Makeshift Weapons

Makeshift or improvised weapons are /cyb/ as Hell.

Once I threatened a robber wannabe with exposed live wiring. Poor guy got so scared that jumped out of the window he had came in.

>>302 Somewhat irrelevant, but… A lame "burglar" robbed someone and was confronted by the owner. As the burglar was fleeing, the owner noticed the guy'd dropped his chapstick, so the owner yelled to him "I HAVE YOUR DNA!" The burglar returned and confessed, believing that he'd be turned in anyway due to his DNA on the chapstick.

>>302 That's actually kind of terrifying.

>>306 It did not help that I was giggling like the Joker. When I'm under sudden stress I can't help but let a nervous laughter out.

Fountain pens can be a nice, unsuspected weapon.

>>301 I'll take a crowbar over a knife, and bonus points for being totaly leagal to carry. Extra bonus points for being very effective in a tight spot!

>mfw its legal to open carry

>>311 Not really. They're not as sharp as you seem to think, will probably not penetrate a T-shirt and are easily bent.

>>314 Please don't, that just doesn't play well with any kind of futuristic culture and you just look like an ass doing it today. CC if you want though

>>327 >I should have to hide something because it might upset someone else's feelings Yeah, no. Besides it cost about $200 for a CHL and you have to be 21 in Texas (which I am not yet), so fuarrrk you.

>>328 This is you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APnTfnSyj1E You're just annoying as fuarrrk, no one cares that you have a gun, but keep it to yourself sperglord.

>>329 >implying I actually open carry my AK I didn't say I actually do, but I do support it. I might go ahead though just to spite you, most of the people I that I come into contact at my work are gun owners themselves and most support OC (including the police).

>>330 I could get behind doing it every few months or so with a group of people, but still, doing it alone no matter what context is just in poor taste.

What kind of third world armpit would I have to live in before I needed an AK47 just to walk down the street?

>>332 Select parts of just about any country in the world. Except, I would say that for some of the countries, there are those that are just as well armed as you, so they might shoot back.

Ghetto explosives are improvised right? I'm looking to make some acetone peroxide (the less dangerous trimer) for fun. It's a shock sensitive explosive that can be made using acetone and hydrogen peroxide in acid. I need to get some concentrated hydrogen peroxide though (acetone and sulfuric acid are pretty cheap and easy to get). Anyone have any links of methods for concentrating run of the mill antiseptic hydrogen peroxide solutions? You obviously can't just boil away the extra water since the heat will decompose the hydrogen peroxide in the process.

>>333 You've got to be kidding me. A pepper spray in your pocket will keep you safe literally anywhere in any of the Baltic states. And people call us Eastern European.

>>335 Will it freeze out?

>>332 Sometimes soykaf gets fuarrrked temporarily and there are literally machete-wielding gangs roaming the streets, or there are lions and soykaf trying to steal your meat. Just because you live in a place that's safe all the time doesn't mean everyone else does.

>>337 Pepper spray is illegal in many places, backfires in tight spaces or heavy wind, explodes if it gets too hot, becomes useless against people who eat hot food or wear goggles and it won't kill people/bears. I'd rather carry something in 10mm.

>>361 Its melting point is slightly lower than that of water, but it it might be difficult to try and do a phase separation because solutes tend to depress solvent freezing points. I don't think you can get around this by saying H2O2 is volatile either since it doesn't have a high H2O2 vapour pressure, but has high pressure of decomposition products. Even if all of this turned out not to be the case, its pretty difficult to control temperatures down to 0.1 degrees C at least when working outside of a lab.

in a /cyb/ world im sure arms trafficking or otherwise illicit arms production and sale (i.e. 4D PRINTERS 11!1!1!!!) would provide an ample supply of weaponry to the black market

>>417 Do you remember the Liberator? There's a guy in my town who has the file and sells them (illegally, obviously, but there are maybe three cops in this whole town and all they do is chase drunken college kids). That's pretty /cyb/ right there.

>>313 Slow to wield, I'd imagine.

>>417 Perhaps a /cyb/ world where even potential weapons (pens, kitchen knives, metal utensils, etc) are illegal and can only be acquired through the black market along with other makeshift weapons.

>>302 that got me to a really great idea. I still have some 9V batteries left from my diy-taser, so i think i can start building a new /diy/ weapon soon. wish me luck that i do not accidentally burn down my appartment.

>>313 /cyb/ as fuarrrk

>>335 >I'm looking to make some acetone peroxide This is a terrible idea. I've heard it has a bad rep even in soykafty terrorist circles. Good luck, if you are still alive and able to type.

>>435 It's much easier to wield than you'd imagine!

>>460 The voice of experience?

>>504 Yeah! I had a job once in which I had to break doors, boxes and all kinds of stuff once, and I was only given a light crowbar and a heavier one. Really fun and really easy.

>>302 >>307 10/10. I need to start doing this.

I had this idea of a city that was highly criminal, but with a really totalitarian and technologically advanced government restricting anykind of weapons. So instead people make guns and other weapons out of the resources they have access to, saltpeter from pig soykaf, crossbow arrows with circuit board tips, etc.

Posting fuarrrking small pictures is /cyb/ as hell I guess.

I made a small taser completely out of junk, with a scanner's CCFL inverter and a multiplier with 2 stages on either side. I used 222 caps taken from electronic junk. The output is 4-5kV at 2mA. The only thing I bought were BA159 diodes I had laying around, which are dirt cheap. It hurts quite a lot. >>328 I don't get the open carry thing other than the dissuasive element, by flashing your gun around you lose the surprise element, the people you want to defend against will immediately identify you as the potential threat, so it'll be easier for them to kill you by surprise. You also look like a douche, it's ok if you keep it hidden though.

>>337 Are you implying that Baltic states are particularly dangerous or something? There are many much, much more dangerous places out there.

>>506 I once had a volunteer job in which I used a crowbar, and the one I had was pretty heavy and somewhat clunky to use. I am not a particularly strong person, but with the size and the shape of it, I am having hard time imagining it being more handy than a lot of other things. Sage for accidental double-post

>>941 ... That does sound rather schway! >>945 What would you think of what the other anon also said he used; a light crowbar?

>>301 I once beat a guy within an inch of his life with my friends thinkpad t61, if that counts.

Chemical weapons?

>>968 Waste of a perfectly good thinkpad.

>>1002 Why do you imply that the TP broke?

>>1006 If it didn't there is no way you beat him near to death.

>>1007 Maybe if it was a virtual death, and the laptop was the machine used to access the virtual environment / game.

>>1007 You've clearly never owned a t61.

>>1014 touche, you had to rub it in ;_; (I WANT LIBREBOOT SO BAD) My preferred method of defense, also a handy tool. A large maglite.

>>941 Sounds like a lot of places now.

I remember I had saved this

>>1075 >>1078 those are interesting af

>>1079 It's amazing what properly motivated individuals can make.

>>968 >mfw I had a Toughbook 19 with the X-Strap >the x-strap had hooks on all four sides of the 19, so if you hit someone with it a few times you could very easily fracture his skull or kill him No wonder Toughbooks are /cyb/ as fuarrrk.

bump for moar

>>1083 Hell yeah!

>>1104 Dude, that knuckleduster is freaking sick! Also like the look of the DIY over/under shotty earlier. I have concerns about zip style guns, though. Namely back firing and safety precautions.

>>1107 There is risk involved with this sort of thing, but it can be minimized. Know your materials and the stresses they will be under. Choose ammunition carefully. Test fire remotely.

>>1128 Only that last one seems to be DIY. If those other two are then I want to meet their gunsmith.

>>1129 They both are DIY. The first one is from s.e.a. (can't remember were specifically). The second from the Khyber Pass were gunsmiths love to clone factory produced designs, often with some strange twists.

Is there a 101 for dummies on "how to make weapons". I still haven't read the anarchist cookbook but from my understanding the coockbook only shows you how to make bombs. I'm more interested in firearms.

>>335 >I'm looking to make some acetone peroxide (the less dangerous trimer) for fun. Not sure about acetone peroxide but try giving the explosives-making thread on OperatorChan a read. It has lots of detailed recipes on how to make homemade explosives like nitroglycerin and TNT. It's in the science/tech board. Acidman's "Explosives and What We Know About Them".

>>1144 the do/k/ument has a section on gunsmithing I think. Check http://murdercube.com/ Protip: the torrent will stop working at 96% because some of the files in it are bugged. Don't try to wait for it to get to 100%, it will never happen.

>>1144 Most of the firearms in this thread are re-fitted stock arms. It is to do. When making firearm from scratch the biggest issue is the barrel - you'll need a lathe cutter and hi-end drill bits to do a high quality barrel. Otherwise take a look at pdf related.

>>1146 >>1147 thanks a bunch

https://www.youtube.com/user/Tacome1942 Dude makes functioning weapons (even semi-automatc) out of PAPER!

Moar???

>>1184 i just love the sten gun design. any resources on barrel making?

http://www.quickleak.ir/nQ24iSAO for who have a 3d printer is a excellent pack of 3d models.It's a shame that in my country this technology has not arrived, it is still only being used by industries and universities.

>>1147 >>1219 Stay away from those practical scrap metal small arms PDFs unless you want to risk injury. The MAC 11 for example has a bolt about that weighs about half as much as it needs to for it to safely fire standard pressure 9mm ammunition. Luty's SMG design works though seeing as they've actually arrested people who were armed with working versions, pretty sure there's even a video of a police officer test firing one that they confiscated, but it might be a different gun that I'm remembering.

>>1265 You're not my mom! Don't tell me what basement ghetto blaster machine pistols I can and cannot fabricate.

>>1265 where did you learn that?

>>1273 I did manual count and it yielded around 180 grams. Looks like his CAD is pretty accurate. Bolt cylinder part should be twice as long. The gun can still be fired, but bolt will shoot back at your forehead.

>>943 Just finished a new taser. The cockroft-walton multiplier might not be the best way to get to the desired voltage, but it's simple and works just fine. I was thinking about writing an article for LZ3 about how I made it, I already have most of the writing part done, now I just have to add pictures and steps. I still have to tweak it a bit, also it's been a long time since I charged the 9V battery, despite that, I measured the current at the output and it is around 7.1 milliamps short circuit, this is more than 3 times the current of a standard police taser.

>>1359 An article in the LZ3 would be great. I will look forward to reading it.

Speaking of tasers, do you guys consider it would be safe to make a punching device with little spikes to carry the current? Some kind of power fist attached to a taser so that it only activates when you punch something. I figure you would need to leave as little space as possible between the spikes to avoid having a large electric arch giving you the stun. And everything else should be extremely resistant and should insulate your skin from the electronics. Would that be enough?

>>1362 You mean this. It doesn't seems too doable since the case would need to be extremely tough an the electronics packed in a tight space.

>>1363 Not exactly. Imagine that the actual taser was strapped to your arm and you had some cables extend the current to your knuckles. The electronics would be safe from the beating and you could make it so that it only activates when punching something. I'll draw something later and updload it, maybe it'll be clearer that way.

>>1364 Power fist lainon here. Image related is a crude design of what I meant. Let me explain it a bit: The left part is what would be the "fist". You can see it's attached to the knucles. Inside the box there are two spikes that will be the ones delivering the charge and a red button that will activate it. When you throw a punch at something, the non-conductive part on the left comes inside the bigger one, pushing the button and activating it. At the same time, the spikes are revealed and shock the punch receiver. Once you stop making contact, some springs separate the two parts of the box, releasing the button and therefore deactivating the taser. Also providing some protection for the spikes. Also to be noted, the gray part separating the box and the knucles is some padding to relieve some pain. It's easier to punch foam than something hard like plastic. The black box on the right is the actual taser with a battery inside, and it's connected so that the blue cable deals the blow and the green one activates it. Considering this design: do you think it'd be safe to wield this? What changes would you make?

>>1364 Nice, I didn't think about that, just machine a block of hard but non conductive material, add a microswitch going to the circuit and the high voltage cables coming from it going to the spikes. Make sure you use plenty of shrink tube and the appropriate voltage rated cables. I also thought about doing a taser jacket, which is even more dangerous for the wearer, with exposed wires running down the sleeves and switches at the ends. Normally when somebody wants to restrain you they grab you by your arms, with this jacket that won't happen. The problem is you would need to insulate the whole sleeve and you might also want to put the exposed wires on the exterior so you don't shock yourself if you bring your arms too close to your body. Also it won't work when it rains for obvious reasons.

>>506 breaking boxes and defending yourself from an attacker are two different things. very slight differences in handling can make a huge difference.