LSA General

From Wikipedia >Ergine, also known as d-lysergic acid amide (LSA) and d-lysergamide, is an alkaloid of the ergoline family that occurs in various species of vines of the Convolvulaceae and some species of fungi. As the dominant alkaloid in the psychedelic seeds of Turbina corymbosa (ololiuhqui), Argyreia nervosa (Hawaiian baby woodrose) and Ipomoea tricolor (morning glories, tlitliltzin), it is often stated that ergine and/or isoergine (its epimer) is responsible for the psychedelic activity. Do you know anyone who's done it? How was their experience?

I used to do LSA all the time, in fact I have some HBWR lying around and I I'm gonna start an extract on them soon. Thanks for reminding me. Here is a basic rundown - the best way to do it is via HBWR seeds, you only need like 5-12, (no joke, when I did 15 it was pretty wild) compared to 200+ for morning glory and ~50 ololiuhqui(iirc, never done that one). It can be pretty hard on the stomach because the seeds contain similar compounds to those found in apple seeds iirc - nothing too dangerous at these levels but many people experience an hour or so of nausea until things settle in.. Chewing fresh ginger root helps. Others I've met didn't experience this to such a degree so I presume body chemistry plays a role in that, but once it wears off its generally smooth sailing. Anyways, the experience is quintessentially 'lysergic' - I always described is as an unrefined acid trip - it just has that specific quality to it that only lysergics have.. Much more earthy tones and vibes, less visual intensity (but still some), very 'grounding' and can make you not feel like moving sometimes, but overall it ime it is a very positive experience, a 'real' psychedelic, and if you can handle the downsides is a wonderful chemical ally to have around, especially when more 'conventional' substances run dry. Would recommend trying it at least once or twice if you like these things. I always just ate the seeds (you need to scrape off the fuzzy coating first) but lately I've been looking into acid/base extraction as that should remove any discomfort, its just a bit complicated but nothing I haven't done before, just need the supplies.

>>758 How does one extract LSA from HB or morning glory at home? All the techniques I found on the internet require hard to find apolar solvents like petroleum ether or D-limonene.

>>764 I read it's literally as simple as leaving them in the fridge in a cool glass of water with tinfoil over it. After a day you strain out the seeds and the LSA is in the water. Never tried it before though. Look up LSA cold water extraction

I've done LSA around 5 times, it's a good fun substance if you have nothing better on hand. Take between 100-500 seeds and grind them up in any way you see fit until they're coarsely ground. At the least you should split open the seeds, but not grind them down into a fine powder which is harsher on the stomach. Place the seeds into distilled water with a splash of lemon juice to help it go down and acidify the water slightly. If you don't have any distilled water on hand boiling tap water and then chilling it will suffice. Place the mixture in the fridge and stir or shake every 15 minutes for 45-90 minutes. Filter and drink the contents, disposing of the seed matter. You should be up in an hour with no or minimal nausea. Sometimes it's better to go with less water than you think you need so you don't need to drink much seed goop. Happy gardening

>>776 >>764 cold water extraction is not as effective as a proper polar/no-polar extraction you can use something like petroleum ether (make sure it doesn't have smell additives) for your non polar solvent for your polar solvent use distilled water try to minimize light exposure, as uv can degrade lsa

>>758 Remove the outermost layer for the best experience.

I tried LSA once, but the effects were so mild that they were hardly noticeable. I got zero visual effects and I really only felt a mild headspace. Never bothered to try it again because getting real psys/RCs is too easy. Sage for ancient thread.

>>1809 >sage kek

please dont think these reports of people just taking these seeds are remotely valid LAA (or LSA as many call it) can be converted to LAH which is a much more powerful substance if consumed with Cumin or Peppermint

>>1833 People get high in LAA

I tried crushing a handful morning glory seeds and soaked them in alcohol drank the whole thing but nothing happened

>>1840 you drank the wrong part, dingus. Alcohol is a polar solvent - it'll only dissolve what you don't want. Water is nonpolar

>>1890 this is backwards, because I'm an idiot.

>>1912 *in that water is very polar and alcohol is relatively non polar (though technically just unbalanced enough to be called 'polar', it's far more comparable to non-polar solvents than it is to water). the alcohol-soluble part still isn't what you want, though

>>753 Hey I was thinking of buying some MGS seed for extraction. But a question kept bugging me Does extracted LSA still poison the stomach?

>>1945 get hawaiian baby woodrose, much easier to extract and more bang for ur buck use something called a "cold water extraction" with 50/50 water and vodka and youll be nausea free but still have the effects

>>1949 If I want to dry it I need to let it dry by itself with no sunlight, right? I can't just put it into an oven and do some slow baking

LSA is highly underrated imo. It's a great psychedelic, I've had a number of great experiences with it. You absolutely need to be smoking weed with it or you're probably going to be overwhelmed by the side effects (especially if you're eating it raw). I hear it goes great with DXM if that's your thing. I tried the combo once and completely blacked out so idk.

Tried HBWRs a couple times. Removed the skin, crushed them, lets it soak in water etc... But the whole tastes like soykaf, legs and stomach hurt a lot during the trip, even with weed. I don't know how you can enjoy that. The effects itself were okay but once I got real LSD and other substances I very much prefer those. I'll recommend it a little since its legal in many countries, but only because of that. I read above that you convert it to LAH. Might look into this. There surely is a lot more potential if youget rid of the side effects.

>>1970 https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Kash's_Advanced_LSA_Extraction This is illegal BTW, but after the extraction you end up with almost pure LSA Pure LSA means no more stomach intoxication and cramps