Programming buddies

Where can I find programming buddies? I saw this trend on Reddit where programmers would look for others that are learning about the same technology in order to share knowledge and stay motivated. Only problem was that most of them were only interested in communication through Discord or similar proprietary platforms. Texting is fine but I also like to have a VC from time to time. I tried our Mumble server but most of the time there are no more than 1 or2 members and all of them are AFK. If anybody is interested in learning C, Haskell or Go with me I will leave my contact details below. Mumble: mikoto-chan on lainchan.org Matrix: avdb:midov.pl IRC: mikoto-chan on Freenode XMPP: avdb:yax.im

I'm currently building my own language because I couldn't find a fitting one. I like C, minimal C++ and Common LISP, but have tried many more languages along the way. XMPP: @trashlucy@trashserver.net fediverse: @methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz

>>24517 Hey, I am proficient in Go and know a little C and Haskell. I've read most of GOPL and working on two Go projects. I read LYAH and K&R too, but I am yet to write any /real/ software in C or Haskell. I might join the mumble server later.

Nobody ever wants to team up, at least not for real... The best I could find was some guy doing his thing and, allowing me to do a bit of code review.

>>24522 Leave your details behind. I didn't find you in the Mumble server. There are only some guys called inc and loli that are 24/7 online but AFK.

Not the other lain but some contact info: @juxtapositional:mipov.pl @juxtapositional:halogen.city I know C a fair bit but never done any serious project or have a github or a lot of things...

I'm down for mumble, I predominantly want to learn C. I haven't been on the lc server but I'll check to see if I find you

If you make something useful enough that a significant number of people actually use it, eventually people will send you patches. Some of them may become friends.

Can we build a cli archival tool for some semi-obscure social media service? Go sounds like a good fit.

>>24598 no (you) can build it yourself

>>24602 Programming with someone else sounds like a lot of fun and the project would be better off for it

>>24603 Nobody seems to be interested, that's oddly specific, it's like you're asking for something to be done for you, in the vaguest terms.

>>24607 Like many things, I find programming to be more enjoyable with a buddy. Even if you just chat on the side, helps me stay focused, so I get what the he or she is playing at. I've been more into 3D modeling lately, though, so I'm probably out.

>>24517 How about a lainchan clan on codewars ?

>>24619 Sure. Should we just use "Lainchan"? I mean, it's just a string right?

>>24623 Lets use lowercase "lainchan"

>>24624 Gotcha, entered it.

>>24607 this, i'm >>24602 btw. nobody cares about your soykafty ideas, especially so if you don't have anything to show for them. >>24602 clearly has no skills programming abilities of his own.

>>24632 ah soykaf messed up the reference. whatever, you get what i was saying

>>24628 I see what challenges you have completed, and just for fun, I solved it too. I am doing C , Python with plans to expand into Go and nasm.

>>24619 do they have a javascript free version?

>>24637 Cool! I'm sticking with C# for now. I do enjoy the .NET framework and it's a great language all around. Sadly, I felt like garbage yesterday and I feel even worse today. Dunno what's up, but I hope I can think properly to get some belts this weekend. If you don't mind me asking, why are you getting into NASM? For fun or for profit?

>>24656 For malware reverse engineering. What do you do with .NET ?

>>24657 Well, I _want_ to write a software to help me generate, place and schedule background characters for my Shadowrun group. You know, to get some believable megaplex feeling with SOME persistence. I'm thinking creating individual places on the fly with a simple command. Let's say I generate a pub where the group's meeting some dude. I'd add the pub and some important positions (like the barkeeper) and tell the software to generate those positions and some visitors on the fly complete with descriptions, basic daily schedule and name to get some atmosphere going. If you're into reverse engineering malware, a Youtuber named stacksmashing documented reversing WannaCry with Ghidra in three amazing videos. If you don't know him yet, definitely check it out.

>>24598 I'm not that good at programming but this sounds lie something I definitely want to make. Yesterday I was scrolling Reddit for some wallpapers when I was thinking about how easy it would be to just download all the images in a subreddit with a simple tool, eventually adding some filters that allows you to download pictures based on certain criteria. >>24619 Will check codewars later. >>24641 No. Exactly why I hate competitive programming sites. I only know of "Project Euler" and "Advent Of Code" that don't require JS. >>24659 That guy is amazing, his name is "Stacksmashing Ninja", do you know more YouTubers that make helpful programming tutorials instead of making stupid videos like "TOP 5 PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES OF 20XX"? Here's my list: - Jacob Sorber (C) - The Cherno (C++) - LiveOverflow (hacking) - Real Python (Python) - Philipp Hagenlocher (Haskell) - Tsoding (Haskell) - Haskell At Work (Haskell) - Luke Smith (LaTeX and Bash scripting) Sorry for the people that tried to contact me, my main setup broke and I'm only in possession of a soykafty laptop for the moment that can't even play videos in 720p without crashing. Just PM me on Matrix and I will let reply once I got my stuff together.

>>24664 ... I sure did swallow the ninja part in my post. As I said, my brain's busted. Thanks for the list, I gotta admit I don't really have muc else. I've only recently started looking to YT for coding stuff. I'm gonna recommend Sebastian Lague though. His "coding adventures" series handles different topics from boids, ecosystem simulation to procedural generation and rendering. They're pure gold, manage to capture and keep attention and offer various bits of knowledge about how to solve problems. Reminds me of Ian Hubert's Lazy Blender Tutorials but with coding. I'd also like to correct you on the "competitive" part. While the name "Codewars" sounds competitive, it's inspired by martial arts training, so the peudo-competitive elements are very much tailored to learning from each other rather than trying to find out who's the best. I recommend giving it a try despite the JS requirement.

>>24665 >While the name "Codewars" sounds competitive, it's inspired by martial arts training, so the peudo-competitive elements are very much tailored to learning from each other rather than trying to find out who's the best. Its been helpful to me to have access to tons of test cases to find bugs, and access to hundreds of alternative solutions to learn from.

>>24665 Seconded. Especially since the standard libraries are available. Nothing quite like working one's ass of on a problem just to see that something that's been part of the standard library for ages can turn it into a one liner. Learned about LINQ that way.

>>24688 Oops. Meant to reference >>24681

If you are interested in working on security and programming related projects together with other lainons you should take a look at >>>/sec/14525

>>24664 floss reddit scrapers already exist

>>24692 Correct, which is why I think we could work on something less mainstream. Every site should be able to be archived! I'm >>24598 by the way

Well, as usually for a suggestion here, no one showed up to "lainchan" clan on codewars. I have made it about 50 challenges into C , and am now 5 kyu. Lainchan also has a programming IRC channel.

>>24783 >Well, as usually for a suggestion here, no one showed up to "lainchan" clan on codewars. I have made it about 50 challenges into C , and am now 5 kyu. Sorry but I refuse to use anything with javascript. Also not really a fan of "programming challenges". Making a project together could be fun. >Lainchan also has a programming IRC channel. I took a look at the IRC, and it didn't look particularly appealing. But maybe that's just me.

>>24785 The lain #programming IRC has these two guys in there that know an extrme amount about programming. Too much to relate to actually... They can be somewhat irritating but can't help admire knowledge. Chances are they are half the reason interesting topics even get posted on /lambda/.

>>24783 You've probably mistyped it then, because we have at least two people for which it works. Myself included. Or it's a bug, which you may want to report. Either way, cool to see you wanted to join us. Haven't been active at all lately due to health issues, but I'll be back around soon.

>>24788 Well programming buddy, im the other one. Im at ~500 points now.

This may be the opportunity. Lainons here that are looking to collaborate on a programming project either to test, refine or learn their skills I have been thinking. Would anyone be interested in writing an operating system + kernel in lisp? I've been reading much material on operating systems, and things like the TUNES project failed because there wasn't enough interest. I see much benefit in writing a new operating system that does not have the shortcomings of existing ones. I can't do it alone due to the sheer amount of code to get it to the stage of modern operating systems in time. It could be a saving grace for programmers and users alike. If any lains are interested reply in the thread and if enough are interested I'll make stuff happen.

>>25012 It would be better to add features to OpenBSD

>>25012 Would love to do an OS in Lisp. However, in my experience it is quite difficult. I can certainly contribute to the project if you set it up.

I do not wish to hijack this thread so I will be concise and brief. >>25013 No. OpenBSD is a meme, and it's Unix that's the problem. Reccomeneded reading is tunes.org and ugh.pdf (unix-haters handbook). My premise is that the operating system core is an extended lisp environment like that of old lisp-machines but for modern architecture (possibly RISC-V if things go that way.) >>25015 The idea is that anyone can use it as a learning experience whilst still contributing to something meaningful, if there's something wrong with their code it can be peer-reviewed and they can improved. There's also the matter of not repeating the TUNES project's shortcomings, an active and growing community of interest would be necessary.

>>25018 >The idea is that anyone can use it as a learning experience whilst still contributing to something meaningful, if there's something wrong with their code it can be peer-reviewed and they can improved. There's also the matter of not repeating the TUNES project's shortcomings, an active and growing community of interest would be necessary. Let's get a git repo up and going then!

>>25019 As aforementioned I do not wish to fail the same fate as previous OSs, I have an overview of what's necessary in my mind and wish to perform a rigorous planning phase to ween out any problems and develop something worthwhile. In regards to a git repo. I'll set up a gitea instance over the next few days and a webpage where I'll begin to start putting my thoughts up. See you soon lainon!

>>25028 See you soon, looking forward to it. Will you post updates in this thread?

>>24517 Currently learning C, and playing around with some Lisp, and Python. You can contact me on matrix: @keizerrijk:privacytools.io

>>25018 Sounds like an idea I had: Lisp Machine Linux. Processes, Busses, and Everything else is abstracted into a set of embedded and recursive cons that can be accessed and manipulated directly through the terminal much like addresses would on a commodore. The idea being that the entire OS is a single Lisp environment with manipulable symbols - everything is a cons kind of like UNIX. One of the problems with lisps is that even when compiled they rely on an intermediate format that doesn't communicate directly with the machine but instead through an interpreter. A compiled lisp is the first and most necessary step in this (Carp and Microlisp are good candidates). The other step is interfacing wtih the linux kernel, since only someone really dedicated or stupid would write an entire kernel in lisp.

>>25191 >>25029 Hello again, sorry for the delayed response. Come meet on #programming in irc.lainchan.org. User: MZ

Why don't we start a Matrix room? Just for casual conversation, similar to the lainchan IRC.

>>25247 why not just use the lainchan irc then?

OP here. 1. Deleted Matrix a while ago because it got me extremely frustrated, 2. I just reinstalled Mumble but the only person that on the server is usually Loli. 3. I don't really do XMPP anymore unless it's over Tor with OTR. If you still want to chat with me, I'm online 24/7 on the IRC server under the same nickname. Sorry for the people that messaged me on Matrix, sometimes your PMs would just disappear out of my chat history. >>25247 >Every client is soykaf except Element, which is soykaf as well because of Electron >Synapse slow as fuarrrk because of Python and Dendrite is still in development >Joining a room takes a few seconds >Messages get stuck for several seconds

>>25251 I kind of get the impression that irc rooms are more chatty, whereas on most other platforms like Matrix it's easier to have a lengthy discussion. It's kind of in the middle between imageboards and irc/discord if you see what I mean. Anyway I'm just going to drop my matrix id - @nylon:matrix.org Come and chat with me if you like, or maybe we can work on something together. I am currently working on a soykafty twitter/reddit combo site where the gimmick is the 1:1 relationship between posts you write and posts you see - so once you submit a post, you get to look at one other post. I know python, c#, dart/flutter and I'm learning rust right now. Send me your projects, or maybe we can just be friends :)

>>25255 >I kind of get the impression that irc rooms are more chatty, whereas on most other platforms like Matrix it's easier to have a lengthy discussion. I agree this is the case in bigger rooms, but in rooms with 2-4 people, it's less so.

>>25255 Nobody has messaged me -_- Lainons, let's work on something together!!

>>25385 >nujak >jewbook Q frog Get out.

>>25252 I take this back. Matrix works pretty good with a client like Gomuks and a private homeserver. >>25255 Why are you using matrix.org? You're overloading the main server, it's heavily moderated and the admins are known for being assholes that just delete what they want just like Discord does. My matrix ID is avdb_:midov.pl and sometimes I can't join rooms because my homeserver is on a blacklist. You should read https://glowers.club/wiki/doku.php?id=wiki:newfriends

>>25391 You have to say something controversial to be reported and then derezzed. I don't say anything controversial because politics and racism are boring.

>>25009 Shit has been going down lately and I can't muster the motivation to do Kata right now. Work is eating my soul. I congratulate you though!

>>25391 >>25392 midov.pl is a known pedo homeserver

>>25407 It's not loser. They just don't have rules unlike matrix,org where you can get derezzed for whatever reason. Get the fuarrrk out.

>>>>25392 So you don't believe in free speech? It's not just about "politics" by the way. >OE's /tech/ and /a/nime rooms were shutdown Does this have anything to do with "politics"?

>>25385 Just wait for like 10 days, I'm pretty busy writing some soykafty webApi bootcamp and playing vidya on the few hours remaining in the day.

For the people that don't know yet I'm literally 24/7 on the lainchan IRC server in the #lainchan and #programming channels. I asked if someone wanted to write a webscraper with me but got no replies. I'm also going to create a room on Matrix later for the glow-in-the-darks that want E2EE. I also PMed the following people: @keizerrijk:privacytools.io @nylon:matrix.org @juxtapositional:mipov.pl

My IRC nick is mikoto-chan.

>>25427 >I asked if someone wanted to write a webscraper with me but got no replies. >Not just reverse engineering the API ngmi

>>25449 APIs have keys and rate limits. Scraping has less restrictions but is harder.

Status of this thread: First of all somebody on IRC messaged me to help me write a Reddit scraper. We did some brainstorming but I didn't see him again on IRC after 2 chats. After that I made a room on Matrix (#programming:midov.pl) where I got in touch with 2 other people from this site. We (unironically) tried to write a matrix arithmetic library in C to solve my math homework but we heavily underestimated the problem and ended up with a memory management issue. If anybody still wants to write a Reddit scraper in Go with me (which should me astronomically easier) please let me know.

Why do you guys use matrix?

Anyone interested in gamedev? I've been to a few gamejams with js and currently work on a little ECS with C and raylib

>>25585 >write a matrix arithmetic library in C to solve my math homework couldn't you just use numpy? >in C to solve my math homework but we heavily underestimated the problem and ended up with a memory management issue would you have had this problem if you had garbage collection (python, go, java, etc.) or smart pointers (c++, rust)? >write a Reddit scraper why would you do that? >scraper in Go with me (which should me astronomically easier) go does not have anything close to scrapy, beautifulsoup, requests, lxml, selenium et al.

>>24517 Sure I'll be your buddy. @zachbird:matrix.org zachbirds@freendoe >>25391 Thank you. I'm a new user, so I appreciate this. >>25820 > go does not have anything close to scrapy, beautifulsoup, requests, lxml, selenium et al. Really? I figured it would at this point, cause there's a library for everything, like how zig has a library to read protocol buffers. I know lxml/selenium are just bindings, so they can be ported over easy. Rest I'm not so sure on. Also > lxml Call me retarded, but when do you actually need to parse the XML of a site when scrapping? Is it when you're taking in XML requests? Otherwise, wouldn't it be easier to just use beautifulsoup? > why would you do that? I might do it, for market research. I wanna start a startup, and I seen some people's response on finding a worthwhile product is go through social media, see people's pain points (oh, I wish you can do X easier) and make a product based on that. So I could make a scrapper that goes through subreddits, maybe use some gay ass ML to find posts complaining about something, make a product that solves that and boom: easy money. That's just an idea, and I have no business sense as well, so it's probably bad. Would be fun though, to learn some machine learning.

>>25826 >lxml it's named that way for historical reasons like ajax even though nobody uses either for xml anymore >I could make a scrapper that goes through subreddits, maybe use some gay ass ML to find posts complaining about something, make a product that solves that and boom: easy money. doesn't sound like "easy money" if it takes a soykafload of time and effort make this thing that has a high chance of commercial failure, compared to simply gambling $20 into dogecoin, chia or some other currently-hyped soykafcoin. reminder that people who "invested" (gambled) $1000 into dogecoin last year now have $200k

>>25868 I didn't say anything about crypto. I said do market research

>>25799 I want to assemble a team of people to work with on the torque3d engine. I dont like gamejams, too much waste produce, however it would be awesome if we could make some concept games and/or asset packs for people to use. I wanted to make a thread but the spam filter always catches me. If theres some interest id be happy to disclose more, but im bad at organizing and such so idk if we should make seperate thread or discuss this some place else.

>>25826 >lxml While it still has the xml parsing bits, most people are probably more interested in the lxml.html It supports xpath and css queries.

>>25795 Many features IRC is missing (media, code syntax, etc.) and E2EE. >>25820 The library is done but I'll probably rewrite it in Go since they have very good libraries for math. I'm not scraping anymore since teddit.net offers an API so don't need to worry about that. >>25910 You could join us and ask I guess, there are pretty experienced people among us. We set everything on freeze temporarily because many people are dealing with finals at the moment, but I will have all the time of the world beginning mid-June.

I'm looking for a programming buddy myself, so that I can be motivated with someone else to actually do something productive in my life, and to possibly make a friend(s).. Whoever comes to chat doesn't matter, whether they be experienced or not (I'm a newbie). I just want to chat with someone so we could possibly help one another and maybe do fun things like game or something. I don't really have a mumble, or a matrix, or anything like that but I'm willing to make one.

>>25992 I'd very much like to have a programming buddy considering none of my current buddies care very much about computer programming. I invite you to add my Matrix account "@u007eu007c:halogen.city".

>>24783 I've just joined (with some crappy solutions in Haskell and random soykaf from ~3 years ago), but all I see are 6 people with 6-8 kyu & there's only one person with C challenges solved and they only solved one. I input "lainchan" without the quotes, is it really the right one?

>>25795 IRC doesn't support any proper encryption, and the last time I tried using XMPP one of the people I was testing with was having an issue with the encryption where it flat out didn't encrypt his messages. Matrix, while its encryption fails sometimes, doesn't leak when it does so.

>>25998 Okay anon, I'll add you. I just want you to remind you that I am still a begineer though. By that, I mean I only took like a programming course in high school and that was a while ago.

I'd love to pair with a programming buddy, but I've no idea how to work with one since my schedule is so unpredictable :(

>>25820 go has a command line scraper called pup, it's really good. You can scrape reddit requesting the json from the official API. You also can use something like GNU Octave for your matrix problem.

>>26014 feel free to leave your id on matrix and I'll add you to our room

You can enter the ID in your client since rooms have aliases: #programming:midov.pl I know that the homeserver doesn't have the best reputation but I happen to know the admin and he is really loose on rules. matrix.org is really slow and I can't guarantee 24/7 uptime on other homeservers. I'm hoping for a stable version of dendrite to come out as soon as possible so that I can self-host again. Synapse is really intensive on resources and it's not worth the VPS costs imo.

We haven't done anything yet besides making a matrix library (not the communication protocol but the math concept) but it's not really practical as there's no UI to type in the numbers. I currently have finals for 2 more weeks but after that I have all the time in the world to program. I've already taken an interest in Go's interfaces, they allow you to use functions on different types without weak typing or other error-prone solutions i.e. I can write a function that will delete a post but it works on main threads as well on replies without boilerplate code.

I add some of you guys on matrix. I'm not used to check the network because I have nobody there to talk with, so I might take some time to respond. I'm mostly a web developer, have some experience with JS and Laravel and recently started a job on csharp stack, but I'm up to anything (that isn't illegal or too edgy). I tried sometimes writing a interpreter but I always end up getting tired on the middle of it and abandoning the project. Nowadays it feels like such a slog to build anything I hope you guys help me found joy on building again.

Just as I got home from my last schoolday of the year I noticed that midov,pl was down, the server on which the programming room was hosted. Apparently the dude that was hosting it got hit with extreme weather conditions causing him to shutdown everything temporarily. I'm hoping everything will be soon up again but in the meanwhile I'm creating a new room at #programming:transhumanist.club. I'm also available at IRC and will be working om a CAPTCHA implementation in Go this week if anybody is interested in joining me.

>>26341 >CAPTCHA implementation Why?

>>26342 To stop glowies on the internet from messing with my hidden service. You wouldn't want to use some crap like ReCAPTCHA do you?

>>26344 I'd not even want CAPTCHA.

>>26348 You clearly don't understand. Read the spam thread. https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/47397.html#47397 >Inb4 we have an IRC server No, it serves other purposes.

>>26341 Update: midov.pl is back up. Registrations are closed but I'll be active in the room on a daily basis from now on. Happy hacking.

>>26350 Oh I didn't know both were related.

>>24787 One is probably loli(who praises haskell as the second coming of christ, sadly it made me dislike it even more), who is the other one?

>>24517 > Matrix: avdb:midov.pl According to my client, there is no such user. But there is avdb_ (with underscore). >>25585 >>26216 >programming:midov When I tried to join it, I got the message "You are not invited to this room".

Does matrix still have that "X read your message"? I hated that soykaf. Even if you hide that option, it doesn't remove anything since people would still know you "read their message".

>>26361 In my desktop client I see a little circle with user's avatar in it next to a message, I think it indicates that a user read messages up to that message.

>>26362 Yes. I hate that soykaf.

>>24787 >>26353 I think lain means both loli and armink.

>>26360 Accidentally deactivated my old account some time ago and Matrix doesn't allow you to reuse nicknames. >>26361 While Matrix supports read receipts you can just use a client that doesn't. >>26366 I haven't seen loli around lately but armink still visits IRC on a daily basis.

>>26380 >While Matrix supports read receipts you can just use a client that doesn't. Does it stop people from knowing that I have read their message or only stop showing it to myself?

>>26382 In order for read receipts to work, you need the client to actively notify the sender that their message has been read. I don't know which matrix clients allow you to disable this behavior, but it is in principle possible. For reference, it's common for XMPP clients to give you the option to enable/disable stuff like read receipts, typing notifications, presence updates, etc.

What is a good matrix client? Wanna join you guys.

>>26443 I use riot on android, available over f-droid, which is kind of ok. On the computer is use nheko, which is available by default from the fedora repo, so other distros prolly have it too. Quarterion i think was another called, cant be sure about the spelling, but i never got around trying it. Btw id be down to have a group of sorts, there is already and unoficial lainchan channel there, might well use that. Also there were a few lains who said they do gamedev, it be interested to see if we cant find something cool to discuss or whatever. Btw for those who already use tox there is also a group chat: 2167ED20D40E1A5557A7AEFE16D0E110920382A9F3AA6C6597EA71DF4E499C5942CD0768F260 I lurk there, anything goes, they know me, so if you didnt already know might well give it a peak.

My problem with groups like these is that slowly, but surely, the off-topic convo starts to increase to the point people hardly remember what was the point of the group. I have been part of programming, math and book reading groups(this one being off-line) and of the 3, only the book reading one was not killed by off-topic(mostly because it was a monthly meeting). As soon as people started to treat each other as friends, talking about their daily lives, what they are doing and so on(nothing related to the reason the group was created), the whole point of the group was dead and it was just another normal group(which at that point I'd just leave it). It made me realized that a group like these only works when: 1) It hardly talk about off-topic things(no, I don't care if you are playing X or watching Y). 2) It have daily/weekly/monthly/whatever meeting(that is, not the whole day), since it avoids people to talk about anything when they are bored. Sadly, because it is usually an online group, the 2nd point is never going to be implemented because no one would want to be part of a group that doesn't talk whenever they want to talk. Off-topic is impossible to avoid no matter the group(even the book reading group I was had it), but since you can say anything whenever you want(because online group), it motivates the off-topic convo to increase, making 1st point also impossible.

This is my matrix account: viata:midov.pl I know C, Python and learning C++. I just want to program something with some people.

>>26445 I can imagine the opposite extreme being bad too. Like, if you want something strictly on-topic and super-useful, just read a book or watch a lecture or something, why do you need to talk to anyone at all, right? I think it's not about a on-topic/off-topic dichotomy, but about something else, like, having and cultivating good habits, being proactive, something like that. At the end of the day, nobody is going to do the work for you, it's you who does all the work, you only need other people to bounce ideas off of, and to be exposed to new and fresh ideas, among other things.

>>26458 Extremely on-topic is impossible, no matter what kind of group so I don't expect that. I do expect that off-topic discussion happens way less than on-topic discussion. >I think it's not about a on-topic/off-topic dichotomy, but about something else, like, having and cultivating good habits, being proactive, something like that. The problem with this is that a non-proactive member that talks mostly about off-topic stuff tend to make people keep having convo about off-topic stuff. Unless you go ban everyone that do that(which would turn your group just make a new group without you and leave), you can make some rules that avoid the increase of off-topic discussion.

>>26445 I have seen this happen in other rooms but it won't happen on this one since nobody is really interested in talking unless they want to demonstrate some new piece of code or discuss what they've been working on lately. We don't really program together yet (too much diversity too little people) but today I did a peer review with another guy and it's always nice when people can give you feedback on your project idea before you start wasting months of time on it before realizing it wasn't worth the effort to begin with. >Inb4 they delete attached picture Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!

>>26461 Not that anon but what group is that and how I join it?

>>26462 #programming:midov.pl It's on Matrix, you can use whatever client you like but Element is the only fully-featured one. You can choose your own homeserver to create an account on (don't use matrix.org please).

>>26476 Seems to be an invite only room. This is my account: >>26446

>>26477 Weird. Let's change that.

I joined the clan on codewars. Not gonna lie; I was hoping to see some 1kyu or 2kyus, but ig that's ok if you prefer actual projects. Tried mumble too, and it's fuarrrking dead. Is matrix any better?

>>26497 Yeah, we talk pretty much daily. Mumble isn't very anonymous so I can understand why people avoid it.

Since 1984hosting derezzed me for "violating" their guidelines I'll use this thread temporarily to share our common goals: - have a website with a schedule and self-hosted git instance to upload all the work we did - have a weekly gathering (still deciding on this one but I guess the weekend is preferable) to discuss progress, difficulties, etc. - propose new subjects at the beginning of every month and vote which one we will dedicate the entire month to - have 3 types of schedules (easy/normal/hard) which take respectively 30/60/90 minutes per day to finish - spend the last week doing a project to build a program to solve a real problem (maybe we should do this in groups of 4 so that we have multiple solutions) - do peer reviews the last day of the month If you want to elaborate on this further please leave a comment here since it's hard to filter all messages on Matrix.

>>26787 Can ending the pollution of medium, Reddit, hacker news, and everything in pop-dev be a goal?

>>26792 Sure, but that is a pipe-dream and the best method is to avoid all of that. Funny, though, because I have learned that one can enjoy a hobby yet never have to face the cancer in that very hobby. I have been programming for years, as a hobby, and since I don't care at all about things like that(reddit, hacker news, whatever), to the point I can avoid all of it, I can enjoy this very hobby. I pray for people that work as a programmer, they can't avoid cancer.

>>26353 I believe the two users referred to by that are clearly loli and myself, with me being the creator of the channel who uses the name lisp there.