations i've ever experienced just falling into a dream-life, thinking its 100% real for 5-20 minutes, then bubbling back up into lucidity just long enough to catch of a breath of air and go "holy soykaf" before falling into a new dream-life caveat is you will feel like soykaf the next day

>>17288 I have not done that combo but I know people who have. That is definitely really heavy stuff.

I've done ketamine+lsd, ketamine+2cb, ketamine+mdma, ketamine+mdma+lsd, ketamine+mdma+2cb. i don't think you will find the "in a different reality" feeling you're searching for with any of them, but regardless i recommend them. when you do enough ketamine to lose connection to reality, lsd/2cb makes that 'void' richer, but still feels as if you're in some sort of "unreality" rather than a different reality.

>>17243 yea I have tried various psychodelics combined with dissos. it intensifies stuff, but somehow I have the feeling its also softening the blow a great bit.. I tend to get lost in thoughts on LSD, 1v-LSD, ALAD, the whole LSD family basically. When I combine tripping with some Ket or C-Liquid [spoiler](don't ask me what this soykaf is, it's one of the better cannabinoids that came out of the whole 'CBD-Liquid' bullshit but the guy wouldn't tell me what it is, its a Disso for sure tho) [/spoiler] I just accept the world around me warping, there's less of a questioning what demons I see in the faces of my buddies.. that's about it for me, its interesting but not mind-boggling, to the contrary even. Not sure if you could bring someone down from a bad trip by shooting up some ket but it would be a interesting experiment for sure