lainchan / drug
quitting weed
Six · 2022-03-28 18:52
any tips for staying off weed / handling withdrawal? for some reason it's harder for me to quit than any other drug and I feel a bit lost.
BloodCat · 2022-03-28 19:10
It might be harder because the consequences seem lighter. If you want to quit booze or heroin there is more likely to be support because those are considered so destructive. Even cigarettes, you know they are harmful, it gives you an incentive. I guess you start by affirming WHY you want to quit weed and finding a way to remind yourself everyday.
BloodCat · 2022-03-29 06:20
I'm in the same boat, I have no trouble not doing coke, speed, etc and have mostly phased them out of my life but I can't seem to stop weed. I just don't have anything to look forward to if I'm not gonna get high the rest of the day.
>>10534
I'm trying this, but so far seems a lot more convoluted than it sounds.
John Doe · 2022-03-30 04:30
I heard this from an occultist. Instead of focusing on not smoking you should focus on breathing flesh clean air. By focusing on not smoking you are just constantly thinking about smoking. Thinking of fresg clean air you arent thinking of smoking at all.
Turner · 2022-03-30 12:48
>>10538
>I just don't have anything to look forward to if I'm not gonna get high the rest of the day.
Theres just quite nothing like the toke of the medicinal brocolli at the end of the day to round it off.
>>10547
>By focusing on not smoking you are just constantly thinking about smoking. Thinking of fresg clean air you arent thinking of smoking at all.
Just hows that for not thinking about pink elephants.
Well from my point of view its the other way round.
Its not rancid tasting as cigs, doesnt the nasty effects of drinking and the rest is either too expensive, toxic or just plain old too bothersome.
Drano · 2022-03-30 12:55
find god
it may be easy to say this as an orthodox but once you put a blood oath and place your soul into angels hands an ultimate servant to god ready to burn for eternity until saved by savior of burning souls archangel michael you will be immune to addictions basically
Jane Doe · 2022-03-30 21:29
exercise (particularly HIIT/cardio)
meditation
yoga (natural GABA helps calm you down)
Incognito · 2022-03-31 11:09
>>10554
>Theres just quite nothing like the toke of the medicinal brocolli at the end of the day to round it off.
Exactly, I can stave it off the entire day and keep myself busy, but I really really need it to quiet the thoughts and get to sleep. Shit this sounds really addicted.
Tank · 2022-04-09 05:13
>>10533
Ignore all the generic advice here. I would tell you that the best way to quit is to try and hide all your Weed in a closet far away from where you can not see it. Out of sight out of mind. Also realize you are going to feel very emotional and anxious for two weeks. Insomnia will be bad for a week. So it is best to try and make sure you run out of energy before the night is over. You will need 4 weeks if you were a heavy user and it will take 2 weeks if you were a moderate or light user who did it a few times a week. First time use is usually 3 days and less severe. Also try B12 Complex if you feel sad for the day. It might help.
Lady Jessica · 2022-04-10 20:22
I used to smoke a ton of weed till I got on meth full time. Then weed gave me panic attacks every time I did it, even after a year off meth. This is soykafty advice, I know, but meth definitely killed my weed problem.
Emmanuel · 2022-04-10 20:55
>>10627
>do meth to stop doing weed
lmfao
Pulse · 2022-04-11 00:44
>>10627
with this logic I guess death can cure any addiction
Das racist · 2022-04-11 04:48
>>10634
meth is a similar molecule to adderal and was once legal in germany. there is this stupid konst-chan story about some swede going too far on a 7 day trip on meth.
death doesnt cure addiction. addiction might be productive to think abt in terms of what are you trying to do with the soup that surrounds that brain of yours.
Das racist · 2022-04-11 05:05
>>10634
death is a cure for the addiction of living. just fyi in some places its also legal and assistable via medical reasons (just like weed)
Tyrell Wellick · 2022-04-11 14:40
Weed isn't addictive you're just a goon who's been smoking since he was 13 and don't know what boredom is or how to deal with it.
t. Goon
Dr. X · 2022-04-11 15:21
>>10639
>Weed isn't addictive
>falling for the same tricks big tobacco pulled
Drano · 2022-04-15 17:13
Just stop doing it... You will feel crazy, you will have dreams were you're smoking weed way after you stopped, and you know what, that's the fun
The Fin · 2022-04-15 17:28
>>10640
>"Cigarettes are the most addicted drug ever!"
>Not seeing the real trick
That way of thinking gives people an excuse to not quit.
>But it's hard!
No it isn't. Also, I believe both, that "not addictive" was marketing and that "more addictive then heroine" is also marketing. Memes are powerful.
Erik Johansson · 2022-04-16 15:13
>>10640
Weed is as addictive as Candy or Coffee. You can stop if you want to but it still takes time to get over the hangover effects.
Donna Hawthorne · 2022-04-16 15:26
coping is addictive and most of us were never taught how to cope properly, neither most of us have any means to. There is no chemistry I inject into my body when I'm watching porn but once I got used to it since I was like 12, it had harder effects on me than any drug I've taken
there is no easy way out without sacrificing part of your <self>, challenging and changing yourself in a way you don't need such cope anymore
Erik Johansson · 2022-04-17 19:21
>>10664
Would say that coffee is more chemically addictive than cannabis in my experience. I can stop cannabis on accident, forgetting to use it one day, and after a few days it is like I had been smoking nothing at all, nothing at all, nothing at all.
However I had once tried to stop using caffeine cold turkey, and the withdraw wrecked my week and gave me constipation and headaches to the point I was completely unproductive.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2022-04-19 16:25
Weed is only addictive, if your life is boring or if you smoke it with tobacco. I have quit tobacco a few years ago and recently went back to weed, vaping it with a dedicated device. It is in fact not as addictive as I remember, because I always smoked it with tobacco. Getting rid of all your tobacco is the first and most important step. Furthermore there is a difference between quitting a drug and staying sober.
Good luck lainon!
藤原純一 · 2022-04-19 19:02
>>10533
>any tips for staying off weed / handling withdrawal?
Getting off it isn't really that hard: I've done it hundreds of time already.
>*cue laughter*
Continuing on a more serious note: while it depends on how long you've been using and how much of it is stored in your body and fat reserves, the roadmap sort of looks like this:
>Day 1: easy peazy since you're still buzzed from the day before. Maybe in the evening you feel a slight tinge of desire since that's usually the time when you puff up, but you'll just go to sleep.
>Day 2; progressively harder since the brain fog is starting to lift. Another nuisance is that the body hasn't had its fix. Sweats, annoyance, pangs of desire now fill your body at multiple points in the day. Frustration and annoyance are common. You'll probably also lose much of your desire to eat and/or interact. Basically you're just the classical detoxing addict.
>Day 3: like day #2 only more intense. For light to moderate users, this day is the breaking point, meaning that if you get past this day, the hardest initial work is done. For heavy or long time users, this process of detoxification can take around two weeks.
>Days 4 - 7: (continuing for light/moderate users). Day 4 is one of the better days, since you're experiencing a clearheadedness which has been absent for a long time. There's a feeling of drive and determination which was mostly subdued before. You'll want to go out again, want to meet people and just generally feel like the world is your oyster. Most probably you've also have had dreams again, which is the biggest bonus of being sober **(except if you have recurring nightmares)**. Also, you'll be starting to cough up the black phlegm from your lungs. This is a strong and very visual reminder of what kind of trash you're actually smoking.
>Day 8 on wards: the toxins have basically been flushed from your body, meaning most of the body addiction part is cured. which leaves the most insidious aspect of THC addiction; the mental one.
Before I venture further on that, a few tips of kicking the bodily addiction:
- remove ALL smoking devices from your house, from pipes, to vapes to bongs. There has to be _NO_ 'usage items' around, since this will make it much too tempting to use.
- work out. sweating will flush the toxins from your body. this can be anything from hiking to HIIT, as long as you are moving. bonus if you can also visit saunas and/or steambaths.
- drink loads of water. same reason as above: to flush the toxins from your body. avoid caffeine and high sugar drinks, because these make you hyper and tense, which is what you absolutely do not want in this state.
- avoid overly fat or sugar food, since they will be a strain on your liver and kidneys, which are doing a lot of work in cleaning up the toxins from your body.
- to take the edge of your bodily cravings in the first few days, you can drink a few glasses of strong liquor. Only do this when you're not also prone to become an alcoholic, because you really don't want to change this for that. After the first few days, put the bottle away again.
- be kind to yourself and to your body; you and it are going through a rough time.
Now, onto the mental addiction. From my experience, most THC users use it for the mental effects; life - and most probably the couchpotato lifestyle you've developed - just feels more pleasant when you're buzzed. In my experience, trying to enjoy all the things you enjoyed when you were buzzed when you are sober is difficult, since you'll benchmark it to your experience when you were buzzed, making a relapse more likely ("this was much more fun when i was buzzed, so why not get buzzed to enjoy the things I liked before?"). What I've identified in this as the main reasons of a relapse, are boredom and routine. The boredom is obvious: no buzz = no fun and no fun = a trigger for using. The routine aspect is often overlooked and it consists of three aspects: mind state (i.e. how you feel), surroundings (where you are) and people (with whom you are).
An example: after a failed date with the cutie librarian, you feel bad and annoyed (state). You call your friend who also likes to smoke weed (people) and meet up at the bridge which is your favorite weed smoking point (place). Any of these three things could act as a trigger for you to smoke, meaning that either when you feel bad, see your friend or are at the bridge could be enough for you to start craving and subsequently start using. It's important for you to identify what could possibly be triggers for you. This will give you knowledge about yourself and grant you the ability to develop healthier coping abilities.
Other things I've found to be of use:
- Clean out your room / house. When you're in those first few days of sobriety, doing this is a most excellent way of keeping busy, while also being productive. There's also the symbolic layer of cleaning up your house, while you're cleaning up your body and mind.
- Pick up new hobbies. These will be free from the taint of THC. If you haven't already, look into yoga or qi gong. These can really help to calm a stressed nervous system. Martial arts is also great (Kickboxing, Karate). You can also sing, dance, paint,.. whatever. The world is your oyster.
- Break your routine. With this you need to be strict in removing bad influences from your life. Yes, this might mean cutting people from your life too.
- Keep a diary. Write down anything and everything during the process of detoxification. It will show you what you really want.
- See if there's help available in the form of counselors or support groups. Many people before you have gone through this and want to help you.
What's important is that you want it. When you have the willpower, all else will follow.
Hope this helps, OP.
>>10679
>Weed isn't addictive
That's a nonsense statement. THC is an addictive substance, which I can attest to since only after a decade+ of using, have I been able to conquer this dragons sway over me.
Hacker · 2022-04-19 19:07
>>10679
>>10681
To clarify: THC by itself _IS_ an addictive substance.
Netrunner · 2022-07-27 16:46
>>10639
???
People can get addicted to video games, masturbating, and gambling
The substance is less important than the addict
The Fin · 2022-07-27 20:24
Get some CBD only. That helps for me.
Switch · 2022-07-28 06:56
>>10682
The idea that a substance is inherently addictive is pretty misleading IMO. Basically serves to tell the user that the fault isn't with them, they were just a victim.
In reality users are the ones who form and reinforce the addiction, entirely of their own free will. The physical symptoms of drug withdrawal are the same as any rapid and radical change of brain chemistry.