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Would 50ml of GHB/1,4 BDO kill someone?
Ein · 2022-02-20 09:26
I read about 1,4 butendiol and how around 1 ml of it = 1 ghb when consumed by the body. Online it says going straight to 6g of GHB is harmful so I was wondering if I had 50ml of 1,4 bdo (which would be 48-500g of GHB) and consumed all of that 50ml, would I die?
if the answer is no then what if I increase it to 100ml?
It is said adding ghb/1,4 bdo/gbl to alcohol/vodka can make it deadlier but how much ml of alcohol would I need for 50-100ml of 1,4 bdo?
Some sources say 9650mg/kg is the ld50 (tested on mice) while i've read on the news about football players (who would be 70ish kilos max, by football I mean soccer so dont tell me how footballer are 200lb because i'm not talking about burger "football") died drinking 10 or so ml so I don't know how deadly this drug is, especially if im taking 6-16x the recommended amount.
Also before you guys say it:
I'm 56 kilos. I wont change my mind on life no matter what happens so either give an actual answer or dont comment here. I only "drank" alcoholic beverages 2-4 times in my life and I only drank less than 12ml of it (And it tasted disgusting as soykaf, all of them).
I'm never took drugs so my tolerance to them is probably low, my BMR is slighlty less than 1500 (lethality of the drug depends on your metabolism hence I am mentioning my BMR) and I already have metoclopramide so dont tell me to get that first
Drano · 2022-02-20 09:27
Before you guys ask why I don't use Nembutal or sodium nitrite.
Nembutal is very expensive and literally no one sells sodium nitrite where I live. There's none in drug sites like Darkode, no one in Wickr sells it (I got scammed by someone saying he sells it) it isnt on amazon, ebay and the places in the clearnet that does sell it requires you to get a license (for labrotory equipment).
GHB and heroin is more easier to get than SN (Although I dont get heroin because a lot of them aren't pure and wont killyou easily)
Junichi Fujiwara · 2022-02-20 09:28
and if it 50ml will kill me, how painful will it be?
Could I take benzos prior to drinking 50-100ml and be knocked out and is it possible for 50ml of 1,4bdo/ghb to be added to juice since I really dislike the taste of alcohol
Crash Override · 2022-02-20 14:09
anata to watashi wa neeto
Guthrie · 2022-02-21 18:41
>>10199
>How painful would it be?
I can probably answer that one. As like any poison and overdose, you'll have to go thru the effects before eventually dying. So it depends on how much you think you can tolerate before dying, because yes, it'll be somewhat painful/uncomfortable.
"BD/GHB overdose can result in unconsciousness, seizures, slowed heart rate, severe respiratory depression, decreased body temperature, vomiting, nausea, coma, or death."
(Taken from https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drug_chem_info/bdo.pdf )
(Personally, I think I could do without the seizures imo.)
Like you said, alcohol will increase it's toxicity and at least your death will be assured for there is no known antidote for GHB overdose.
I'm no amateur chemist, so I can't tell if you have enough to overdose on. Some other lainon could make a better guess than me.
Spooky · 2022-02-25 08:37
>>10217
I heard a benzo combined with GHB ensures a painless death. Do you know of any "places" that might sell something like etizolam.
Also you guys were no help in telling me the overdose dosage, fuarrrking reddit was more helpful, the ld50 for rats is 1.75/kg (for BDO, 1.7/kg for GHB) meaning 50ml wont kill but 100ml will
Spooky · 2022-03-13 19:36
What if I were to mix an overdose of benzos with a lot of alcohol? Could something like that kill someone?
Vasya Pupkin · 2022-03-13 23:10
>>10330
>What if I were to mix an overdose of benzos with a lot of alcohol?
Don't do that. It probably won't work and you may end up paralyzed or with brain damage.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2022-03-14 02:48
>>10332
>It probably won't work
Yeah, I really wouldn't want to be a vegetable for the rest of my life, but I really don't have access to illegal drugs like the one's OP has stated, despite being suicidal too. I have no idea where I would get something like GHB.
Lain Iwakura · 2022-03-14 07:53
>>10337
>>10332
What makes you think I have access to GHB?
I dont, I just see them on online black markets (Tor2door is one for example), I just want to make sure what i'm getting will work so I dont waste money on something soykaf.
Also I'm not taking benzos with alcohol I'm taking it with GHB AND Alcohol,
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Etizolam
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Diazepam#Dangerous_interactions
this website says etizolam and valium (both being benzos and one being easyish to get) are dangerous when combined with a depressent like GHB.
Jane Doe · 2022-03-15 15:34
>>10197
If you give a soykaf how comfortable your death is going to be, you're not making a very convincing case about how bad you wanna go.
If you really were that set, you'd have sat down in your bathtub with a razor blade and it'd have been over in a minute and a half.
Eldon Tyrell · 2022-03-15 21:26
>>10197
You just want to rape a 56kg girl, don't you? You are a sick fuarrrk.
Dr. X · 2022-03-21 08:29
>>10376
You do realise I'm still human?
Even if I want to die I still want to avoid pain. And dont tell me everything has pain because I know that, but there's a difference between having a mild stomach ache (The one you get when eating a lot of salt) or headache and having your stomach corroded from drinking bleach.
>>10384
No, I'm not you idiot, I want to die that's what. I know of 4 ways of guaranteeing to die all of them illegal:
Guns (Illegal and literally no one sells them, dont say something that only works in America because I'm not american)
Nembutal/Pentobarbital (Not only is it illegal but every person who sells it does so at around 2400 to 5000 dollars, I'm saying dollars for the americans reading this)
Sodium Nitrite (Not 'illegal' but heavily restricted, not only that but it's even harder to find than nembutal, it feels like i'm finding bigfoot)
Benzos + Opioids (Dont have a prescription so I can only get it illegaly which isnt a problem, the hard part is knowing which benzos+opioids to take, the dosage, etc etc and there's no fuarrrking place where I can ask this info because despite there being gore, drug and rape sites everyone is too scared of a suicide advice site)
I already tried hanging and it doesnt fuarrrking work so dont say that. I want GHB because GHB works by knocking someone unconscious (I think it does, because just like said, it's a date-rape drug) so if the entire point of GHB is to make someone fall asleep, surely taking too much would kill you and put you to sleep (So you die painlessly or as much as possible without spending 2400-5000 dollars) not only did psychonaut wiki say taking more than 8 grams is deadly but there's been news articles of fit, healthy people dying after taking small amounts. GHB however is too expensive so I have to use something cheaper which is where 1,4 BDO comes in, it's basically GHB but in liquid form and 1ml = approx 1g so I dont need to carefully measure anything.
If you know of anything that kills someone quick and not so painfully then let me know because the only choice I see is buying GHB
Masami Eiri · 2022-03-21 09:02
>>10452
Getting cut on the arm isn't very painful if you use a sharp razor, and after a little bit of blood loss its really not going to hurt any more.
It sounds like you are mostly coming up with reasons not to kill yourself. Which is admirablez all you have to do now is realize you don't really want to die.
Sage because thread is stupid.
Agent Jones · 2022-03-21 12:22
>>10452
probably you already know that, there is some suicide handbook book. I forgot how its called "Exit pill", or exit something, "Exit bag" idea comes from there. Maybe in the book there are doses for suicide by benzo+opio
Meddler · 2022-03-25 16:32
why was my post deleted? Read Peaceful Pill Handbook and Final Exit, then kill yourself already
Unnamed · 2022-03-26 08:51
>>10507
I can see your post just fine (if your post was talking about the final exit, exit bag thing)
Demeere · 2022-03-29 19:30
https://www.scribd.com/document/541253157/The-Peaceful-Pill-Handbook-November-2021-PDF
page 277.
It says take with meto and benzo. I got mezo but I cannot get benzos as easily, can I just use nytol instead?
Molly Millions · 2022-03-31 21:10
>>10543
which benzo? xanax is easy to score on darknet
Neuromancer · 2022-04-05 19:16
>>10567
it says a medium to fast acting one like oxazepam
Spooky · 2022-04-10 07:04
How do I die with heroin?
My plan is to buy 1 gram of 'pure afghan heroin' which would be 70-85% pure and snort all of it, is this painful and even a viable option? If it isnt who on Versus, Tor2door, Bohemia, wickr, telegram sells fentanyl and/or carfentanil, if anyone does just reply to me here or tell me what means of communication you prefer to discuss this matter
John Titor · 2022-04-10 08:56
>>10619
overdosing on heroin is not fun. use helium, it's painless. snort some heroin beforehand if you wanna enjoy it more.
Marly Krushkhova · 2022-04-10 10:39
>>10620
Helium has 20% oxygen nowadays so I need to use Nitrogen or argon, problem is I cant get one without a permit, the gas + all the necessary equipment are way expensive than H too weirdly enough
Hong, Guil Dong · 2022-04-10 19:15
>10621
No permit necessary, cheaper than 2TB of storage.
Stop making excuses.
Ein · 2022-04-10 19:23
>>10622
$60 is more than enough.
Y.T · 2022-04-10 19:36
>>10619
I've accidentally OD'ed on heroin multiple times over the last decade, ignore that guy claiming it isn't fun. Maybe snorting it wouldn't be fun, but here is what happens when you shoot an overdose:
depending on how big of an OD, you may or may not feel anything until after the needle is out. then you start to feel kinda high, and then nothing. literally the void. The high comes on so fast you don't remember the come up past the first inklings. if you get NarcAned or you didnt do enough to die, you come out of it feeling like absolute soykaf and dopesick (if you get naloxone) or you feel like a truck ran you over but are still high. Usually at this point you have paramedics over you or a loved one or friend screaming in your face and banging on your chest. it's confusing and you don't know what happened. If it's EMTs then there will also be cops, they will try to coerce your gf/roommate/wife/husband into letting them search your house so they can charge you with soykaf. they will make you go to the ER and you will get a fat ambulance/ER bill despite being totally fine at this point. Not that this part is too relevant if it kills you, I just want you to get a complete picture of how it typically goes in my experience. Personally I have never tried to die intentionally, but it has always been my backup plan for when the climate apocalypse gets more real in my neck of the woods.
I would definitely not try to OD from snorting it. unless you get fent it will be a lot harder to do, you will comeup way more slowly, and will be completely and utterly having a really bad time. think gradually suffocating over the course of an hour in the worst way possible. if you really intend to do this then shooting is the way to go. it is much easier than most people think, and fuarrrk i used to be scared of needles even and now i have no issue shooting anywhere on my body (not now, im mostly clean now, after I ODed on meth/H last year I now just snort every so often and take suboxone the rest of the time).
Also, if you are talking about "pure afghan heroin" on alphabay or some other DNM and it is domestic from a US vendor, it 95% chance has fent in it. even the vendors with half a dozen reviews claiming no fent. tar is the least likely to be cut with fent as it is way harder to cut.
Nameless · 2022-04-10 21:04
>>10623
>us dollar
I am not American. That also isnt taking in consideration the price of the mask (You cant just buy a soykafty mask since when you're unconscious your face will soften making the gas leave causing you to not die properly), flow valve (If it's too fast your fuarrrking lungs burst), etc
>>10622
the H I saw was cheaper than 148.99
Ivan Horvat · 2022-04-10 21:07
>>10624
>Also, if you are talking about "pure afghan heroin" on alphabay or some other DNM and it is domestic from a US vendor, it 95% chance has fent in it. even the vendors with half a dozen reviews claiming no fent. tar is the least likely to be cut with fent as it is way harder to cut.
It's on Versus and also I literally dont care about it having fent, in fact I want it to have fent since h + fent will kill you faster/better than just H alone.
Thanks for the advice however, I am worried I might miss a vein or something and I am squeamish around syringes.
By the way if you guys dont like talking here, you can message me on @maklongish on wickr, you can tell me all the vendors that sell Sodium nitrite or chloroquine, oxazepam, valium, etc if you guys know of any vendor who sells that type of stuff
Arisu Mizuki · 2022-04-25 14:30
They say to use Xanax as a benzo for GHB/1,4 BDO when killing yourself with it. How much Xanax should I take and should I take it before or after the GHB/1,4 BDO?
Nobody special · 2022-06-24 18:26
So did you decided on way to kill yourself?
Also interested if my savings try up I will probsbly kill myself with oxy or with gun or in worst case I will hang myself
Yamaoto Toshi · 2022-06-24 21:39
>>10872
Not yet, also I was wrong. For GHB the fatal dose is 150mg per kilo of body-weight.
Special Agent Bob · 2022-07-01 18:42
>>10237
https://www.bongochems.com/
usually pretty reliable, recommend clam over etiz if you're going for potentiation it's potent as balls
AnPsi · 2022-07-10 17:56
>>10349
>What makes you think I have access to GHB? I dont, I just see them on online black markets
if ur finna cop it online, u'd be better off gettin a trail mix of downers n takin em all at once. basically all downers enhance each other. most ppl ive heard that od'd on sum like xans also had alc or percs or sum. n everyone ik who died from em jus kinda slowly passed out. sometimes they homies didnt even realise they were gone until hours later.
>>10376
this. u shouldnt kys unless the relief of death weighs heavier in ur mind than the pain it takes to reach it
>>10452
>I know of 4 ways of guaranteeing to die all of them illegal
none of these guarantee a death.
and u missed drowning, jumpin from a high place, and car crash
>I already tried hanging and it doesnt fuarrrking work
then ur doing it wrong. put urself in a position where the rope is tight enough to cut off circulation and you cant undo the rope
> want GHB because GHB works by knocking someone unconscious
it does do this, but so do all other downers.
op, ur overcomplicating this. all u have to do is secure multiple high success rate methods for unalivin urself, and do them all at once. ie, drowning + gun + benzos. choose a location far away from ppl so they dont come check on u. stop worrying so much ab the specifics of how much to take of what. jus take as much as u can get ur hands on of everything u can get ur hands on.
that bein said, itll get better. ur whole life is ahead of u and it could be great.
Jens Hansen · 2022-07-17 22:39
>>10924
I am going to kill myself very soon actually and it isnt by GHB, I will send a link to a live-chat website here just in case anyone here wants to chat with me shortly before dying.