Lainzine 5

This is the thread for the development of the Lainzine project. This thread is solely for discussion of the development of the fifth Lainzine. It is preferred that submissions be in TeX or LaTeX format, with comments denoting messages towards the organizers, but this is not required and any well-documented format will probably be accepted. Any number of submissions is permitted and those wanting help with their submissions can ask for help from the organizers email or in this thread. The organizers may be contacted at lainzine@lainchan.org. It should be noted that plaintext submissions will largely adhere to a TeX format in most ways and this is another acceptable format for submission. With regards to ease of formatting, it is expected that submissions should be able to use TeX macros defined for and by the Lainzine in order to more easily communicate intent with regard to formatting: \lainurl{} % Format a URL consistently. \laintitle{} % Format a title consistently. \lainsegment{} % Format a code segment inline to its paragraph. \lainprogram{} % Format a program as its own section. Other requests for such macros are encouraged and this post will be updated as more are added.

I've seen plenty of people here discuss articles they want to write or have already written that they'll contribute. I've been wanting to recycle an article I wrote and put on my website for the Lainzine, which shouldn't require much cleaning and refining by now. It should be straightforward to collect enough of these articles and establish a reasonable building process for the Lainzine. While any good programmer should be able to write a script or something else that calls the reasonable programs to generate intermediate forms of articles and then compiles them into the whole, so other people could build the Lainzine, perhaps, I think this should wait until most of the articles are collected, so appropriate considerations can be made. As for what I'd like to see in the fifth Lainzine, I'd like a greater emphasis on programming. My aforementioned article relates to this and I intend to fill a page or two with a code listing. It would be great to collect interesting little programs people may not want to write a full article for and collect these into its own article of sorts, with some commentary for each program. So, my thinking is that the cover may be one of the more important issues for right now, as it seems like much of the other aspects are taken care of, but I could be misled, as I've not been involved with any of the covers.

Wait I remember reading that there was already enough content and you they just needed to be proof read and typeset. Why do you need more?

I was wondering if we were going to wait a year before the next issue came out.

Could we have a rundown of people working on it? Just interested if there have been some changes since the last issue.

Not sure if this belongs here, but I'd like to print the first few lainzines, what printing company was used last time? And do you still have the files used?

>>621 hi. so no idea who posted this thread, but yes, there is enough already submitted for a zine. all that's been missing for a long while now is the final layout being finished. intron was working on that, and it was progressing very rapidly and got to being around half completed. then he sort of disappeared and hasn't come back since, so things have been stalled. had emailed and things, though, and it sounded like he was just waiting to finish a work project thing and would be back. then there was an "i'm free again!" email. and now it's been a month since then, so am ready to just start over again with somebody else maybe? (if he doesn't want to finish it). also, junk has been gone since school started for him too, so. that all being the case, could somebody who has a reasonable amount of experience with scribus poke me (through the zine email or my email, or rizon / freenode work too). will figure out how to do this all on my own, if necessary, but it would be quicker with help. sent another message to intron just now and, if that goes nowhere, want to just make this thing happen. seriously, it has articles, it has art, it has front and back cover art, and it has decorative bits. all it needs is for the stuff to be put together in their right places it's really frustrating..

>>623 It's currently Appleman1234, myself, and other interested parties. There are several individuals not interested in submitting articles and whatnot to those previously managing the Lainzine, for various reasons. >>625 >hi. so no idea who posted this thread, but yes, there is enough already submitted for a zine. all that's been missing for a long while now is the final layout being finished. intron was working on that, and it was progressing very rapidly and got to being around half completed. then he sort of disappeared and hasn't come back since, so things have been stalled. This is the organizing for Lainzine 5, which won't be released under a proprietary license. Rather than continuing as with the previous issues, details such as version control, organization, and whatnot are up for discussion. The current method for submitting articles is by posting them in this thread or email. >had emailed and things, though, and it sounded like he was just waiting to finish a work project thing and would be back. then there was an "i'm free again!" email. and now it's been a month since then, so am ready to just start over again with somebody else maybe? (if he doesn't want to finish it). Feel free to contact lainzine@lainchan.org or elaborate in this thread the same as anyone else.

Could you add this little image to the zine Just and old anon asking another old anon a favor

>>626 so what you're (abstrusely) saying is that you're going to dump all the work that's already gone in, separate yourself from the people who have been working on it, and start over with your own new version? if you want to work with any of the material already put into the zine, please don't use any of my art things and make sure you ask all the people who've already put in work if that's ok with them..

Man everyone shut the fuarrrk up. The problem with all these free enterprises is y'all niggas kill the majority of your projects by bitching about details. Russian proverb: When there is a fire, you don't ask who the fireman is. I don't give a fuarrrk who is running Lainzine. I just want Lainzine. If the motherfucker who can get it finished is a corrupt, shady bastard, better him then some lazy fuarrrk who vocalizes our concerns but can't put in the work effort. Just get the fuarrrking zine finished. Enough of this bullsoykaf. FINISH THE fuarrrkING ZINE.

>>629 If you want the zine finished faster, help shmibs typeset it: >>625

>>630 I already did my contributions, so eat me.

>>630 Actually, know what? fuarrrk it. I'm not familiar with scribus, but I'll bet I can figure it out and get Lainzine out before shmibs gets the fuarrrk of its ass and gets some work done. Hit me.

>>632 am trying to figure out this scribus thing from nothing too, but managed to put together a cover page and poke out a couple other things in the past couple hours. looks like nullmuse (who has done lots of things for previous things) wants to help out too, so will probably go a bit more quickly now want this thing done as much as anybody else, really

>>626 Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear. Too bad I wasn't expecting Lainzine to continue, so I didn't prepare anything in advance. >>628 >make sure you ask all the people who've already put in work if that's ok with them Said by somebody who didn't check if publishing their work under different name was ok with them...

>>633 Yeah I'm tinkering with scribus now. Saw this thread and figured I should get in contact with shmibs, so we're working it. Hopefully between the two of us a lot of the work can get done in a month. >>634 >Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear. Too bad I wasn't expecting Lainzine to continue, so I didn't prepare anything in advance. That's what I'm afraid of -- I'd like to see Lainzine keep going strong and get a regular schedule. Not an easy task, but I think it's worth it.

On the topic of finishing the Lainzine and establishing a regular schedule, that's an important topic that I'd wanted to discuss. It seems reasonable to aim for the fifth Lainzine having a release in December and perhaps having a release biannually for future editions. What do you all think of this suggestion?

hey barrucadu (or are you lisp? or someone else?), nice to see you finally put in some work for the zine. May I ask why you've created your own email for this project? we've been taking submissions at lainzine@protonmail.com, too. I daresay there's more on there, than you've received. If we're ever going to finish this thing, you'll have to work with us. shmibs has access to all the content, layouts, and infrastructure we've been using. Click my name to send me an email. I'm busy with school now, but I hope to hear from you :)

>>637 >finally put some work in for the zine >while addressing people who wrote articles for it

>>638 barrucadu allowed us to republish something from his blog (which I am grateful for, of course), and that's who the post was meant to address. But it's a matter of whoever OP is. How can we know for sure? They're anonymous. I was mostly referring to how applechan people have been treating this like their project, in spite of the fact that it's been handled apart from them, and they got mad because we didn't include their branding - on a picture they didn't even create. You can still taste the salt in how they haven't even included the latest release cover in the OP. But that's not related to the circumstances, of course. Yall want a magazine, we have what you need. If you still don't trust me, know that I'm not a part of seph's project anymore (is there even a conflict, at this point?), nor am I affiliated with this place. Nonpartisan, like we've always said. If you have something else to say, you can do that in a more direct way that doesn't give OP a reason to delete the conversation. Just shoot me an email.

>>639 How does it feel getting btfo by seph after betraying the site here? Also lainzine when?

>>639 Junk here's the craic. People who wrote articles were unhappy with you retracting the magazine to change the cover. They posted in that thread about it and you said you "didn't care" what they had to say. In private you told me that you were sure that it was me samefagging (for the record I've had nothing to do with this. If it wasn't for some offhand comments made on irc a month back I'd have been as surprised as you) because nobody else would address you by name and that you were sure all of the authors were happy with what you did. You were wrong on both counts. You were arrogant as fuarrrk and you still are. You acted, and still act to be honest, like their opinions don't matter because you're the one who did the editing. Intron said he'd be happy with a cover just reading "lainchan." In fact everyone except you said it wasn't up to them. Salt indeed, you happily took those people's work and then spat in their face and it's not even the cover. It's the claim that their complaints about it don't matter. That somehow, this community project, is yours alone and they, despite contributing to it, get no say because it was "handled apart from them" apparently. They've decided they aren't giving you another chance. They're taking submissions of their own. There's nothing stopping you from doing the same but personally I'm submitting to them (I was half way through an article that I dropped because of your attitude) because I know that they'll actually appreciate it. Not to mention they might produce a release more than once in a blue moon. If it was just a bunch of random anons I'd be worried they weren't going to follow through, but it's not. Some long time mods have stepped up as well and they've seen a lot of soykaf through. >know that I'm not a part of seph's project anymore It was never about that Junk. You can't just ignore the people who did the work for you and tell them they don't matter and you don't care what they have to say and then expect them not to just say fuarrrk it. They were unhappy with the way things were being run. They decided they could do better themselves. I'm sure that's something you can understand. Isn't it supposed to be some sort of revolutionary imperative that's totally necessary? That's what you told me. The only difference here is that they just got on with doing it rather than being hostile about it, better men than me apparently. Oh, also that they're probably going to succeed. Anyway, back on track, >>619 Some way of marking code sections please.

>>640 and this is why kalyx left. both sites are ruined.

>>640 I felt betrayed. I don't mind betraying "the site" because websites don't have feelings. people have feelings, though, and I know I hurt quite a few. I always did. My apologies are still there. Seph apologized to me, too. She said anyone working on lainchan could join alicechan. I've considered it, but I had to say no. Kalyx hurt me when he sold the site and said he'd stay on board, but didn't. He was saying whatever it took to make the sale go through. Because he needed the money. How can I get mad? lainchan was dying before then, but that was the end. This is a graveyard to me. Lainzine comes out when shmibs and nullmuse and whoever else is involved with that complete it. The project was always organized around the IRC channel, and e-mail, and that's where I know them from. It's fitting. >>641 Jove, you were right about more than I gave you credit for. But you know I didn't say that. You just want to make a scene. I wrote a whole thing out detailing why you were wrong but I realized it doesn't need to be public. I DM'd it to you on freenode. Let's continue this conversation in private. It's between us, so I don't want to waste anyone else's time with it. >>642 Sadly, I agree. Whatever happens to these sites, though, we'll still be here. As long as I'm still here, I'll do what it takes for the magazine we created together. Because it will outlast this place. I've tried to talk to OP on IRC, but he doesn't want to. There's nothing more to it than an old feud between two moderators on a now-dead imageboard.

The opening post explicitly states that this thread is solely for discussion of the development of the fifth Lainzine. To Junk and everyone else, I suggest you take this to /q/ and let this thread continue normally. Any further replies in this thread related to this will be deleted as noticed. By the by, I've now updated the opening post to include some TeX macros for code segments inlined in paragraphs and as separated, similar to the TeX math modes. Do tell me if something else was wanted.

is lainzine 5 still in dev? Do they need articles still?

>>645 >is lainzine 5 still in dev? >Do they need articles still? Yes to both questions.

>>620 I think this would be really cool. I'd submit some sort of program if we decided to do that.

>>619 I'm a New user to Lainchan what is the Lainzine? are there any previous issues? how and what to contribute? thanks in advance

>>648 You can find all the previous issues by hitting the 'zine' button on top near the selection of boards, and it consists of great articles about various topics written by members of this community! Also, welcome to Lainchan!

>>649 thanks friend!

>>648 >>650 >>645 you can contribute by sending submissions to lainzine@protonmail.com . If you send your submission to any other email (including the one in the OP), we cannot guarantee that we receive it or that it'll make it into the zine. I'm the founder of the lainzine, and an editor. We've been actively working on the project all summer. OP is trying to impersonate me, and censor my posts. I (and shmibs) also run lainzine.neocities.org, which is linked to in the top bar.

>>651 >you can contribute by sending submissions to lainzine@protonmail.com . If you send your submission to any other email (including the one in the OP), we cannot guarantee that we receive it or that it'll make it into the zine. The official Lainchan lainzine email is lainzine@lainchan.org, Junk. Don't mislead. >I'm the founder of the lainzine, and an editor. We've been actively working on the project all summer. OP is trying to impersonate me, and censor my posts. I (and shmibs) also run lainzine.neocities.org, which is linked to in the top bar. The Lainzine is a flat hierarchy, Junk, so that doesn't matter; we're all contributors. I'm not trying to impersonate you and you aren't being censored if you can point out how your website is being linked to in the top bar. I'm only enforcing the rules fairly.

>>652 > you aren't being censored if you can point out how your website is being linked to in the top bar. It's weird how the post with a screenshot of that site's submissions page got deleted then, huh?

/r/ a article about nootropics and how improve the mind capacity with meds or anything else. I hope someone here understand and write about that.

>>643 We will always be here in a way. A sort of legacy to the old days.

are we setting a goal for one zine per year here

>>619 Would people be interested in a piece about the upcoming Hack Junction in Helsinki?

>>657 absolutely

Where are we on the zine right now?

>>659 https://github.com/Lainzine/lainzine-5

How do iw rite for lainzine? and I know this isnt too related but how does getting into journalism really work? man I'm too stupid for lainzine all lains are exponentially ahead of me in everyway

>>619 I wish I could learn TeX well enough to submit things. OH well..,

>>662 >It should be noted that plaintext submissions will largely adhere to a TeX format in most ways and this is another acceptable format for submission. Plaintext is fine too.

>>661 you would be surprised how many think the same as you... just find a topic, research and write!

>>664 I've been doing some digging into something and hopefully I'll be able to actually start producing something by the end of this month

>>654 Would anyone else be interested in an article on nootropics? Or is there anything specific people want to know? I'd totally do write an article on this if there's interest.

>>666 At this point, I'd think they would take an article about anything...

how long should a lainzine article be? 5 words?

Is this sold in physical format?

Please make a good cover for vol. 5. Not like the soykaf-tier vol 4.

I can't wait for the next zine keep the quality high as usual I don't mind getting it a year later if it's good

>>670 >not liking the best lainzine cover whaddafvck man

>>619 So how is issue 5 coming along then Lains? Am I too late to submit an article (info graphic)?

>>673 >So how is issue 5 coming along then Lains? I have my article written in my mind; I just need to submit it already. >Am I too late to submit an article (info graphic)? Of course not.

Just want to say a huge thanks to all lainons who contribute, reading through the first 4 has been an absolute blast and I cannot wait for the 5th

>Latest commit 5ac0cf2 on Nov 13, 2017 will be extremely sad if it's over for good.

Dear Lain, I promised an article about data compression back in October, maybe November. I am writing it right now, it should be submitted this weekend.

I'd be glad to write something up if someone has a need for knowledge in a particular area.

>>678 Also, where can I get lainchan stickers now? Link on donation page is broken.

I have sent a mail to lainzine@lainchan.org about a week ago, is there still someone who checks the mail or should I talk to lainzine@protonmail.com instead ?

>>680 The Protonmail one sent me a reply a week ago, try that.

>>681 Ok, thank you

considering it's been 7 months the new zine will be ready any day now.

Looking forward to the zine! Is it too late to contribute with an article?

>>651 I sent you a submission, Junk. Image related.

I've seen people talking about emphasis on programming in this thread, but none on a specific topic. I think it would be cool for someone to write an intro to some language. Maybe an intro to C? I'm not well versed enough in languages people would find interesting (HTML/CSS and a little C) to write one, but if we have any good programmers in here willing to write one that would be cool.

>>686 C introductions aren't particularly novel. If someone makes it Lain themed, a parody, does it through a comic, etc. it would probably be fine. Although I don't know how picky the editors can be at this point.

\Since the github for lainzine is down, does that mean it's dead?

>>688 I hope not, though it would be good to know if any enterprising lains out there forked it.

What we need is for someone to write two articles, make an announcement for other submissions, set a deadline, and publish what they have when the deadline hits, do or die. I have enough material for one article done, so if I write another, then I can setup a website, email, deadline, and do this on my own. Or, someone else could beat me to the punch and I'd submit to them. Perks of making your own is that you can make the name and format whatever you want. TL;DR Realistically, only someone who has written content has the means to publish something and anyone who has written content can publish something.

>>688 Nah, I think the github was .jp's lainzine. I know the guy who organised this is still around and I'm sure he'd have let us know if anything had gone wrong.

>>688 Holy soykaf, the Github 404 page has a fuarrrking bear onesie, I noticed it just now.

>>692 It's just the "catopus" wearing a shroud like a jedi, it isn't a bear onesie.

>>691 It's both? If you click the link to the zine on the top bar and go to the submissions page, it links to the github repository. I hope that it comes back soon, since I would like to write an article for it.

.jp tried to hijack it, then couldn't be bothered finishing. We should just cut our losses and start a new Lanzine 5.

Hey guise if y'all want to I can illustrate the cover.

>>696 do it!

>>696 That would be amazing.

>>698 >>697 Cool, propose ideas?

Once again I submitted my article about data compression, I hope I will get an answer this time

I'm a new user to this chan, so I am sorry if this is uploaded somewhere, but does anyone have the 'wires.ogg' that plays on loop on the zine site? I recorded it via audacity but noticed a quality drop. Enjoyed the zines a lot, looking forward to number 5.

>>701 Just download it straight from the site: https://lainzine.neocities.org/wires.ogg

>>702 I am probably pretty dumb. Oh well, thanks a lot.

>>699 lain with a neuromancer style deck

>>690 You guys open to practical hacking type articles? Demoscene stuff? I have some ideas for what we could put in the zine.

>>705 I would be glad to see it

>>706 Is there a TeX template where I can get the macros referenced in the OP? I want to set that up before I write my thing.

>>707 I guess it's on the GitHub

>>708 but isn't the repo 404?

>>709 Oh my ! You're right !

Is there still someone working on the project ? Some people have submitted contents but it seems no one fetches everything and work on the actual zine. Shall we form a new team to officially work on Lainzine ?

>>711 Things are still moving though slowly as always. Sorry about people not getting responses. The guy collecting articles just didn't really think about it. They've all been added to the submissions. >>696 That would be great! Preferably it would have lain on it but anything cyb is fine. It'll need to have lainzine 5 on it somewhere.

>>712 Do you have access to the TeX macros / whatever? I have a draft for an article that goes into how to use the process_vm_readv and process_vm_writev system calls to read and write memory of another process on the computer.

>>713 Yeah I can't really start my article without the macos. I'm obsessive like that.

>>713 Check the OP. Honestly. it doesn't really matter so much what the formatting is like. We have to read it over and reformat it to fit with the rest of the zine anyway. So long as you make it clear what you want that's fine. Also, something I should be sure of before I say we've recieved your submission. It was the lainzine@lainchan.org address you used? The protonmail one belongs to Junk, we don't have access to it and we haven't heard hide nor hair of him since he was kicked off the .jp staff. The github was also his.

>>715 >Check the OP I'm a little uneasy putting in macros which I don't even know what they do. Anyways, I was mostly worried about if the size of the code / lines was effected. Should I just not worry about the way I include source code. The last snippet of code for example is longer than 1 page which makes it kind of awkward to include. Should I delete all the error handling code from it to make it fit in one page?

>>715 So what mail address should we use ? I have sent mail to both and never got a reply.

>>716 The macros are mostly just there so we know what's going on. It all gets redone during typesetting anyway so don't worry about the details too much. If you like you can put notes to the editor in. So if you want to demarcate which code is non-essential and let us make the decision based on how it looks when it's done then that's fine. >>717 lainzine@lainchan.org

>>718 Ok, you should have received a mail

>>705 that would be neat

>>2179 Yay! I was looking forward to this! Thank you! I have a question from one of the articles - https://lainzine.neocities.org/all-releases/lainzine05/txt/ghosts-in-the-shell.txt > sed -i s/'rm -rf /var/run/1sh'/'init 0'/g /var/www/x/1sh > sed -i s/'rm -rf /tmp/2sh'/'init 0'/g /var/www/x/2sh > cat init 0 >>/var/www/x/3sh This will look for "rm -rf /var/run1sh" in file /var/ww/x/1sh and replace it with "init 0". This would not delete anything AFAIK which is what the author intended. From the gist of the article shouldn't the action be: > sed -i s/'init 0'/'rm -rf /var/run/1sh'/g /var/www/x/1sh ?? i.e. put "rm -rf" into the runlevel scripts and ensure they execute with an echo instead of cat. echo init 0 >>/var/www/x/3sh Or am I missing the point entirely, and it is just a short fiction story?

>>619 >cyberpunk is dead Wat? The world is more cyberpunk than ever. Fix your zine fools.

>>722 You seem new here. Do you need a YouTube tutorial or will lurking do?

>>723 I've been around the Chanverse for plenty time, friend.

>>724 Oh, you might have just missed the meme then.

>>725 it's litterally written on the front page of lainchan tho

Lainzine 5 is out!! https://lainzine.neocities.org/all-releases/lainzine05/ Well, partly. They will release new file each week

>Security Consulting and the Future What a lovely STORY. :')

>>727 Awesome! Any chance the plaintext files could be edited to have sensible linebreaks?

>>727 >Ghosts In The Shell (plaintext) >wget >wget >wget >wget >wget >wget >wget >wget >... Someone teach this guy how to use tarballs

>>727 How come it isn't being released all in one go like the other four?

>>729 On a *nix system you could try: sed ' 1i\ .in 0\ .ll 80\ .ad b\ .hy 0\ .ce\ .pl 1' foo.txt |nroff where foo.txt is the file you want to parse. .in 0 -zero indent ll 80 -line length 80 .ad -adjust both margins .hy 0 -don't hyphenate words .ce -centering IIRC .pl 1 -I can't remember why I was using this. If I don't comment my code/script enough I always forget, because I'm so deep in the zone at the time I write it.

>>731 >How come it isn't being released all in one go like the other four? Perhaps for the better, this liberal arts tier writing in the "go-outside" release already killed the fun for me. What is it with society when people always want to be fatalist with claims like "Cyberpunk is dead". Cyberpunk will never die for as long as at least a single person cares, and even though Netflix completely RUINED the writing of the original Altered Carbon by heavy book spoilers: making the central villain his sister and writing out important characters, the whole sci-fi and cyberpunk genre does well. If cyberpunk is hight-tech and low lives, Altered Carbon is cyberpunk too. Even though some core elements as raiding mega-corps you'd expect from a Shadorunner'esque / Neuromancer setting are missing. Honestly I care the most for the unreleased Lossless Data Compression && Growing Mushrooms. No idea where the Lainzine project is going, but I'd prefer a more upbeat writing. Cyberpunk and reality are dark enough, no need to give me the soykaf in literature too with fatalism.

>>728 >Security Consulting and the Future What a lovely STORY. :') Uhm can the Lainchan people clarify in the document that this is fiction? I went and read Lisbeth's story, and as a long time consultant I had a good laugh at the fanfiction on the page. Did Gabby from NCIS write this? Like, there's a number of reasons the story is likely entirely fabricated that I can rattle off the top of my head.

>>734 Not one of the writers, but perhaps you enjoy these more: Rapid7 Under The Hoodie - The Bank Job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7dj6K4qY7E Rapid7 Under The Hoodie - Remote Control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-yY8sGv4LY Rapid7 Under The Hoodie - One Man’s Junk Is Another Man's Treasure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHPSfHsgIEc Rapid7 Under The Hoodie - You Had Me Before “Hello” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYJPH1nct_U Rapid7 Under The Hoodie - Picked Off on the Kickoff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byY6KuRxLXU Rapid7 Under The Hoodie - Pwned You Twice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAJ4bVB3EI Rapid7 Under The Hoodie - Hack Thy Neighbor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVKuosLmkbU

Best real pen tester alive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsVtHqICeKE

>>735 Ow ow ow, my cringe meter is overflowing.

>>735 >Things that never happened, the YouTube channel.

so where is the new repo? or when will the next file be released? is it dead? are the organizer here?

>>739 It's dead. The organizers are dead. They're all dead. Everybody's dead, Dave.

>>740 actually I've found on telegram this: https://t.me/lainzine/17

>>741 Oh, not this crap again. Can mods please word filter all non-free messaging apps?

>>742 actually it's not my fault if the editors are using that channel instead of the lainzine 5 page

The writing of a 13 year-old's summer essay. Can we go any more edgier?

>>743 Good God, the levels of wage slave and soykaf. Very impressive!

>>744 Do you mean experimental-evening ? If not which one is it and how is it edgy

>>746 Security Consulting and the Future Lots of grammar mistakes, the editorial has to do some proofreading. The "facts" are barely believable. People adding random guy on facebook, medical professors adding random guy on facebook, as if they even frequent facebook for this lol, organ "cloning" whatever that is and whether it is worth to stop scientific progress (aint ya a fockin cybahpunk innit?) for a mere bounty of 5000 dead presidents, professors discussing organ cloning on facebook wall, a company that doesn't do background checks of all social accounts of their employees on their own, the whole story sounds like a bullcrap outta 13 year-old's mind who frequents facebook and is accustomed to adding strangers to increase his friend list. Second story is 13 year-old's view of drug trading and darknet markets. >le sekrit words for le sekrit message exchange Are straight outta early century detective fiction. No one uses that since we have encryption, and sending a lul so randum xD phrase would raise suspicion of someone who took your contact as a hostage and has his decryption keys, it will only lead to more rubber hosing.

>>747 Considering they said that they'd been inundated with submissions. Surely the could've chose something a little more believable (and well written)?

>>747 I agree that that's a low quality article. A lot of it smacks of fantasy and the predictions of the future might as well be the author smelling his own farts. Don't dismiss the Facebook stuff though. Creating fake social media accounts to investigate someone is very common. Facebook is the closest thing the Internet has to the street outside someone's house and I've never seen a Facebook user who was discerning and discreet.

>>721 No, the point was to remove the line where the script removes itself from the infected system, and put a system shutdown in its place. The end result would be any time the botnet infected a new system, it would install itself, and then, instead of cleaning up, shut that system down. The owners of that system, once they brought their system back up, would notice that the last login was not them, and the infecting script was still on disk, giving them evidence of the intrusion, as well as the IP that infected them.

Hmm it seems they published the first draft I sent and not the last version of my article. Just recompiled it so you can have it guys

>>751 At least this "revitalized" project has produced some content of merit. Thank you, anon.

>>750 I read the article as the hat was more black-grey rather than white-gray. If it was white-grey that makes sense.

Hey lainon, are the lain zines physical? or they are just on .pdf format?

>>754 You get the pdf and print it yourself, then you have a physical copy. That's what a zine is in 2018.

>>754 Ah yeah, just what we need to do. Cut down more trees, and create more polluting ink.

Anyone know where I can get Lainchan stickers still?

>>757 At your local printing shop, after giving them the design.

>>756 well printing it is optional...

>>757 If you're still looking for Lainzine stickers, they can be bought here: https://society6.com/punishedlainzine/s?q=popular+stickers https://www.redbubble.com/people/lain-zine/shop/recent+stickers Found the links in screenshot from >>745

Damn, I meant to reference >>743, not >>745

>>762 the fuack is this schizophrenic hyperlinked abomination, I absolutely love it!

Who’s interested in getting a printed version of lainzine ? I don’t know the exact process but willing to put 50$ in it if I need to.

>>764 The magazines could probably get printed up at someplace like Lulu or the like. A vanity press printer. I don't know how the magazines would get delivered, though. One of the main points of a chan is anonymity. That gets broken pretty fast with mail-order. I suppose what could happen is someone sets up an account a Lulu.com, or wherever, and people bitcoin the initial funds for a first run print. Then the printed zines get sent to indie bookstores that carry zines and indie publications and people head over to buy a copy or pick one up if it's free. It'd be interesting to see if the zine could grow to the point of being split into multiple titles. One for programming and tech, another fiction or media, etc.

>>765 to be honest I'd prefer it if lainzine only had the "black hat" tech articles that you don't easily find online. The fiction usually tries to be mindfucky and just aren't that entertaining imo.

>>766 This. I want the zine to remain sec/tech confused, with cyberpunk influences.

speaking of the zine, when are we gonna get the next one published? How many articles are being worked on?

here are the lainzines for if you want to print them make you you flip on short edge when you hit print, and you can fold and staple the zine right after it comes off the press

here's #4

>>770 >>769 For issue 4 I had to add two pages from issue 5 (as there were 66 pages, and 68 is the next multiple of 4) heres the script i used to make it all python #!/bin/env python3 import sys def main(pages): assert pages % 4 == 0 half = pages // 2 r1 = iter(range(half, 0, -2)) r2 = iter(range(half + 1, pages, 2)) r3 = iter(range(half + 2, pages + 1, 2)) r4 = iter(range(half - 1, 0, -2)) page_list = [] for i in range(pages // 4): page_list.append(next(r1)) page_list.append(next(r2)) page_list.append(next(r3)) page_list.append(next(r4)) return page_list def test(): assert main(4) == [2, 3, 4, 1] assert main(16) == [8, 9, 10, 7, 6, 11, 12, 5, 4, 13, 14, 3, 2, 15, 16, 1] assert main(36) == [ 18, 19, 20, 17, 16, 21, 22, 15, 14, 23, 24, 13, 12, 25, 26, 11, 10, 27, 28, 9, 8, 29, 30, 7, 6, 31, 32, 5, 4, 33, 34, 3, 2, 35, 36, 1 ] if __name__ == '__main__': if len(sys.argv) < 2: print(f"Usage: {sys.argv[0]} <num_pages>") exit(1) pages = int(sys.argv[1]) test() pl = main(pages) print(str(pl)[1:-1]) # The indexing removes the brackets from the list #for i in range(0, len(pl), 4): # print(f"{pl[i]} {pl[i+1]} {pl[i+2]} {pl[i+3]}") When you enter the # of pages into this script it spits out what order to print the pages in so that the centre is printed first and the outside cover is printed last This way you only need to fold the printed stack. Make sure to put two pages side-by-side, left-to-right and flip on the short side

>>768 Bumping this question. Anyone collecting submissions for #6? Will the next one be released like a normal zine or will it be like #5 again? Are the two missing articles from #5 coming?

>>772 to be honest, It's not done by Junk anymore, I don't think it's being worked on anymore.

>>772 >>773 >>768 With regards to the zine mentioned in OP. It is still being worked on. Only one article has been submitted and it isn't at a publishable level of quality and feedback for its improvement is still being provided.

>>774 >Only one article has been submitted and it isn't at a publishable level of quality Why didn't you say so earlier, I'll work on a article now.

>>774 Hey mod, When the lainzine editiors are working on a zine, you should a post or news update for a call for articles.

>>774 So wait, is #6 being worked on already? Is somebody going to compile the #5 to a all-in-one pdf or is it just being left the way it is now?

I just noticed the text I wrote in 2016 managed to get into LZ5 (kinda). It isn't available for some reason in the LZ5 ToC, but the text is still there @ https://lainzine.neocities.org/all-releases/lainzine05/txt/Hacking-Java-webapps-for-dummkopfs.txt It's nothing special, but when I needed to pentest java in two years ago, there wasn't any good information about the inner workings of servlets, which is why I compiled this

How do I write something good enough for lainzine?

Would an article about a piece of software I wrote and my philosophy behind why I wrote it be good enough for lainzine or is that kinda old news now?

>>779 Practice, effort.

https://www.alternacomics.com/ppp These guys are offering to let creators "piggyback" small runs on their own printing runs.

>>777 Very good question, is #6 already worked on? If so, why didn't anyone officially said anything? Coz I have an article to write now

Any of you guys still have CyberNihilist Manifesto which was hosted here? https://my.mixtape.moe/dnvasq.pdf

so where's that growing mushrooms article?

>>784 Bumping that request

>>784 >>786 here you go

>>784 >>786 all of n1x's writings on cyber-nihilism are still available on nihil.nyxus.xyz btw

Semi related, but just saw that the lainzine is being promoted on the neocities frontpage. Kinda cool.

>>787 I can't tell if this is decent fiction or someone hating his life because of politics so much that he wants to live in the matrix.

>>787 finally, thank you lain>>787

>>619 Are submissions in {t,g}roff acceptable?

>scroll past thread >notice the third image is absolutely gorgeous >open it up >it has a lain edited into it Why does autism have to ruin everything :(

>>783 hey, lainzine 6 is accepting submissions at lainzine@protonmail.com we are planning to finish a final pdf of all the releases aswell as release newly-formatted versions of them, which is why we have been stalling. last thing we put out was article titles on lainzine 5 release page.

>>794 >of all the releases fuarrrk, I meant of all the articles

>>619 So, when is the rest of the latest zine being released? It's been months now.

Hey, weren't these on I2P? I was seeding the torrent for these on I2P, but I lost that box. I built a new one. I'd like too seed them again.

>>796 we just dropped the penultimate article. https://lainzine.neocities.org/all-releases/lainzine05/java.pdf Auntie is currently working on lainzine 6, Reagan is on lainzine 5. We've gotten no new submissions for LZ6 since the announcement, so the ones we have are what we're going with. >>797 want me to make a new torrent? the old one wouldn't have all the issues anyway. Or if you make one, I could post a magnet link on lainzine.org

>>798 Does that mean it is too late to submit for LZ6?

>>799 Is it?

>>800 >>800 >>799 no, you can still submit! we haven't heard back from one of the people we're interviewing yet so we're waiting on that to be honest

>>801 Nice! Thank you!

Hello, I would like to know if articles are limited to English language or it Will be possible to post in other one.

>>803 I'm not part of the staff, but if you write in another language, you prevent the majority of readers from understanding your contribution...

>>803 Depending on the language, some of us may be wiling to translate it. It ought to be easier than coming up with an entirely new article anyway.

So whats up with LZ5 ? Are we just waiting on the "Growing Mushrooms" article to finish before publishing? Also are physical copies of LZ a thing or should I just print my own?

Also, back in the days I complained that my article about data compression that was published was in fact my first draft and not the complete version. I posted it here afterwards. Will it be fixed for the final release of the LZ5? PS: my article for LZ6 is almost finished, my friendly reviewers are reading it a last time.

>>807 hello, thank u for bringing it up, I'm going to talk to Reagan ASAP about that! >>806 Yeah, I'm trying to upload lainzine 4 to the site we're using for physical releases now. it won't accept it until we get the bleed right (it needs to be 0.125 inches and the pages need to be A4), and we're gonna look more into that tomorrow. Print your own if you want but ours will be actual magazines. To finish LZ5, we need to retypeset some articles + combine all of them into a mega PDF >>803 >>805 I studied Spanish for a few years and can try to translate it, but I wouldn't be confident doing so unless someone more fluent helped me. I'll ask around.

>>779 We made a keybase chat room for article workshopping, I'd be happy to help you come up with something >>792 sure, but keep in mind we're gonna (re)format it to match our stylesheets >>782

lainzine 5 hasn't been published in 2 years...

seconding this, I would love another lainzine. I can even contribute an article this time.

>>811 Does anyone know if junk browses lain, or is he/she only browse arisu?

>>812 I sporadically check this thread, hi >>811 we are copy-editing lainzine 6 right now. check on keybase maybe

>>813 dont tell kalyx, but I've been in this thread more regularly than any thread on arisu.

>>813 plan on updating your mailing list, or does the archive only have one email?

>>815 thanks for reminding me. I've been meaning to update for like, the past month

>>815 >>816 updated.

>>817 Nice, work thanks for keeping everyone in the loop, If i may recommend, please make the emails rather weekly or monthly just to keep everyone up to date.

>>818 good idea, I'll add that to my schedule. if I miss a week just bug me about it

>>819 will do, I just wanna be kept up to date is all.

>>820 I'll help too

>>627 Grate idea I can't help. But I will spreed the word.

What do we write about here? I'm interested in sending in some articles. Also, where can I get physical copies?

>>823 go to the zine website https://lainzine.org/about.html

>>823 https://replicantmag.bigcartel.com/product/lainzine-volume-5-rzf-edition I'm going to make an official announcement once I get the first rounds of orders shipped

> Zine 4 > I am trash man Sorry i cant help myself

>>826 It made me laugh not gonna lie.

>>803 Do you have trouble with English? I can translate your article if you want.

is Hisui Kohaku here? i really liked go-outside.txt, it did a great job of expressing what a lot of earlier internet users feel now.

just updated the mailing list... was busy this past month because of studying for CompTIA Security+ certification (passed btw ^^). the team is all locked in so we've reached that point of the "waiting for a PDF" process, I think >>829 we're in touch, sending this along :3

>>830 Nice!

are submissions for artwork still being accepted for either 5 or 6?

>>832 lz6 is in the final phase, I wouldn't think so...

Just realized that Lain has a zine. Piqued my interest. Keep up the good work, it's pretty cool.

>>833 If lz6 is almost done, why is lz5 still incomplete on the site?

>>835 there's different teams involved with each release, so we don't get held up on one release and so we can release stuff faster. It seems like the "make a huge PDF of everyone's article" method is a great way to slow release schedule to a standstill and get everyone burned out.

Any updates to LZ5? I've been waiting for months to read the article on growing mushrooms from Lains perspective. Also what's the status of LZ6?

>>837 I'll try to get as much as we can out by the 20th.

just wanted to say good work

>>839 i'm new here, did the zine actually got printed or did you do it yourself? is there any way to buy them?

>>840 It wasn't printed, no. They most likely did that alone.

>>813 is it too late to submit anything for #6 ?

>>842 more than likely, the staff are trying to put the finishing touches on #6

>>843 well then I hope #7 will open soon cuz I have like 2 articles in the works

update: my grandpa died on Thursday and some of my time has been occupied with that + getting ready for a potential new job scribus is an awful application and working around its issues has taken longer than expected. we have a few more finishing touches to add, I could post what we have but its definitely not in a ready state yet and I wouldn't feel good about putting it on our site. Expect completion sometime this week or next. I'll make a release thread for it when its done, didn't make one for lz6 because I was worried that it wouldn't get pinned. here is a list of articles we will be printing: You're Hashing It Wrong I Am Your Virtual Host Extracting Visual Novel Resources How To Collect Garbage Mass Surveillance in Russia Lean and Mean: Devuan Linux Setup DESTINY 吉凶 PHYSICAL SECURITY, or how to save your ass (and soothe your paranoia) after screwing up on the wired potential VPN attacks We will also be publishing two interviews: Zoe Nawar (twitter user @yungkitty404 and former McAfee campaign consultant) Machine Girl (machinegirl.bandcamp.com) >>840 physical copies soon tm >>844 we're going to move to a continuous release for subsequent publications to move away from all the bottlenecks of releasing biggo PDFs. send them in whenever they're ready and we'll stagger them out (like we did with LZ5). txt always preferred but we also like HTML or something easily convertible thereto because we'll be hosting them as individual articles. we can do PDFs, markdown, LaTeX too.

>>845 Sounds fuarrking good! Also, sorry for your grandpa

>>845 >Machine Girl (machinegirl.bandcamp.com) fuarrrk this is awesome. love the dude. is he somehow connected to lainchan?

>>845 Are you still going to link to lainchan.jp?

>>845 any update on this?

>>849 Also interested. I wanna hear that machine girl interview sometime too :)

>>849 >>850 soon™

>>851 Answer my question >>848 Junk.

So what's going on with Lainzine? Who's behind it? Is it Junk? Is it >>626 ? Is it a collaborative effort? It's been YEARS since the last zine came out. From the looks of it from the announcement page https://lainzine.org/announcements.html it seems that Junk is more interested in making more $$$$ instead of working on the zine. Who should I email if I want to send an article? Who's making the shots what should be in the zine and what shouldn't? Who has access to https://lainzine.org/? Do the current editors need help/more writers/art? From what I've gathered is that Junk and others fuarrrked everything up when they tried to leave for .jp which backfired and stalled the zine completely. Would lainchan be interested in dumping the lainzine and creating a new one from scratch? What say does Junk have in regards to the zine? What say does >>626 have? Is there an official channel on lainchan's server for the zine? More transparency please.

>>853 >So what's going on with Lainzine? Who's behind it? Is it Junk? Is it >>626 ? by the looks of it Junk, Eiritana and Auntie are together leading the zine. though it's a collaborative effort on everyone s part. >Is it a collaborative effort? yeah people can help >It's been YEARS since the last zine came out. thats a bit of an exaggeration, its been little over a year since lainzane 5 >From the looks of it from the announcement page https://lainzine.org/announcements.html it seems that Junk is more interested in making more $$$$ instead of working on the zine. time is money, and you dont have to donate. besides, lainzane 6 is almost done, seems you didn't read >>845 >Who should I email if I want to send an article? https://lainzine.org/submissions.html >Who's making the shots what should be in the zine and what shouldn't? probably one of those people i mentioned above. >Who has access to https://lainzine.org/? junk >Do the current editors need help/more writers/art? if you want to help check out the keybase: https://keybase.io/team/lainzine >From what I've gathered is that Junk and others fuarrrked everything up when they tried to leave for .jp which backfired and stalled the zine completely. i have no idea about this >Would lainchan be interested in dumping the lainzine and creating a new one from scratch? no? why? >What say does Junk have in regards to the zine? just as much of a say as other people >Is there an official channel on lainchan's server for the zine? More transparency please. there's the keybase: https://keybase.io/team/lainzine seriously, the answer too all of these questions is either found in the last 20 posts of this thread or on lainzane.org, do i really have to spoonfeed it?

>>854 Thank you! Maybe I can add some more details: >>847 He saw the zine and thinks its cool. I made friends with a record label up in Vancouver, the owner liked the zine and offered to support us. I saw that the label (burning kitty records) had scheduled a show with Machine Girl, so I asked Burning Kitty if we could get him for an interview. He agreed! And I have the whole interview now, it's one of the articles we still need to put some kind of art to. >>852 I'm not really sure where you've been because lainchan.jp died 3 months after it started 2 years ago. It was renamed, and we all got kicked off the project, and then it proceeded to stagnate. Seph actually tried to bring Kalyx & co back on at one point to arisuchan but it got spammed to death. Pretty sure there's posts in this very thread about the first part. >>853 >Is it Junk? I'm the editor trying to release lainzine 6, as part of a team on keybase. >Is it >>626 ? shortly after this happened, "lit mod" got chewed out by Appleman because it was explicitly agreed upon between him and Kalyx that the lainzine be a separate project from lainchan. I appreciated the gesture. > it seems that Junk is more interested in making more $$$$ instead of working on the zine I made physical copies because some friends who liked the zine suggested I table it at a convention, and also because people have been asking for physical copies for ever. The copies were made half a year ago, before we had even closed the submission deadline for LZ6, and the shop was put up not long after. I realized it hadn't been mentioned in an announcement, so I made sure to include them as something to show for yall. Something like $200 was made, total, from the zines and all the money for online purchases goes to Reagan, the typesetter of lainzine 5 anyway. I'm more interested how we've done all this consistently for 6 years on no budget than any income from sales. >Who should I email if I want to send an article? if you want your article published on lainzine.org, email it to lainzine@protonmail.com >Who's making the shots what should be in the zine and what shouldn't? Anyone involved has the choice to not work on a particular article, if they don't want to. There haven't been any problems so far, but we don't publish bad articles. >Who has access to https://lainzine.org/? Me, Reagan, Auntie, and a new guy we brought on as a site designer. >Do the current editors need help/more writers/art? We don't need any more editing, writing, or art for this release, however we are accepting art - especially if you want to do an article-specific illustration. Right now, we need typesetters who have the freetime and patience with Scribus / importing the in-production copy to their publishing software to finish the PDF, basically. Feel free to talk to us on keybase to help out, if you actually want to release a lainzine. >From what I've gathered is that Junk and others fuarrrked everything up when they tried to leave for .jp which backfired and stalled the zine completely. You're mistaken if you think anyone besides me and one writer were involved with both the lainzine and seph. Actually, at the time of that happening, we had just released lainzine 4, and all that happened during the submission period for LZ5. The zine was stalled by the same workflow issues we always have: that typesetting a 60-page PDF of all the articles is too much for one person to manage, but also difficult to coordinate a team over. People keep getting burned out. Which is why we released lainzine 5 as several different articles and plan to do that for future releases as well. To answer your other questions: lainchan staff is not involved unless individuals from the staff want to get involved. "lit mod" was mistaken about the involvement of Appleman and lainchan staff's authority over the lainzine, although Appleman did help us with lainzine 5. This is all old stuff from >2 years ago so I am really not sure why you're bringing it up now, especially since a lot of it is in this very thread. If I made you mad somehow, I'm sorry, and I hope you're feeling better now. I also want to add that we've been contacted over the past year by independent teams interested in translating the zine into Russian, as well as (possibly?) compiling all the lainzine 5 articles into a PDF. I'm not sure what they are currently doing, or if they want you to contact them.

>>619 So whats with the zine these days....? Is 6 happening at all? Do we have a pile of random format articles waiting that need setting into a nice PDF and releasing?

>>856 >I can't read the post.

>>856 get on keybase, we're almost finished.

>>858 I am surprised that you guys are using keybase still. You may want to switch away, it was bought by some chinese company. I am looking forward to the zine release, regardless!

is this still a thing ? https://replicantmag.bigcartel.com/product/lainzine-volume-5-rzf-edition

>>619 If all in hand I will not worry! >>860 Good price for printed copy's (that is what were looking at here?)

>>859 yes it was bought by Zoom and we are going to set up a matrix server and use that ASAP. keybase hasnt rolled out any updates yet but we're not gonna wait around for when it does. >>860 Yes. There's 2 orders still need to be processed last i checked. can include bonus stickers or something else if you want, too. >>861 yup! they're zines, and they come with stickers

>>862 >we are going to set up a matrix server and use that ASAP definitely post it here when you do. i might have an idea for a contribution i'd like to run by you, if not for 6 than for the next one.

>>863 we're about to release 6. I'll make a new thread when we do, and include a link to the matrix.

>>864 so you're really going to release the 6th before the 5th?

Juuuuunk LZ6 is two months overdue!!!!

>>865 5 was released over a year ago...

>>867 it's not finished

What are some skills that would help the creation of the project? Typography/LaTeX? Or are there other things that the team is struggling with?

>>869 Scribus

Is there an ETA on Lainzine 5 being a full, downloadable PDF? I'd like to read that mushroom article. Thanks.

>>871 the person who was supposed to be doing it just told me that they basically gave up and would have to re-do the whole thing from scratch again. So now one of us pretty much has to do that as well, in addition to lainzine 6. If somebody else wants to help with that, please let me know but the same skills would apply as making lainzine 6. You just don't have to use Scribus for it. Also, the mushroom article has been up for over a year at https://lainzine.org/all-releases/lainzine05/txt/Mushtut.txt , i just had it be kind of a secret for discerning readers to discover for themselves.

>>872 I'd like to help, but I've never done what you are asking for. Do you have any kind of quick run down on the process? Scribus is a program you would normally use for this I assume?

>>873 For this release, we are using Scribus, but we are open to other software (ideally not scribus x-x) in the future. I'm going to set up a matrix server for us during the remainder of this week, because keybase got bought by zoom, and then I'll put the link here and you can join if still interested. There isn't really a document we've been referring to except for the getting started guides on Scribus' wiki, and the task-specific pages on said wiki or wherever else on the internet.

>>874 A Matrixserver would be more than welcome, Keybase didnt even work properly on my Device ._.

>keybase >chinese >Owner -Zoom Video Communications Omg, lol.

>>876 yeah its, bad. I've got the matrix set up, but I need to get account creation working now. there's some weird glitch probably because its using nginx to forward stuff

>>877 if it's anything like the keybase, it will basically be idle-rpg

>>874 >ideally not scribus scribus is actually an ok app - its got a few funny bits but all in all its bloody good (CMYK being the main thing that stops commercial use)... if you know indesign well you will find your way around scribus, with a little bad language. Thing is indesign is not an easy app to use correctly... its very easy to get hands on in there, but DTP is more like CSS - its about creating the styles and framework etc to then place all the elements together... Biggest issue you will have fun with is setting maths! - you gonna have to do that by hand (indesign too)... Good luck!

>>877 Why not just use the IRC Junk? Get Appleman to set a secret (or public) room for the Lainzane. Is it because you want persistant chat history?

>>880 This. It's really sus you guys aren't staying in-network.

Release the zine 5!

I love your zines, lain. Cant wait for the next edition.

>>883 You're going to be waiting a loooooooooong time.

Are there any news btw? It's been several months without any responses to this thread. Is the Lainzine 5 more or less finished? Has the Lainzine 6 been even started? Should we realease our contributions ourself here, just in case?

>>885 You're going to be waiting a long long long time

>>886 I know, I've been waiting for years, I can wait for a few more years. Just asking for news

>>880 persistent chat history is good. We also need multiple rooms for different projects (physical copies, site design, lainzine 6), so using a single IRC room doesn't make sense. >>885 yes its pretty much finished. doing a PDF containing every article involves getting a new typesetter for it or asking the former typesetter to start over from scratch, since they want to show significant improvement in the article designs. lainzine 6 is actually almost finished, as it has been for months. i think we're going to stagger articles releases instead because scribus tends to crash on projects longer than 40(?) pages. and the person has been afk for a while now...

>>888 >>878 >>877 Also! there is an XMPP chat room now. bad@comference.lainzine.org

>>888 i sent an article 6 months ago and still didnt get any answer, is that normal?

>>890 that's not normal. I'm sorry we didn't reply - we must not have seen it. did you send it to lainzine@protonmail.com?

>>891 yes, i see you've replied so it's all good you didn't answer my question in the original mail so i'll repost it here : >Just a quick question regarding zine content, would you accept ironic one-page advertisings? Maybe it has already been done, but my memory's not so great. I was thinking about creating fake ads from cyberpunk companies.

>>892 I'd be personally happy to see one. It is art after all.

>>892 for sure! we've been talking about fake ads for a while but we wound up with a real ad instead and also a fake propaganda poster about the robot uprising. also, lainzine 5 was/is gonna have some that reagan made. feel free to send any you make in, if they look good we will definitely run them

>>894 I'll try my luck with some Neotokyo° brands I think

it would be much more interesting if you did some ad buster stuff with a cyberpunk twist. outright fake ads seems just like art (which is fine, but it doesnt really do anything really interesting or fun or subversive).

Bump

>>897 Bump as well, I'd like to contribute.

>>896 please explain? I'm not sure what ad buster is, like edited ads?

>>898 In the same boat. >>894 What is the current status of lainzine?

>>899 adbusters.org or adbusters.com not sure which but check them out they've been around for decades

Why did this die? There haven't been any updates in years.

>>901 Did you just discover adbusters, Lainon? They're so old. Most of their faux ads are from the first-term Bush Jr. era.

>>900 we've been stalled forever on lainzine 6 since no typesetters. however we have begun uploading articles as HTML pages to the site, and are working on a nice theme with static site generators. this isn't to replace PDF releases because people like them, but a stopover to show that we're still alive and also so the content is more accessible. unrelatedly, here is an article i typeset and illustrated with GIMP a month and a half ago. we tweeted it out on 4/20 our birthday. also, we are making a radio station. we already have icecast set up and in a couple weeks we should be doing DJ sets. >>902 it died because typesetting is annoying, especially with what we're trying to do. we have lots of people who are eager to try but it is tiring to make a 50 page pdf with aesthetics oriented towards every article. we are probably going to wait until the future to be extra and just make a template or something because this has been taking too long. apply to help with any of this if you feel like you can at lainzine@protonmail.com . new articles always accepted and if accepted they will be published online or in lainzine 7.

>>902 also we have been giving updates. please pay attention to lainzine.org and our twitter twitter.com/@lainzine for updates rather than here

>>904 >we've been stalled forever on lainzine 6 since no typesetters Typeset it yourself then, lazy cunt. There are no excuses for the zine being stalled for 2 years.

>>906 OR alternatively just release the full development version here and let someone else take over who is capable of finishing it.

>>906 >>907 Can't we just have a uniform LaTeX theme and focus on artwork in the cover / back? If you have a bottleneck in typesetting when compared to text output, you need to simplify it to reduce time to market.

>>909 This. Uniform LaTex, or just don't worry about it.

>>619 sick 1234's elon musk you absolute belend

>>909 I'm also advocating for the uniform LaTeX theme. Quality of content and reasonable release times > design (to a certain degree)

>>912 is anyone still reading this thread?

>>913 Yes! I am sometimes

>>913 Still looking for updates, so yes.

>>913 I come back now and then. Just now I notice lainzine.org is featured on the front page of neocities.org, which is cool.

>>913 yeah, hi I already plan to do a uniform latex template in the future. while these are good design decisions, and I am thankful for your polite suggestion, the issue is what the real skills available to us are - our typesetter volunteers didn't work with LaTeX before. here's what I have in mind: latex templates will be used for non-visual elements, with gaps for images. I just want to address some concerns that were raised by others: >Difficulty contributing for new authors/artists I'm unsure why this would be true: while we do have some authors who make multiple contributions, most of our contributors in every issue are new. Submission is as simple as emailing lainzine@protonmail.com . If you're talking about the fact that we keep a backlog, this doesn't prevent people from being published. >Lack of communication is this is about not responding to posts like >>907 and >>906 ? I ignore personal insults and bad-faith comments because flame wars are unproductive. otherwise, I plan to resolve this issue by giving regular updates. >No clear creation paradigm this seems to be tied to the someone not being aware of our content backlog or submission guidelines. These guidelines are available at lainzine.org/submissions.html , and have been available for so long that they're due for an update. in general, we make releases based on the availability of content and skills, rather than quotas which may or may not be filled by promised deadlines. I'm thinking about some kind of hybrid system with scheduled - maybe biweekly? - updates on our progress and release expectations. you can contact me via junk@lainzine.org on xmpp, junk_lzn on twitter, @junkf on telegram, junk0@riseup.net etc