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Psychedelic Trip Stories
Frank Garza · 2017-11-19 19:37
Hello, can we talk a bit about Trips?
I find them to be really interesting an entertaining.
When I'm on acid, I often become totally introverted and begin thinking about absolute truth, as well as ethics.
Never really been on higher Doses, though.
Care to share? I'd love to hear some.
Frank Garza · 2017-11-19 19:59
>Never really been on higher Doses, though.
what do you mean by this?
Unidentified · 2017-11-19 20:08
>>1041
I did some LSD and it's analogues, but never on doses above 170 micrograms.
I can't really get a grip on my thoughts, when I'm tripping, which is pretty unfortunate.
There are just so many things to talk about, but there's now way to express what you're thinking.
I've been sticking to weed, since I started, I like to talk about new and weird concepts of everything or just listen to some philosopher.
But I'm still very intrigued by real psychedelics.
Lain Iwakura · 2017-11-20 16:14
acid, for me, is almost a way of getting the stuff on the deep inside and bringing it to the surface, temporarily. When I trip I often ruminate on subjects I have thought about before, but never really expressed. Last time I tripped(200 ug) I babbled about formal languages to my friend, and tried to explain the relation between languages and computation. I don't really understand the concepts myself but it was just fun to think and talk about. I never talk about that kind of thing when I'm sober.
I also do a lot of soul-searching about myself, my place in the world, my life goals, my relationships with others.... I talked to a forest about a breakup and began to accept who I am. Then it got dark and spooky and I walked around listening to upbeat music and thought I was impervious to the bad feelings.
Basically I think acid is a remarkably versatile drug. My trips have a very wide range to them.
Lord Nikon · 2017-11-21 15:38
>>1048
Did you take anything from your trips to your normal life?
Void · 2017-11-21 20:55
>>1055
sometimes, but I often find that thoughts and convictions when tripping are more ephemeral and don't last. Too easy to get distracted. The things that stick around are what I think about as I'm laying in bed afterwards, trying to sleep.
Unnamed · 2017-11-22 14:50
>>1057
I can really relate to that.
I've had many interesting thoughts and ideas, but the most "important" came from trying to sleep.
It's then, when I can think the clearest and I feel like assesing my life the fullest.
On top of that it's immensely fun.
I also think that most problems people have, can be addressed if they just think about them, and learn about them.
On Drugs my thoughts are a bit more giddy and not as functional, which is ok, but I feel like I can't really make use of the altered state of mind.
Neo · 2017-11-23 01:04
I find it very hard to be around people when I'm tripping. It feels like everything I say is stupid. Not in a "that was dumb" way, but more like everything is a complete non-sequitur. I'll stop halfway through a sentence because I completely loose confidence in what I'm saying. I guess I'm like that normally, but it just becomes even more pronounced when I'm high. Does anyone else get this?
Turner · 2017-11-23 15:31
>>1060
Yeah, me too, this kind of ruined my first acid trip for me.
I said super weird things all the time, not that anybody was annoyed or complained about it, but I just felt totally pointless and stupid.
After I became too uncomfortable to talk, I started being quiet, thinking and perceiving for myself only.
But then I always got this feeling, that everybody is worried about me, maybe this was true, maybe it wasn't ( there were two other people on their first acid trip but we were always separated by some other guys who drank and smoked weed).
I, for myself had actually quite a nice time, but afterwards I was really dissapointed by how it went.
It was stressfull, but not the way a trip is supposed to be.
Joey · 2017-11-23 15:32
>>1060
What did you do when you felt so unconfident?
Didn't anybody approach you?
Mario Rossi · 2017-11-23 19:28
>>1062
my second trip was much better than my first for similar reasons. Some people are just obnoxious when drugs are involved.
Drifter · 2017-11-23 20:05
>>1064
Actually, they weren't even rude oder of made fun of us.
They were just insanely
Motoko Kusanagi · 2017-11-23 20:07
>>1065
They were just insanely loud and too hyper active.
They didn't understand anythink, that happened.
For them, of course it was fun and all, but for us, it was just too much of everything.
Hagbard Celine · 2017-11-24 21:42
>>1060
I absolutely get like this, I associate it with a general anxiety I get when on acid. I always feel like I look really messed up and like I'm tripping, but I'm told that I look and act like a mostly sober individual, aside from a few physical tics and apologizing whenever I say something I perceive as stupid.
In spite of this, I generally like being around people on acid, especially other trippers if they're funny. Other people annoyed/having a bad trip definitely really worry me though.
Tyrell Wellick · 2017-11-26 03:40
>>1068
It took a while for me to learn that I seem totally sober when I'm tripping. I'm just weird normally.
Cereal Killer · 2017-11-29 15:30
>>1078
I think, some people just don't change, when they're on drugs.
It depends though. I also know a few who do a 180 degree turn, even on Weed.
Gyula Kovacs · 2017-11-30 03:06
>>1089
Some drugs for me make me into a totally different person and some do not.
psychedelics make me more like myself. opiates make me the most social, happy, productive person ever followed by the complete opposite. benzos turn me into a piece of soykaf who will steal from everyone and lie about it while holding said stolen goods and/or fall asleep.
Liet Kynes · 2017-11-30 03:22
One time I saw a UFO on the comedown of a 4-aco-dmt/3-meo-pcp trip. before you doubt the validity of what I saw hear me out. I was with two friends at a national park and we were going on a ~15 mile day hike starting at dawn. We all took ~30mg of 4-aco-dmt and I took ~5mg of 3-meo-pcp on top of it. we spent the whole day adventuring, traveled through two caves, saw condors, climbed up 3000 ft to the highest point in the park and watched the sun set.
now this is 8-9 hours into the trip, the drugs have all but worn off and we are all just a little stoned. it gets dark and we start stopping every 5-10 mins on the trail to look at the stars. At the same time we all notice what looks to be a satelite crossing the sky high up above the main peak. We are watching it when suddenly it stops and starts going in a different direction much faster, stops on a dime, changes direction again. I say "guys, are you seeing this" and just as I say that the thing lit up the ground around us, like a single strobe light. it could have lasted more than 1/8th a second. we all saw it and peceded to just stare at this star-like thing for the next 45 minutes as it rapidly would cross the sky, turn instantly, and cross it again. it didnt seem to really follow any pattern, but it never disappeared and reappeared elsewhere and had no discernible shape, other than looking like a star. Eventually it went behind the mountain and we lost sight of it.
I am not claiming this was aliens or anything, but it was definately an unidentified flying object. we all saw it for almost an hour and it lit up a 5x5 area where we were at the moment we started to talk about it. The three of us have gone back and forth about what it could have been for a year and a half now, with one friend convinced it was a heat seaking drone being used by the NPS to look for people in the park after dark (we were in a day use area). personally I am content to say I have no idea what it was.
pic is off the place we saw it
Terzibashjian · 2017-12-01 21:20
>>1091
is that Hurrican Deck?
Cowboy · 2017-12-01 21:20
>>1092
*Hurricane Deck
Zhora · 2017-12-02 20:57
>>1092
It's Pinnacles National Park, near Salinas/Hollister
Nell · 2017-12-03 01:57
>>1096
ah. I knew it looked familiar.
Roy Batty · 2017-12-04 00:54
I had painfully negative thoughts once while tripping with some friends, like that they are bad people that don't care about me and were using me and putting me in a fuarrrked up position. I told myself it was a hallucination. Now over a year later I look back and see that it was all true... or the trip planted deep-seated thoughts in my head
Motoko Kusanagi · 2017-12-05 11:29
>>1098
Obviously I don't know any background but it was probably true and you're just questioning yourself.
Meddler · 2017-12-06 22:20
Has anybody here got a horror trip by thinking about something horrific?
I once imagined on Weed, that there is some super high-pitched voice screaming at me.
I still imagine it today, but I find it more interesting than scary.
Also I often hear my parents talking even though I haven't seen them for quite a while.
Does anybody else get something like this?
Ivan Horvat · 2017-12-07 01:12
>>1101
The thought crossed my mind that there might be something wrong with my junk when I was peeing and subsequently I found it difficult to pee and it looked like weird liquid was coming from my dick.
I got through it by telling myself it was the acid and if it were real I could just deal with it after the trip and it worked.
Undisclosed · 2017-12-07 02:16
>>1098
You'd probably just never thought about how they treated you before that and the drugs let it out. I'd be in soykafty friendships and only realized after i reflected on it when it was over how many red-flags i missed.
Sipho Nkosi · 2017-12-07 06:27
I have many stories of acid use
I have experimented with a wide range of psychedelics: 2cb, 2ct2, 2ct7, lsd (blotter, liquid, up to 1000mics), mushrooms mdma 4-aco dmt dmt 4-aco dpt etc many more...
One of my most memorable was when i first started tripping. It was maybe trip number 5-10 (ive tripped hundreds of times)
200 mics and some bong rips later i was laying on my bed and watching colored lights morph and change while my wall was... melting. It appeared like melting wax, dripping. Ill never forget that stare lol
Another time i took 300ug of HouseOfSpirits GDF some of the best L i have ever been honored with... hit like a train. 15 minutes after liftoff i was sitting on my couch listening to Stairway to Heaven, about a minute in i just start crying filled with beauty and i kept repeating
Its... *sniffle*... sooooo... beautifulll.... *sniffle*
Another time a close family member of mine had his first trip as a result of me and we were walking to the park, coming up, he wanted to try 50ug first we get to the park and 3 of us in our group were like
Damn those railroad tracks are movin n groovin guy
Fam: what are you guys talking about? Maybe i should take another 50ug
Yeah lol went back took another 50 and go back to the train tracks and he stares and says
Ooooooooohhhhhh... damn
Great times... i have many more stories good and bad
Recently i made a bet to not do any substances for a month, only caffeine. I had my fun but i want to do acid less
The Plague · 2017-12-07 06:30
>>1101
I am>>1104
I used to be a daily stoner. After some time the only experience i had smoking pot was complete paranoia and feeling like something was wrong. Also weed is one of the few drugs i was honestly addicted to. Im sure some people dont get addicted to pot but i do... terrible fuarrrking withdrawals, irritable cant sleep depressed and dead for a week once i quit
Glad i quit
Unidentified · 2017-12-07 06:39
I am >>1104
Top 5 psychs/dissos:
1. 3meo pcp.
I love 3meo. Love it way too much. Was addicted to 3meo for 8 months and am 4 months sober from 3meo. Such a unique drug; every experience is completely novel, brand new, like youve never seen it before
2. Mescaline
Mescalito is the funky love child of acid and mushrooms... love the energy, chaotic and a nice long trip too
3. Lsd
Tried and true
4. 2cb
Molly without the amph... great to do with someone you love
5. 2ce
2ce is like an acid trip but with clarity of thought- i often write pages and pages of my thoughts and feel like an intellectual powerhouse
Batou · 2017-12-07 19:41
>>1106
how do you even find all these drugs?
Unidentified · 2017-12-08 01:23
>>1107
I think all but mescaline are easy to find on DNMs.
Jet Black · 2017-12-08 02:29
>>1108
It's hard to find a reliable domestic seller of 2C-B
Nell · 2017-12-08 05:47
>>1109
This is true. Last time I had it, it was from the silk road. I'd have no idea where to get it these days.
Haruyoshi · 2017-12-09 00:52
>>1107
>>1108
>>1109
>>1111
I got lucky with mescaline hcl. The rest are somewhat common- if you are okay ordering intl. (all you need is a friend with a clean house) 3meo there is a few bulk resellers who import from china. 2cb comes and goes but its pretty common. Mdma and L are v common domestic
I searched and have been watching for years now. I ordered often so i knew what vendors to follow
2ce was almost always intl but damn was it worth it. I love 2ce
Dr. X · 2017-12-09 00:53
>>1113
Mescaline has been dry lately. News down the grapevine is gamma goblins mescaline chemist isnt making any more for right now, not many mescaline hcl chemists
Delilah · 2017-12-09 00:56
Unclepsychedelic is great for 2cb been around for a long time. From EU low profile country iirc
Honestly ordering intl isnt that risky so long as you have a clean house, no nosy roommates/spouses, and order from a low profile country (not uk, nl, or germany)
Molly Millions · 2017-12-09 00:58
As far as markets go... i lost a bit with aero. All the markets are quite new, except for dream but dream is trash. I suggest zion and agora, although libertas is monero only- just not many vendors
Also the majestic garden just reopened public sign up so you can browse through the garden and find a vendor to dd for psychs
Morpheus · 2017-12-10 20:36
I had my first strong mdma trip yesterday and I chatted a bit with a guy, who later turned out to be an undercover investigator.
I didn't spill any (important) beans, but I felt totally destroyed, how he used me.
It was my fault and all for falling for it, but it still is terrible, how evil people can be.
Not really complaining, just wanted to share it, it makes me feel better already. Thx lain :)
The Fin · 2017-12-12 06:46
>>1115
I also recieved 2C-B from UnclePsychadelic. While it isn't in the US, he has really good stealth.
Miho Iwakura · 2017-12-14 02:07
I've tripped twice on acid and once or twice on shrooms. I really would love to explore the world of psychadelics more. With acid, I hear a lot of people talk about the afterglow, but the next day, I have a weird sort of hangover effect from it. When I mention it, other people say they have the same experience, but I typically hear people talk about the positive after effects much more. I did notice that after my first acid trip, I didn't feel like ingesting any psychoactive substances at all. I felt like my brain was right where it needed to be.
Lady 3Jane.. · 2017-12-14 04:52
>>1129
>I did notice that after my first acid trip, I didn't feel like ingesting any psychoactive substances at all.
that's very normal.
And yes, I usually have problems sleeping and eating during/after an acid trip and that translates to a bit to a hangover-like state the next day. I don't think it's a direct result of the drug.
Pulse · 2017-12-14 07:28
I took LSD twice in the past week, five days apart, for my first experience with psychedelics.
LSD is the strangest and most remarkable thing I've ever done. I'd get lost in these time and thought loops and I can't put in to words exactly what my mind was doing. It was almost like experiencing everything for the first time and it would cycle over and over. Sensory overload on a loop is all I can say. I kept trying to verbalize the mental experience and I could not do it. With my eyes closed music would play in brilliant geometric visuals on my eyelids. I went outside to look at trees and the same geometric visuals I'd get with my eyes closed would pulse through the branches.
Due to anxiety, insecurities, and depression I was a little worried but everything turned out great. The first trip was an amazing time with a great friend of mine. The second trip was with two new acquaintances and things got a little awkward a couple times (I'm no social butterfly and it sometimes takes me months to really warm up to people) but my good friend reassured me it was nothing to worry about.
I'd like to experience a guided trip. My setting was a bit chaotic for my tastes but I am glad I experienced it. I'd love a nature trip too, we were inside the majority of the time and it was freezing outside.
Interesting that my anxiety isn't kicking in while I mentally go through the past week. It used to be that I would overanalyze every little thing that happened while socializing and drive myself crazy with anxiety.
Unidentified · 2017-12-14 12:46
>>1131
That sounds wonderful, I'm glad that your trip turned out so well.
I only did medium doses of AL-LAD yet, but I'm really eager to try out more and other analogues.
It sounds to me like a gigantic new and open World to explore.
Special Agent Bob · 2017-12-14 14:17
>>1129
i think to prevent the hangover affect and obtain the after glow, you should start trip your in the day so that you can fall asleep at not too far past your normal and with most the psychedelic effects gone.
plus i find that tripping in the day is just more enjoyable, sunlight helps an enormous amount.
Unidentified · 2017-12-15 21:17
My first few ayahuasca trips were amazing until I realized I was in a cult.
Never got much out of regular psychedelics... Even 1200ug of acid didn't do much long term.
Drano · 2017-12-16 01:46
>>1137
What do you mean with cult?
Where you in South America?
Jens Hansen · 2017-12-16 19:36
>>1137
acid only does anything long term if you either a) abuse it or b) take the lessons/thoughts you had during the trip and apply them to your everyday life.
or if you microdose, I guess.
Unidentified · 2017-12-20 07:34
My very poorly written trip report (which describes my very first trip) was published in the most recent Lainzine.
Unfortunately I really didn't do a very good job of describing the whole experience. It was a mental/emotional rollercoaster in the best possible way.
In the article I talk about the earlier part of the trip where I was standing on the beach and laughing uncontrollably, but my writeup there really doesn't do it justice. While I was standing there staring up at the stars I was totally lost in my own world. I felt so free. My mind was consumed by an all encompassing feeling of the purest joy.
Unfortunately that is the one and only outdoor trip I have had the pleasure of experiencing. I just don't have any nearby areas where I can be reasonably sure I'm alone for the duration of the trip.
The Oracle · 2017-12-29 08:16
Once i were really depressed so went to some bar and have LSD. At the begging it was pretty cool, I had a lot of visuals and everything was in slow-motion but then when I were coming home I started to get anxious and paranoid so I ended up having a bad trip and since I were far away from home I had a bad time. When I get home I was frightened of everything and few hours later I was playing touhou.
Just another Random Lainon · 2017-12-29 19:09
Last time I tripped(200 ug) I found a dead spider on my pillow. This was confirmed as real by a sober friend. I thought I was going crazy and I saw spiders everywhere, but I managed to calm myself down and enjoy the rest of the trip.
Project 2501 · 2018-01-07 14:42
>>1152
The report really intrigued me, you described in a very natural way, yet you didn't loose your narrative direction.
It also sparked my interest in 4-AcO-DMT.
John Titor · 2018-01-09 17:23
I have the same experience, on higher dosages atleast. On 1-2 tabs I generally function normally and enjoy to play games with friends or something. I recently did 700 mics, which was the worst and best trip of my life. The visuals you get at that point are just incredible, colours and objects all just flowing outside their boundaries and everything just combining. Higher doses are really hard to describe but I would recommend it if you're experienced.
Apoc · 2018-01-10 02:18
>>1201
maybe in a while... I'd have to mentally prepare for a long time for a dose of that magnitude.
Yuki Nagato · 2018-01-11 03:05
>>1197
Well I am glad you liked it. I have tried a bunch of psys since then, but 4-aco-dmt is still one of my favorites next to DMT. In my opinion it is much smoother than acid, and I have not noticed any unpleasant physical side effects.
Hagbard Celine · 2018-01-11 03:14
>>1209
How did you prepare your trip? Was it a strong dose?
Most people say, that one should be very experienced and familiar with hallucinogens before taking DMT.
I think, diving straight in would be just as good, if not better. Haven't tried it yet, though.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2018-01-13 02:03
>>1210
I smoked it as enhanced leaf (which I made from the extract myself), and I strongly suggest you avoid doing that. DMT smoke is BRUTAL. It's like inhaling burning plastic. I am told that properly vaporized DMT is very smooth and you hardly even notice that you're inhaling anything, so look up DMT rigs on DMT Nexus if you intend to smoke an extract like me.
The doses were between 30-60mg. I was coming down from an acid trip and I was feeling brave when I smoked the 60mg~ doses the first time. I just sat down on my bed with the pipe loaded up and hit it as hard as I could. I sparked up several times and started to feel like I was slipping away, so I quickly put the pipe down and let it happen.
The thing about DMT is that it is quite short lived, so I smoked multiple times that night.
DMT is nice because it comes on really quickly and you don't have much time to get cold feet or anything like that. That doesn't mean it is impossible to have a bad trip, but IME if you are relaxed it will just whisk you away on wonderful ride. Each trip left me basking in this afterglow where I felt both elated and relaxed.
Random · 2018-01-20 04:07
I have an odd relationship to psychedelics. I think it's about 9 years since my first trip now, more if you count dissociatives. I've used a lot, too many times too much. Of course I'm diagnosed with various mental illnesses including a psychotic disorder. I've dealt with strange paranormal/psychotic experiences both sober and tripping for the past many years and it's never really easy to talk about the experiences.
A key feature I think many are already acquainted with is called synchronicity, I've come up with a load of theories for explaining away it and I generally try to dodge magical thinking and whatnot bullsoykaf as much as I can but those who've really delved into psychedelics in a way that the memory is figuratively burned into their spine probably have to agree that psychedelics if nothing else are really powerful at deceiving and confusing.
Easiest I remember the really bad trips, but I'd be lying if I said I haven't had any good times. You don't really spend a year dosing weekly/bi-weekly unless there's something enjoyable about it. You wanted trip stories so I'll get to that soon...
Psychedelics really scare me, at first I was really intrigued by them and went through a lot of effort to find them because I read a lot about them online and was amazed at what people were reporting. I had lots of philosophical opinions and psychedelics or hallucinogens in general seemed to contradict my whole view of reality so I just had to test whether they really could do what people claimed they did. Very nerdy reason to get into drugs, I know but that's what it was and eventually I found a group of other nerds to help me procure psychedelics online and do them together trying to push our limits and the limits of reality.
The doses we consumed then were fairly big, I think it was necessary to compensate a bit to gain some escape velocity when entering for the first times, eg. usual 2C doses were about 40mg and the first LSD dose was about 360ug. Psychedelics turned out to be in part a disappointment with my high expectations of reality bending but on the other hand they went somewhere really deep that I couldn't or can't to this day really fathom.
I remember some trips starting with me thinking "oh fuarrrk why am I here again why do I do this to myself", very early on I had many bad experiences or at least bad moments, but getting through a trip has nearly always been a very refreshing experience. It's only these last few years that I've started to get that putting down the phone thing where the 'insights' and 'lessons' start to feel forced, fake, repetitive and pointless guilt trips at its worst and at it is best completely devoid of any depth.
As a note, dissociatives have never given me a bad trip but they lack depth, the worst trips I've had are not actually from hallucinogens but synthetic cannabinoids and once even just from a joint after a long binge of various drugs. I have a somewhat peculiar reaction to cannabinoids, but that's another long story so I'll just try to post some trip stories that I remember now...
Freedom day 2011, that is 9th of November, or 9/11 for us Europeans I went across the street to my friends place where we dropped acid and watched a load of movies, I think LotR, Enter The Void and Waking Life. The acid hit really strongly and during LotR I remember thinking up some odd symbolism for the movie and it felt really strikingly meaningful (as usual but you can't really reason about it when it's going on), the other two movies were similarly impressive so I was starting to build up a really really strong mood that something big and meaningful was going on. After the movies we smoked a joint and I remember my friend saying about the joint something like 'well at least nobody's died of this yet'. For whatever reason I thought this was a joke about the fact that I had just died and I became convinced that I was dead. I tried hard to imagine something into the world like one might in a dream but that didn't work out so I guess I decided that even if I'm dead I have to continue on doing much the same.
I wen't home then across the street having a short encounter with some passerby in that way that one on trips often has strange encounters with strange people, but I arrived home and then everything started to turn really bad. I became convinced I ended up in the 9th circle of hell, while I thought this a fairly prestigious circle to be in I had all those usual fears of being stuck all eternity in some torturous space. I don't know how long the fear and despair lasted but eventually I went to browse the internet and everything was so meaningful still and I happened to come across a link to Roberto Benigni's speech on the European Parliament which he held after the EU had ousted Berlusconi and he held a humorous speech trying to convince everyone that everything was still fine and the restaurants were still full. I thought it was funny and of course some sort of meaningful coincidence like I've had a ton of meaningful coincidences so far on the trip. Inspired by this I decided to watch La Vita e Bella and I thought it was the most touching and comforting movie, I also listened to the Rolling Stones top500 playlist from top1 onwards in order for a while and I thought every song was just in the right place and telling a meaningful story from song to song with every word in their lyrics. I went to sleep thinking as about my last thoughts "how can life continue after an experience like this? this was too good, I wonder what tomorrow brings...".
Then come tomorrow I wake up to a bang on the door and a yell "Police!". We got raided for our little grow op, but it might've triggered something in me because that whole day I felt like the string of meaningful coincidences just kept going on like the trip had never ended. Sitting in the holdup at some point I was thinking to myself something like "hmm, this isn't too bad but... hmm... I could do with some food" and immediately I heard a knock on the door and some food was delivered. After ~7h of being held up and interrogated I was let out and I went back to my apartment first and sat on my computer and pressed next on foobar and the next song started to play which happened to be... Jailhouse Rock. Somewhat freaky okay, well I eventually headed to my friends place across the street again where we discussed the event and I started to get really freaked out about people reading my mind and the strange coincidences, I was entering my first really psychotic episode that I haven't ever really fully recovered from. At some point me and some friends went to a bar and I remember hearing one of my friends remarking something like "I wonder what people think of <me> sitting here alone with 3 pints talking to himself", that's probably not what he said but I felt like that's what he said. At the same time I was overhearing from every table around me random people discussing the events of today and what had happened to me and everything and I was starting to really freak out. We left the bar and I said bye to my friends and I decided to walk to the hospital reception and I said there "Hello, I think I'm schizophrenic, I'm stuck in a triangle", the receptionists asked me for my ID and I gave it to them and then they browsed something on their machine and mumbled "Hmm... contact person's name is <mother's name>" and then told me to go sit and wait.
I sat there waiting for a while watching the television but then I heard from the television "The name has already been given" repeated and so I thought oh yeah I probably should go to my parents, I picked up and left the hospital and walked to my parents place. It was night already though and everyone was sleeping but I decided to use the computer there and joined this channel I'd been in a long time where we often watch movies synchronized with each other and I noticed a movienight was just starting and today's movie was... One Flew Over The Cucoos Nest. As far as the coincidences went this one was fairly funny, I joined in on the movienight and watched the movie and again thought there was a lot of meaningful symbolism in it and such. Eventually I left back to my apartment and when walking there I decided that I had to stop doing drugs to make this coincidence hell go away and threw my ecigarette into a bush and went home to sleep.
The next day was my first sober day that became a period of 1½ years of sobriety and it was such a nice day for it as it was 11.11.11...
Well this story turned out longer than I thought, I guess I'll just leave it at that for now at least.
osting mode: Reply [Return] · 2018-01-21 07:33
>>1040
>thinking about absolute truth
holy fuarrrk same
>>1102
Similar to what happened to me on ,my last trip:
First group trip and im on twice the normal dosage i've taken before. It starts off super fun. Then i start peaking and start loosing myself. can't keep my eyes open feel like im spinning. My friends notice and they ask me if i'm good. I say "idk, i need to go to the bathroom". as i get up piss starts dripping from my legs and onto the floor. that started just a complete downward spiral of my trip. Freaking out i started to feel pain in my abdomen and i felt i was soykafting blood.
The pain was so real.
Long story shoty my friends called an ambulance and they took me to ER.
Turns out i didn't piss my pants. Turns out there was no blood. It was all a hallucination.
I haven't tripped since. I still want to trip - i just have to get over the fear of it happening again or i might freak out again.
Nobody special · 2018-01-21 10:08
>>1232
Thank you for sharing that was a good read
Nanashi No Gombe · 2018-01-25 16:48
>>1232
I must agree, that was an amazing story.
Marly Krushkhova · 2018-01-30 02:39
Continuing >>1232 ...
I said that dissociatives didn't produce bad trips but I forgot about Salvinorin A, which always produced awful trips.
I guess next I'll recount one of my top5 most awful experiences, memories are very hazy but I'll see what I can recall.
This was after a bad end of a certain type of bad 'relationship'. I was contemplating murder on a daily basis, I had actually been sober for over a month because I was on a revenge mission but I had started slipping on my sobriety and also losing hope on the mission ever succeeding. It was election day 2015, I remember this because my friend was bugging me to go vote for the party he supported and I promised to him I would try to go outside and get it done. But first I dosed what I thought to be DOC but later in a National Bureau of Investigation's lab report was revealed to be DOB. I tried measuring 25mg for myself, which was a big dose even for me with my neurolepts counter-acting psychedelics (usually I started at 10mg), but I accidentally put 32mg and I just thought whatever close enough, I had done 30mg single doses before but that was with tolerance and a heavier dose of neurolepts. It's probably up there in the world records for this particular chemical, the normal dose was from 0.5mg upwards.
The reason I had this much DOB to waste was that my friend had gotten some bitcoins selling on the original Silk Road before it came down and had gained plenty of money with the bitcoin price rises and had subsequently bought a lot of research chemicals with the money and he kind of dumped loads on me that I sold in his stead with plenty of shrinkage. I had been taking DOB for about a year every week or so, occasionally more. This was the insane culmination of that insane year. It went bad quick, I remember my last messages on the internet were something like "Oh fuarrrk, ohhhh fuuuuuuuck, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck". I don't remember too much about what I felt other than a lot of terror, I do remember there being a terrifying smell as well which in hindsight was probably from the carton of juice I had poured on the floor like turned it upside down and let it flow, for no reason I can remember.
A huge sense of urgency started to build up inside of me. I remember that it felt like I was being dealt some cosmic punishment where I had kind of been living on borrowed pleasure and now had come the time to pay back in full all the suffering I owed. At some point I decided I had to go somewhere and I picked up my laptop and started walking out of my room but my laptop was still attached to the powercable and other cables and I tried pulling it with me for a while but eventually gave up and just let the laptop drop on the floor and continued on my journey.
I was then living with my parents and walking towards the exit I met my dad and I tried to communicate something to him but I wasn't really able to say anything and he said something like "what? whats your problem?" and I have no idea what happened then in my head but I punched him and ran outside. Outside I started yelling something like "I HAVE TO BURN ALL OF YOU!", I ran up this one street and arrived at this bus stop and there were people there and I was about to say something to them but then I noticed I wasn't wearing any shoes and I think I just said "Wait a minute..." and ran back home to put on some slippers and then I ran back out but in a different direction, but it wasn't long that police came and tranquilized me and I lost memory until I woke up in some cleaning closet in a hospital with a load of people standing around me and one of them handing me pants and saying "put these on".
It was an unimaginably hellish experience that I can't quite do justice in describing, for like a year afterwards my whole attitude towards life was centered on avoiding ending up there again. Until I got worse memories I guess...
Jet Black · 2018-01-30 05:40
>>1257
One more...
Let's do something from the year 2016 as that was absolutely the worst year of my life other than for an okay short romantic episode occurring. It was the year of the US election and I remember spending one acid trip following the election overnight, the night being 'super tuesday' and eventually Trump started holding his victory speech and I watched it while his face was melting and we were playing rap music over it in a general cacophony (his entrance timed nicely with Eazy E's Boyz in the Hood...), but after a while I started to freak out about it I thought that Trump was being mind controlled by Chinese hackers, and while I realized this was silly the whole thing was just too much and I got up and ran out of the house for a minute until deciding it was way too cold outside and came back...
But that was all in all a good trip other than for the noise complaints it generated from neighbors, eventually I was sort of thrown out of that apartment or the landlady took it for 'renovations' but mentioned that she had been receiving weekly complaints about my noise.
This was a year when I had this crackpipe I loaned from a friend and I put at least morphine, fentanyl, crack, a-pvp (bath salts), xlr-11 (a synthetic cannabinoid), 3-meo-pcp (a dissociative), 5-meo-mipt (a psychedelic) into it and it was all the time covered in resin of who knows what that I kept on hitting. Awful, I know, it was an all around awful year.
XLR-11 or 5-FUR-144 was the absolute worst of it all. I had previous bad experience with 'noids (JWH-018) so you'd think I'd steer clear but no such luck. One day when me and some friends went to shoot at some targets while boozing and hitting the 'noid pipe and doing speed, after we came back inside I managed to overdose on the 'noid or something of the sort because from my friends perspective I straight up had a seizure on the floor twitching and screaming at the top of my lungs for ten to fifteen minutes or so, but what it felt like for me was that first I started to push through reality into another reality but then I pushed through that one and again and again it was like realities passing by at many realities per second instead of frames and then I ended up somewhere dark which was like some sort of crash screen and there was something just looping endlessly and I started to feel this tremendous guilt over having just crashed the universe and I felt like everyone who before existed was now in this space with me and they were all angry and making fun of me and I was convinced that was going to be my rest of eternity.
Other incidents with that chem include one where I tried to break through my own window because I wanted to go into the light, I lived on the ground floor so it wasn't really a danger especially as I didn't manage to smash the window and just caused a loud bang.
That summer of 2016 I was having panic attacks, psychoses and some sort of cardiovascular(?) problems nearly weekly for a while. There was one sort of nice vacation from all that I had when I went to spend about a week in this commune frequented by theatre people, I did WAY too many drugs there (smoke a bit of weed -> start to feel a bit anxious -> take some benzos -> start to feel a bit too tired -> take some stims -> start to feel too normal -> take some dissociatives etc. etc.) but somehow I handled it without losing my life or sanity completely. It was a nice trip and the place and people were really the right set & setting for going crazy, for example near the end when I gave up on trying to sleep at some early morning hours and went sitting by an empty campfire, looking around the nature is looking really magical with fog everywhere in the forest around the compound, looking around I start to hear some noises from the forest and I try to see whats it about and from the fog emerges a naked hippie dancing and singing...
But vacations don't last and the striking thing about the end of this one was that before I had left there I was having these panic attacks which I'm not sure if they were just panic attacks or actually some sort of cardiovascular problems where I felt this heavyness and trouble breathing and could nearly faint on occasion. In the forest I had completely left behind this issue but the _moment_ that I stepped out of the car bringing me home and was back in my town I nearly fell to the ground fainting as it all came back instantly.
Well, that went a bit off the rails, I was gonna tell the story of this one LSD + DOB + 3-MeO-PCP trip that was a horrendous nightmare but it's getting late so maybe some other time...
stinky Pete · 2018-01-30 16:48
> Be me
> done acid twice before
> those times went very well.
> the third time i decided to take two tabs.
> around 2 am i begin to cry hysterically as i thought everyone had died.
> Ineedtorunhome.jpg
> begin running pass out on a persons lawn.\
>wake up on the police stations front lawn
> have weed on me
> knew the cop
> get picked up get my clothes back.
> they didnt take my weed
John Rain · 2018-01-30 16:58
> be me
> acid every day for two years
> NOT ME ANYMORE
> who is making this post then?
Joe Bloggs · 2018-01-31 18:45
>>1258
how do you get all these drugs? I can barely find DMT.
Ivan Horvat · 2018-02-01 17:13
>>1267
Well DMT is a fairly rare one here at least. Where I've gotten drugs has been mostly through friends and of course the internet.
Like I explained a friend of mine was an early SR1 vendor and has always been somewhat deep into the drug world. He had a connect to a few smugglers that would do trips to central Europe and who had contacts with some factories there that produced ecstasy pills and other stuff and also who were happy to relay packages from Chinese factories that the smugglers would then bring home that were then distributed to investors. I happened to deal for my friend occasionally and often put some of the profits back into the smugglers until one of them disappeared (later found in a foreign prison) and the other had a psychotic break. But my friend always had drugs about him, and I mean like insane amounts like millions of doses of some research chemical etc. But probably best not to talk about it too much even if these days he's in prison too and it's all history.
Mentat · 2018-02-01 18:17
>>1267
The dark web. Look for pushing taboo/gamma goblin for acid.
I've been hammering the acid recently. I got 50 tabs intending to give many of them away as Christmas presents. The day after I placed the order my friends told me they had a bad experience and had decided to stay away from hard drugs. In the past month I've had about 25 tabs. I keep being a little worried that it's going to affect my behaviour when I'm not tripping, especially with work, but it's been fine. Written loads of code as well.
Just another Random Lainon · 2018-02-01 20:01
>>1270
I'm already far in there, but finding rare chems like XLR-11? Reliably actually being the chemical advertised? Practically impossible on the dankwob.
>In the past month I've had about 25 tabs.
that's really not healthy. People who do that usually don't come all the way back, if they come back at all.
>>1269
oh wow.
Unknown · 2018-02-01 22:46
>>1272
Posting links is probably not allowed so I won't post any. But eg. if you search pastebin for "research chemicals" theres a ton of pastes, the problem is ofc finding reliable ones, back in the day there was safeorscam for discussing shops but I'm not sure if it exists anymore.
Then Chinese labs you could find on like alibaba just searching for something and browsing suppliers, it's possible it's gone more underground these days, but eg. if you search globalsources for "research chemicals" and just check the info of the first results supplier you should find an interesting site...
Nemissa · 2018-03-12 17:18
This one happened just last night!
I took three tabs, hoping to practice meditation for a bit and hopefully get a mostly "inside" trip. Unfortunately, the fear stayed in the back of my mind that I might have a bad trip. I think this anxiety really made it what it was.
he first couple hours were great, and meditation was rapidly abandoned in favor of looking at the crazy hallucinations in the walls. Music felt stupendous. It felt like there was liquid on my hands that I could taste.
The fear of a bad trip stayed with me. I kept thinking, "what if I see spiders everywhere?" And lo and behold, the geometric patterns on the walls formed into the shape of spiders. For some reason this didn't bother me. I knew they weren't real, and after a while I mastered even the slight panic that came with seeing them. This happened several times throughout the trip but was not the majority of the experience.
What really did get to me after a few hours was how dirty everything was. This came with a really oppressive noise and feel(the room quite literally got gloomier and dingier and cobwebbier as I noticed it, which I thought was cool) and really really threw me off. I tried to calm myself down by watching SEL, which took all my concentration to follow, but after a while the surrounding noise got to be too much and I had to hole up in my room for the remainder of the trip.
From there it was the usual comedown for me: an extended internal monologue where I ask myself big questions and try to answer them. At some point I fell asleep. And here we are.
Lain Iwakura · 2018-05-08 08:57
I took LSA the first time I tripped. Held back throwing up for almost an hour until my girlfriends parents came home. We ran out the back of the house and I threw up the mash of seeds onto the back lawn as we ran into the woods. I was having a nice mellow trip until I had to drive home because my mom wanted the car. It's funny how weird driving feels while tripping, almost unnatural. The trip went full blown panic after my girlfriend put on M83. I like M83, but one song should never be played for a person tripping. Car Chase Terror played and I freaked out and had to keep myself from pulling over and running into a field.
The second time I tripped I bought a bag of mushrooms from a friend. I got no specifics on how much to take, just that they were strong. I took the whole bag. I shrugged it off because I felt nothing. Went out for a cig at around midnight and looked up at the moon. The clouds looked strange. I started to feel weird and said I could control this. I looked down away at the sky to the street, lit up by the full moon. The street was filled with thousands of gears all moving. Then, everywhere I looked I saw gears. I rushed back inside and laid on my bed and turned the lights off. The visual effects were intense. For some reason I remember seeing Hello Kitty surrounded by geometric shapes. Hello Kitty scared me in this state so I turned the lights on. With my mom in the next room sleeping I clutched my knees and pushed myself not to scream. For some reason I tried to call my friend who wasn't awake. But then I tried my sister, and this was around two. She actually stayed on for a while with me. She told me the only thing I really needed to hear at the time. That I was still here and I was safe. I spent the rest of the night in my bed with the lights on and my eyes closed. I couldn't gauge time, but I was swimming like a dolphin in my bed for a while. As the Sun started coming up and I started coming down I laid awake for a few hours in my bed.
I didn't really know what to make of it at the time. I still don't know what to really make of psychedelics. I will say they have made me feel connections to other people are important.
Also, fuarrrk you M83 and Car Chase Terror!
Guthrie · 2018-05-09 03:05
Its weird my brain has a mental block to talking about this stuff. Whenever I hear someone discussing it I get this weird anxiety and dont want to tell them even if they push me. Its not cause of trauma or anything its like this "ugggh this is so much to go into and like who cares"
I've done high doses of LSD and some regular shroom and molly doses, and a DMT dose just under breakthrough. I guess il throw in ketamine too which i've kholed so quite a bit.
Ketamine was the weirdest, DMT was the most powerful even not breaking through. My friends say I got stuck in "The tunnel", and it was extremely shocking and frightening, not traumatic. Just so frightening, I wanted to run or fight but I knew there was nowhere to run and nothing to fight. Imagine if just right now your whole reality started dissolving around you, scary is the only word. As I said I didnt breakthrough as far as I know. All I can remember is the world dissolving and me forcing myself into my head, and then realizing even my thoughts werent safe from this dissolving. But I never completely left rrality, very close but never got there.
Best way I can describe ketamine on high doses is that game "Hylics". Everything is so weird and alien, nothing makes sense. Time completely stopped making sense, and I didnt understand how I got where I was or why I had a roomate and was at college and such. Everything was moving, visuals are strange they arent really organic at all, just bizarre.
Acids my buddy, though recently its just been a bit too exhausting due to length. Most I took was 8 tabs, I dont remember much but everything became one. The patterning you usually see on individual surfaces became so powerful everything was one pattern at my peak, like an organic machine. I felt myself about to disconnect from the world but held on. I remember my friends had some nature show on and I couldnt tell what anything was, or what I was looking at. Somebody I know said acid and shrooms are like software updates and bug fixes for your brain and I kinda agree as much as I dont like the phrasing.
Shrooms I always get very sleepy, obviously I cant sleep but I dont get sort of hyper like with acid. However there is a moment on every single shroom trip where I crawl around and climb around my room like an animal. Its a brief hour and then im back to just being very calm and yawning a lot but not being ready to sleep.
I know psychadelics have caused me to be very in tune with my subconscious. I always know my subconscious reasoning im doing things now. Its also made me a lot less judgemental.
HELIOS · 2018-05-14 21:55
>>1736
Is Ketamine enjoyable? Is the risk of a "bad trip" high?
Hylics just happens to be one my most favourite games and I'm also super enthusiastic on trying Ketamine.
Sipho Nkosi · 2018-05-15 12:16
>>1761
It used to be very enjoyable for me cause on low doses you just chill the fuarrrk out and everythings comfy. After kholing its like I see the pathway everytime I take it in my brain and its not unenjoyable or enjoyable just weird.
I snort it so its easy to dose comfortably. Like only increasing when I feel comfortable with where im at already. You def could have a bad trip with ketamine because what happens as you higher the dose is things stop making sense. Everything seems alien and weird, and its almost impossible to describe how weird you will feel. I remember doing lines and I got to a point where if my roomate got up and started asking me questions I knew I wouldnt be able to respond like a normal person and if he tried to press further I might have freaked out.
Its not really like a standard trip. You dont always hallucinate again except on high doses and even then its very strange hallucinations. Weird tearing effects or things stretching or getting so lost in your head it feels like reality.
IMO chance for bad trip is less than acid, however if the plan is to khole id argue its higher and you also are far less in control of your body. Everything can stop feeling real and completely losing your reality while seeing it all around you is bizarre. Even music is weird, you dont really feel it like you normally do its very distant and tin canny and starts to sound minimalist. Even though you know all the instruments are there it feels like somethings missing.
I guess I would say you really have to try it, and try just a line or two first and you will start to get a feel for it and you can decide from there if you want to dissasociate further or just enjoy feeling like you are sitting on a comfy couch while lying on the floor.
Nobody special · 2018-05-15 12:18
>>1764
oh also other thing I tried dxm recently and it felt like baby ketamine but not as comfy. so if you tried that good comparison.
Debbie Charteris · 2018-05-16 22:38
I tripped on shrooms recently and had a horrible time. Everything was so...grotesque. I remember the people I was with talking about how amazing and magical and beautiful everything was and I just didn't understand what they were seeing or feeling. For me it was like everything was made out of rubber, or plastic. It all squirmed and writhed and twisted and bulged and was so sinister and artificial. I couldn't stand to look at it, any of it - peoples faces were the worst. All bug eyed and evil. It made me feel that there was something wrong with me. Like I didn't have a right to exist in this world at all.
I was quite depressed for a few weeks afterwards
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2018-05-17 03:26
>>1779
Could you describe your other psychedelic experience? Have you tripped on shrooms before? Acid? How often?
Tank · 2018-05-17 05:45
>>1779
the best place to have your first experience is in nature. I've had similar experiences where everything around me felt artificial and disgusting, it never happens in nature
John Doe · 2018-05-17 06:51
>>1785
Not him but maybe, but I also think it could be something else. I think there is a correlation because in nature you are free of a lot of societal pressure. So I know why you would think that and in some cases definitely. But I know what he's talking about and as this poster >>1781 I asked this because for me it was a reflection of how I subconsciously saw the world/life. It was just manifesting visually, and the key for me was in accepting the grotesqueness. Not seeing it as sinister, or evil. I can't change the interpretation of it as gross necessarily but I can change my connotations that I have with that image. Now I usually only get that feeling of grossness on higher doses, but it's not frightening anymore it's like gross in a fascinating way. Like looking at an oddly shaped worm.
It also was partly a reflection of the fear of my own subconscious. I read lovecraft a lot/watched horror movies when I was young cause my mom was into them, so I had this deep rooted fear that exploring the completely foreign and unknown would result in me seeing horrors beyond imagination. This was more true for DMT then for Acid.
I know this might sound like dodgy dream interpretation stuff but for me it's very real, like I know psychadelics have bridged the link between subconscious and conscious for me, it's one of those things that I have no question about like not even using words to describe it it just IS whats happening in my head. Though I think many who frequently trip feel this way.
The only thing I don't really relate to is "artificial" in his post. To me it's grossly organic. However perhaps he is reffering to the patterning, which does for me on low doses feel very artificial and after tripping enough I can predict what something will look like tripping. However my body feeling (and the whole trip experience for me is connected) is still that very gross organic alive feeling so it sort of results in me not interpreting the visuals as artificial.
Anyways you definitely could be right, I just wanted to provide that alternate idea. Tripping in nature is still great though, especially at night for me. It's spooky in a haunted house fun kind of way, and because everything is so obscured by shadow you get some really strange and intense visuals. However I don't have access to complete wilderness so I trip in a large forested but constructed park that has lights here and there which make it a lot more visually interesting at night, it might just be too dark and you'd only get corner of the eye hallucinations in complete wilderness at night.
This actually brings me to another question, do you guys prefer tripping in the day or at night? For me night time is a must.
Armitage · 2018-05-17 21:35
>>1785
>>1781
I've tripped a few times on LSD before; the first time was really magical and I had a great experience. The second time, same dose and setting, went quite badly. I was on my own in my room and was having a conversation with...something that kept trying to convince me to kill myself (this was all in my head). I spent the majority of my first trip listening to music and having a wonderful time; that time it all seemed to not.make sense, like I couldn't even tell if I was just listening to static or someone screaming.
The shroom trip was in the outdoors, though we had peen at a free party before hand so I was probably still drunk/pinging a little bit. That said, I didn't do anything that nobody else did and I had a vastly different experience.
I want to have a good time with psychedelics, because I know how fun it can be - would it be a good idea to just use small doses for a while, to get my head used to it? The very first time I took LSD I had 125umg, but didn't really feel it that much. The first proper trip I took double that and enjoyed myself a lot.
Liet Kynes · 2018-05-20 20:02
>>1786
I prefer daytime trips. I really dislike having my sleep schedule disrupted, and with acid I get this weird thing where I'm forced awake but my circadian rhythm remains the same, so after about 10 or 11 AM I can't fall asleep no matter how tired I am. The whole next day after a nighttime trip it's like I'm sleep deprived but much worse because of the lack of finality that sleep brings, It's like the comedown is extended for 12 hours.
>>1787
>would it be a good idea to just use small doses for a while, to get my head used to it?
Not a bad idea, but at the same time if you've already felt the effects of 250ug and know how to prepare yourself for them there's no reason not to do that again.
Liet Kynes · 2018-05-24 01:36
I have tried acid a few times and I didn't like it at all. Other psys have been much kinder to me.
Every time I have taken acid I have been assailed by anxiety, dizziness, restlessness, dread, and all around bad vibes. That isn't to say that it was all negative, but each time I have tried it the trip has been terrible overall.
If I was in one place I would feel claustrophobic and restless, so I would move to another room or go outside. Once I had moved, I would get the feeling like I had been there the whole time and I had merely imagined being wherever I had been before. This would make me move again, and it would repeat.
Inevitably I became more and more upset until I was pulling at my hair going "Make it stop. Why the fuarrrk did I take this soykaf? What's wrong with me?" until I managed to knock myself out with Xanax.
Those brief moments of good vibes still make me want to try it again though. There was one point in my first trip where I felt pure bliss. Everything around me took on a perfect "flow" and I felt as if everything was exactly as it should be. I'd like to feel that again, but I am scared of those awful feelings.
I would like to trip with someone I trust, but I'm a friendless loner, so I don't have anyone like that.
Marly Krushkhova · 2018-05-24 21:23
>>1799
usually when people have bad trips like that it's because you're afraid of the experience.
You have to have no fear whatsoever. Surrender yourself to the drug. It's the only way to get whatever you're seeking out of it.
Hououin Kyouma · 2018-05-28 02:39
>>1806
The thing that gets to me is the slight stimulant edge that acid seems to have. Like I said, I wander around and I just can't get comfortable. By the time things are picking up I am very agitated and restless.
>no fear
I will admit that I get nervous pretty easily. Other drugs have been more gentle though. Despite the fact that I was shaking like a leaf when I used DMT, I still had an excellent trip.
I do plan on giving it another shot though. I will have to plan something out in the future.
Emmanuel · 2018-05-28 13:46
>>1799
I used to feel exactly like this every time I took acid.
Then I started taking double the dose, which was scary the first time but it really helped. None of that anxious "I need to be over there, no, now over there" and I just seemed to be on the same level as everyone else enjoying the trip.
Reminder not to take psychadelics too often, while they're fun I've seen people take them daily/weekly and end up in an institution.
Fred Nurk · 2018-05-29 15:32
>>1811
Disagree kind of with last bit, I dont doubt you have of course. In my opinion it depends on how much stock you have in reality. If you are someone who doesnt do things "because thats just what your supposed to do" or you never think you are right you can take it quite often. Thats not a diss to people who dont, its surprising how much we all can think we understand we dont know it all and then be surprised. There is things we consider to be very basic that arent really real, down to slight inflections in how we speak we assume create a certain effect to much bigger things.
However even people like this, I dont think ive ever seen go insane but have reached a point where they dont function as normal people. The amount of ego destruction can be incompatible with society, the person can be perfectly lucid but simply lack care for things society requires out of majority to run smoothly.
For me personally I feel like I have one foot in the door and one out, I used to trip every weekend sometimes more, doses up to 8 tabs. However after taking dmt I slowed way down. I didnt break through but got stuck in that transition period, because my brain almosy confronted menwith the reality that if I did continue doing psychadelics I wouldnt be able to accomplish many things here and would put more stock in what these drugs show then in reality. Neither path is good or bad in my opinion, but I simply care too much about whats going on down here to do that. It was as if there was a big important message that I could see if I want but it wasnt meant for me, my place was to make things good for people here in society not know cosmic secrets or whatever.
Faye Valentine · 2018-05-29 16:01
>>1811
It's hard to say because so many people who take too many trips weren't on an even keel to begin with and turned to psychedelics "seeking answers" (ie., to sort out the mess already inside there). Surely drugs didn't help but I always wonder if they are the origin of the trouble.
TheStranjer · 2018-05-29 18:19
This is one I had this Sunday:
>go to frat house
>drop acid with couple brothers
>play smash bros for a couple hours, have a deep, meaningful conversation about anime titties
>end up noticing that the path of egress to the fire escape is blocked because Jake (the guy obsessed with "the rules") locked his bedroom door over the Summer
>end up breaking into Jake's bedroom
>as we're picking the lock, we all chant, "we're fixing the rules!"
>wrap everything we can find in his room with saran wrap
He's going to flip out when I get home. Still amused.
TheStranjer · 2018-05-29 18:20
>>1814
When he gets home*
Drano · 2018-06-02 01:12
>>1812
what you just described is pretty much the definition of psychosis.
9 times out of 10 the people who end up with psychosis weren't using real acid, or they were using acid plus a whole slew of other things(deleriants and dissos being the worst). The other 1 out of 10 were unstable to begin with.
When used correctly, psychedelics are safe... they're just usually not used correctly
Eldon Tyrell · 2018-06-02 08:17
>>1825
If you're correct about 1 out of 10 people being unstable to begin with, consider that said instability may be extremely difficult to detect from within, or lying dormant. So there's always a risk that you may be blindsided by a problem you didn't know you had and the psychedelics will make your whole mental situation much worse.
Masami Eiri · 2018-06-02 20:22
>>1826
probably, but even then it's almost always still a decision. If you have an abnormal reaction, or if you have trouble re-integrating reality after your first trip, caution is necessary. It's very rare that someone will suddenly snap on their first ever trip, it takes sustained use.
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2018-06-02 20:24
>>1827
and, in the case of you not knowing you had problems, the psychedelics will make it much more apparent to you or people close to you, which is a good thing.
Mental preparation pre-trip is also very important. My trips are always much better when I meditate or otherwise try to be extra calm for a day or two before dropping.
Yu-ichi · 2018-06-02 21:29
I had 2 trips (yet). I take 200ug 1P-LSD.
Both were very different. The first was with a group of friends, we just talked a lot and had lots of fun, while I was in the 'high' I felt like I was on a pirate ship. It was weird but funny.
My 2nd trip was different, I was more stressed, I saw great galaxies and space monsters (I never felt threaten by them or anything). Whenever I come down I feel alone and after the last trip I had a mild depression for 2 days, happily it went away. I plan my next trip in 2 months, already looking forward to it.