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Underrated/Obscure drugs

Drifter · 2017-05-01 02:27
What are some obscure or underrated drugs that you guys reckon need more attention? I'll start: Kanna This herb is imo, the closest to a "perfect" drug as you can get (moreso than caffeine). Slightly stimulating and euphoric, the reason why I love this drug so much is because it doesn't make me too high. It doesn't feel "unnatural" for lack of a better term. I've actually found that if I take it when I'm already happy, it doesn't quite lift me up to some insane euphoric place. It's like it has some ceiling. The effects are subtle, and the experience is best with low doses imo Also, as far as I'm aware, it has no ill side effects. Can be smoke, snorted, chewed, or eaten, for heaps of different results. It also takes out the head fog from cannabis. The only 10/10 drug I know of. Yet it's not popular.... Another one is DiPT This is more of an obscure drug and I have yet to try it myself. From what I've read, the experience isn't exactly always pleasant, but it's the only drug which produces heavy auditory effects. Read the wikipedia and erowid experiences it sounds mad. I'd imagine it'd be like listening to myself use Audacity when I was 10, except live audio.
Anonymous · 2017-05-01 05:03
>>172 I don't know why you'd call kanna "obscure", many Dutch headshops market kanna to hell and back.
John Titor · 2017-05-01 06:51
NSI-189 PRL-8-53 Cerebrolysin Agmatine Piperine (not really obscure, but people should use it more) Harmine (not obscure too, but, wew)
Dujour · 2017-05-01 13:04
>>174 Huh. That's interesting, and also good to hear. I'm from Aus and here, no one except hippies know what it is (in my experience at least) Also, I should've made it more clear in my OP but Kanna was my "underrated" pick, and DiPT was my "obscure" pick. >>178 Noted. I'll have a look into these
Meddler · 2017-05-01 13:14
Gabapentin it's like a benzo but better in every way. The only bad thing is that you can't just take it all at once, you have to take smaller doses an hour apart because the bio-availabilty is like kicking dead whales down the beach (not sure if I'm using that term correctly, basically your body can only use a certain amount at a time so if you take it all at once you ill only actually get a small amount of it into your system) If I had to describe it I'd say it's similar to the kinda sloppy drunk feeling of a benzo, but at least in my experience you don't black out or have memory loss in high doses, and there's also a sort of speedy, stimulant effect at the same time. Oh yeah and it potentiates alcohol a lot, one beer will feel like 3 so be careful if drinking.
Unidentified · 2017-05-01 13:29
>>188 >Gabapentin Wouldn't Phenibut be better? >bio-availabilty It's probably a tolerance issue, not bioavailability, IIRC. But, if it's really bioav. could just get piperine together to solve that. >Oh yeah and it potentiates alcohol Yeah, it's a GABA agonist too... Memantine also has the same effect, but on stimulants (it also reverse tolerance in some substances, like amph and caffeine).
Incognito · 2017-05-01 18:11
>>189 >phenibut never tried it so I can't say, people say it has similar effects that's all I know. >probably a tolerance issue, not bioavailability I have practically 0 tolerance, and other sources seem to say it is to do with oral bio availability (sources: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/470294-Maximizing-Gabapentin-bioavailability https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9714500 )
The Plague · 2017-05-02 01:28
>>172 >DiPT I want to try this so badly. I looked everywhere for it a while ago. All I could find were a couple out of stock RC vendors. But it's one of the drugs I most want to try, because it just sounds so unique.
Elliot Alderson · 2017-05-04 15:35
>>188 >>189 >>191 I take phenibut and drink all of the time. Really you need to watch your ass with it, withdrawals can only be completely remedied by something called Balcofen. They will sneak up on you fast as hell. Considering you can really only buy pheni in "bulk" (cheap regardless) you must be careful with it. Stuff is sick though. I wouldn't compare it to a drunk feeling personally, actually allows me to function better after some drinks. But i am a mess. It will dehydrate you to a large degree so drink your water and research the stuff if you ever think about getting some. I flushed 90% of my supply down the toilet the other day in an attempt to hard taper. It really is a withdrawal worse than alcohol or opiates.
Dujour · 2017-05-04 15:37
>>192 >>172 I too have always wanted to try DiPT. My friend only used it once and then he either got caught with it (we were in highschool) or threw it out. He said he felt nothing from it at all but sounds sounded different. He said his girlfriend came over and sounded like a man, he wasn't messed up but was really trying hard not to laugh at her man voice. Sounds so interesting, i will never forget learning about that stuff.
Y.T · 2017-05-04 16:18
love
Mentat · 2017-05-05 06:48
not at all obscure but i've recently been taking painkillers recreationally tramadol seems to be my favorite, though i haven't tried hydrocodone or oxycodone. i enjoy the feeling of my body; i don't mean like sitting there touching myself (although the scratching is nice), but i notice my muscles and it feels very nice to just exist in a body which is constantly sending me nerve feedback. i'm super aware of being a brain with complete power over a specific set of space. so much information is being given to me by the nerve endings in my body. painkillers put a kind of filter over the information, so even mundane things can be interesting to pay attention to. i get a similar feeling in my neck when i take acid. it's sort of like i'm tensing the muscles, but without actually doing that. i find myself closing my eyes (occasionally rolling back into my head, also feels v nice) and just taking deep breaths. i've found that a moderate dose of tramadol (~100mg) paired with smaller doses of other things like weed, cigarettes, or even shrooms is very enjoyable
Pris · 2017-05-05 14:34
αMT is a pretty interesting drug that was sold as an antidepressant in the USSR during 60s. Its chemical structure is analogous to amphetamine, with a tryptamine base instead of a phenethylamine one, and it kinda feels like speed, but with a mellower and psychedelic feel replacing the wired and tense character of stims. My favorite dosage was within the antidepressant bracket (5-20 mg), when you can feel the uplifting psychedelic effects without being into a full blown trip. I took some of it like this alone, or before seeing some friends to chill out or party, and it was pretty nice. Sometimes I had trouble connecting with people, but more often than not, the different perspective the drug gave me sparked some interesting discussions, or thoughts for myself at least. That said, it made me delusional on a couple of occasions with some girls. The drug made me think they were really into me...which actually wasn't the case... ;_; Nothing dramatic happened, but it made me say weird soykaf to them and I ended up being ostracized from a group of people because of that. I cringe a bit now, thinking about this, but whatever, it happened 5 years ago and they were boring and pretentious rich kids anyway. We live far away from each other now and I'm glad I will never have anything to do with them again. I also took some before seeing GY!BE live once, and it unfortunately made me quite indifferent toward the music. But, weirdly enough, listening the s/t Os Mutantes album at home for the first time with this drug was conversely a powerful experience. 30mg is the threshold for a real psychedelic experience, which is like LSD with a more stimulating character. I did the mistake to take a dose like this once before going to class, and ended up being stuck in a small apartment when the drug fully kicked in with some people I was often hanging with at the time. The thing is, they would have freaked out if I told them I was tripping on a discontinued Soviet antidepressant I bought online, so I tried to keep calm but it was a pretty unpleasant situation. I snorted a bit of ketamine during the comedown and it was cool, but quite powerful. At doses above 50mg, I've heard the negative effects (nausea, anxiety, muscle tension, jaw clenching, etc.) become overwhelming, so I wouldn't try that. Overall, it was one of the best RC I've tried with MXE. I don't know if it is still available though, it has been derezzed in the UK and China since then... Typing all this brought me a lot of memories from a strange time in my life, when I was discovering adulthood. I feel this weird mix of nostagia and gladness that these years are behind me now. I hated the place where I lived, and felt very lonely and misundertood during that time, but also had fun experiences and it made me grow up for the best I guess.
Fred Nurk · 2017-05-18 07:39
>>172 >>172 Any advice on where to find solid information on consuming kanna? I've checked erowid/psychonautwiki to no avail, and wikipedia gives next to nothing.
Hiro Protagonist · 2017-05-18 20:14
>>172 >Kanna Where can I buy Kanna seeds? I want to try growing it now.
The Oracle · 2017-06-08 11:42
>>349 As far as I'm aware it's best taken sublingually but this is from personal experience and what I've read online. So you just let it sit in your mouth for as long as you can muster (and ideally you should swallow at the end). Roll it around and cover all 9000 tastebuds. Alternatively you can snort it but I haven't found it to be much different except a quicker onset, slightly more noticeable, but shorter duration. I definitely prefer the sublingual route as kanna usually isn't as fine as cocaine so it burns your nostrils quite a bit more.
Tank · 2017-06-08 15:36
>>223 Be careful taking tramadol and psychedelics like shrooms, you can get serotonin syndrome and die with higher dosages. I really like tramadol too, I find it strange how some people claim to not get much of a high from it.
Pris · 2017-06-09 01:02
>>223 >>479 fuarrrk tramadol, that soykaf gave me a seizure. Be careful, anons.
Mario Rossi · 2017-06-09 02:18
>>480 how much did you take? Anything under 250mg seems safe. I took 450mg in a day once with no harm
Chan Siu Ming · 2017-06-12 08:54
>>172 Guys where can I buy drugs?(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST (Rule 4) Always elaborate on your opinions, Write a better post next time, don't ignore the pro-tip, Be smart when posting about potentially illegal activities.)
XERXES · 2017-06-12 12:25
>>491 I don't believe this is the thread to ask such questions so I created a thread just for you here: >>492
Nanashi No Gombe · 2017-06-26 20:04
TMA and TMA-x compounds are very intriguing. I've yet to hear anyone mention these. I wonder what type of experience it would result in.
Anonymous · 2017-07-24 01:54
Once received a free sample of 4 ACO DPT ((not dipt)) see https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=94380 I snorted it, tiny amounts, 5mg every few minutes. There is an overwhelming sense of clarity and this is a valuable compound. Very clear. Not too heavy body load. I can see it being useful while you are doing something else
XERXES · 2017-07-29 14:12
>>172 DiPT sounds idm as fuarrrk
Nell · 2017-08-01 17:09
>491 Nice try FBI :3
Agent Richard Gill · 2018-07-22 01:29
bump is bromo-dragonfly obscure enough? always wanted to try that, if only for its rarity (despite tons of dealers falsely claiming they sock it)
Pulse · 2018-07-23 16:41
>>491 give me your e-mail I'll fax you some
Lady 3Jane.. · 2018-07-24 21:54
>>2100 Oh come on, what do you think I am, stupid? You need my phone number for a fax, not my email. It's 1-588-5246. Thanks in advance, I'll have to get off the line so you can send that to me.
Turner · 2018-10-12 21:38
Nuerontin
Fred Nurk · 2018-10-14 17:27
Anyone tried dextroamphetamine?
Cowboy · 2018-10-14 22:41
>>2705 Now what the heck is that? Would you like to explain? Any experiences?
Meddler · 2018-10-15 05:21
>>2705 Dextroamphetamine is alright. But I actually would recommend not to use any kind of amphetamine salts chronically. It has some real addiction potential if you don't use it properly and it can fuarrrk up your body in long run. Use it only as a study aid.
Hagbard Celine · 2018-10-15 17:17
Akuamma / Picralima nitida In Ghana they crush the seeds and use it for everything like it's ginseng. I've found that it's an effective and cheap pain killer. Similar in power to codeine but it's also known to be toxic so large doses are something to avoid. It's also the worst tasting stuff I've ever had in my mouth.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2018-10-16 05:29
>>2705 is that really obscure its in adderall? Ive tried other pills which were pure dex tho. im struggling massively with an adderall addiction thats leading into other stimulant addictions. I dont reccomend adderall at all to anyone. Pills are so dangerous because they are taken daily by many so they seem safe to take daily or often. I just wouldnt mess with dex or regular amphetamine honestly. If you must do a stimulant id argue for cocaine, 40-80$ is a pretty heavy price tag for a night of fun as it should be. When you get something thats 5 bucks and lasts 6 hours , well thats a lot of fun compared to anything else 5 bucks could buy you. And its pretty easy to scrounge up 5$ in a moment, which addiction fuarrrks people up the most in a moment of relapse. Of course depending on brain chem you could love coke so much it wouldnt matter but... for me adderall and other amphetamines > any other drug in terms of harm to myself and others. Cigs are probs my worst addiction, but amphetamines hurt me the most.
Bob Arctor · 2018-10-17 01:35
pretty much all the obscure drugs ive taken have been soykaf. 3c-e is pretty fun, ive taken it twice but only at low doses. had me smiling all day and an overall good headspace, didnt notice a bodyload or it being overly stimulating like others report, but again i was on low doses. lasted till i went to sleep, slept fine with benzos, subtle afterglow. tried proscaline once at a low dose too but that's a bit less obscure, was nice though in the same ways 3ce was. only got around to trying the two of em recently and im definitely taking em again, and soon. mppp (the stimulant not the opioid) was mild but not in a bad way, absolute soykaf if you want something like mdpv but i dont like mdpv type stims, i was studying on it. only problem is that other stuff like 3fpm is better for this. mppp doesnt deserve that much attention but it deserves to at least have people know it exists.
Dox · 2018-10-27 16:44
I've been using propylhexedrine weekly for fun and for my dates. So far I have to say that its nowhere near as pleasurable as Adderall nor is it as good at maintaining my focus. In addition I've found that it can be incredibly hard on my body like MDMA as it raises my body temperature and promotes vasoconstriction. It tastes awful and burns my lip if it even makes contact for a second. I used to parachute the cotton but I've found extracting it with lemon juice seems to reduce the side effects while maintaining a similar high. I've heard of "lavender burps" being an issue for many users but it was never that bad in my experience. Though, to be clear, I've never used more than half of the cotton to begin with. I don't feel comfortable going over that dose anyway considering how dramatically awful this must be on my body. It's a decent enough stim if that's what you're after. Give it a shot if you don't have access to anything else at all.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2018-10-28 16:13
>>2765 Just want to recommend you don't use propylhexedrine weekly, bad for your heart and your head. Also, in my experience the hard euphoria from propylhexedrine usually is not present until you hit a full inhaler dose ("250mg", not really an accurate number since pharma prop caps out at like 75mg iirc). A full inhaler will fuaark you up btw, so be ready with a ton of benzos or booze for the crash. Nb
Ender · 2018-10-28 17:20
>>2766 Thanks for the information. I'll take that into account going forward.
Neo · 2018-10-31 08:40
>>2765 just attempted converting this stuff to a salt and then extracting a powder. fuarrrked up tho and instead got a paste. in general though I dont reccomend it honestly, the drug itself. What other anon said about full inhaler is true though. But the comedown is far too intense and its neurotoxicity is unknown but being a meth analog (in a way) its probs similarly neurotoxic. If you cant recognize it as a comedown your just going to be wondering why you feel so soykaf and will probably not be able to ease bad feels with "its just the comedown". Itl slowly make you bipolar almost, at least it did for me, and itl take awhile of not using to be normal again. To be fair adderall also does this to me but far less, with adderall I generally just feel unmotivated after stopping. This was more both no motivation and horrible mood. In addition you may not be able to smell it but if your just doing simple soda/lemon juice extraction or worse eating the cotton you will reek of the stuff. Most wont know what it is and I think the strong aversion to the smell comes from us whove eaten it. Still I dont want to smell like lavender and semen.
The Plague · 2018-10-31 09:33
>>2774 Also in conclusion and to give my take poster said he would reccomend trying it once. I would too but only if you have done other stims. The only reason im not eating these inhalers everyday is cause I'd rather eat/snort adderall. A person who has no access to drugs and has never done a stim may get addicted if stims are their thing and they just dont know it yet. At which point they wont ever seek out anything safer and will ruin themselves on this soykaf. However I mentioned an extraction and il post it here. Its not mine but I now have some experience with it and can add to what you might find online/simplify it. Arguably this is safer as it contains no impurities and you can control dosage easier. I said I failed but I did get some powder and know what I did wrong. You will need 1. Ziploc bag or funnel 2. Non polar solvent, most lighter fluids work 3. 2 containers 4. coffee filters 5. a flat tray or plate that can hold the liquid youl be using 6. the propyl inhalers 7. distilled vinegar (5% acetic acid). Most call for HCL but this works just as well and is safer. Replace any mention of ziploc bags with funneling with filter, gonna use ziploc bag method cause im keeping this as easy and barebones as possible. >Step 1: Stretch the cotton rods out, put in container 1 and pour enough vinegar to cover them. Wait 30 mins occasionaly stirring. >Step 2: Pour into ziploc bag with cotton, place coffee filter over container 2 and poke hole in bottom corner of ziploc bag. Tilt so all drains out into container two through filter. Squeeze cotton out into container 2 through filter. >Step 3: Place cotton into container 1 again, repeat steps two and three. You can use less vinegar this time and only wait 10 mins or so. >Step 4: you should now have a solution of propyl acetate and the oils free of any cotton or other solids all in one container. Into this pour your lighter fluid. About a fourth or a fifths of the liquid already present's worth. Shake/stir this up and then let sit for 5-10 mins. There should be a visible clear line of seperation between the lighter fluid and vinegar, if not you need a different kind of lighter fluid. Also there should be oils semi visible on top (like it would if you used lemon juice or soda or in the initial vinegar). If not stir it more or again you need a different solvent. >Step 5: Rinse out container 1 thoroughly to remove any oils left in it, its fine if theres some water drops in it. >Step 6: Pour the fuel/vinegar/propyl mixture into NEW ziploc bag. Hang it or hold it for 5 mins until oil seperates again. Put filter over container 1 and then again poke hole in corner of ziploc bag and tilt making sure not to disturb seperation. Plug the hole or move bag BEFORE the top layer of oils and fuel drains into container 1. >Step 6.5 (Optional): You should have a slightly cloudy solution in container one that is honogenous. If there is a layer of stuff on top you let some escape through ziploc bag. You can skim or siphon it off with a dropper. Id advise, especially if there was stuff on top/it still smells of lavender, to repeat steps 5 and 6 aka washing the solution with the lighter fuel. >Step 7: Pour your solution into some kind of tray or plate that can hold volume of water without spilling over. A baking sheet works nice. Let it dry in front of a fan ideally, this may take a few days. DO NOT HEAT IT OR TRY TO BOIL OFF LIQUID. This was my mistake, you will burn off the product at worst and at best you will be left with a brown (if it burned which it will) to off white goop instead of a powder. >Step 7.5 (not reccomended): if you must wait a few hours and then put it on low heat (enough to make container hot to touch but not boil). And then after 10-30 mins you can boil it but STOP before the solution is spread thin over whatever container/surface you have over heat. Id only reccomend if you put too much liquid. You also put it on something hot that wont boil it to speed it up but product will not be as god. >Step 8: Once its dried which may take several days, there should be visible white dry stuff coating bottom of pan/surface, if you did very good even crystals. Scrape it into a pile with a knife, razor, etc and you have your propylhexedrine acetate. It can be snorted, eaten, smoked or injected but smoking or injecting has resulted in deaths. Using over or even the whole 250 ml present in one inhaler at once via any methods could kill you or put you in psychosis. So start small and find your tolerance. Unlike the cotton it doesnt digest as slow (esp if you arent eating it) hence the danger. Always rinse the filter with a bit of water before using for ideal ending. Dont reuse the filters. Again do not get impatient and try to boil everything off and especially dont immediately try to because there may still be lighter fluid present which could combust. Lighter fluid will be the first thing to completely evaporate so at least wait for that before getting impatient. Both vinegar and lighter fluid evaporate faster than water so dont worry you wont be snorting either of those if its dry. This is very safe and largely odor free beyond when you first pour the solvents and there will be a vinegar smell as its evaporating but very easy to explain as people leave trays of vinegar out to purify the air.
Arisu Mizuki · 2018-11-12 21:57
On dimethylcathinone for the first time right now, didn't actually realize it was extremely rare until I tried finding out dosage information. So far it seems great for ADHD, with few side effects. That being said some of what I consider side effects others consider benefits, but it does feel super clean so that should be university praised. Got me to stop fuarrrking around and focus on getting my soykaf done with perhaps a subtle mood raise and literally nothing else.
Mitnick · 2018-12-11 16:25
Camphor This chemical is used as a fragrance and additive to snuff. The smell can be described as spicy, almost stinging, but fresh like a plastic version of menthol, reminding me of pharmacy shops. It is weakly psychoactive, inducing and boosting alertness, dizziness, depersonalization and short term amnesia, in summary describable as a mild religious awe or enhancement of inward focus. I evaporate it on charcoal during sessions with dissociatives. With LSD it did a decent job too, though the effects were a bit underwhelming with the acid simply overpowering everything.
Liet Kynes · 2018-12-24 18:05
>>192 A candian RC vendor just had it recently. I got lucky and ordered just in time. I think they're out now.
Dujour · 2018-12-25 11:18
>>172 I once bought a gram of 10x kanna extract, sniffed around 200mg of it and felt nothing.
Spoiled Omen · 2018-12-27 13:13
>>223 As a pain killer affiliate, I must warn you, when you start taking copious amounts of opiates, opiods, or anything in the mix. Realize the potentiating ability of tramadol. It's effective, but it makes some of us lose it when mixing. Don't do it. #harmredux yo
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H.R. Giger · 2018-12-29 06:48
I tried DXM with LSD once, saw colorful, glowing figures hovering on the surface of walls, doors, etc. Was the best trip I ever had.
Antani · 2019-01-01 16:47
2C-E seems very interesting. I'm gonna try that someday, it's on the psychs shopping list.
Lunch · 2019-01-01 22:01
>>3193 same here. Also want to try 2C-B and compare it to molly.
Project 2501 · 2019-01-01 22:07
>>3193 >>3195 also, I'm quite interested in the *-LAD family of drugs. They seem to be distinguishable from LSD in a way that the ALD family is not, but still close enough to be very safe.
fsociety · 2019-07-24 00:27
Tianeptine. I remember finding out about this odd "supplement" store with a variety of nootropics, which I put little stake in. They always seemed to me to be like nothing, specifically for someone with my addict brain who wants to get high. It was in a sketchier area, and the lady looked like one of those oddly cute tweaker girls (maybe i just find them attractive) and was acting pretty tweaky too. I almost wanted to ask if they had anything not listed on their website hoping for some real drugs, but I walked away with adrafinil and this tianeptine stuff. For one the adrafinil did increase my focus so ive changed my stance on nootropics, however obv it didnt make me feel high despite dumping a whole gram into my mouth. Thats my problem with noots though not A problem. The tianeptine however was fuarrrking insane. To me it felt just like a percocet, I knew if I took more id even start nodding. It was very cheap, and the dosage is small. Online I saw mixed reports on snorting, nootropics people tend to be very squeamish and always just say "are you stupid thats so dangerous", which yes but a drug user tends to not care about their body in the first place. However the nootropics redditors were right, not because it didnt work, but because it is the most painful thing ive snorted even more than meth or molly or pills with binders. It is also incredibly caustic, which I knew going in and just didnt care. Mainly cause in spite of how im presenting myself ive been relatively sober and health concerned for awhile. As such I wont be buying this again for the very reason it is so addictive. The high is short lived, about 2 hours. Its very hard for me to enjoy drugs these days because my addict brain is just worrying about it wearing off which is a blessing in disguise I guess. I well exceeded the 100mg dose I had planned. Taken with SSRIs it does not cause serotonin sickness, I saw some false claims that it will do that because they just saw the word serotonin with regards to tianeptines function and assumed. It wont increase serotonin in your brain. I have seen several reports on researching that buproprin takes a lot of the fun out of it, much in the same way it does for smoking. Not only will I be stopping using this just for my mental safety, I also can tell this is a substance that one has a short lived and ugly relationship with. If you are going to use it id advise experimenting with it very rarely I think being addicted to this stuff would be a pain in the ass and definitely not worth it. You just will feel stupid after for your little drug affair with babby percocet. Its apparently used for depression and I see how that could be helpful if the dose was kept small and consistent. It only really starts to feel like an opiod after doses larger than 50 mg. Im positive this wasnt placebo as I got too many of the standard symptoms I get with opiods/opiates like scratching slight nausea etc. and I expected nothing to happen. Also people in russia apparently shoot it up, which is sadly how you know it does something. Causes necrosis if you do so dont do that.
Jens Hansen · 2019-07-30 03:35
>>3179 I get wicked good visuals from just DXM.
Demeere · 2019-08-07 00:39
>>188 I really liked gabapentin (I took it for neuropathic pain) but I couldn't get hard from it so I had to give up on them, and continue using that soykafty addictive fuarrrking stupid drug tramadol
Pris · 2019-08-10 21:12
>>3179 What was the dose for each? I'm a fan of both but I'm nervous to experiment with the two at once.
Spike Spiegel · 2019-08-12 14:34
>>188 I feel like I’m the only one who can’t get high off gabapentin. I’ve read dozens of trip reports and know how to maximize the effectiveness so you get the best trip but I just can’t. Maybe I’ve got a really high tolerance, I do take 600mg every day or other day for anxiety, have been for a couple of months, but I’ve taken over 4000mg in attempt to trip but got nothing. I’m trying to take it for anxiety less in order for my tolerance to hopefully drop enough for me to get some enjoyment out of abusing it. I’ve got an untouched 90 count bottle of 600mg tabs waiting for my tolerance to drop so I can get some soda, some nuts, and have a good time. Fizzy drinks and fatty foods increase bioavailability, hence the soda and nuts.
Ivan Petrov · 2019-11-30 10:43
>>172 >Euphoria (sometimes called Ice but not to confuse with meth) A totally psychotic 50ish guy gave it to us on a rave a few years back, he shouted at us " do you want to be awake for 20 hours!?" While talking simultaneously to himself, that motherfucker was on 2ce+'euphoria' and god knows what els. He didn't lie though, we talked for around 20 hours, that stuff was neither speed nor meth. i did some research, this stuff came up in the 60's and is a combination of different medicament and chemicals but didn't go that well with the Acid wave at the time. wouldn't do it again because the comedown was the worst i ever had but if you are into speed/meth/rc's i would recommend trying it once i guess
Yamaoto Toshi · 2019-12-22 09:19
>>4023 just found out about this as well, any longtime users? Its great but concerned about how it plays out in long run.
John Rain · 2020-02-03 21:30
>Salvia Divinorum I just love the anhedonic absolutely bizarre trips I get. No other drug has ever taken me to the places salvia has. Salvia shows you the total chaotic universe without any filters. It is a lot like DMT, but not as nice. Everyone who seeks pleasure should avoid it. Anyone who wants to take a look behind the curtain we call reality should give it a try. Start with leafs, work your way up to concentrates if you want to dive in.
John Rain · 2020-02-03 23:09
>>4827 That description kind of reminds me of MDPV/"bath salts." Wonder if it's an analog. It gets a real bad rep 'cause of Florida man and such, but honestly I don't hate it. Pretty fun drug. All you gotta be sure and do is not have too much around at once, 'cause it will NOT ever let you sleep and has real problems with compulsive re-dosing. All the horror stories are actually rooted in the sleep deprivation it causes, not so much the actual first-order effects of the drug. So you make sure you don't have that much on hand. But it's basically super cocaine. Good times, would recommend. Wish it was still something you could pick up at the store.
The Phantom Phreak · 2020-02-03 23:11
>>5188 Oh yeah, somewhat controversial I guess but I absolutely love salvia. It's so interesting how little you can really bring back from the trip. It's too alien. But the memories are still incredibly valuable and strange. Definitely some of the times I've been furthest from my baseline mental state have been on salvia. Which is always of interest to a dedicated psychonaut.
Ivan Horvat · 2020-02-03 23:15
>>3193 2C-i is my personal fave, but this is gonna be different for different people. The whole 2C series is very special. Best of luck in acquiring a legit source, and enjoy. Really miss my good 2C source from back in the 00s. Just some nutbag who showed up at the Waffle House parking lot at ten in the morning looking rough as hell while wearing a cat outfit. Complete with ears and a tail. It was a butt-plug tail, by the way. He had every drug conceivable. He later got picked up, unfortunately. Really miss that weird guy.
Otto Normalverbraucher · 2020-02-04 01:45
>>3179 Been meaning to try this for a few months now...you've inspired me! Anyone still on here think that 250 DXM and 50mcg good or too much?
BloodCat · 2020-02-04 06:20
>>5192 2C-I is pretty great. 10mg was perfect for a night out, it just made every light sparkle and music sound wonderful. I need to try higher doses of it as well.
Wintermute · 2020-02-04 10:36
>>5195 Yeah, it's definitely great either in macro or micro. I've never had too much, and I've taken a whole hell of a lot.
Molly Millions · 2020-02-07 22:37
>>3193 that's some heave stuff, i lost complete coordination, pretty fun tho
Hitomi · 2020-02-21 04:25
i'd really love it if mxe would make a comeback
Junichi Fujiwara · 2020-02-27 10:17
>>3144 This keeps me quite wary of Kanna, as I hear conflicting reports of people feeling "incredible euphoria and ease" while others say they literally felt nothing. Almost makes me think that it is some placebo effect, gonna try it in a few days and will report back whether anything actually happens. From my understanding it is common that Kanna extracts that are sold are 'bad' or not genuine that will not bring about any positive effects.
Neuromancer · 2020-09-29 23:25
>>5346 Any news on how it went ? Im pretty curious about it.
Apoc · 2020-10-02 14:49
>>172 Phenibut, and basically just herbs in general. Cacao. Elethero. Schizandra berry. Rhodiola. Polygonum multiflorum. Mucuna pruriens. Yerba mate. Guayusa. Guarana seed. Ginkgo leaf. Gotu kola. Bacopa monierri. Wormwood (artemesia absinthium) Damiana (turnera diffusa) Vervain (verbena officinalis) Mugwort. St John's wort. Have, but haven't tried (much) yet: Calea zacatechichi. Silene capensis. Wild lettuce. Blue lotus.
Koichiro · 2020-10-08 13:13
Bought Kanna recently because I'm a shut-in loser with no access to weed. If it works, my life is complete.