Morpheus · 2017-04-28 08:47
i'm trying salvia tomorrow. the only drug I've ever tried before is weed, at my most frequent i smoked about once a week. i'm almost completely mentally prepared, I've been reading up on forums about it for about an hour now, but what dosage do i start at? my friend wants to buy 10x, but i'm reading that 5x is good for a beginner. tips?
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Ivan Petrov · 2017-04-28 08:54
First and most important: set and setting. Be in a secure place, quiet and with a friend you really trust. Be sure no one will interrupt (shutdown everything - phone, computer sounds, etc).
I'd suggest you also use a ear plug and a eye mask to diminish the cognitive load. Your friend should be on directly on your side all the time and with a phone to call ambulance if necessary. Even if that's not necessary at all (it's just salvia d.) all this brings a feel of safety to your subconsciousness (or heuristic, Fight-or-flight response , if you want).
For dosage, could check on Erowid:
https://erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml
Unsigned · 2017-04-29 00:55
>>129
You shouldn't try salvia before trying other dissociatives. Yes, dissociatives. Salvia is not a psychedelic, and it's the only dissociative that grows as a plant in the wild. Salvia acts inversely to your experience and tolerance to psy's and disso's, although you can still break through on it with no experience. You'd have to smoke an absolute soykafton for that to happen though, and you'll most likely have an unpleasant, overwhelming experience. My advice to you: get acquainted with psychedelics and disso's for a more cost-efficient, pleasant and intense experience. This will sound fairly pretentious, but the green sage will not welcome you as you are and might even punish you. It sounds like some hippie bullsoykaf, and I used to be sceptic of stuff like that, but it's the truth.
Arisu Mizuki · 2017-04-29 01:04
>>141
>it's the only dissociative that grows as a plant in the wild
There's others. Iboga, for example, could be considered dissociative (induced by NMDA antagonism).
>might even punish you
it's all about set and setting
>It sounds like some hippie bullsoykaf
yep, it is. This animistic way to see psychedelics and plants seems a lot of horsesoykaf for me.
Rick Deckard · 2017-04-29 01:12
>>143
>There's others. Iboga, for example, could be considered dissociative (induced by NMDA antagonism).
True, I forgot about that one.
>it's all about set and setting
I'd agree with you on that, but not with salvia. It's still an incredible factor, yes, but salvia has a will of its own. It's a very special substance, and I'd like to see more research done on it.
>This animistic way to see psychedelics and plants seems a lot of horsesoykaf for me.
I thought exactly like you through most of my salvia experience, but as I became more experienced with psychedelics and dissociatives and learned to control my trip more I found that it has a lot of properties that only become open to you once you reach a certain point in both tolerance and experience. I have experienced salvia both with high and low tolerance, high and low levels of experience and high and low dosages, and I can say that it depends on all of these variables in a very personal way. Animist interpretations of chemicals are usually bullsoykaf, but salvia has something going on that could create a vague animist image in someone even as sceptic as me. I'm not saying it is truly some kind of spirit, but the behavior it exhibits might show signs of autonomy or reactions that are heavily dependent on the way your body and mind have adapted themselves to other substances, and it does so in a way other than similar chemicals.