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Any1 have any tips to get sober. ive tried for so long and keep failing(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf. Have you tried https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous )

Get a lot of routines that keep you busy. Start with something simple like cleaning your house. Get hobbies, learn a language, when sober you can live much more free in this society and you should make use of that. You'll be better poised to do well in school and find jobs when sober. Those are not for everyone but you have to find something to be thankful of for staying sober. It wont always feel good and you have to learn to do things even when not feeling good, it will be rewarding. 90 days of doing something regularly should make you reasonably used to it. To cope, 12 steps meetings help, make sober friends. If you're facing too much I recommend to start with a rehabilitation program, whats available will depend on where you are so I can't offer much more advice on that.

>>14460 I appreciate your comment. Do you speak from experience

>>14459 Give yourself OCD. Tell yourself you will literally die if you keep going. This is definitely toxic and unhealthy but I don't really care.

>>14462 I feel like I kinda used substance abuse to escape OCD tendencies lol

>>14461 A little over 8 months sober now, yea.

>>14459 if you can't stop on your own your own you probably have to go to rehab. if you're still capable of stopping but just can't stay stopped, then you can just go to a meeting, get a sponsor, and do everything they tell you to do

>>14459 For opiates/opioids there is nothing that compares to ibogaine detox.

>>14459 Go to local A.A. No, seriously. I quit using drugs and alcohol without their help, but used to visit meetings just to find some cool people who also got out.

Hey guys, quick update. I've decided to forgo sobriety and self medicate with 150mg of pregabalin along with anti depressants. Thank you all for the assistance.

find out what brain process(es) cause you to drink then pull out the roots.

>>14596 I feel pretty aware of why I drink and use substances. there isnt much resolve that I can do currently. its a process and hopefully, pregabalin, ssris and therapy can help. Still waiting to get a therapist though

Just compulsively do a more benign drug instead. Even AA programs literally encourage participants to smoke cigarettes and drink coffee. Some people switch to the opiate of the masses, but that stuff actively makes you more retarded.

>>14598 by opioid of the masses, are you referring to organised religion *question mark* Also, I have quit weed and switched to cigs, I smoke like a chimney now lmao benign drugs work but I still crave something which helps the anxiety. caffeine has always been an option, but it is the one chemical I have the most respect for and do not abuse it, I use it as needed lol

Sobriety IMHO should be considered not purely from the perspective of not using drugs but rather more holistically living a sober life. You can live reasonably sober while on medication, even on substitution therapy. Drinking coffee, tea, smoking cigarettes, those are all indeed drugs but their effects are mild enough and so deeply ingrained into our culture that you can live reasonably sober while on them. Doesn't really make them healthy, I'm talking about something practical and real here. Self-medication is a ways away from sobriety. Who are you trusting to manage your new addiction? Yourself? That is nonsensical. Your dealer? Good luck with that. Not that doctors should be blindly trusted either, but are you talking openly about your self-medication with your friends, your family, your co-workers? If you have to keep it secret then you're deep in the hole. Again, not passing any moral judgement here. There's good cases for secrecy, but it is a risk and you should think hard whether it is really worth it. The hard part to accept is that you can live reasonably sober while occasionally drinking alcohol or even doing hard drugs. Alcohol comes with less risk, it is legal, you don't need the secrecy, you don't associate with criminals (necessarily, be careful about your drinking buddies). From my anecdotal experiences I would say that it helps to have a lot of things to do, a lot of life, responsibilities and such to keep the use from turning destructive. 12 step groups will say that whoever is capable of doing that is not really an addict, but that's a mythologized "disease" we talk about. It is the fundamental attribution error to consider some innate flaw of the user in the way the user uses rather than their situation. In the defense of that mythology though, I would say that one can develop behaviors and social networks that never really go away and are triggered by the use no matter how long one avoids use or those social networks for. Still, I see no hard law to this and I find there are exceptions, and I don't think it's because of a mysterious fundamental attribute making one user an addict and another not an addict. Ultimately, when it comes to illegal drugs, every user is a junkie to the law and society. It is purely a game played by junkies to try to define which user is a junkie and who is not. So I would advise caution in your use, it is about managing risk and risk is best managed by your surrounding community by being transparent and open rather than trying to control it all by yourself.

>You can live reasonably sober while on medication, even on substitution therapy. I kind of agree with this. I've been thru a rough time with booze in the past and used opiates a lot before that. Drinking, for me, got so out of hand that it got to the point where I was starting to black out, get visited by the police and thrown in the hospital. I got sober from the booze over 3 years ago, but have been taking suboxone (sub) since. Even before sobriety, I was still using sub. But once I got away from the booze, I started getting back into computers and I've had to catch up on a lot of things. I feel like the sub has kept me at bay over the past few years as I continue my studies. I would like to get off subs someday, but the last time I attempted to do so, I couldn't handle it (stayed up for 3 days and sleeping aid wouldn't work). I don't take much, just enough to feel okay enough to push thru. At the moment, it's just sub, coffee, and cigs (which I need to quit). Last time I quit smoking, I went about 45 days (~2 months ago) before I slipped up.

OP here, I would like to thank all of you who took the time to read and reply to my post. It means a lot to read what you all say and I appreciate the help x