mescaline intake

San pedro powder is very dry and bitter, making it difficult to consume, considering how much of it is needed to acheive any effects. Can it be smoked instead, or would that destroy the mescaline? Alternatively, what are some ways to mask the awful bitter taste?

If something is too much to handle eating it, are you sure smoking it is a good idea? Pure mescaline would be horrible to smoke in itself, do you plan on smoking multiple dozen grams of plant material? It will be just as dry and bitter, but in your lungs this time. Put the powder into capsules if you can't handle the taste. Or just don't be a pussy. Vomiting is part of the ritual.

>>10761 man san pedro is the most disgusting thing I have ever tasted by far- people boil it down into mescaline tar, that way a whole cactus can fit in a couple 00 capsules

Definitely don't smoke it OP... even if it would work you would have to smoke so much cactus. Maybe you could perform an extraction and smoke it (or make some vape juice with it?) but that would require using a tek to extract to crystal which has always been a little much for me personally. I'm gonna be drinking a cactus smoothie tomorrow and plan to add both some saline solution (salt counteracts bitter) and simple syrup, both fairly high concentration so to avoid diluting it too much and having to drink more. I'll report back and let you know how the saline works, no one seems to talk about it but it's something I use a lot when cooking to cut bitterness so here's hoping.

>>10761 when i did it i baked it at a low temperature and salted it with lemon salt and tony's

>>10768 Drinking the smoothie now, sorry to report it didn't work OP never gonna be too lazy to put off making tea again, there's so much of this

Monk fruit extract or miracle berry will mask the taste.

What's good about mescaline versus other psychs?

>>10782 Fundamentally Mescaline (and 2C-B, which is derived from it) is VASTLY and I mean V-A-S-T-L-Y more forgiving than pretty much any other psych. That is one of the main differences. Experiences can be intense but they're significantly less likely to cause bad or experiences that are simply Too Much.

>>10782 I would say the number one thing is availability. Like opium poppies, it is easy and legal to grow the cacti in many places. >>10783 2C-B is neither derived from nor especially similar to mescaline. The experience is kind of similar in that they're both psychedelic PEAs but 2Cs are much closer to MDMA.

Please do me a solid lain, I came across these for sale and I need to know if they are worth the money. Also OP, I've never done cactus before but I think there is a way to concentrate it? I swear I saw a thread on the shroomery or something for mescaline processing.

>>10784 Something you hear about 2cb is that it's basically a mix of a stimmy and a psych

>>10784 alexander shulgin created 2c-b, basing it off the molecule for mescaline as a mdma with a less of an edge

Anyone ever tried to candy it? https://www.food.com/recipe/candied-cactus-219766

>>10761 Not to hijack this but does anyone know where to find cacti anymore? All the old sources seem to have dried up.

>>11521 they are not san pedro

Havent done mesc in over a year, God willing ill be having a nice 300mg trip soon. Mesc and cannabis are my favorite drugs by far.

boil the mescaline powder in water for like 4 hours, strain out the powder, then reduce the water to like a cups worth

>>12118 this is what i intend to do. there are many youtube videos describing variations on this process, op search san pedro extraction. some people say adding lemon to the brew reduces nausea.

>>11609 I think you're better off getting a mescaline analog designer drug these days if you don't live in Central America or the American Southwest. It's so frustrating that they used to sell San Pedro all over just at Home Depot. I fuarrrking hate the feds dude.

>>10761 Honestly, just use 2C-B. People who say it's "more like MDMA" haven't done it. 25mg 2C-B or more and you will see the porn fractals. It's literally the same psychedelic endpoint but cheaper and more potent. 2C-B is the best psychedelic ever. Memory fractals are so beautiful. It's so complex, total 3D worlds filled with fractals made of real world objects and memories and all the while you still have your internal monologue. It's seeing your own personality and experiences. :3 the world that is inside of you

>>12198 Also, be careful. You can literally control the effects of 2C-B and it doesn't give "bad trips" (the world is never ending like deemz), but it fuarrrking hurts. If you learn to control your emotions and not be worried you will have the most beautiful experience on Earth but if you don't it's beyond panicky and painful and achey. It is so worth it please try it it is the most slept on and beautiful and orgasmic psychedelic ever. Everybody who hasn't done it says it lacks complexity but the CEV's and peak experience are totally different but equally valuable to those of tryptamine psychedelics.

>>12199 CEVs are massively overrated. It's only cool the first few times. I've never actually experienced 2-CB or the "memory fractals" as you put it, but that sound fuarrrking awesome. We really need a better nomenclature for describing psychedelic experiences: https://transrightsactivist.medium.com/drug-effect-taxonomy-mk-iii-fe6f604c5dd3

>>12200 Here's the method if you wanna do it. Meditation (not moving chiefly, but also not trying to think) boots 2C-B and other phens crazy more than any other psych I've tried (although tbf they're the only psychedelic class where you can remember who you are or what you were doing during intense psychedelic states). What I like to do is drop 25mg, peak, on the comedown use a d8 cart and slowly take hits until I'm way higher up (weed is a MASSIVE potentiator for 2Cx drugs). Imagine totally 3D spaces where you can make whatever imagery or sensations you want to appear just by forcing yourself to try to think about them. I'm not kidding, and so few people actually allow themselves to see this part of 2C-B. Imagine creating massive spirals with beautiful women sitting all around them, or thought fractals where a sexual scenario grows from just a normal sober thought to growing, more complex paragraphs of internal monologue paired with hyper-realistic imagine depictions of that scene made with geometry. It's literally insane and not only does nobody talk about it but I find it also way more interesting than any of the other psychedelic endpoints I've experienced. Not only that, you can actually control 2C-B's effects. Literally controlling where you focus on on your body or what sense you wanna hallucinate or what information you want to seed into the hallucinations to then start seeing. Imagine literally imagery of hyperspace made up of actual real life things. Houses, stars, moons, oceans, statues, made of grass and dirt and brick and fractaling into more and more complexity. But, also, 2C-B can literally put the detail of hallucination into any sense so be careful. You have to avoid thinking about pain or worry or sad thoughts because it will be the worst pain you've ever experienced or the most self hate you have ever had in your life. It comes on like 2C-B slowly starts to cover up your vision more and more as you meditate and eventually you no longer are perceiving any outside sensory input and that's when the most complex and intricate and yet grounded visuals I've ever witnessed come on. Would highly, highly recommend. It isn't "spiritual"- there's no higher power, you're not seeing some other world. You're seeing the makeup of your psyche. It's like looking through the files of your brain's operating system. And you can literally seed what you want to look at by struggling to repeat words or ideas in your head while you're seeing that 3D world.

>>12202 And, using that same tool and the potentiation of human senses by the drug. Imagine the happiest you as a human being have ever been. Imagine that x1000. Imagine being in such a state of mental orgasm that you're sobbing and hugging yourself. The extent to which it can provide ecstacy is higher than any drug I have ever had (aside from 2C-E but they're kinda just the same drug but different potencies- you can reach the same conclusion). I personally think molly will never ever be able to match that, but admittedly 2C-B is a very much a solo drug and it's extremely bipolar in accordance with what you feel. If you start to feel sad, or let yourself become sad, you will feel like you have no worth whatsoever and that your nature is in horrendous and harmful folly. If you can manage being happy, you're the most beautiful and valuable thing on Earth. I literally cannot fathom why the 2Cx's are slept on so hard. They are so dynamic and beautiful.

>>12203 >>12203 Also, avoid like, 30mg and above. Use weed to potentiate it on the comedown and only go as far as you're comfortable with. Overdoses aren't scary. The world doesn't end. They are just very panicky and extremely zippy and stressful and they hurt really bad physically (painful, very realistic sensory hallucinations across the entire body). also, sex on 2cb is peak human existence, but it's really best if you're bottoming cuz you hallucinate being even more winded and warm than you actually are

>>12198 2C-B is the closest thing I have ever done to mesc myself, amazing stuff.

>>12202 >>12203 >>12204 Fascinating posts. Thank you for your contribution kind sir. And for what it's worth I def think your earlier theory that 2CX's are being slept on because they are more cerebral than visual is spot on. Most people just do drugs for the feelings or the visuals. It's the same reason so few enjoy dissociatives. Goddamn I miss MXE bro.

i must have done the boiling soykaf wrong and destroyed the mescaline or something because the only effect i feel is an indescribable amount of nausea. im lethargic as fuarrrk i cant even think straight enough to reword this post to get around the retarded spam filter. for 3 hours. fuarrrk measdsadmkjasyhsbda

>>12236 what dose did you do? potency varies.

>>12245 755 g of San Pedro 8cm x ~18cm and a smaller piece like 4cm x 10cm

op, mix powder with lukewarm water and put into asshole. no vomit taste. ez.

Looking forward to the first day of spring :) Any recommended vendors for organic san pedro seeds?

First experience of the year was extremely beautiful and blessed. Looking to do a second round sometime soon with a slightly smaller dose but taking it on a completely empty stomach. Last time I did 300mg HCL and a few minutes before ate a banana, next time im gonna do 220mg on a completely empty stomach to see how it compares. who else is enjoying cacti this year?

Looking to try doing 500mg HCL staggered over 2-3 hours on an empty stomach for the summer solstice. So excited. Whats good with ya'll cacti-bros lately?

Looking to get in another experience or two before this summers over. Thinking of doing 400mg all at once next time. Staggering the dose only works well when doing really high doses, if not it seems doing it all at once is best. God Willing im gonna give growing some a try next season, been a long time coming.

>>13217 >>13610 I have mescaline hcl I haven't tried yet. how much do I have to take to feel as high as 200 micrograms of LSD? I also have peyote buttons. a massive ripoff, I know it was, but how much do I need to take and what do I do with them? surely I can't just eat them like potato chips. the dosing info I find on peyote buttons is even worse than the hcl. some people think my 20 grams of peyote is enough for two people, others think it's enough for four.

>>13653 IME 200ug LSD is equal to doing 400-500mg mescaline, but keep in mind that mescaline is much different than LSD, they arent in the same family of psychedelics. LSD is a Lysergamide and mescaline is a Phenethylamine. Never done peyote before myself but always use erowid for reference. >https://erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_dose.shtml >https://erowid.org/plants/peyote/peyote_dose.shtml Hoping to have some cac myself later this week. God bless fren.

Tried an experiment of a low dose of cacti tea that was unfiltered so it still contained the plant material. Was a lot stronger than I expected for such a small amount. Definitely an awesome way to do it I have never tried. The low dose of tea + a low dose cannabis edible + a small cup of coffee was perfect. >>10784 I have always felt my experiences with mesc, 2cb, and mdma have similarities because they are all phenethylamines.

Happy times are here again. Who else planning on enjoying some cactoos for fall?

>>10762 This. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Having said that take some Mt. Dew with you as it helps calm your stomach.

>>12594 Does mescaline really feel similar to MDMA? I've heard some people say its the best parts of MDA + the best parts of MDMA.

>>14365 Its in the same family as MDMA and 2C compounds. Great webm btw, ssris, welbutrin, amphetamines, and benzos destroyed my dads life and we live on long island. Guess he must not have listened to this add.

did around 350mg the other day with my friend for his first full dose. had a blast and went to a show for the last 4 hours of the trip/

I'm planning to try mescaline in a natural setting this summee

>>14936 Enjoy that fren. Planning a trip for friday with some friends. Super excited. First group experience with cac we ever did. Gonna be doing around 375mg myself.

Just planted some of all 3 varieties of Trichs using takeaway tek. Anyone else growing?

>>15304 Looking forward to our first group experience with Mesc today with two friends. Each of us planning to do a slightly different dose. Very excited. Hope everyone has a blessed day! Hopefully going to the beach later.

>>15316 Just completed the full 14 hour grand pilgrimage. Always a blessing to work with this Medicine.

400 today solo was my most intense mescaline experience yet. absolutely astounding and low dose ayahuasca style effect for 10+ hours. done up to 500 before and nothing was like today. definitely always different with this. just passed the 12 hour mark, feeling a crash coming in. have a blessed night yall.

>>10761 make them into capsules so you don't need to taste, here is an old guide

Another astounding day. Anyone else? Really loving this medicine. It is one of the most slept on in history.

>>14373 Why bother with all that chinese lab sh1t in the first place when when nature already has everything we need? Shrooms, cacti, hawaiian baby woodrose, it's all there. I was thinking this recently when I combined hawaiian baby woodrose with around 75ug LSD, and I felt real self awareness for the first time in my life. I achieved what I sought to achieve with my previous acid trips where the forced, energizing effect was always too overwhelming. The hyperactivity was notably muted this time and I felt an extreme calmness. It was like I was looking at my life from the third person. I was intently staring at this tree and felt like it was reflecting various stages of my life to me. I could see through all my retarded delusions and reflect on the whole autistic ordeal that was my life. When I came down I left this little patch of forest on the outskirts of the city I hid myself in and felt an extreme self confidence and had no problem staring the "people" in the subway directly in the eyes. They propably thought I was on crack or something.

>>16736 hbwrs is honestly one of the best potentiators out there. have you tried the "madagascar" variety? it seems legit cause i only need 3 of those with a bit of dxm or mush

>>16786 lmao totally went over my head that my name was j.c denton and ur post had that deus ex pic

>>16786 I took 3 of those trip-e pills from "zamnesia" which apparently contain 150mg HBWR powder. Doesn't say anything about variety. Do varieties really matter? have any sourcerino about that stuff? I saw HBWR seeds for as low as 7€ for 50 seeds on ebay. So I wanted to try making my own extract. I can't say anything about the substance on its own since I combined it with acid, but I really think this is a powerful combination, bringing out the introperspective qualities of LSD and dampening the "hedonic" energizing effects. The sense of childlike wonder I felt days afterwards has been anything I have ever felt.

>>16802 i'll be honest i was hoping if someone could answer that for me, yes that is where i got them zamnesia lol i have absolutely no idea but they seem pretty darn strong to me and i never bought any other kind. i was always under the impression from others that you need at least 6 of any kind to trip but i found that to be not true in my case especially in combination with weed , dxm or mushrooms. 3 seeds and 45mg of dxm seriously got me quite fuarrrked up for some reason. never done acid but i have heard quite often now similar to what ur saying, neat afterglow with hbwrs 9/10 for me

>>16803 Hmm 45mg is way below threshold. Did the DXM effects surpass the LSA effects? Was it more "clear headed" or fuarrrked up?

>>16813 i completely forgot to mention i was on kratom and yes pretty damn low dose but i tried it without 45mg and the seeds hit a bit more mental effects, it seems to mess with my thinking more than mushrooms with less physical. the micro dxm dose along with kratom must have made me feel more bodyload but mentally clearer (navigating a playlist was easier). anyways i have done a bit higher dose (150mg) with the seeds and it was defintely adding on to the trip rather than intenfying it not sure if it does suppres lsa i think it depends when you take it as i find taking any dxm later on feels better and brings back the effects of mushrooms slightly where doing it as you dose a psy dulls the thought distortion and adds to visuals and bodyload

I just bought myself a growlight for christmas since my cacti would barely grow in this northern climate.

>>16824 Messed up my first attempt at Take-Away TEK but got more stuff to give it another try for the new year. Good luck on your cacti growing anon.

>>16825 I also have a shroom operation going on simultaniously. I already gathered all the supplies and built a shotgun fruiting chamber. These will be my projects for the new year. I was recommended psilocybe natalensis by shroomery since they apparently are mucb more contamination resistant. Maybe give them a try next time.

>>16831 nice got a SGFC going on here as well. doing PE and GT. Just checked my tekaway tek for the first time today to remove some excess water, and they are looking way better with my new and improved method. gonna set up the rest of them tonight. Doing PT SP and Bridge.

>>16831 Just planted the rest of my PT this morning. Got a good feeling this time, learned from the mistakes I made on the first round.

>>16824 BTW you do know that initially they need to have very very indirect sunlight, right? I keep mine in front of a window with the shades drawn, and that seems to be working perfectly so far.

Havent taken any M since last august since I did so much of it last year been on a long break. Strongly feeling like its time for a 425mg trip soon I been saving. Lately just been focusing on trying to master take-away tek and im getting much better results using the slightly different method than I did the first time. Planted all 3 Trich varieties from WSS, and got two other trich varieties from Mallachts plants which im saving for a future experiment. Definitely recommend doing the pressure cooker sterilization of the soil mix and then fully sealing the containers without any air exposure for a while. Also been using seed heating mats on and off. Gonna have to really access them soon to see how to remove any of the ones that arent strong enough to make it and start slowly acclimating them to a drier enviornment. For video instructions from the Masters on this subjects I been using Mallachts and San Pedro Mastery's Youtube channels. Very interested to hunt around for some Loph seeds or maybe even cuttings/rootings after I get some more experience with growing Trichs. Whats going on with all my fellow cacti brothers and sisters, its truly my favorite medicine other than cannabis.

Bumping my favorite drug. My last trip was the best yet, and when my pedros are ready I'm going big. I've tried every solvent extraction, tea, and smoothy. For speed my method: >Skin and decore >Blend >Add citric acid >Simmer while skimming the scum >Reduce to a sticky golden yellow honey >Neutralize the acid using calcium carbonate before it gets too thick >Swallow or buttchug

Its the first day of summer, and its looking like a beautiful day for some cacti. Blessings to all you fellow cacti anons!

>>18488 Did my first mesc trip of the year recently with 300mg of hcl. Really hit the spot, have not had any since my last trip on 400mg last august. Planning to do another 300mg round soon. Love it. Take-away teks growing good as well!

These are the varieties im working on with takeaway tek currently: San Pedro Bridgessii PT Ancash PT Tarma PT Matucana PT Chavin PT Huantar What types are yall growin?

>>17594 My various bridgesii and trichercereus cuttings are doing very well. But my peyote seedling attempts all failed ao far. I just ordered 20 seeds and will try "takeaway tek" this time.

>>18616 any recommendations for peyote seed vendors that will ship to US? been looking for that.

Cacti are love Oreganoli

>>18617 I'm in yurop. So can't give you any recommendations regarding US vendors. Sowwy. But for europe I got the seeds from garden-shaman.

What do you guys like to use to help with the crash? I notice that at least half the times I take mesc regardless of dosage it gives a classic phen style crash (mostly just a bad headache). Over the years I have tried a lot of different things to mitigate it. Obviously the best is a mix of opium/kratom and weed, but since I quit opiates for good that is no longer an option. Alcohol can help with the crash in the moment but once it wears off just makes it worse, I have found a mix of kava and weed to be much better, alternatively skullcap and weed.

Just got some LED lights on a timer to help my seedlings along. Have not taken any mescaline since the summer, thinking of getting back to it for the new year. >>18287 Thanks for this recipe gonna save it for the future.

Did the last 420mg of my stash of hcl for the first day of spring and working on growing a few varieties of lophs and a few varieties of trichs. God willing its gonna be another great year for this wonderful stuff.

you can extract the mescaline with straightforward acid base extraction, the chemicals needed are all pretty easy to source.

>>20260 https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/CIELO

>>20573 i wish this method was public knowledge back in the day when i was doing this sort of stuff. >>20260 it seems like it would be straightforward, but in practice san pedro is a goddamn nightmare to deal with in a liquid acid-base extraction. even in dry powder form it expands into a hydrogel and becomes a very thick mucousy slime when added to an acid solution and when you mix in your solvent to extract the alkaloids you'll most likely get a very stubborn emulsion layer that never wants to separate and best case scenario you'll get a very inefficient extraction because most of the mescaline is trapped in the slime where the chemicals can't get to it. if anyone here ever decides to extract mescaline from san pedro, i suggest following that CIELO tek that previous anon linked and definitely not doing the old acid-base liquid extraction tek. i've never tried the CIELO tek myself but from what i am reading it doesn't involve turning the plant material into a giant jar of snot first and that fact alone probably makes it a much easier and more efficient method. considering how san pedro powder behaves when it comes in contact with water and how low the mescaline content is versus something like peyote, i can't imagine being able to eat enough of the stuff to actually get any psychoactive effect. more likely you'll just end up vomiting up a whole lot of slime and not tripping at all. even peyote is notorious for being rather difficult to eat and get a proper dose of mescaline without puking it all up before it metabolizes.

>>20589 Fumerate > Citrate FTW

Another blessed day sharing in Gods Medicine.