US Cannabis legalization updates: Snek edition

I made this graph because all the other ones I've seen were outdated. This chart does not count states where cannabis has been "decriminalized" but is still marked down as a misdemeanor. I would like to dedicate this thread to tracking the legalization of cannabis. ============================= WHY CANNABIS LEGALIZATION MATTERS ============================= Cannabis, along with all other drugs are common property, a commodity. In the past, commodities were not able to be restricted on a federal level without an explicit constitutional amendment barring them. When the petition to ban alcohol was around, nobody thought twice about approaching the Legislative branch, as doing so would be unconstitutional. They had to pursue an amendment. When big pharma realized the medicinal value of the plant, and when big alcohol realized it's potential competition for a much safer drug, the movement went forth to unconstitutionally ban most substances, including cannabis. Property rights and Civil rights have often been seen as separate issues, but they are in fact one and the same. We must protect our liberty on both levels if we are to have either. This includes all forms of private property, but this in particular is about drugs. There are many people who have serious medical issues, and cannabis is the only thing that can help them. In states where it is illegal, or stifled hard by bureaucracy, those people are left to suffer and die, because the pieces of soykaf we elect into office don't give a rats fuarrrking ass about them. They can be another statistic to further prop up the prison industrial complex for all they care. On the agenda right now [2/20/18]: * New Hampshire House votes to legalize Marijuana * New Hampshire governor Chris Sununu has basically guaranteed himself a one term seat by not supporting the legalization initiative. * New Jersey plans to legalize cannabis

>GAY WOW RUDE >:(

I think we should legalize crsstal meth also

>>1353 Cant tell if you're serious

>>1356 you're not me >>1353 stop sh1tposting dude

>>1354 yea im serious, why?

We should legalize all drugs, it's dumb that we don't have the right to change our state of consciousness anyway.

>>1359 I'm all for keeping (strongly addictive) drugs illegal. No one should be able to sell a product that compels repeat use, that's the opposite of freedom.

>>1360 >strongly addictive And by what standards do you measure the addictivness of some substance? Your own personal feelings? There have been few studies, and while they may vary, some drugs like amphetamines/meth might not be as addictive as tobacco. Just because something is normalized in our current culture (ie. smoking cigarettes) and something is feared and shunned (ie. "meth mouth", "crack pipe"....) doesn't mean the reality is like you think it is.

>>1361 Addendum: What is the cut off line for "product that compels repeat use"? By what measure do you say that line is and where do you draw it? Don't forget that some drugs work differently from person to person, so you can't say with 100% certainty that the same drug would even become addictive to some users.

>>1359 I used to hold this viewpoint, but after more hands-on experience with a variety of substances I'm less sure if legalization + easy access is the way to go. While I'm a strong proponent of the right to altering your conciousness (and the right to do basically anything that doesn't harm others directly), I worry that the current view of substances like alcohol/tobacco would encourage really dangerous behavior if other drugs were make easily accessible. IE: Where I live binge drinking is commonplace and dangerous, binging on psychedelics / opiates would be even more dangerous. Maybe as time passes, with decriminalization, extensive education and slow legalization, full legalization could work. I do think that decriminalization is a good idea regardless. No need to punish users for crimes perpetrated by massive syndicates. Also helps prevent overdoses. Portugal shows that decriminalization works. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal >>1360 >No one should be able to sell a product that compels repeat use While I appreciate your sentiment, I feel like the vast majority of products that you want to use once also compel repeat use (read: TV, videogames, nicotine, alcohol, caffeine, amusement parks, sex, music, etc.) Being wary about companies designing extremely addictive drugs and marketing them in a way that encourages abuse is very reasonable, but given that tobacco and alcohol companies do exactly that already it is hard to use that as a reason to keep other drugs illegal. >>1362 Also this is a really nice point. As an example, for most people psychedelics are very self-limiting, one or a few uses and they are done. But for a rare fraction of people, weekly or even daily abuse is a serious problem (which can lead to permanent problems with memory/cognition/basic function). nb because nothing to do with weed

>>1360 >No one should be able to sell a product that compels repeat use I have to eat food or I will die. I have to buy that food. This is a product that compels repeat use. I use my computer every day, and I had to buy it at some point. This sentiment makes no sense. Actually food should be free, so I agree that no one should sell it. So make all drugs free and legal too even better! >>1361 while I agree with your point (and yui), that graph is kind of misleading since pleasure and psychological dependence is massively dependent on the individual. >>1363 I think encouraging a culture of education is key.

>>1364 >pleasure and psychological dependence is massively dependent on the individual In all honesty I don't know how the study that props up that pic really measured pleasure and dependency, but as far as I know these things are indeed measurable (at least relative to each other) and not just subjective

>>1365 I will provide some examples as to where this is very subjective. Many people don't find diphenhydramine to be recreational, and don't enjoy the experience of delerliants. However if you take the journey over to /deli/ on 420 chan you will find a (albeit kind of small) group of people who love the experience. I have not met another person who actually enjoys salvia divinorum, but my waifu does. Although my waifu likes to smoke weed now and again, she wouldn't say it's addictive. Yet she knows people who have developed a dependence on it. Even beyond drugs, clearly loads of people enjoy gambling to the point where it's even addictive, but I have never seen he appeal even after giving it a try. Now sure you can to an extent measure dopamine responses from different drugs, but that's not the whole picture of pleasure. Sometimes a powerful psychedelic trip might not actually be pleasurable at the time, but on reflection can tell you something interesting and be a great experience. Not to mention how set and setting play a roll. Even opiates which are high on that chart aren't very fun in the wrong environment.

>>1361 cute yui

>driving through idaho >stop at rest area to pee >cops there helping someone with a flat tire, think nothing of it >grateful dead sticker on my car >come out from pee to see them walking a dog around my car >>our dog hit on your car and that gives us probable cause to search it >don't smoke weed and have none in the car >wish i had the balls to tell them to go fuarrrk themselves (instead tell them i do not consent to a search, but still unlock it for them when they ask) >second time this has happened to me in the last year Mind you, I wasn't even pulled over or anything - This was in the parking lot of a rest area, I'm fairly certain they had no legal grounds to do this at all. Profiling is real. Dogs are 100% bullsoykaf. fuarrrk Idaho. What should I have done? What would have happened if I refused to unlock the car? Needless to say, I have now removed the sticker - I feel disgusted and utterly defeated about it.

>>1351 dude, weed LMAO 😂👌🏿

>>1405 Oh, I forgot to mention they didn't even get my name or ask to see my ID, which I thought was standard required procedure for any interaction... The whole thing was just so weird and fuarrrked up.

>>1405 Why did you remove the Sticker? I mean, you don't have anything with you, so let them search the hell out of your car. >Also nice Biomega panel, I consider getting it tattooed.

Slightly offtopic: In switzerland they legalized weed that contains <1% THC and has on avg about 25% CBD, often just called CBD weed. Its nice they let the leash a bit loose, but the legal stuff is more expensive than the real thing, its a sad fuarrrking joke. The legal stuff wouldnt even be so bad and soykafting on itself it was not so overpriced. For a while you could fuarrrk with the cops by telling them you have the legal stuff, but now they got quick test devices. All that clownery just because they cant legalize it. Dont let yourself get dragged in that soykaf.

>>1433 Legalization is just such a big word, I think most politicians are afraid (or averted) of it, because the consequences might be overwhelming for almost everyone. I think there still are too many people against a legalization, which means, that there will be much resistance. Even if it turns out successful.

According to OP's map, gay = "about to be legalized nationwide". It was supposed to happen by July but people seem to think more time is needed to work out details especially (but not only) as related to impaired driving. Like with alcohol, the national age will be 18 with each province and territory allowed to set it higher... so probably 19 in most places.

>>1432 You've never seen a real search have you? When they decide to do more than just hassle you by poking around and hope they get lucky, they without any qualms or repercussions just destroy all your stuff. Backpack has zippers?.. box cutters are quicker and easier, etc. And just because someone doesn't smoke marijuana doesn't mean they don't have other things they could also potentially get in trouble for. Furthermore, there's just the hassle and stress of the whole situation, accompanied by the constant fear that they could easily plant something and no one would bat an eye. It's easiest to just live in a way that doesn't garner any attention. This makes real change more difficult because all your potential friends are blending in as well, all thinking they're mostly alone. If you want to change/help the Utah-Idaho blockade you should get suspicious looking people in crappy stickered cars to drive in from Colorado and Oregon/Washington at suspicious times on smaller roads. People and vehicles should be 100% clean. They will be pulled over and the whole thing should be recorded with multiple cameras. Do this over and over and collect a bunch of examples of them blowing procedure and abusing their power and take it to the state legislature.

>>1443 That sounds like a big undertaking to organize and stick with long enough.

>>1444 It also seems too likely to get sabotaged by the Man. I mean, if it's big enough to make a difference it's more than big enough to catch the attention of authorities who are all too eager to put that soykaf down.

The Dank is hit with a hefty state tax for recreational, of course buying from a dealer is still superior to those who are serious. The shops will drive gentrification to a level previously thought unattainable, however their novelty will probably not soon wear off. To the anon who was stopped: you don't have to agree to illegal search and seizures, pretty sure I heard of that right being garaunteed somewhere... You don't even have to show ID -- once they check it they can do more, but if you refuse then they f off. Say, "Am I under arrest for anything?". If yes, then you'd like to speak to your lawyer. If no, goodbye. Also if you have as much faith in state legislature to carry out justice based on your little sting operation wew lad let me tell you about operation jump street...

>>1456 > pretty sure I heard of that right being garaunteed somewhere Welcome to America, enjoy your visit. Things here are not what you were told they were.

>>1351 Why does Commiefornia not have a gun stealing sticker?

>>1559 The gun stealing sticker is in reference to how those with medical marijuana are not allowed to own firearms in those states.

>>1351 When did they legalize weed for recreational use in Maine!??

>>1567 They held a vote and legalization won by a narrow margin. I'm just surprised that New Hampshire didn't legalize first.

>>1568 Yeah, I ended up reading up on it. Can't believe that was voted on back in 2016. That whole news just passed me by.

>>1360 >that's the opposite of freedom. https://youtu.be/M9gRzA4XfLI

>>1443 >putting a "look at me xD" sticker on your car in the first place What do you gain from some stranger knowing you like what he likes? A "hey, I like that too, rock on my dude xD" ? If it's social bonding you are looking for, you are looking for it in a wrong way.

>>1624 Bitching about bumper stickers in a thread like this is autistic and adds no meaningful discussion.

Calling it now, Louisiana will be the first Deep South state to fully legalize. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking...

>>1675 Out of curiosity, why?

>>1681 We have a ridiculously high incarceration rate, plus we're one of the more liberal Southern states thanks to New Orleans (and to some extent Baton Rouge). Also, the state legislature already set in motion a plan for statewide legalization for medicinal use, and New Orleans already decriminalized, so as far as tangible progress we're pretty far ahead of most states, even Mississippi. Plus wishful thinking, of course.

>>1625 Just because you see no correlation between being an asshat and getting yourself hassled by idiots doesn't mean you don't deserve to get called out on your low IQ

>>1351 Should Iowa line up with Florida? It's legal to prescribe, have with a prescription, and for a pharmacist to give it to people with that prescription BUT illegal to grow, or move across state lines - so there is no legal source for people with that prescription.

Legal medically in PA is a very loose description. It costs a fuarrrk ton, the types substances you can get are limited, and the list of ailments is very exclusive. I have really bad chronic joint and spine pain and I can't imagine what I would have to go through to actually get it.

I just moved to MA and the state of legalization here is hilarious. Weed is legal, but the government totally dropped the ball on figuring out how to regulate it so the only way to buy it is still on the street (or grow it yourself). Kind of nice to be honest. We don't have all the terrible big investment weed industry crap because big business can't legally set up shop yet. Personally I'd like it to stay like this indefinitely but its surely going to end and the weed industry is going to turn into the tobacco industry :'(

== UPDATE == We're approaching midterm elections in the US, and many states are going to be voting on weed again. Lets see that map get greener. Reminder that you should look into the explicit wording of what's being voted on, because it's better to have no legalization than get botched legalization that give you government monopolies on a fuarrrking plant (like Florida's medical marijuana implementation and many other states' recreational implementation.) Some of these states are proposing amendments, and others are seeking legislative reform. Read up about it if you live in one of them and share your thoughts. Try to get past politics and partisanship, just understand that the one thing we all agree on is that cannabis should be legal, and preferably not regulated to death. ============================================= States that are pushing legalizing Marijuana through various means ============================================= Michigan North Dakota ======================================== States that are trying to decriminalize through various means ======================================== Ohio Wisconsin ======================================= States pushing Medical legalization through various means ======================================= Missouri Utah

Gays, guns and gunja are all legal in Maine. Come home, free man.

Weed map 2.0 yalls.Surprised Sununu didn't get outed, ngl. New Jersey is still waiting on their legal weed because of an inefficient legislative sector. My home state of Florida is completely soykaf on still. Hoping 2020 will be out year. North Dakota failed to pass their plan, albeit narrowly. Tell me if I missed anything yalls.

>>2821 You missed half of Michigan. >utah Well I'll be.. Wyoming still surprises me - They're usually very `fuarrrk your laws, I should be free to do whatever I want'.

>>2821 Medical is legal in Louisiana. Has been. Got some for Crohns.

>>2782 >botched legalization that give you government monopolies on a fuarrrking plant This sounds ok to me. What would be the problem?

>>2821 does "decriminalized" supersede "legal medicinally" on your map?

>Bill introduced in my state to legalize >"Uhhh... drugsrbad" -Local reps I hate glitterboys, dude