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Project 2501 · 2024-01-30 09:08
Is there some way I can wipe my memories and destroy my personality and mkultra myself to be someone else(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf.)
Koichiro · 2024-01-30 09:21
Commit sudoku and you'll get reborn
Rick Deckard · 2024-01-30 09:44
>destroy my personality
Somehow form a new personality and let it destroy the original one?
Why do you want to do that though, lainon?
sage · 2024-01-30 11:14
>>14706
I heard that's the worst you could do and will make you come back up as a dung beetle or a penis fish or something and will take you eons to get back to a state where you don't have to eat crap or dick.
Safest bet is to just roll with the screwed up life you've already got and ride it out. That way you won't get the dunce hat placed on you by Eternity and worst thing you didn't press the eject button in a helicopter. Godspeed, lad.
Bobby Newmark · 2024-01-30 12:47
>>14705
Accept Jesus Christ as your savior and begin life anew as a righteous servant of God. You cannot forget your past mistakes but you can be forgiven from them. You cannot forget your past misfortunes, but you can forgive them and find peace. The point isn't to become someone else, but to become more yourself through His grace. Spiritual refinement is a lifelong endeavor. Every day is an opportunity to become a better person and become closer to God. You cannot move backwards; only forward. I believe in you!
Mario Rossi · 2024-01-30 14:17
Youre going to have to elaborate on why you even want to do this.
Joey · 2024-01-30 14:38
>>14710
sorry man I dont remember there was just a note on my desk telling me that I _need_ to do it somehow. any help is appreciated.
Six · 2024-01-30 17:05
1. Practice Zen Buddhism and destroy the ego/self
2. Inflict a traumatic brain injury that will induce amnesia but not damage further brain function (hard mode)
3. Induce a severe form of psychosis through the ingestion of hard drugs without killing yourself (super hard mode)
Elliot Alderson · 2024-01-30 22:46
>>14709
This is the best route, if you're going to change, change for the better.
Unidentified · 2024-01-31 01:39
>>14705
If you don't already know how on some level, then probably not. You lack the core priming required for structural dissociation, which must be established before the age of 5. Before the age of 2 for deep programming.
Tyrell Wellick · 2024-02-01 10:59
Damn its really fuarrrking over huh there is no hope at all. I just want someone else to take over for me the person I am can't live in this world
Jens Hansen · 2024-02-02 10:36
>>14716
'Ask yourself “Why is this so unbearable? Why can’t I endure it?” You’ll be embarrassed to answer.'
If you're truly in the state of mind you're suggesting, you can just go rob a bank or fight in Ukraine. But you're not. You're in a comfort loop, where whatever is making you comfortable is also making you depressed. If you are meaningless and at your end, offer yourself to that end.
But you're not, so you can't. You'll commit suicide just because it's more comfortable.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2024-02-02 10:50
>>14718
Not really relevant either way
Roger Pollack · 2024-02-02 12:40
>>14719
I completely disagree at every level. Men who come back from war often call themselves a different person then they were when they left.
Leto Atreides I · 2024-02-02 12:54
>>14720
Ok if you say so buddy
Wintermute · 2024-02-02 13:11
>>14720
while I do think radical changes as you're suggesting are a very reasonable recommendation to give to the suicidal or such, afterall, if you're willing to kill yourself you should be willing to, I don't know, give maritime piracy a good shot and see how it goes first, saying you're a different person is a saying and not exactly one which should be taken entierly literally. It certainly doesn't erase all your memories as OP requests, I say having become a different person myself. Which is to say of course that I'm exactly who I used to be just older and different.
Gyula Kovacs · 2024-02-02 16:46
>>14721
>but that's hard I asked for an EASY way to do it with drugs :(
Ivan Petrov · 2024-02-03 02:55
I wanted to do this. I hear datura wipes childhood memories and certain tribes use it to "become a man" no I don't have a Citation for that but it FOES cause amnesia but nit sure if permanent like wiping bad memories. Best just to learn from it as hard as that sounds
Random · 2024-02-03 14:40
>>14724
This isn't a thread about becoming a better person though and we're on the drug board to begin with.
Netrunner · 2024-02-03 16:30
>>14734
Alright man whatever. I'm not going to bother. You're off topic.
藤原純一 · 2024-02-03 16:32
>>14734
>you could go fight for russia or wagner or sillenskii just the same
idk man are there any americans / gyropoorians fighting for the seperatist republics that who havent been in the war since the trump or bamadministrations? Any or fighting in wagner?
Unknown · 2024-02-04 11:18
So the conclusion is datura? How do I get my hands on some and do it without dying? And what dosage will ensure amnesia.
I will report here if I'm in a state to.
Cowboy · 2024-02-04 21:26
>>14705
yup.
unfortunately I can't tell you how. I don't remember.
good luck though!
jokes aside though, if you really want to change, you need to practice one key trait: humility.
without that, you're hopeless.
Jet Black · 2024-02-05 23:04
Datura smoker here. It grows everywhere around the place i live and you can buy seeds in almost any gardening store all over the country, you can also order them online, datura isn't prohibited in most 1st world countries. But overdoses will just make you either demented or dead.
My sincere advice is killing yourself, that way you'll get to gensokyo in no time.
Case · 2024-02-06 00:51
>>14711
That really isn't helping clarify what your goal even is.
>>14739
It wont give you that kind of amnesia just you will in a delirium do things you wont remember later. The long term effects of people doing datura is them having this fog and inability to think. So it just makes your life worse.
Theoretically it would go like
Psilocybin for increased neurpolasticity
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-022-01389-z
30mg hydrocodisone for more recent stressors to help prevent trauma forming
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-022-02126-2
40mg short acting Propanolol an hour before for when thinking of bad memories to rewrite them as not so traumatic
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8979654/
Then undergo professional hypnotherapy.
Hagbard Celine · 2024-02-06 03:51
>>14705
It won't 'wipe' your memories. But ghosting everyone who's connected to your past including all family for at least a decade while in an extreme isolated state will start a process that mentally warps your consciousness your schizoid thought patterns and massive dissociative behavior will start to care about your past memories a lot less and they'll fade in a sense of how they feel to you. I spent every single day from 2011 to right now compartmentalizing everything about my past from myself due to the extreme pain of everything from it. I have went through plenty of mixed emotions from regret, denial, psychotic episodes, suicide attempts, gun in my mouth but just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger, and much much more. Eventually sometime between 2020 and 2021 I started to feel different. From the outside looking in on the information that I had gained about how my family was made me realize that my choices were the best thing I could have done for myself. I wasted so much time wanting to be accepted by these people and be a part of the 'tribe' that it literally drove me insane. They all became open books of everything I detested in human beings. Now when I think about the past my mental state just thinks of them as being replaced by some type of alien A.I. simulated monsters who were entraped into a programmed state sometime around 2007. Same thing with anyone who used to be my friend that I had seen from the distance and learned about. I only have two people left in my life but they aren't a part of my past as I became in contact with them after the process had began in 2011. One of them is who helped me pretty much gain outside information that I otherwise wouldn't have had about them. Worked as an informant for me on the status of my family and past friends until I just stopped caring about the information. I also developed mental hacking techniques around 2014 that I learned others had been attempting as well I have a different name for it but people have referred to it online in recent years as 'reality shifting', except that my technique is a bit more power induced. I also heavily rely on the mental techniques and power of my self-entites which again later heard referred to as tulpas. This is a practice that I had developed as a five year old child that I mastered into my teens and even further into my early adulthood. I've had these entites around for over 30 years now and I can switch between them at will. It took me a long time to stop the war among them and to get them on the same side working for my cause. We engage these mental techniques and hop around timelines that are very close to the reality that the origin point was from. Think of a more complex world line example from the anime Steins;Gate but with mental and dimensional travel abilities through spirit and mind exercises that has been developed through intense meditation over the course of 20+ years. After doing this so many times now my past memories are still there but have less feelings with each time I activate my mind to hop to another slight difference into the reality that I had before. I've also had slight differences affect my memories similar to mandela effects. I believe that I'm gaining memories that this timeline had and they are merging with my original timeline's memories. I believe that some people and maybe potentially more over time have this ability as well but can't control it thus leading to many other people expericing their own mandela effects and why so many people share them with each other towards bigger more wider events and changes to logos, etc.
Spooky · 2024-02-06 10:27
>>14746
>fog and inability to think
these are positives
Agent Smith · 2024-02-09 11:43
>>14753
cant have bad thoughts if you dont think
Yet Another Lainon · 2024-02-09 12:39
>>14709
>>14718
these lainons are on the right track. you need to better yourself because even if you get ahold of a reliable medicine or technique that could cause amnesia, A) you're just repressing the memories and making a very confused person who will have to rediscover them all to not be so hopelessly confused, B) the amnesiac version of you is going to be even more inept at whatever you want to do in life than your present broken self.
Look into authentic Christianity like >>14709 mentioned because if you take divine forgiveness seriously, it will help to a surprising degree and you'll have a sturdy foundation to rebuild your life with, or if you have hangups about Christianity look up Samskara (sanskrit for bad memories, basically) and how to process them. I don't doubt whatever you're going through is bad otherwise you wouldn't want to reroll yourself, but bad soykaf in your past you haven't mentally dealt with is the simplest way to define what your problem is, and luckily we have teks for this problem from all around the world.
Eldon Tyrell · 2024-02-09 12:58
>>14761
I'm not interested in that at all. I want amnesia. I don't have anything I want to do. I don't get all these weird motivations you guys are tacking on to me.
Joey · 2024-02-09 13:37
>>14762
have you tried suicide ?
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J.C. Denton · 2024-02-09 16:00
>>14762
You cant know what you want to do if you havent tried different things to see if you like anything. This is part of why i gave you an actual MKultra like protocol that actually has some scientific papers backing my protocol >>14746 as opposed to causing brain damage.
>>14763
OP probably feels obligated to be alive and seeking this as an alternative but i dont get the rational here since they seem keen on being a human vegetable which would be worse than being dead because people would be stuck taking care of disabled OP.
Mario Rossi · 2024-02-09 20:53
>>14766
The protocol you gave me is not feasible for me to do.
Liet Kynes · 2024-02-09 21:25
>>14770
Do you live with your parents or something?
Guthrie · 2024-02-09 22:28
>>14770
it would help to know what is in your capacities, what resources and tools you can access. I do not think there exists a safe and guaranteed method least of all one that can be done cheaply on oneself that achieves quite what you seem to want.
erasing memories does not make you a new person it makes you a person who has forgotten, by the way. You were who you are when you were a blob in a womb, regardless of whether you remember.
Mario Rossi · 2024-02-09 22:44
>>14772
Plus the memories are still there even if not remembered they are literally physical connections all through the brain.
Guthrie · 2024-02-10 09:12
>>14771
No
>>14772
>>14773
Please stop making assumptions on what my goals or motivation could be. I simply wish to get from point A to point B
Anonymous · 2024-02-10 09:54
>>14776
OK but if I understand you correctly what you're asking for is pretty much impossible but best I can suggest is to call an ambulance and then stick a wire into your brain through the eye or nose or something and give it a swirl. You probably won't quite get what you want but maybe something close to it. If I understand you correctly.
Maybe everyone misunderstanding/assuming your desires is because you've badly explained them, or they're impractical and people are suggesting approximatons of various degrees.
Meddler · 2024-02-11 09:00
Kind of, yes. It will probably be rather difficult to accomplish on yourself, but Laojiao-style brainwashing was well understood even at the time, or else they would not have been so successful. (Aside from mitigating the high probability you will give yourself a debilitating mental illness vaguely similar to schizophrenia and ptsd. I don't know that there's been much research on that. It likely requires constant observation and a tailored regimen.) Since you referenced one of the MK failures you probably don't know much about real brainwashing psychology, so I recommend reading Dr Lifton's "Thought-Reform and the Psychology of Totalism" ( https://archive.ph/6cexy ) It's very case-oriented and so will provide helpful concrete examples of the practice.
When you go looking for more info after, it's important to remember thst the vast majority of material on "mind control" is bunk. Even among professional psychologists the real article is rare enough that most barely understand it at all. Anything pop is probably not worth the paper it's printed on. To avoid wasting your time, just guess that if it sounds too easy or exotic (like drugged hypnosis or "dark psychology") it's probably too much myth or variability to be useful. Plus remember the likelihood of major mental injury. Humans aren't designed to go through extended, unremitting stress of the sort needed to induce personality change. If you're not sure if you've got what it takes to survive a possible total mental break and serious physical symptoms you're not ready to try and should reconsider how you do this. Maybe you'll find more common self-improvement strategies more practical instead?
Bobby Newmark · 2024-02-11 10:06
>>14782
>personality changes
I thought he wanted amnesia
Pulse · 2024-02-11 10:21
>>14762
Consider the following: if you become amnesic, you will want to know what was in your path. I know it because I had a dissociative amnesia and when after a year I began to inspect my past it traumatized me and then I remembered I created this dissociation out my own will to finally being able to move forward.
You should not do it and you probably can't anyway.
Undisclosed · 2024-02-11 11:55
>>14785
>I had a dissociative amnesia
can you describe the circumstances which brought it on ? Might not be reproduceable but probably a step in the right direction.
Trinity · 2024-02-11 14:06
>>14777
So a lobotomy. Also I second the last bit.